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My mom, she be putting me out. Around the time that I was 17, when she first put me out, I had to go sleep with a man for somewhere to go. Okay, that man, he slept with me that time and he didn't give me anywhere to go. He put me right back outside after we slept together. That made me real uncomfortable, 'cause I slept with you to have somewhere to go and now I still don't have anywhere to go. So I broke his windows. My father is with a woman She tried to stab me with a pair of scissors all over some weed. She was arrested that day, but before she got out, we were long gone. We were in Louisiana. We were gone for 6 months. I gave my dad a choice. You either pick her or me. And he chose that crazy bitch. That really broke my heart 'cause it messed up our relationship that we had before she came around. It made me feel some kind of way. Me and my dad's relationship has not been the same since. We barely talk. I want my dad to know I wasn't trying to mess up his relationship. I just really wanted him to open his eyes and realize that she's not good for him.

All right, Janai joining us in the audience, but let's start with Rhonda to hear her side of the story. So Rhonda, thank you for being here so much.

Thank you.

I gotta ask you very fast because that's my first time hearing that.

Yeah.

Did you go after my husband's daughter? Your husband's children? Absolutely not.

The scissors were already in my hand at the time. I was telling him to get the hell out my house.

Okay.

No, no, no, no. Stand up. You went to get the scissors and if your daughter wasn't right there, you probably would've stabbed him so you could stop lying. I promise you, if I wanted to cut you, you would've been cut. My police record proves it. So don't lie on me like that.

Okay, so.

And I actually loved you.

You loved?

Yeah.

You don't love her anymore?

I got love for her, but as a child, the way she performed, absolutely not. I just wanna know what I did to you. What did I do to you? When your mother didn't come through for you, I was there. Remember your 16th birthday party? 'Cause you was sitting around my house all sad and I went right out and bought you a birthday cake. Yeah, I remember. Uh-huh. What about the Florida trip? Coming, inviting you into my family. Nurturing you, trying to be a mother to you. That's all I wanted to do. I know, but you was forced to. Was you supposed to smoke weed? Absolutely not. No, but I was already like that. You can't change somebody. That's neither here nor there. You came into my house. No teenager, no child is going to get high in my house and don't go to school. I was going to school. Karamo, we actually had to wake her up to go to school to catch the bus. I was going to school every day. You was not. What are you talking about? No, you wasn't. I was in Chicago. I wasn't in Vegas yet. I was online. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about when you were in my house Las Vegas. Right. Exactly. And I was going to school. You did not get up for school. Yes, I was. You did not get up for school. All right. On several occasions we have to wake you up.

How did it get to this point? How did it get to this point? I'm confused.

That's what I'm trying to figure out.

From your point of view, I mean, you're standing here now, like, I need to know, how did it get to this point? You're 19 years old?

Yeah.

Okay, how did it get to this point?

I don't know, I just don't like the way, like, I don't know, she too controlling and I don't like all that. Like, she be forcing stuff too much. I require him to be a man.

Okay.

He don't know how to be a man, basically. He don't know how to, like, he be letting stuff escalate too far. He don't know how to speak up for himself.

This is your father?

Yes.

Your husband, he doesn't speak up, he doesn't do these things?

That's partly true, but he definitely don't stand up to her.

Okay.

See, she was his only woman in his life, so to speak. So everything was about her until First Lady come. So things had to be, they had to be changed.

Yeah.

I don't care about that. I'm sorry, things just had to be changed. I require him to be a man. No, I did not allow him to buy you weed. And no, I'm not gonna allow him to kiss your ass. He don't do that. And bow down to you because you are a child. He don't do that. And that's where the disconnect came in. You know what I'm saying? 'Cause I got 3 girls of my own.

Yeah.

And you know that. I was not, I've never treated you no different from my kids, but you're gonna respect me. I never did not respect you. Oh. The devil is a liar. This what you told me. You said if I wasn't to wear a dress at y'all wedding, that I wasn't gonna go. That's what you told me. And then I turned around and went back and found— You have a problem with me being gay. I don't care, I'm gonna be my way. So I don't care about what you're talking about. She says that I have a problem with her being gay. That's not the case. Damn near half of my family is homosexual. My problem with her is she tried to be something that she's not.

Okay, so you were arrested, she said.

Yeah.

Yes. What happened?

Police came, they called the police on me in my house. I didn't call the police. And my dad said you called the police, so which one? They called the police. Both of their names were on the police complaint. I went to jail for 33 hours.

And because you called the police?

I just wanted them out my damn house.

Okay, and what happened when you wanted them out of your house because you were arguing with her father?

Yeah, he wholeheartedly disrespectful again. If she can't get up and go to school, what does she need to get high for? That's counterproductive. So he goes behind my back, takes money out, and goes and buys her weed. We got a problem. That's not what happened. Because what I say goes. That's not what happened. This is my house. That's not what happened. I'm the lady. That's not what happened. That's not what happened, no. We set an argument in front of the beautiful classroom. We was arguing the night before. You had a problem with me, you bought me weed. This ain't have shit to do with school. I went to school every day.

What happened when you came back?

When I came back home?

Yeah.

After jail?

Yeah.

He was gone. He had took everything. He was gone.

Got it. And how long ago was this?

This was in 2022.

2022. Got it. Got it.

It really is.

Okay.

You like the great manipulator. You do whatever you can to get whatever you want. And it's sad when all you gotta do is just be you. That's what you do. Please stop mixing me with you. Please don't do that. I'm a grown-ass woman. I don't have to be nothing I'm not. You the one still growing. You gotta get to where I'm at.

I'm already grown.

You gotta get to where I'm at. I don't have to be grown. She thinks she grown. I don't think nothing. You think she grown? No, I don't. Y'all met at a bar. Like, you don't even know me, man. Again, what's your problem with me again? You don't know me. Because I'm the one that sent for you and brought you into my house. What's your problem with me again? She can't even tell you why she got a problem with me.

What is the problem?

Just because he's being a husband to his wife. That's the problem.

What is the problem with that?

That's not the problem. The problem is you do little slick stuff. You think somebody, nope, I'm not slow. You're not finna manipulate me on this show. I'm not a goofy. We're not finna do that. That's what you're not finna do. Slick is you. Do all kind of slick stuff. Girl, you slicker than a whale's back. You always doing this. You do this, you do this, you do that.

So you just feel like there's disrespect in her language? That's what you feel?

Yes, and she's controlling. She think her opinion matter. It doesn't to me. My opinion does matter when it comes to my family. Not to me. Well, and that's why you where you at. You need some help. You do too. That's why you on the show. Then y'all call it, 'cause I didn't. They called me. I called them to unlock my phone. I don't know where you came from. Like, y'all don't know how hard it is on me being stuck between both of y'all. I love both of y'all.

I can't make a decision on you being my wife and you being my daughter.

I came here 'cause I want y'all to get along so we get back to this family thing, taking the trips, doing what we need to do as one. I agree. Not arguing and all this.

How you doing, Karamo? How you doing? Nice to meet you, my brother. Nice to meet you. Take a seat for me, sir. Thank you for being here. Did you know your daughter felt like this?

Somewhat I did.

You know, I got married and I think my daughter just felt like she was losing me. And that's not the case though. You want her to come up here? Come on upstage.

Come on. That's his only child. That's why I don't understand why she would even think that he would allow me Why would you even think he would allow me to mistreat you? That's crazy.

I just look at things different, basically.

First of all, there's too many Sagittarius in one house. I agree.

No, I'm a Sagittarius.

She's a Sagittarius. My daughter's a Sagittarius.

Hold on, let me say this real quick because the thing was, it's so interesting to me before you get into that. At the end of the day, you called this show to unlock a phone because there was issues with you two and cheating or feeling of cheating.

Yes.

But then this just exploded into something completely different.

But this contributes. This contributes? It contributes to the overall issue because while he's away, of course he wondering what I'm doing. I'm wondering what he doing. You know, it—

Got it. That's where we're at.

Got it. It's just crazy.

And is that true for you? That's true. Like when you're there dealing with your daughter, then you feel insecure about what she could be doing?

Yeah, I'm not gonna say I don't have trust issues. Because I've been through some things in the past.

And so you're ending up being in the middle of this. I guess. Do you feel like you're in the middle?

No.

Huh?

Mm-mm.

You don't? 'Cause I'm sure you feel like you're in the middle of it.

Yeah.

You feel like you're in the middle of all this drama.

Oh yeah, for sure.

But the reality is, is you are in the middle of all this. I guess. It's you, 'cause you're only 19. Yeah. You're still a baby. Yeah, still a baby. And you know that. Of course she has adult—

And that's what I'm saying, by her being grown, she made herself an issue. She could've just been chilling in the peanut gallery like the rest of the kids.

No, she didn't make herself an issue.

Definitely.

She didn't, she didn't make herself an issue. Yeah.

By assuming that I control him? By thinking that I tell him what to do?

But that's not her issue.

It's there in my heart. That's what she said.

Yeah, I know.

I still wanna get back, what is your problem with me? You control my daddy.

