The Wedding Is OFF Until YOU Unlock Your Phone! | KARAMO

I'm a little sad for you that you had to call off your wedding to get her phone unlocked. What happened?

Well, one day, you know, I come in from work, right?

Yeah.

And you know, when I come in from work, you know, she instantly, she hit me with one of them, right?

So I'm like, what in the world?

So I said, oh, I gotta get to that phone now, right? So I said, hey baby, give me a kiss, right? So you know, I walk up to her, you know, baby, give me a kiss. Give me that damn phone, girl. When I get the phone in my hand and I'm scrolling through it and I'm looking through it and it's just text, text is, man, I'm like, oh my God. And this text talking about, I need a hug. And he sent back, well, I hope I could be the one to give you the hug. And she text back, you might be the right one. So now I'm really getting ready to spaz all the way out now, you know what I'm saying? So, and then she talking about, and the kicker was, you can come over when I leave and come to work.

Oh.

God, how did you meet?

My ex, actually.

Okay, your ex?

Wife.

Ex-wife, introduce y'all, okay.

Yep, my wife, so you know, and she, you know, sometimes, you know, some people feel like, you know, well if I'm not the one for you, you know what I'm saying, maybe I can give you somebody that gonna be good, 'cause my wife know all my qualities. You know, 20-something years, you know, I gotta have good qualities.

I don't know, cousin, that still sound a little crazy, right?

It's some Jerry Springer mess out here, bro.

Yeah, it is, it is a little Jerry Springer mess.

Your ex can't be the one You came and did that, okay.

But I've been single for so long, you know, and I just don't, I wasn't just gonna, you know, sit down and say, just pick any old body, you know.

Do you still have feelings for her?

For who, my wife?

No.

That's 3 Freudian slips calling her your wife, by the way.

But that's my ex, no. Oh.

Let me tell you something.

That's 3 Freudian slips calling her your wife.

No, no.

We just checking, that's it.

That's my friend, we are friends and that's what we is.

I'll give you a pass 'cause 20 years, sometimes we get used to saying the same thing.

I'm talking about my friend, you know?

Look at her face right here. She said, "Mm, I don't know." Well, I'm not my wife.

What do you mean about your woman?

I'm getting ready to marry somebody else, Karamo.

What has to happen in order to save the engagement?

She got to pass this little thing. She can't do nothing with her phone. Anything on her phone, I ain't going for none of that. Because like I say, I bring everything to the table, you know? But I ain't going for nothing extra, nothing, nothing, nothing. I ain't going for it.

Okay. Well, listen, it's time to meet Laura and hear her side of the story. Well, actually, let me hold on. Before y'all clap, hold on. Before y'all clap. Before y'all clap. I'm gonna be real with y'all. I've been hearing Laura this entire time backstage.

Y'all too?

Laura been backstage, said she got a lot to say. So Laura, come on out. We want to hear your side.

I'm so tired.

You are a spoiled, childless man.

I'm not spoiled at all.

I work. You don't work.

Douglas.

Yeah.

Let's say, hey Karamo.

Hey, how you doing, mama? When they start giving government names, they mean something.

So let me say my side of the story.

Please, I would like to hear it.

We met through my friend, his ex-wife. I took a chance on even a rela— I was done with relationships. I took a chance because I trusted her. She wouldn't set me up with somebody that is gonna make my life harder 'cause I'm a single mom of 3 kids. And that's not how I feel now.

Oh.

So we met.

Now you feel like she set you up?

We met, I lived in Moxville, he lived in Wilson, which is like 3-hour drive. Mm-hmm. So I left Moxville after like 3 months. I left Moxville, took off to Wilson, got me a job within 2 weeks to take off with this man. And he's the first man that's been in my kids' life.

But I was already established, had money and everything.

Okay.

Everything, the foundation was laid.

And I was coming to get established with you.

Okay, now go ahead.

And I did my part.

Okay, now go ahead.

Then we had problems. I don't know where they come from. Accusations out the get-go because of his trauma. So I understand that. But it just, it's too much. It's too much. He thinks it's all about him. You do this, you change. And I have changed. I used to put my hands on, pop his mouth and stuff. It was a problem. And I know it's a problem 'cause I get that. But in the beginning, I changed that. I ain't done that. When I get mad, I used to take shit just to mess with him. I changed that, I don't do that. I change the things that I know I'm doing wrong, 'cause I'm proving to you my love. If I didn't fucking love you, I wouldn't change.

I wouldn't leave my kids to come start a life just to establish, to bring my kids there.

'Cause you know my worth, you know what I'm worth.

But you don't know mine. I don't.

And so you don't give me what I need.

I don't, and I don't even try to.

And I don't know what else to do to show you. What you mean, you ain't showed me what I need?

I changed everything.

How did you show me, Mom?

What have you showed me?

