In this episode of Karamo’s talk‑show, longtime friends Martina and Byrd (referred to as Bird) confront a financial conflict that erupted after a shared trip to Tampa. Martina fronted $1,200 for the vacation, expecting Byrd to reimburse his share, while Byrd felt the gesture was a sign of mutual support and believed he didn’t owe the full amount. The host, Karamo, brings in audience members, Martina’s daughter, and Byrd’s sister Mimi to unpack the misunderstanding. Through a series of back‑and‑forth negotiations—highlighting differing views on friendship, responsibility, and past travel expenses—the parties negotiate a settlement. They ultimately agree that Byrd will send a $90 payment (rounded from $87) via a money‑transfer app, with the condition that the debt is considered settled and future trips will have clear payment expectations. The episode ends with Karamo’s moral: don’t let money ruin relationships, and a call to subscribe.
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Listen everyone, my next guest Bird is here to repair his friendship with a woman named Martina. Martina and Bird have been each other's ride or dies and besties since they met at the casino 15 years ago. But recently Martina and Bird have not been speaking since they got back from their trip to Tampa in February. And their drama all comes down to one thing, money. We're about to meet Byrd, but first let's hear what Martina thinks about all of this.
My friend Byrd needs to realize one thing. I do not play when it comes to my money or my coins. When I invited Byrd to Tampa, I told him I did not wanna mess up my credit. I knew I had to front the money, but I made it very clear Byrd needs to pay me back for his share. I put $1,200 on my card for this trip. At this point, Byrd owes me more for the emotional distress. I think my friend Byrd is going through something. To call and get in contact with a TV show is crazy at this point. If Byrd had just sent me my money, this could have all been behind us.
All right, well listen, let's meet Byrd and hear what he has to say, right? Byrd, come on out. How you doing?
Hey, everybody.
Good to meet you, man.
How you doing? I'm great.
Good to meet you. So sit down and let's talk about this 'cause we just saw and heard a whole lot. So how do you feel about what you just heard?
I feel like I just got played.
You did?
Yeah.
Why?
Because it's like we've been through a lot together. We travel together, we've been around the world together and it's like always had each other back. When I go places, I be like, I got you, you got me. When she said she was taking me to Tampa for the game, I was like, "Let's go, let's do this." I said, "I ain't got it like that." But she was like, "Oh, I got you, don't worry about anything." So who do you feel is to blame in this situation? She is.
Okay, and why? She's to blame.
Because like I said, when we say we got each other, we got each other. That's not, you gonna send me an invoice for $1,200 and say, "Hey, this was for the trip." So how many times would you say that you had her on trips? Millions.
Millions. And when you say got her, you talk about you were paying.
Paying.
You were spending everything.
Give me details. I'm going to AC and I'm taking you to the hotels. I'm taking you to the concerts. We getting the top line of cocktails. We staying at the Four Seasons in Paris and Vegas.
So in any of those times, did you ever ask her for money back?
No, never.
This last trip, tell me about it. What happened? She called you up?
She called me up. It was a Tuesday. She said, "Let's fly out to Tampa on a Friday." And I was like, "Oh, I don't got it like that. My finances not right there like that, but maybe I'll pass." And she said, "Nah, I got you. I'll take care of everything." And I said, "Nah, I need some spending money." And she said, "Nah, I got you. I got drinks, food." I was like, "What?" We get down there, we have a great time. She paid for everything like she said. So I was like—
Did she ever say in that whole entire conversation, "I expect you to reimburse me"?
No, because she upgraded the trip on the way there. So I was like, she really balling out.
Oh, not an upgrade, okay.
Yeah, she's like, she's getting first class flights, you know, she said we got a suite.
So what do you think you've missed out on each other's not being in each other's lives?
Everything. Like what? When you have a friend like that and you've been through everything, is a ride or die, you know how it is.
We have a special guest in the audience right now, which is Martina's daughter. Now I wanna come to you real quick and talk to you, 'cause I wanna know what you think about all this. How you doing, by the way?
Hi, how are you?
I'm good.
I think it's silly. I think they need to get over it, move on, and go back to how they was.
Yeah, okay. So you think all this is just a mess?
Yeah, not over money. You don't lose a friendship over money of all things.
Well, I mean, I've seen many friendships go over money, so it's something that happens a lot of times in people's relationships. Has anybody in here lost a relationship over money? Yes, you have? Okay then.
I think I wanna hear both sides personally.
Okay.
Karamo.
Yeah, I agree.
I really think that maybe there was a miscommunication that happened, but also if she thought like, "Hey, I got you," but in her mind she was like, "You're gonna pay me back." I think maybe they should talk about it, maybe split it in half possibly.
So have you and Martina talked about that moment?
Yes.
And what was her response then?
I wrote to her in a text message like, What part I didn't, you got me, I didn't understand, but I'm gonna go ahead and give you half of the money.
Oh, so you went ahead and still gave her half?
When everybody else told me not to do it and I said, I'll give you half of the money.
Sort of just to mend the relationship. I gave you $500. So then why wouldn't you just pay her the full thing?
Because after I thought about it and I tallied that up, like when I balled out on you and paid for everything. Oh God, it was one of those.
All right, we got it. Listen, we heard Bird's perspective, but now it's time to meet Martina. Everyone, welcome Martina to the show. Hey Martina, how you doing? Hello, how are you? I'm good.
Good.
Martina, you fly.
Thank you.
Yes. So Martina, do you feel like you're throwing away a friendship over money?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, I do.
And it's important for you to do that?