Who do— I'm gonna tell you something really quickly because there's a lot going on here. So there's a couple things that we need to address first of all. The thing of you saying like, I can't control, you are a very strong woman.

Indeed.

And you also have set certain boundaries and standards for your household.

Absolutely.

So within that, those things do allow someone who is not taking a hands-on approach to seem as if they're being controlled. And so that's not your issue. That's your issue. Because the fact of the matter is that When she sets her boundaries, as her husband, you're supposed to support those boundaries. But because you're not supporting those boundaries, of course the child involved seems like, well, my dad is being controlled, which is then causing her to be in the middle of this situation. But then secondly, the fact of the matter is that you compare her to your daughters.

I'm just stating facts.

But those facts shouldn't have been stated. Hold on, hear me out. Hold on, because I'm getting to you next because we gotta clear this up.

I'm sorry, I just believe in kids being kids.

I agree with you.

You know what I'm saying? I don't care.

But this is the thing, when you start comparing a child to something else and not getting support from the father, you become the villain. And that's the issue.

That's the issue. I take it.

But you shouldn't have to take it. You shouldn't have to take it. No, no, no, no, no. You shouldn't have to take it.

I've been taking, I've been getting beat my whole life.

But you shouldn't have to.

I know.

You shouldn't have to.

I'm a fighter.

But you shouldn't have to.

I'm a fighter.

But you shouldn't have to. And that's the reality. That's the reality. You shouldn't have to. And that's where it goes to you because as her husband, you should have been the one to step up and support her in these boundaries, support her so she doesn't have to be the fighter. What I'm telling them is I'm stuck in the middle. You're not. She's stuck in the middle. This all makes sense for me, but I will tell you again, the comparison to her other daughters, the comparison to her mother, Those things she does need an apology for because those things will always, always cause conflict in your relationship. So can you, for me, can you at least for this child apologize for that? Because that's gonna hurt her forever.

I apologize, Janay, for comparing you. Do you accept my apology? I honestly told her, I said, well, you know, let my daughter come to you.

Janay used to talk about you. What do you need? Because you're crying. And one of the things that I hate a child to say over and over again is, "I don't care." Because at your age, you should care. So what do you need right now?

Support.

Support. And how do you need support?

Uh.

No one's ever asked that question, have they? I know. You deserve to think about what type of support you need so that these two individuals get on the same page and be there to support you. Because by the end of this, you're gonna know that and they're gonna be able to get on the same page to support you, all right? There is love there and I need you to hear that from somebody who don't know y'all.

I know she care more than him.

She care, you feel like she cares more than him? More than me?

It's just me.

Hold on, did you, so that's a very clear, this outta your child's mouth. So she knows, She knows that the fight you've had and everything has happened. Thank you for sharing that last piece with me. So what I'm gonna ask you to do is I want you to step backstage and I want you to think about what type of support you need. Okay? Thank you. All right? Go into your green room and enjoy. Now back to y'all, 'cause now I see, I see, look, we've already started to heal some stuff. Look at y'all holding hands. Look at y'all holding hands. Look at y'all holding hands. So I'm gonna ask y'all, do we really need to unlock these phones?

This is really like, my best friend. Do you really think there's cheating?

Do you really think there's cheating? I don't. You don't think there's cheating?

I don't. I'm a very secure woman. Like I said, they can take 'em, they can have 'em.

Do you think there's cheating? You know what? I don't know.

I've been through some things.

I didn't— So then you know what? So I asked y'all the question, do we even need to unlock the phones? You said no.

No.

But your answer lets me know we still need to unlock the phone.

Oh man.

Ramon. We unlocked your phone. So here we go. Rhonda, you wanna know if Ramon has sent DMs to any females on his two Facebook accounts. Ramon says he has not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched your DMs and found that Ramon is telling the truth.

Ah.

Huh? Rhonda, you wanna know if Ramon has made any calls to a specific female on his phone. Ramon says he has not. Who was that? My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his calls and found that he is telling the truth.

Don't worry about it.

Rhonda, you wanna know if Ramon has sent any explicit photos to any females. Ramon says he has not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his photos, both in his phone and deleted. And found that he is telling the truth.

So what you sweating for? I ain't sweating. You and your hands sweating. I got lotion on my hands. Good job. I got lotion on my hands, baby. Good job.

It can be nerve-wracking. I can get it because you might think, but we searched, you haven't done anything.

I'm really tripping.

Y'all can get deleted messages. Oh, we get the deleted as well. Oh, we get deleted photos as well. Technology. Uh-huh. All right, so—

My turn.

Rhonda, we unlocked your phone.

Get to this. All right.

Ramon, you want to know if Rhonda has any explicit photos on her phone. Rhonda says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her photos and found that Rhonda is telling the truth. Karamo, you wanna know if Rhonda has sent DMs to any men on Instagram or Facebook. Rhonda says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Rhonda is telling the truth. Ah. Karamo, you wanna know if Rhonda has sent texts to any men on specific dates from June to August of this year. Rhonda says she has not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her texts and found that Rhonda's telling the truth.

Oh, praise God. Kiss me, thanks.

What happened here is that there has just been an issue with your co-parenting and the lack of support for your wife that has caused these fights and insecurities. And what we've established here now is that there's truth I trust and love here, but it's time for you all to get on the same page. You know now there's no infidelity. You know now that this young girl does love you. There is respect in her for you. She said it. Like, you got to hear it. I'm glad you did.

Me too.

Because you know now, but now it's time for you to get on the same page. I sent your daughter backstage and I said, how do you need support? When she tells you how she needs support, You're gonna turn to each other and look at each other and agree. And if you don't agree with how she needs support, then you say, we're gonna talk about it. And y'all are going to then talk about it and come back and be on the same page. Because now once your house is united, there'll be no more of this division. I wish y'all the best of luck. I actually really do think that y'all have gotten something that's gonna give y'all the first step to be a family together. Do you feel the same?

Yes.

Good. Do you feel the same? I do. I wish y'all the best of luck. Really, I do.

Thank you.

I really do.

I really do.

All right, friends, stay with us. We'll be right back with more.

I love you, baby. I love you too. Always have. I just got you. So you good.

So I heard you were upset when you were asked to unlock your phone.

Yes.

Okay, why?

Exactly, I haven't did anything. There's no reason for him to question me.

Okay, so you just thought you were coming here for some help?

Yes.

You ain't know that he was coming here to unlock that phone?

No.

Got it, okay.

No.

And you two have kids?

Well, I have 4 kids.

And he helps you raise them?

Yes.

Okay, then if y'all married, that's his kids too. So how long y'all been married?

We've been married since March.

March. March of what year?

This year.

Oh, this year?

Yes.

Oh, hold on. So y'all got— Do that math real quick. So, 'cause it said that y'all got together in the first 3 months. Y'all got married in the first 3 months. So you've only been with, known this man 9 months?

Yes.

Okay. And y'all already married?

Yes.

Was that enough time to build a foundation?

No.

That makes sense why y'all on the Karamo Show.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah. Okay.

So do you feel like he is insecure about your relationship with your kids' father?

He is.

Okay, why do you think that?

Anytime they call to check on the kids or anything, he has an attitude. And he thinks I'm still in love with my youngest child's father.

Got it. Is this why he wants to go through your phone?

No, 'cause he's the one that had a girl calling him that he would never answer when I'm around. That's his best friend. Come to find out they used to sleep together. And I caught him talking crap about my kids to her.

Oh yeah, we don't play with the babies. So I don't understand how that upset you.

Not at all.

Yeah. Does he have any other reason to go through your phone?

No.

None at all. What about him and his phone?

Exactly.

Okay, you said my exactly.

I need to see his phone.

My producers say a specific female kept popping up on his phone. Is that the one you were talking about?

Yes.

And so every time she pops up, every time this specific female pops up, he walks out the room. What happens? Give me some tea.

He'll never answer it. He'll let it ring. But then you wait till I'm at work and you wanna call her back. Yeah.

So are you curious to see if they're still talking?

Yes.

Okay then. Well, Latoya, you wanna know if Doug has been texting with other women, if Doug has DMs with any other women, and if Doug has any explicit videos on his phone. Those are the questions.

Yes.

All right, well listen, I wanna hear what Doug's side of this story. So everyone please welcome Doug to the show. Hey Doug, nice to meet you. How you doing? Nice to meet you, man. Thanks for being here.

You're welcome.

How do you feel about what was just said? I mean, she knows it's more than that. So what don't you trust exactly? Well, I don't like when people will be calling her phone or whatever when she's at work, but they won't necessarily call when she's at home.

Who?

Burger Boy and that old man.

My baby daddy.

Yeah, I don't mind, but they don't call. It's not pertaining to them.

The child, so what they calling about?

And then they're calling, they're calling, no. And then they're calling on your specific lunchtimes. And then when it's coming at home, they'll talk on the phone for like 2 seconds with their kids, but they'll have long-ass conversations with you during your lunch.

About the kids.

Man, come here now. Come on, quit playing.

About the kids.

Every day. Have you gone through her phone before? Unfortunately, yes.

Uh-huh. All the time.

And how upset did that make you?

Living.