Everything.

What?

I work, I take care of you, the kids.

You're a liar.

You're coming to mine. You don't buy nothing. I buy everything.

You're a damn liar.

What? What? I buy everything.

Tell me a point of view.

I do everything. Tell me.

This is Douglas, y'all.

I do it all.

You step in me and my 3 kids' life, this is what he does. He steps in, does a little manly man for a day, and then he gets mad and he's gone. Bye, family. Y'all don't mean shit to me, till he's ready to step back in, feel a little manly man, and gone. That's what you've been doing. And you fucked up my mental where I can't even keep a job 'cause I'm trying to establish something with you. You, you.

Okay, okay, okay. So I'm gonna ask you this right now.

And this is what's real.

How long has this been affecting you?

How long?

A minute.

The 29th of this month is our year.

Yeah, if it don't change after the show, if something don't 1% better on any level of what I need, no, because I can give him what he needs.

When they went through, when they go through my phone, you ain't gonna find nothing. Absolutely nothing.

He thinks he's gonna find out, but this is what he does, and I don't even want to go through my phone. That ain't my issue.

I'm a man's man, and I'm a woman's woman.

Okay, what does that even mean?

Time out.

I made it, man.

I made it, man. So what's interesting—

but I came and I proved myself.

I was working. You left.

If it wasn't—

that's what I want to do on the Karamo Show right now. Time to put our life together.

I'm here with you, but I see you see you're here. You don't see that I'm here. That's been the problem. That's what it is.

I don't, because you have to step up like me.

You know you You the only one probably in this whole place right now that's full of something.

Why we get kicked out everywhere we go? Why? Why? Y'all think I'm screaming?

I'm the only one in this relationship.

I'm the only one. 3 and 5 o'clock in the morning, you in and out, in and out, in and out.

Come on, stop going there too crazy.

Oh yeah, that happens, don't it? But nothing causes it.

Stop yelling, stop screaming, you gonna put us out.

Here we go with our bodies.

We not done screaming.

We not done screaming.

What I do? What do I do? I go against my family for her.

My producer told me you both brought two phones, right? That you both have two phones that you both want to unlock. So it's time to unlock the phones. All right, Douglas, we unlocked your phone. Here we go.

Oh, this is how I do. I take care of this man. That's his problem. He's Spoiled, y'all. Enough ain't enough.

So here we go, Douglas.

This is what keeps us together, the only thing.

We unlocked phone number 1, but my investigator found that the phone had been tampered with, and you admitted that you dropped it in the toilet. So we were—

I did. But I did though.

Let me tell y'all something about me, Karamo. I did, Karamo. I was at the little gas station at Murphy's. I was at Murphy's, me and her arguing.

She stressed me out so damn bad. I didn't want no man.

I got 3 kids and you got my kids waiting outside for my elevator to get there and they waiting on me and I'm waiting on you.

I wish you could get Murphy's and pull that shit. You don't see that I'm coming out shaking my phone like, damn, this girl still on me.

Phone number 2. Laura, you wanna know if Douglas is communicating with any other women? Zero. Laura, you wanna know if Douglas has inappropriately communicated with a specific ex? And Laura, you wanna know if Douglas is on any dating sites, correct? All right, my investigator searched the texts, DMs, and calls, and Douglas's phone was clean. But this is the thing, this is the thing. The phone is only 3 weeks old, so that's why we didn't find anything.

Okay, you can go back to a month. I get my iPhone, I give you the number.

What's the number?

42-something. Go back.

Ain't nothing in it.

I don't do that. Okay, all right.

But he's constantly, this is what he does.

Constantly resetting, like factory resetting his phone like every week. And I'm like, why?

Because you in it, she in it, she logged in it, she take, take, take, take, take.

That's his paranoia. Just like he thinks I cheat on him.

Because she take everything.

And that's why he would say that. Because the only time I would ever take anything is out of anger and I'd be like, I take his cigarettes, mess with him.

So I quit doing even that just to show you.

iPhone 1 was dropped in the toilet.

Okay, yeah, at Speedway. I didn't hear from him over 24 hours. Then he disappeared for 3 days, said he was staying in my van outside of work trying to—

because I lived outside.

Laura, we didn't tell you that. Here we go, Laura, we unlocked your phone.

Okay. Uh-oh, ain't nothing. Uh-oh, here it is. Ain't nothing.

Okay, I know it ain't nothing in mine.

It better not be nothing in yours or you don't lost the All right, well, Douglas, you wanna know if Laura is still communicating with the guy he caught her texting with. Douglas, you also wanna know if Laura's communicating with any other men. And Douglas, you also wanna know if Laura has deleted any messages or is communicating with other men. My investigator unlocked your Android and searched your calls, texts, and DMs, and?

Nothing.

Your phone was clean, but the phone again is only 3 weeks old.