It's not important for me to throw it away, but it's the principle. And I got you is not in my vocabulary, not for $600.
So what do you want from Bird?
I want respect and I want the rest of my money.
I feel like I owe you the rest of the money.
You're not gonna pay me.
And like, if we tallying up.
I just wanna know.
And if you think I got you don't mean anything, then let's tally up the restaurant and the AC trip and let's add. No, that's it.
See, that's.
'Cause you say I got you.
No, but that's in the past and that's.
Oh, but yours in the past too, right?
Yeah, yours in the past too.
No, no, no, I mean this is a long, It's been a long time, Karamo.
Is this all over?
I am gonna help y'all clear up the situation, but everyone, first I wanna welcome Bird's sister Mimi to the show. Mimi, come on out.
I don't think this is fair to Bird. I don't think this is fair at all because he value friendship way more than money, and I know that just being his sister. He definitely values the friendship. "Hey, my brother has been different. This has affected him. If nobody knows, you know, him sharing with me, you know, different things that happened." I think their friendship was way deeper than the money. I don't think the money should, you know, supersede the relationship.
Yeah.
Yes.
So you think that she's being, Martina's being unfair at this moment?
Yes, I do. I do.
And why?
This was the unmarried couple and Martina gets paid.
Yeah, wait, wait, what?
This is the people, these two right here went everywhere together. She was like right there all the time. That's his ride or die.
Has Byrd paid Martina back? I know he's paid some back.
I know he said he paid a portion.
He paid a portion.
Do you think he should be paying her the rest?
Honestly, no.
Okay, so there was a $50 payment, a $75 payment, and a $300 payment. Yeah. Okay.
No, I kept getting the cash requests.
Reminders.
The $75. Yeah, it went from give me $20 anytime you want to, you give me $75 a week, and I would get her a $75 a week request.
But you don't know what I was going through. I needed that money. I wasn't working.
And then you say you're going through things, but you flying out to St. Martin. You flyin' to Cancun every other week.
I don't have to pay for that.
You flyin' to Cancun every other week.
Mimi, you said that you think that Martina's—
You know, she's fallin' out every other week, but she need the money, but she's goin' through things. But look at her Instagram, she was just in Cancun last week.
Oh, I was in her doors.
She was in her doors last week.
I was in her doors. Okay friends, now that I've heard it all, I have to ask, do you think he owes her the money?
No.
No?
No.
I don't care what they think.
Okay, so I wanna know. I wanna know, do you currently have any money? Do you have a money transfer app on your phone?
Yes.
If I got your phone right now, would you make the decision to pay her her money right now to salvage this friendship?
No.
No, you will not? I wanna grab the phone. Can we get the phone real quick?
You wouldn't pay, bitch.
Yes, would you pay?
Well, I would. You said it.
So here's the phone. Here's the phone. You have the app on your phone. Would you pay her the money to salvage this friendship? You said no. Why do you think no?
'Cause I feel like I don't owe the money.
You feel like you don't owe the money?
Wow.
I feel like I don't owe the money. I don't feel like I owe the $150.
All right, the producers told me that you said if you ended up paying her today, that this friendship is done for you forever. Is that true?
No, I don't believe that. No, I don't believe that.
I do love her, but like this money thing and I, if the not speaking to me part for me.
Money has ruined many a friendship, a family member, a ton of stuff. If you want my advice, if it ain't gonna break you right now, pay the money. I'm serious. Because the thing is, is that having this linger over something, which sounds like to me a lifetime of friendship. Listen, y'all gonna go back and forth with that money forever when you can just pay it and then tomorrow y'all can be at the restaurant and be like, girl, you got this check? Oh, you got the check? And just keep it moving. But the fact that this is holding y'all's relationship up, I think for me it's petty. I think it's unnecessary. That's just my personal opinion. You already paid. You already paid. I say just pay the rest. What's the rest, $150?
Maybe $125.
$125. $175.
Would you be willing to pay $175 just to get your girl back?
I'll give you half price. I'll take half.
Oh.
She seen it.
Hold on, hold on.
She didn't see it.
Look, look, now that we've got some, that's actually a good step because jokes aside, she's trying to say to you, I want to meet you halfway. Clearly there's something.
And I have met her halfway by sending her the money. 'Cause like I said, I never thought I owed her the money.
Well, it's not really halfway. If she says she thinks you owe her, either you pay it all or not. So the question really is, is this friendship worth enough to you to pay a half of $175?
$87.
Look at it. Are you ready to pay?
Can I borrow it from you?
Okay, are you ready to pay $87 to get your friendship back?
Round it off to $90.
But if he pays this $90, can you say, I will never bring this up again?
Yes.
And then from here on out, can you communicate exactly when y'all go on a trip, you paying, I'm paying, you owe me back?
We can go out after the show.
Okay, so listen, are you willing to take your phone out right now and pay the $90?
We can go out after the show.
Are you willing to pay the $90? I'll pay.
I have a new credit card.
I'm willing to pay. I'm willing to pay.
Take your phone out. Take your phone out. I wanna see the money go through. You can write in the comments, Karamo made me do it. I'mma check for you. It say, to Martina Taylor, $90 sent for final Tampa trip. Can we please be friends again? Can you hug your friend?
Let me hug your friend. Get outta here. Y'all so special.
I love both of y'all. Thank you so much. Yeah, listen. All right, listen, everyone. Don't let money ruin y'all relationships. Hold on. Where you going? I'll tell you where you're going. Right here to subscribe and right here to watch more.