Why? Because some stuff that she's discussing with them, I don't feel that she should put our family's business or what's going on in our relationship to talk to them about it. Oh, so she shares your personal stuff with her exes? Yes. Is that true?

No.

Okay, uh-huh. So we gonna play ball like that, right? I got the stuff about employment, I got the stuff about things that are going on in our house too. Stuff about food, stuff about every little thing that they don't even need to know about what's going on with. So do you tell your exes about like his job status? Like the things, how y'all dealing with finances? Quit playing.

All right, you stuck, huh? I don't know what you talking about. No.

Okay. You stuck, right?

No.

Okay. So why don't you trust her with her exes? Why are they steady trying to pursue what my happiness is and everything when they fumbled the ball? They dropped the ball, I picked it up, and I'm winning.

So I'm up.

So what will you do if you find things on her phone? I mean, I told her, like, I use the analogy, I look at our relationships like employment. You're full-time, part-time, or seasonal. This is full-time. I'm not finna have no part-time, no seasonal stuff. So unless you gonna bounce that stuff out there and ex-nay all that stuff, whatever, then hey, we gonna have to get some counseling or something. So if there is something on the phone, you don't wanna leave the relationship, but you want some counseling? Yeah, I'm truly in love with my wife. Like I'm 10 toes on my wife. Do you feel like she's truly in love with you? She's made many, many sacrifices for me. And I've made sacrifices as well. I left my beautiful home in Central West End in St. Louis. I have career opportunities there. I have a lot of family there to move down to 2 hours down the road to a city that I can't get a job that suffices for the needs for my family. I don't know anyone and it's just like I'm a prisoner in the home. This is my only happiness and those 4 little kiddos. Have you asked her to get rid of her social media? Yes, I did ask her to get rid of her social media. Then she bounced it back on saying that she just wants to check something real quick and then when she, checked it and everything like that, she's erased it again. But then I think a lot. So I think when she's at work, she'll re-add the app or whatever just to check stuff or whatever. And then when she gets home or whatever, will delete it or something like that. Has she been acting differently though? Yeah, she's been acting real distant and it's bothering me and it's making me like, do you really want to do this? What do you mean?

No.

Man, like in the beginning, whatever, we sleep next to each other, close as a mug, you know? Spooning, everything like that, hug, everything good, right? For the past like month and a half or whatever, maybe even a little longer, you've been sleeping on that side of the bed. I've been sleeping in the middle of the bed. So you feel like the intimacy, you're having some intimacy issues? Yes. You're not connected? I'm trying to give her that thang. I'm trying to, I want a baby.

I'm trying to get busy for real.

Doug, do you want to know if LaToya has been texting with any other men? If LaToya has been on dating apps on her phone and if LaToya has any explicit videos on her phone. Yeah, I did want to know that, yeah. Okay, okay, well.

I wanna know what you doing.

Well, we gonna find out now 'cause it's time to unlock the phone.

Yeah.

Doug, we unlocked your phone first. All right, here we go. Latoya, you wanna know if Doug has been texting with any other women. Doug says he has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his texts and found that Doug is telling the truth. Latoya, you wanna know if Doug has DMs with any other women. Doug says he does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his DMs and found that Doug Doug is telling the truth. Latoya, you wanna know if Doug has any explicit videos on his phone. Doug says he does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his videos and found that Doug is not telling the truth. He has 2 videos of sexual nature with 2 separate females. Oh, it's serious.

Oh, these better be old.

It better be old. They gotta be old. Gotta be old. Okay, well, we about to open that phone up.

Oh, they better be old.

You know it's old. Well, my producer tell me the thing that you had the question with is that you want him to delete the things outta his phone. Is that correct? Yes. Is that correct?

That's correct.

So these were not deleted.

What you holding on to 'em for?

Man, that stuff gotta be old. I got like 4,000 pictures in my phone. I'm not finna skim to 2016? Come on now, the iCloud is deep. You said you wanted him to delete any sexual videos before you were married and these were not deleted. So the question is not about— It's not old as a mug, right? Okay. Quit playing.

Okay, I deleted all my stuff I had. Yeah, and that stuff is gone. I could have kept my stuff.

No, you can't. 'Cause y'all weren't together on September 9th, 2016. 2023, right?

No. No.

Okay, good. So this ain't that old. You talking about you couldn't go 6,000 months. This ain't that old. You could have clicked back. I could easily get to 2023 in my photos and videos.

Exactly.

So that's all we found. He does have these still on his phone. Is that an issue for you?

I just wanna know why you ain't delete it.

I mean, babe, I went back and deleted as much as I could.

You deleted what you wanted to.

No, babe, that ain't the case. I'm not suggesting, no, I didn't selectively just save those photos or those videos or anything like that. Well, LaToya, we unlocked your phone as well. All right, well, Doug, you want to know if LaToya has been texting with any other men. LaToya says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her texts and found that LaToya is not telling the truth. She has 116 inappropriate text exchange between her and 3 different men from January. One of them was her child's father. Can I see the evidence back? Oh yeah. That look like a baby book, babe. So, so— That look like a book. I mean, there's one that my producer want me to point out right here. This is one that my investigator wants me to point out. It says, "Good morning, I've been good. How you been doing? I'll be single as soon as I drop this clown back in Memphis." You don't even know who Playboy is?

That was about my ex.

That went about two. Since January? Yeah.

He was living with me.

Since January, all these, January. They keep going on. Right on. Between, you know, as well? Yeah, that's Burger Boy. Okay, she's been texting with February. In February? Uh-huh. Sorry, in February. Were y'all together in February? Yeah. Okay, it says, "Sorry for putting that on you. Baby, you supposed to. I love it when you." You can go. That's February. I don't remember.

You don't remember?

You got amnesia now, right? Well, you go through it, it keeps going all the way through of saying, talking about their sex. I guess they also talked about having another baby. Having another baby with this Burger Boy? He sends a photo of you to, of a child and say he wants to have another baby together. Let's see. Doug, have you two been trying? 'Cause I know you said y'all don't have any kids. Have y'all been trying to have a baby together? Man, I've been trying to get busy. I love the woman. I love this woman. Yeah, okay. Wholeheartedly. Okay. Well, let's continue on with this unlocking the phone. Doug, you wanna know if LaToya has any dating apps on her phone. LaToya says she does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found that LaToya is not telling the truth. She has Tinder on her phone that she just logged into 3 months ago.

No, I don't. No, I don't. I don't have no Tinder on my damn phone.

Yeah, we don't make up stuff here.

No, I don't.

Yeah, we don't make up things here. LaToya, is there any reason that you don't wanna have a baby? Is there any reason you don't wanna have a baby?

My tubes are tied. What?

Oh. Yo, tubes tied? Did you know that her tubes were tied? So you got a chastity belt on a moo shu? So you did not know that her tubes were tied. So you thought that when you got married, y'all were gonna be able to have a family? Okay.

For real, Toya?

So I'm thinking that something's wrong with me, right? And I'm saving up money or whatever to try to get me together or whatever, do stuff for you, right? And make our marriage whole.

So how long you had your tubes tied? Since 2018, after 2018.

So I'm thinking I'm shooting blanks, whatever, and it ain't me, huh? Okay. Doug, we got one more. You wanna know if LaToya has any explicit videos on her phone? LaToya says she does not. And my unlock the phone investigator searched her videos and found that LaToya, well, we got a pattern here, is not telling the truth. She has two sexual videos she made with her ex in February. Okay. So I asked you a very specific question if you thought you got into this marriage too quickly. You said the communication has been the best it's ever been. And clearly you know that you might have been communicating, but she has not. The communication has been one-sided, has not been honest. You didn't know each other when you got together and you clearly still don't. And I think at this point right now, What I heard is a man that made a lot of sacrifices that has been putting himself second because you fell in love with a woman. And I think, and this is the same advice I'd give to a woman, I think it's time that you start putting yourself first. It's time that you start figuring out your life and how to feel whole and feel supported. I know you love this woman and I know that you wanted this to work, but unfortunately in 9 months we've already seen her talking to somebody else. She's lied about the family you could build. And then she's also had sex with her ex. So at this point, I understand that information hurts, but you don't deserve to be in a situation in 9 months that is going to have you in a place where you can't be communicated with honestly. Do you wanna stay in this relationship?

No.

You gotta start to lose. See, lemme tell you something. There's things that are not, displayed on here, whatever, that she's forgiven me for that doesn't have to deal with that. So I believe I can forgive her, but we're gonna have to talk about that trust deal because— I'm gonna tell you this, here we go. I'm gonna tell you this. I appreciate you saying that. It's funny because your socks say game over and that's what should have been happening right now. Because, and it's surreal, it's surreal. It's surreal. Let me tell you something. And this is the thing, the same way that I see I see women stay in relationships because they're like, oh, well, he did a little good thing for me and he did this for me and he stuck with me through my bad times. Does not mean that you have to start sacrificing. You just said on this stage that you started questioning your own health. See, you don't understand, those things play into your mental health as well. These things play into your value, your worth. It starts to play into it. And what will happen a year in, 2 years in, you will find yourself feeling, you just saw how she was talking to her ex, the same ex that you asked her not to have these type of conversations or relationships with. I plead with you that you walk off this stage and you figure out and choose yourself.