That ain't the right phone, get the 42.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Don't sit my phone like this. My iPhone that I paid $1,800 for.

But what's interesting is that you started talking to my producers 3 weeks ago as well. So the phone coordinates.

That ain't the right phone.

You busted my phone. Okay, well here we go. Phone number 2. We then tried to unlock your iPhone.

That's the phone that needs to be unlocked. That's the one that he picked up through.

Which has been tampered with.

Picked up through.

But it's also been tampered with so we couldn't get into that phone either.

It's not about me. It's been tampered with because he busted it and broke the motherboard.

That's why they wouldn't fix it. They tried to fix the phone.

Well, you both seek your transparency, but you both showed up with broken phones, so.

Because of his—

Okay, two things that come to mind. First of all, you both keep saying that you want change, but change can't happen if there's not first something in common. And what I can tell from the details that I have related is that you never had common ground.

The second thing I'm gonna tell you—

There was. There was no common ground. I can tell you that. I've been tracking what you said.

But see, hear what I said again.

Change can only happen when there's common ground. You never had common ground in the first place. So what you're trying to change is you're constantly just trying to change for somebody who you never were matched with in the first place.

The second thing I'm gonna say is that you both trusted your ex and she set y'all up. I don't mean she set y'all up in like getting you together.

I mean she set y'all up.

That's what I'm saying.

She set us up.

She set y'all up.

It's clear that in the year you've been together, There is a lack of communication.

There is a lack of—

I'm the only one that brings this stuff up. I'm a prioritizer. I have raised my kids by myself. No help, no family, y'all. By myself with 3 kids. That's hard.

I went, raised my son, got custody of my son.

Listen, listen, regardless.

I did all of this. I take care of mine.

How do we move forward when you're—

That was 25 years ago.

We're here in 2025.

I agree. I agree.

What I would say to you, and I'm not— Thank you.

And I'm being dramatic here by asking to do that. The reason I'm asking to do that is because at the end of the day, what I do hear is two people that want love.

I hear two people that want stability.

I'm gonna be honest with you.

Do I think that you all have flirted with getting attention from other people?

So this is my opinion. I think yes.

I was in a vulnerable spot. Can I just say that?

I said flirted.

I didn't say you do anything. I did not.

You said the man texts you. He said he read it.

Because you're not getting what you need in this relationship.

Of this relationship.

And I understand.

And I'm stuck. I'm stuck.

You're not stuck. You're not stuck.

I am.

So let me tell you. I feel stuck. I know you feel stuck. Because what I've seen in you is a woman who clearly is strong enough.

I am a strong-ass woman and I got my shit in order in my head. It's his puts us where we just caught up.

Ain't even hit the bus.

No, no, no, no, no.

Here we go, here we go. Hold on, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out. Hold on.

It's not Douglas.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on.

What is keeping you stuck is not Douglas, it's your choice to be in this.

Right.

Nope, so end right there.

I never say it's all him.

It's your choice. And it is your choice to be in something that's unhealthy for both of us.

It's both of our fault.

Everything is for both of our, whatever we want. It's his fault. He's not happy, it's my fault.

I'm not happy.

I never denied none of that. I'm an honest person.

What happens right now, and I've shared this on this show before, and I'll tell you again. There's a point when I was younger that me and my siblings had to live in a hotel with my mother. This is not something I'm ashamed of.

I'm definitely not ashamed of it.

And I didn't say you were. What I'm trying to show you—

It makes a strong person to do that.

What it did for me is watching my mother stay quiet and do the work showed me to stay quiet and do the work.

And that's what I was doing.

You're not doing it.

But not now, I'm not. And that's why I didn't take everyone in the main meeting.

So even right now, you're not staying quiet?

Yeah, because I'm toxic. I'm toxic.

When I'm alone, I can maintain.

You're not toxic.

You gotta stop saying these negative things about yourself.

Yeah, it comes from my trauma.

I get that, but you gotta start working on that because the way you're doing that, they're gonna pick it up. Your kids are gonna pick it up. You understand? There is an ability for you to get out of this, but you have to make better decisions. I'm glad that you didn't do the proposal. If you want to show her that you care about her, What you can do is say, "We can be friends and I'll help you out when I can." Allow him to be a support, but not in a relationship. You gave the ring back. Smart decision. Smart decision. But now, if you wanna be a support and you wanna care about those kids, give the support that you can.

Clearly need something, somebody to tell us something different.

I do believe that you all can make the choice to be better.

You wouldn't have us here if you didn't care.

I do care, I do care, I do care.

I thank you for just giving me—

But I believe that both of you can find the happiness you deserve, but I wish you the best of luck. I'm glad you know that this doesn't have to— Take a seat for a minute, take a seat.

All right, friends at home, stay with us. We'll be right back with more.

Yeah.