He was living with me. We wasn't even married.

What's gonna be different?

I don't even talk to him.

Listen, all right, I'm gonna let y'all have this conversation, but I'm gonna leave you one last thing. Just because you stuck with her during the rough times doesn't mean we have to be stuck with her, okay? So I'm trying to give you the same questions. I pray and I wish you the best of luck.

I wish you the best of luck.

Karamo, I wish you the best of luck. Samaria, tell me about your mother kicking you out.

Okay, when she kicked me out a few weeks, it was just, I woke up that morning, I was very tired because I always take care of my 2-year-old nephew. Like I'm always taking care of him, doing everything for him when that's her responsibility. Which I just had a deceased niece that passed, so she's real up and overprotective about him. So I woke up that morning and she walked in there, she was like, "Well, get up and take your nephew to school." But she's not doing nothing. So I'm like, why you couldn't do it? She didn't even say much. She just started arguing with me, yelling, then she called the police. So after she called the police, I'm like, why would you call them? Usually when she called them, she tell them I'm not supposed to be there. So I got real scared.

You said usually when she calls them. So this is a reoccurring?

She called them all the time.

On you?

So when she called them this time, I knew she was gonna try to, oh, she not supposed to be here, send her there, send her here. But this time I had been and got put on probation. So I was real scared about her calling them. So when she called them, I just instantly started recording them because you know when you wanna call the police, I'm gonna pull out my phone. I got my proof. I know what I done. I know I ain't did nothing wrong. So I recorded and they basically just asked me a few questions about do I live there? Do I got stuff in there? And I did. So I told them what happened.

So you sent my producers the video that you said you took that day. Can I see it?

All she did was kick me out this morning because I didn't wanna wake up and feed my nephew. And I got the messages. I've been living here for months. I called y'all yesterday and told y'all these things that she keep doing.

Yeah, that stops today.

Okay, but let me talk to the police officers right quick and unrecord me. No, now I don't appreciate you lying, so I'm not going to unrecord. I don't need to be on social media, that's why I'm not going to post it. I'm just keeping it for my record if I get in trouble. Ma'am, y'all come in.

Okay.

Please.

So where did you end up staying when you left?

Okay, I was staying in my boyfriend's car. Oh yeah, that's my stuff. 'Cause she didn't want me home.

And let me back up. You're 18, you just turned 18, right?

I just turned 18 a few months ago.

Okay. When a lot of this was happening, you were 17?

No, this just happened.

Okay.

All this just happened like right before I came on the show.

Right before the show. But you said there was a, your police being called and all this stuff, so.

Yeah, like she usually called them a lot, but the only reason she started calling them was 'cause they put me on probation. After they put me on probation, she just called them every time.

—like—

What are you on probation for? Okay, my mom, she be putting me out. Around the time that I was 17, when she first put me out, I had to go sleep with a man for somewhere to go, okay? That man, he slept with me that time and he didn't give me anywhere to go. He put me right back outside after we slept together. That made me real uncomfortable 'cause I slept with you to have somewhere to go and now I still don't have anywhere to go. So I broke his windows. But it was only because I needed this, you didn't give it to me, I gave you what you wanted. And basically after that, you know, I'm sorry. I hear you, baby. I basically, you know.

You don't gotta tell any more of the story, I understand, I understand.

Had to find, have somewhere to go. And they had, like me and him got into it, he fought me. Did your mom know about that?

Why you're on probation? Did she know that's the reason?

Not really, she just know that when it came time for court and stuff, I asked her for help. I told her I didn't break the window 'cause I didn't want my mama to go against me. She always would go against me no matter what the situation is.

And where are you staying right now?

Okay, I'm like basically couch hopping. Like I stay here, I stay there, I stay with my cousins sometimes, but I really barely have anywhere to go because it's like every family member that I stay with, somebody who's immediate related to me, like she'll call them, "Oh, Samaria like this, she like that, she'll do this to you, she'll do that to you." When half of the time I probably wouldn't do none of that shit to them. She just wanna be messy, don't want me to have nowhere to go. And I don't appreciate that fact because I be feeling like if I'm put out, I'm your daughter, you love me, why you don't care about the fact that I don't have nowhere to go? Why you don't care about what may happen to me while nobody, you know?

When did the issues start with your, issues with your family start?

It started around the time when I was 15. When I was 15, all this started happening and I had to make friends with my neighbor. I turned my neighbor from the house that we was living in, I turned my neighbor to my best friend. Like I started living with her, staying with her 'cause my mama was constantly putting me out. I was supposed to be going to school, but due to the things that I was doing at my neighbor's house, I never went to school. Like, I probably barely had clothes. I didn't wanna go in no dirty clothes. I didn't wanna go with a fucking headspace 'cause I'm sleeping with men at night. You know what I'm saying? I don't want like they demons on me at school, you know, different stuff going on. But basically—

So you started sleeping with those men at 15? Yeah. And my producer tell me that your mom did know when you were 15 that you were sleeping with men to get by. Yeah, she knew that. She did know that. Okay. She knew. So the only one she didn't know about was the one when you were 7? 17?

Yeah, she didn't know about that one 'cause by that time she had cast me away. She didn't really care. What was her response? She didn't have no response. I guess it's 'cause she do it too. She don't, you know what I mean?

Has your mom kicked you out before? Yeah, she kicked me out all the time. How many times would you say since you were 15?

I didn't stay with my mom much. I mean, I can't even say how it is living in the household with her. I can say that every time I have lived in the household with her, it wasn't comfortable 'cause it was always the next in there with me. You know what I'm saying? I never had my own space. I never had my own room, never had my own, you know what I'm saying? Got it, I understand.

I hear you. It looks like I'm getting a ping from your mom's sister, your Aunt Shalonda. Do you have an Aunt Shalonda? Mm-hmm. Let me hear what she's saying.

Karamo, I'm telling you, you got your hands full with Samaria. She is off the chain. Samaria smokes weed, she sells her body on social media. She lives from pillar to post. She goes to people's houses and try to steal stay, and my sister, she goes over there, she takes food for her to eat. She go to her rescue every time. Samaria is so disrespectful. She puts our business out on Facebook, whether it's the truth or a lie. Samaria has no respect for her family. Our father passed away March 24th. I did not want her at the funeral at all. Then she had the nerve to take a picture while he was laying in his casket. Posted him all on social media and started this whole chaos on Facebook. I told my sister it couldn't be me. Daughter or not, I'm not gonna let a child disrespect me the way that Samaria disrespects her mom, and I don't approve of it. Okay, for one, she needs to shut the fuck up. That's not how it is. Okay, so it's like, for one, I already— like she said about my granddad, that's why I really don't fuck with my family. When my granddad died, they didn't call me down to tell me that he had passed. None of that. I had to find out from my brother. I missed his body viewing because y'all didn't call Y'all didn't tell me nothing about it. And still to this day, I didn't get to view his body till like the funeral day. So I don't know how she gonna say I took pictures.

There have been some text exchange between you and that same aunt. I'm up. Y'all got something to eat like for me to take with me like noodles or anything, but I'm gonna need a bowl. This is you texting your aunt?

Yeah, 'cause I used to work and I needed that for work.

You're not allowed back in my house at all, not for a package delivery or to see my kids or if you're hungry. Okay, and how long ago was this?

This was like the other month ago. This was when my granddad died, March 24th.

Yes, March 24th. So, okay, I get your point of view.

And then they, I don't like that.

But I wanna ask you this, what do you want from your mom today?

I want for her to understand me. I want for her to talk to me better. The way she talked to me like bitch, hoe, I don't want her doing all that 'cause I'm a bitch and hoe you right back. Like I'm gonna say the same shit to you. So it's gonna forever be conflict. We gotta learn to fix the problem. And another thing, like, she be calling me ugly. I don't think she know that that make me feel some type of way. Like, I be feeling like that shit true. I feel like she don't love me, but that's why we here. Okay, I get that. It's all about making this shit better. Okay.

Well, let's see what Shawnta has to say about this situation. So everyone, please welcome Shawnta to the show.

Hey, Karamo. Hi, nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you. So I gotta ask you, how do you feel about everything that was just said?

So Samaria, what we're not gonna do is sit here for the Karamo Show and tell lies. What lies? So that we can get the proper help for you. The first thing is you very disrespectful. Yes, I am. You don't know how to talk to me as a child. I'm your mother. You're not my mother. You're at the age of 18, that makes you part of the world. Partways grown, not all the way grown. As long as you in my house, there are rules to follow in my house. But I barely be in the fucking house. As long as you're in my house, there are rules in my house. You don't let me in the house. When you're there. Okay, when I'm there. Yes, I put you out. And it's a reason for me putting you out. You use profanity towards me. You don't know how to talk to me. Not only that, you have disrespect. And don't you have to be on a regular though? You have disrespect. On a regular, not just when we're arguing, when we're going through it, on a regular basis. You have manic behaviors. To where you destroy property. I do not have to tolerate that from you. Do I have many behaviors because you— Baby, I'm old school raised. You understand me? Old school. I could stand up now. If my mama look at me, she could line me up with her eyes and me and my sister get in line. You do not do that. You go word for word with me. Because you talk— And you weren't raised like that. It's the way you talk though. You go word for word. Like how you talking right now? You don't talk like that at home. When I get in trouble, I talk like that. But I'm not gonna use any profanity on this show, but Karamo, I do. Yeah, like bitch, hoe, fuck, like you don't do all that. As a character, if I call her bitches, fuck, hoe, I'm just being honest with you. That's what I do in the heat of the moment. But understand, it's only after she done did it first.

You get what I'm saying? So were you aware that your daughter was selling her body at 15? Yes. 2023. Okay. Yeah. The only reason I say that is because I know she's an adult now, but I wanna make sure anybody else at home that's aware, because this is my background, this is the field I worked in, you know that if any social service agency would've found that out, you would've been arrested immediately for child neglect and child abuse. I want you to know that. That's point blank. Yeah. Point blank.

So at the age of 17, since we speaking on that, I did have a case open against me.

When she was on the streets, were you able to find her like those times?

Yes, there've been numerous times Samaria have called me. She told me she was hungry, she needed to wash her clothes. When she asked me for things, if I have it, I give it.

And you barely have it. Mom, I wanna ask you something. What do you want to happen today?

I want her to learn to respect. It ain't like I'm making up a story behind her.

Everybody goes through the same thing. She's admitted that she's been disrespectful. She's admitted that she's done these things. She says she's different. You done these things? What's making you emotional right now?

Because it's like, I don't like seeing my family cry. Everybody know I love the shit outta them. I would never do nothing to like make them upset. I don't try to make them upset. Shit that I go through that they don't listen to, they don't care about. And that's what make me upset. And that's what make me rebel. Maybe if you cared, maybe if you asked, maybe if you, what you call it? If you even tried to effort, like even effort, like you don't put in no effort on supporting me. None of that. And then you sitting up here on the show wanna cry, cry about respect for what?

So do you want a relationship with your daughter?

I do want a relationship with her.

Yes, I do. You do.

And you don't believe that? I mean, it's hard to believe.

Your daughter says something and this is real. She said, I want you to understand what I've been through, what I'm going through. Do you think that you ever take the time to really to understand what she's been through?

I have took the time out to understand her and what she goes through. Yeah. But to be honest with you, that's some fairy tale stuff.

Well, the things that we know for sure, and I'm just gonna start here, and this is why I started with this. A young woman at 15, whether she thinks she's making a grown decision or not, doesn't understand her body. Correct. And understand the men who take advantage of her young mind. Correct. And regardless of the attitude or anything else, your little baby has had those situations and those situations are traumatic. They are. And if you've ever had anything traumatic, I know your father just passed, so you know what it is. You get, as much as you're grieving, you get angry at times, you get frustrated at times. And I just want you to put your place in a little girl's mind that is at 15. And yes, she probably had an attitude before, so I'm not trying to pretend. 10, like I didn't think she had an attitude before. But 15, she didn't understand that. And as much as she's not in her head. Tell your mama what you've been through.

Yeah, like, and it ain't even just like, it's like I done been through a lot of stuff. Like it's a lot of stuff you didn't tell me that I was supposed to know. You ain't never came to me and sat me down and told me how I was supposed to be as a woman or anything like that. So it's a lot of shit that men done seen me do they wasn't even supposed to see me do. So I never sat down and talked to you? The way you promote your body on social media. All of that, we had conversations before then. But I'm saying the different little things that I done talked to you about, you gonna sit here and act like I never tried to come to you and talk to you about something. You don't want you come to me and say what you're saying now, I shouldn't be doing it. That's not talking to me, understanding me. That's telling me what I shouldn't be doing. Okay, gotcha. That's authority. That's what you're doing. So you don't take no responsibility? You take responsibility for nothing you ever done. Yes, I take responsibility. It's all my fault. I did it. Yeah.

I'm gonna tell you something. I have no control over it. I'm gonna tell you something. It's not your fault. You were a child that was trying to figure out how to survive in a world that no one prepared you for. And I'm not giving you, I'm not taking you away. This is not your fault and it also does not have to be your story. You understand? I appreciate it very much, Karamo. Your daughter's reaching out to this show You came on the show for help and I really do appreciate you being vulnerable.

I just hope whatever we say on this stage, the resolution we taking home with us and we live that same way day by day, listening to each other and respecting each other.

So for me to encourage her to commit to not using profanity, you have to commit one thing. Is that you'll allow the conversations to only be between y'all. Which means your sister, your mama, anybody else, can't call and do what I heard, where they call her out her name, say anything? Because the thing is, is that a child against several adults, and even though y'all are just all saying what y'all gotta say, I've been in the family, I've seen it. But then it's like it's me against the world. So can you commit to having her back, to saying to everybody else, "I'm not gonna let them talk about you"? Can you tell her?

I'm gonna commit to this. I can't say I'm gonna not have them talk about you because I can't control anyone's action, so I'll be lying to you.

If I sit here and say that.

But I would not let them talk about you or to you around me.

So that's good. That's the perfect commitment. So you actually did what I wanted. Because the thing is that, yeah, we know we all adults, we all got our own mouth. But when you know they're around, you say, "No, not around my daughter." Correct. And that way, if your mother's protecting you from everybody else, can you not, when you get triggered, 'cause I know you're gonna be triggered, can you say, "You know what? I'm gonna show you how smart I am. I ain't gonna cuss at you." As long as she's keeping her commitment and protecting you. Right. Can you do that?

Yeah, as long as you keeping your commitment and protecting me, I'm gonna respect you. I won't be using profanity. I'll find every word in the dictionary before I use a cuss word. Look at that.

All right. Look at that. Hopefully this helped a little bit. One step to help y'all going forward. That's right. All right, good luck to y'all, all right? Thank you. So my sister wanted to pull a prank on Tariq. The whole purpose of the prank was she wanted to make him believe that she was cheating on him. So she asked me to text him and let him know that there was a guy in their house. And he was just mad. He was just going crazy. I never seen him act like that. And she just wouldn't tell him that it was a prank. Like, no, like, as mad as he got, she just wouldn't tell him that it was a prank. And I just feel like she was wrong for that. What? Okay, well, listen, let's welcome Tyrique and hear his side of the story. Tyrique, how you doing?

How you doing today, man? Okay, so—

One bit of that, maybe it's 'cause I'm 43, don't make no sense to me. So she pranked you? She pranked me though.

The world's worst prank in the world.

Yeah, so, but what her brother said, which got me, is that it continued on. But just start me back. So what happened with this prank?

All right, so one day I'm at work, normal day at work. You know, we talk while I'm at work and everything, everything cool. So I had got a text. "Hey, you around, Jim?" I said, "No, what's going on?" 'Cause he never text me like that before. So I said, "What's wrong?" He like, "Give me a call." So I called him and he was like, he basically told me like, "Hey man, I was at the house the other day." He went in the dog room to check on our dogs. He said by the time he made it back to the front of the house, it was a guy coming out the bedroom. I'm like, whoa. I'm just like, oh, all right, okay. That's too much to handle right now. I just hung up the phone. So I just sat there for a little bit and I let it process. I got off of work early. I went home.

[Speaker] Yeah, because if my girl's brother, like this ain't even a friend, this your brother calls and says, man, I was just at the house and my sister was walking out the room. You gonna be, I mean, This is, so when you got home, what did she say?

So I was thinking about like how I was gonna approach her about the situation. So when I first got home, I was like, I walked through the door on my phone already. Like I was watching something. She was in the kitchen cooking. Usually I come in and give her a kiss. I just walked right past her. So I went to the back to the dogs and let the dogs out. She came in the back where I was and she was like, "What's wrong with you?" I'm like, "Nothing, I'm good." So I let that marinate for about like 5, 10 minutes. I said, "Is there something you gotta tell me?" She ain't say nothing.

'Cause that would've been the point to say it's a prank. Right, right. And have your brother pop out, her brother pop out and say, "Surprise, we all joking." Right. It was a stupid joke, but we joking. Right, but hold up.

So now I'm like, "All right, let's just let it marinate in it some more." And then I'm like, I'm in the other room. I said, "All right, babe, I know you pranking me." She's like, "What you mean?" I'm like, "You're pranking me, right?" "It's not a prank. It's not a prank. I'm not pranking you." So I'm like, "So you had a guy in this house?" That's when I, you know, brought it to her like straightforward. "So you had a guy in this house?" She was like, "Huh? What are you talking about?" So I said, "Come on now. Your brother just texted me while I was at work. He said he came over." Long story short, it was a guy in the house. She was like, "Nah." The prank went on for 3 hours. Has she been unfaithful in the past? Um, I mean, we only been together since like April, so it's like 5—

Hold on, y'all been together for 5 months? Yeah.

Uh, oh man.

Yeah.

Um, okay, actually, I'm actually from Baltimore. I left Baltimore. I left everything I had in Baltimore to pursue my relationship with her.

Wow. Well, listen, I think it's time to hear Jem's side of the story. So everyone, please welcome Jem to the show. First of all, you fly. I gotta acknowledge that because even though everything you've done, I've heard, I'm gonna hear your side, but everything I heard is foolish. You still look fly. Thank you. Them boots are cute. Thank you. Now back to what's at hand though. You might look fly, but that was foolishness. What are you doing? Why did you prank him?

I pranked him because I figured showing him how he look on camera of reacting to different men will probably make him see how he really looks, that he looks foolish. Like, this is how you look when you're constantly accusing me, you're constantly being insecure about people that's making comments on social media. I'm not in control. I'm not, stop, why? Let me speak. So we got issues about men already, right? You already spoke though, let me speak. He never listens. That makes me feel like what I'm saying is like, fuck what you saying. It's just a prank, it's a prank.

What is the age difference between y'all?

I'm 32. I'm 42.

So there's a 10-year age difference, okay. So 5 months together? Yes. And have you ever been unfaithful? No. Have you ever been unfaithful? No.

That's why I don't understand why you bring me here to check my phone, to unlock my phone for a prank. You still holding on to a joke? You posting half-naked pictures on Instagram. So that mean I'm cheating? It's men commenting under the comment section. So I got control? I got control of what somebody else write under my post? No, you don't got control over what they write under your post, but you got control on what you do. That's the problem. But what am I actually doing though? I don't respond to inboxes. Listen, I'm a guy, right? I'm a guy, right? Listen, I'm a guy. If you was with another man and I commented under your picture with a heart eyes or said you look good and you like mine, you gave me a 50% chance that I think I can get you now, whether you got a man or you don't got a man. That's not true. But you do the same thing. That's just men. You be on social media doing the same thing. Are you on social media commenting on women? No, I don't comment on photos. He like 'em. I like pictures. First off, I never had a problem with her liking pictures. He likes more of someone else's pictures than mine. He don't even like my pictures. But I see him on other girls' pictures, like, like, like, like. Won't even like none of my pictures at all. That's a lie. That's a lie. I gotta tag him in the pictures for him to like 'em. Well, when I post us on Instagram and I collab the post, she uncollabs the post. What you hiding for? Because he's only posting it. He's only posting it because Because he wants, you know how men do things just to say, oh, I did this. It's not from the concept of heart.

You don't feel like it's genuine?

It's not genuine. Okay, I got that. It's not genuine at all.

So what is he accusing you doing? It's just this, engaging with other men? Yeah.

But you don't believe she's cheated? I mean, it might be. Between the engaging with men and me bringing it to your attention that that's my problem, and then you do a prank, of a guy supposed to be in the house. Because you never see how you really act when I'm trying to tell you, you have nothing to worry about. You got me here, you wanna check my phone thinking I'm cheating? That's a waste of time. You know that, you know me. How did you two meet? She came to my DM on Instagram. That's another reason. So if you, she came to me. So what do that mean? Hey, I feel like everybody's dating now. Everybody's dating through social media. Quiet, quiet.

Everybody's dating through social media. I mean, we're hearing this right now, so I think it's time to unlock the phone. All right, Jem, we unlocked your phone. Tariq, you want to know if Jem has been communicating with anyone on social media. Jem says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Jem is telling the truth. Tyrique, you want to know if Jem has been making phone calls to anyone else. Jem says she has not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her phones and didn't find any calls, but Jem did recently delete 1,000 contacts, which he thought that was suspicious. Why did you delete 1,000 contacts? Contacts? Contacts in your phone were recently deleted.

I don't know about that. It could have been old. I don't know. I mean, what's wrong with deleting contacts?

There's not, but it's suspicious. So that's why we have to bring it up. You come here for a reason and when you come to a show where we're looking for transparency and we look through and there's 1,000 contacts being deleted.

I know I have deleted a lot of people, like pictures and stuff. Stuff of people because I feel like I don't need to have people I used to talk to in my phone.

So that's why you're doing that?

That's the only thing I can think of.

Okay, great. Okay, great. There's answer there. Tariq, you also wanna know if Jem has sent any flirtatious texts to anyone. Jem says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Jem is not telling the truth.

What?

This is my unlock the phone investigator saying there's 70 texts between you and someone between April 17th and 4 days ago talking about stripping. So this is confusing because it's not, you're not talking to a male, you're talking to somebody about stripping. Is there something going on with stripping?

Where is it coming from, my phone or app? Your phone.

Okay, so you wanna come over in here and dance like a party. Stripper. Yes. What are you asking? If you wanna come over there to dance or if you want to come there for the party. To dance. I wouldn't be right now. Whenever you want to come, I got you. Hey babe, what you doing? Oh, oh, I know what that is. When you ready, let me know. You know what this is?

I know what that is. Does he know what this is? Yeah, he knows what it is. Okay. You want me to say what it is? I mean, it's up to you.

This is about transparency for you guys to know.

That's me talking to a stripper. Sometimes I get strippers from different states and I bring 'em down and manage them and put them in the club, set up parties for them. That's what that is. That's me talking to a girl.

You said it's a girl. Yeah, listen, I was confused 'cause it was my, I'm not full investigator, I didn't say it was a guy, it was a girl.

Yeah, it was a girl.

I set up strip parties for them and bring 'em down. So is that something that triggers him? Is that something that, because it sounds like the relationship your relationship has these triggers.

I'm a hustler, baby. Okay. I makes money. I got that. I held this man down. Got it. When he came down to my house with nothing, no job, no nothing. I held him down without complaining. I took care of everything, house, car, gave this man a car to drive. Yeah. Everything, 'cause I'm a hustler. I grind. I don't clock in nowhere. I got that. I have my own everything. I got that. So when I gotta get some strippers together 'cause they need management, I'ma go get 'em.

So, but my question wasn't about you hustling. I respect you as a hustler. You have the right to make your money how you wanna make your money. My question is, is that a trigger in your relationship?

He don't care about the girls. What he worried about more is I interact with a lot of men because of my job.

So there has been a communication. So that's what the walk-off is. Right. Got it, okay. There's more to this. Tyree, come on out. I'm understanding now. I understand now. That's why I had to get to the clarity. I understand now why you hearing about the strippers would make you upset.

And what you walking off for? You know what's going on.

Well, listen, we have one more thing that we had to unlock in your phone. Tyrique, you want to know if Jem has any suspicious apps on her phone. Jem says she does not. My unlock the phone investigators searched her apps and didn't find any suspicious apps, but there's a note that they wanted me to see. Okay, you wrote a note in your phone that says, "Dear diary, he was sick of me yesterday. A girlfriend, I did what I was supposed to do to take care of him. Nothing is ever appreciated. I want my appreciation through kisses, hugs, playfulness, cuddles, and love. I ask myself, am I tripping or overreacting? But my gut is saying different. I'm tired of this. It's pulling me down. I've never been in a relationship like this ever. I feel single and unhappy." I'm happy in this relationship. I want better days. He says he will change, but he won't. It's clear now. I have to prepare myself to leave. Okay. Okay. Okay. So she's hurting in this relationship and I don't think she was expecting my investigator to find that note. So how does it make you feel hearing that note?

I don't like it. I feel like she could have expressed that to me and not in a note.

This is all making a lot more sense, this whole dynamic. Y'all rushed into something, 5 months and started living together, which is way too quick. So you didn't even know each other. When you rushed into something, there was already underlying issues that never got addressed. Handle. And I think one of those issues that you didn't know how to talk to her and understand what she needs. And then she didn't understand your insecurities and understand what was gonna trigger you. You said something earlier, you kept saying 50/50 chance, 50/50 chance that she doing this. I'm gonna say this to you, there's a 50/50% chance that you shouldn't be in this, but there's 100% chance that you need to deal with your trust issues that you brought into this relationship. You got some serious trust issues that didn't start with this relationship. And instead of allowing this to be a fresh start, you built it on the foundation based on that past relationship. Am I right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I figured so. And so now what's happened is that her prank was stupid, but I understand now it's a skewed logic and wrong logic but I understand her logic. Her logic was to show you, stop treating me this way. Instead of doing a prank, she should just communicate that with you. So my question to you is that can you work on your trust issues so you stop triggering this woman?

I mean, I think I can. After today, after you unlock the phone, I feel like 100% more better.

You feel 100% better, but you got a woman who does not. Right.

Yeah, so that's why I—

So what are you gonna do for her?

That's my job to make that better as a man and her partner.

What needs to happen here in this 5 months is if you're gonna really start to seal up those cracks in this foundation, you gotta communicate and you gotta hear what she wants. She just said while you were out here that he doesn't listen to me, that he listens to combat. Those are her words. So you need to listen to her. So if you're gonna go back there and try to salvage this, you need to say to her, what do you need? I'm telling you, go back there and do that work, all right? All right, wish you the best of luck. All right, stay with us, friends. We'll be right back with more.

I love you, okay? I just need you to tell me what it is that you need or want from me. I'm willing and I wanna make our relationship better. You have to trust me. You have to listen. You have to let me speak. Hear me out and then receive everything that I'm saying. We gonna do better here on out, okay? All right.

So how's it been being a single mother?

Not easy. There's 3 of them and they're all very young.

How old are your kids?

My oldest is about to be 4. 4. And then my twins are about to be 3.

3. Okay. Oh yeah, your hands are full.

I had them very quickly. I was only 5, my daughter was only 5 months when I got pregnant with my twins. Of the twins. Wow. And I was on my own for it.

So why doesn't he believe that one of the twins is his?

If you see her hair color, she's got the red hair. He's got two other kids with another woman and one of them is a redhead, but it's bright red hair. So because it's the different shades of red, it can't be his kid. Oh. And when I found out that I was pregnant, he came to the first ultrasound with me. I was 6 weeks pregnant. 6 weeks pregnant with the twins, scared out of my mind. They were measuring 3 days apart because my egg dropped, got fertilized, another egg dropped, got fertilized. He said, so who'd you sleep with? 3 days apart, it's gotta be a different dad or else that wouldn't happen.

My producer had to tell me that backstage. I did not know that one egg could drop and that it could fertilize and then you could potentially with another man fertilize another egg. Did y'all know that? This is like for real, like I did not know that. Did you take an at-home Did you do a DNA test?

We did with Skylar, our oldest, because he, I posted a photo of her when she was a baby. She was very jaundiced and he said she looked black, that that was not his child, could not possibly be his, no way. Mind you, she was a planned pregnancy. Yeah. I make it halfway through the pregnancy, found out he cheated on me with another girl, got her pregnant, and I said, okay, I'm leaving.

He got, did that other girl have the baby? Yeah. So your 3, she has another one? So he has 5. She has another one.

He's 8 months apart from my daughter. Oh wow. And then she also has another kid with him. They ended up, she's got 5 kids now.

So he, 'cause he's the same age as you and he has 5 kids? Yeah. Okay, okay. Do your children have his last name? No. Your children don't?

He was not at the hospital, but he was at those other kids' births. Oh wow. But didn't come to mind. My sister had to come with me. I called him when I was in labor with my first child and he said, "Fuck you, not my kid." Really? And then with the twins, I called him and said, "I'm in labor." He said, "Fuck you, I'm with my new family now." His exact words were fuck you?

Mm-hmm. Wow. Did he propose to you before?

Yeah, when I was pregnant with Skylar because the other woman was pregnant and I'd reached I reached out to her and I said, how do you feel about me being the stepmom? Like, how do you feel about me being involved? And she said, not unless y'all are married. We got engaged.

[Speaker] Good for you because that's maturity. Sad for this other young woman. Because as y'all know, I have a series called Co-Parenting Unlocked with my son's mother. And one of the things is like, you're like, we both got children by him, so they're gonna be in each other's lives. So at least you were trying to say, let me just give you the respect to say, how are you feeling? What can we do? But the fact that she denied it, that's only gonna damage the kids. My producer told me that the first time that he saw the twins was at the DNA lab this past Monday. Yes.

What happened? He came into the room, my daughter immediately looked at him, my oldest Skylar, and said, "Hi, Daddy." And I started bawling my eyes out. And then while I was getting swabbed and stuff like that, I was like, "Hey, can you help me? Can you help me with them? They're crying, they don't wanna be here." And he goes, "Yeah, once I know that they're my kids." I did say that.

Well, listen, let's meet your ex-boyfriend. Please welcome Mason to the show to get his side of the story. Hey Mason, how you doing? Hello. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. How do you feel about what she just said?

I mean, she's not wrong on a lot of things, but I don't know, it's just really a confliction in my head with the, a lot that happened back then.

What happened back then that's making you have these conflicted feelings?

I just kept hearing thing after thing after thing of, oh, she was with these people, and oh, hey, did you know that she did this?

Did you know that she was with this person? And I was like, what? I just thought—

I knew it wasn't true. I was with you when the kids were conceived. We lived together. You weren't always with me.

So why don't you be Why don't you believe Skylar is yours? When she came out, she looked darker. I had no doubt that that kid was mine until she came out. Okay, well—

You said it afterwards too, though. After you met her, you said it after, you said it last night at the hotel.

Okay, why don't you believe one of the twins isn't yours, though?

I have a strong feeling that the boy is mine 'cause he looks like a clone of me.

He looks exactly like me. With the girl, it's very, difficult. Mhm. Because they're twins. Your son's name is River, correct? Yes. So you're saying to me that you believe that River could be yours? Oh yeah. Then why not be in his life? 'Cause I'm all about being fair. I can give you the benefit of the doubt. If you really feel like your child's skin tone has come out darker than what you assume should have come out, 'cause you're, you're both white. So if your skin, child's skin is darker and you're having some questions, got it, I understand. If you think the twins, one might not be yours, again, like I just found out medically that is possible. But if you're telling me outta your own words that you believe that he's your splitting image, then why not step up for him?

What if a few years down the road, okay, say none of this happened or whatever and I was involved. I just heard a story about someone who was involved for 10+ years and it wasn't even their kid. Mm-hmm. But you've been there since day one and when River came out looking like you, where were you? Not there. You know everything about those other kids. You've been there for every single step of the way with those other kids. What do my kids eat? Are they allergic to anything? What size diapers do they wear? What size shoes do—

I just want to confirm, how old are you? I am 22 years old. And how many potential kids do you have? 5. 22 and 5 potential kids.

You've got 5 possible kids and yet you're sitting here talking about making a 6th one with me. Shop's closed.

So you've asked her to have another kid? Yeah. So let me ask you, why would you ask her to have another kid if you don't believe that the 3 she already has is yours? Yours. And also, why you want another kid? You 22. Listen, no, we got to ask this, cuz I got money and it's hard to raise 2. I know you ain't got no money, so how you raising 5? I ain't being shady or nothing, but like, for real, you 20— I had 22, I had no money. So what you doing at 22?

How you going to afford them?

I don't know. Okay. So when did you ask her to have a sixth? About a week ago. Okay. Did y'all hook up last night?

No. No.

Okay, good. All right. Did you try to hook up with her last night? Oh yeah. Okay, you tried. Okay, you tried. Do you have a job? Not currently, no. Okay. Okay. I told y'all, see, I wasn't being shady. See, before when I said that you ain't got no money, y'all think I'm being shady. I told you 22. Okay then. So why not have a job?

I'm actively looking. It's hard in my area because—

You sound like my 23-year-old. I get it. Yeah, listen. It's very hard in my area. It's not hard. You can get something at Burger King, but I understand these excuses. I got 23. I don't wanna work at Burger King. No, seriously, that's a great job. Like you can go get something, especially if you have potentially 5 kids. Any job at any income is good. Is going to be what you need. And I say that to say, sometimes we have these expectations in our heads of like, well, I want this job. But if you got 5 mouths to feed, even if you just have the 2 that you're claiming, you need money. Exactly. Okay.

And I haven't had the choice. I had to go out and get a job. You want me to get a 6th kid again, but shop's closed. We're done. No more kids.

Mason, let me ask you a question. Do you know how much diapers cost? Yeah.

He doesn't even know the word.

Do you know how many diapers kids at this age go through? A lot. Okay. Do you know how much wipes cost? A gallon of milk? Yeah. Okay, okay. I'm not gonna question you on it because these are the things I just wanna make sure you understand while you're sitting here. And I'm glad that we're gonna be getting this DNA truth today because while you're saying like, I don't need to, and you're having this luxury of walking in and out of these children's lives, not being there at all, there's expenses that are piling up that she's taking care of, you know? You're doing this all by yourself? Yep. Yeah.

Completely all by myself. My family doesn't even live anywhere near me anymore, so it's me. If I go to the store, I've gotta get them all out. If I do anything, I've gotta take them all with me. I don't ever get a break. I don't ever get to not, I'm sick and tired of it. Yeah, I'm tired. Low car.

You just made the argument that people raise kids that aren't theirs. If these kids are yours and you've missed these years of their lives, are you gonna try to be there in their lives now? Oh, definitely. Definitely? Okay. So my producer told me we have a voicemail from Darcy, Mason's mother. Let's hear what she has to say.

Mason, you have created 5 beautiful children, and now it is time to grow up and be the man that I raised you to be. They all deserve to have a father present in their lives. I hope that once you have the results, you can put the drama and the bad decisions to rest and be the father that all these babies need and leave the past behind us.

Was your father in your life? Yes. He's always been in my life. 'Cause I was watching your body language, the tapping, your eyes.

I'm a very anxious person.

You're anxious. Yeah. What's your relationship like to your mother? Really well. Really well?

I'm close to both of my parents.

Okay. So do you feel pressure easily? Yes. Okay. Well listen, I think it's time to get DNA truth. Let's get to the truth. Katie, you wanted to prove that these children aren't his. His. We have 3 envelopes for 3 different children. And these envelopes are the DNA truth. So let's start with the first one. Skylar, let's find out. How do you feel in this moment?

Can I just say before I open these? Yeah. This is ridiculous. 3 kids, 3 tests. Doubting one, I could get. Doubting just Skylar, I could understand. I understand, she was the first one. I get it. The twins, we were together. We were together, we wanted Skylar. The twins, we were together. I never left, I had an infant. Mason, Skylar is your biological daughter.

Karamo. Karamo. How do you feel? Relieved. Relieved? Relieved. Really? Yeah. I don't think you feel relieved. No? I don't. You haven't been around enough to feel relieved. I think what it is is gonna be, especially since you just admitted that you have anxious behavior, I think it's better for you to be honest about what your true feelings are because when you're not honest about them, you'll then start to react in a negative way. It's okay to say I'm scared. You now know you have 3 confirmed children and you're 22 with no job. It is okay to say I'm afraid. I'm afraid. It's okay.

All right.

You think you owe her an apology?

I'm sorry. Apology with tears. I don't think you'll get tears, but I'm sorry.

Okay. Well, we have two more children here. We have two more kids, the twins that you have been questioning. You said one looks like you and the other one doesn't. Time for that truth as well.

Mason River is your biological son.

And River's the one that you thought looked like you? Yeah. Okay, so this is the one that you don't think looks like you that has started this, correct? Yeah. There you go. Your truth to be open.

Mason, Summer is your biological daughter. I've told you since day one, I have been telling you for years and begging you to be there. You went off and you raised other kids that you're not even 100% sure are yours 'cause you never asked for DNA. But you got DNA now. You gonna be there?

Yeah. How you feeling about this DNA truth? Ah. I'm happy, really. Believe it or not. I'm not.

3 and a half years that you've missed. For what?

It's hitting your ass hard now, right? Yeah. Yeah. Do your kids know you as daddy? I heard Skylar saw you the other day and she walked in and she said, "Hi, Dad." Yeah, she calls me Dad. They all call me Dad. Mm-hmm. You do know those memories as children stick with people. Knowing that my dad walked in a room and avoided me. Yeah.

Okay. I have to tell them that you left them to go raise another family unless you finally decide to step up.

Yeah, 22. It's time to start making some, to really looking at life. That's what I want to do. I don't think you know how to. And I'm gonna tell you the first thing that you need to do is stop trying to have babies with women.

That's good.

Seriously, seriously. It ain't gonna do you no good. It's not gonna do you any good. You have 5 children before the age of 22. As you get older and older, this is only going to become more difficult as they need more things.? Right now I just talked about diapers, wipes, and milk. What happens when they need books, school clothes, lunch cards, this, that? It is time for you to take a hard reality of the choices you are making because it's not gonna be easy. But you can't be out here running wild anymore talking about like, let's have sex, let's do this. If you want to have sex with a woman, you need to be responsible enough to wrap it up. Seriously, enough is enough. Being responsible in the way you make choices about how you engage with your body and other people's bodies also shows how you'll be responsible in your entire life. And what you've been doing is avoiding responsibility. I know that the first pot kid popped up and you were in between two women and that fear hit your ass. And you're in this ping pong game of how do I become responsible and how do I not? It even goes back to what you said about having a job. I'm 23, there's no jobs around. There's a job you can get. If you just try to get to work every day, if you try to show her respect, if you try to show those love, dad loves you, you're going to wake up one day and you're gonna have kids around you who adore you, who look up to you, women who respect you as the man you should be respected as. And I believe you can do that. Are you willing to make that choice? Yes. The commitment is here. Y'all gotta co-parent. Y'all gotta figure this out. You were lucky enough to have two parents in your life and your kids deserve that too. Okay? Okay. Sit down for me. So you had a breaking point in your marriage with Shay?

Absolutely. What's going on? I can't take it no more. We went from being best friends and now it's, All we do is fight and argue and I can't take it no more.

I know how when it gets to that place, but I need to back up a little bit. So y'all met behind bars. We did.

Okay, tell me how that worked out. I was broken. I lost my family. I lost everything when I went to jail. I was so depressed. I wouldn't even get out of my bed. Aw, poor baby. And then about 5 months later, here she comes. And she won't leave me alone. She's just there all the time. Hi, you know, how you feeling? How you doing? I'm like, get away from me. No, she's just very persistent. And so she got me to where I was talking to people again. I was getting out of bed. I was exercising.

Why we keeping on the mug shots? My producers are so shady. Oh my God. They out, they free.

They're terrible.

They are terrible. Exactly. They so shady. Okay, so she was pursuing you. Mm-hmm. And then you became more than friends.

We did. Okay. We did. Well, I kind of told her I had feelings for her before we went to prison.

Okay. So there was a little history before y'all went to jail.

Yeah, just a little bit. Just, you know, I'm not ready for anything right now, but eventually, you know, I'll still be here when all them other girls are gone, 'cause she's going through girls. Okay, confident, got it.

Mm-hmm. Very. Okay, very, right? No. Okay. Yeah. But when did the cheating start?

Oh, about 2 weeks after we made it official, which is when we got out of prison.

I know you gottin' out, but did y'all have that conversation, said we want monogamy? Well, no. Okay, would you have been down for a little, you know?

At first, I just got out of prison, you know, at first it was one way, but you know, it wasn't that way for very long.

Okay, so you would've been down for a little if there was open communication? Communication. Exactly. Okay, my producer told me something that I thought was a little wild. She could have been released from jail earlier, but she stayed in because of you?

Yeah, I was panicking. They wouldn't send me back to a rehab or anything like that. They said I had to go to prison and I was so terrified. She said, well, you know what? Instead of going on probation, how about I just sign with you? So she signed with me. We literally rode to prison together on the same bus.

It's so misguided, but also so sweet.

We even got out 6 days before her.

I can't even lie, I'm not even gonna Like if I was on the outside, I would've given her different advice, but that is very sweet. How long was her, was it extended because she stayed with you? Like was it another month, 2 months?

No, it was another year.

Another year? Yeah, 18 months. 18 months?

18 months.

Wow. That's the misguided part, you see? It's sweet, but it's the misguided part, okay. So are you married now? We are. You are married? We are. Okay, congratulations. I love love. Thank you. My producer, I remember telling me that she accused you of sleeping with her brother.

Oh yeah, yeah. I'll have you know, I was— I don't like him at all. I mean, I don't like him. Yeah. He irks my nerves.

Yeah. So I just wanna confirm, 'cause I always have to ask, you're not sleeping with her brother? Absolutely not. There's been no intimate contact?

Intimate relationship at all? Absolutely not.

I just wanna be clear, you know what I mean? I think it's time to hear what Shay has to say. So everyone please welcome Shay to the show.

What do you mean? What do I mean? What the fuck you mean by me cheating and me going off of you and stuff like that? Do you talk about the times where you went off on me? Yes, I did. I said it's become where it's tit for tat now. And it's killing me because it hurts my heart doing that to you. It breaks me. You're my best friend. You're supposed to be my best friend.

Shay, you told my producers that you two stopped having sex.

Yes. We stopped having sex because of the simple fact that For one, she accused me every single day of cheating, but also you can insult me, you could call me out my name, you can belittle me and call me a nigger.

Ooh. You do that, girl? You tell me that you wanna. Okay, you know that's a no-no, girl.

It was the one thing, she was my best friend, it's the one thing I knew would set her off. My kids are mixed, it had nothing to do with that. That's not an excuse. I was specifically trying to piss you off is why I said that. That's not an excuse. That's not an excuse. You think I didn't feel bad for saying it? And then honestly, it's also, it's also you saying that you wanna fuck with me. But you're not gonna mention that you wake me up all night. You're saying that you wanna fuck my brother. I only say it because you're constantly accusing me of it. I've had it, Shay, I've had it. Then what the fuck you think I had it with? You wake me up, I don't get to sleep anymore because you wake me up all night. All hours of the night accusing me of cheating. You woke me up in the morning. You literally wake me up in the morning saying, oh, you talk to that bitch last night? Oh, you wanna go fuck that bitch last night? Like what the fuck?

What is that? So now I understand why you think that she's sleeping with your brother because she said it to you. Yes. Got it.

My whole thing is—

I wanna ask you a question first really quickly. Did you really stay in jail an extra 8 months longer to be with her?

Yes, I really, I really, I really out for her. I stood up for her. You know, I didn't let nobody mess with her. And I'm still like that to this day. She's so focused on accusing me of cheating, trying to find some female that I'm talking to. She don't focus on what I do for her and these kids. She don't understand the relationship I have with these kids. Their own damn father don't want nothing to do with them.

Do you appreciate the—

I do. They call her dad.

And so y'all are raising them together?

She's the only person they have ever known. Yeah, okay.

I'm gonna ask you both point blank. Have you, Heather, ever cheated on Shay? Never. Shay, have you ever cheated on Heather? No. Okay. How do you feel about Heather?

I love Heather. I love Heather 'cause she's a genuine person. She's a very passionate, nice, genuine person. But what I do not love about Heather is her emotional ways. And she, you know, when somebody talk about something, they can get over it. She can never get over it. It's always aggressive, aggressive, aggressive, aggressive. I never get time to breathe and be like, leave me alone. Is that true? Well, I've had a rough past. You live and you learn. And she's hurt me enough times at this point that I'm struggling. I'm trying to figure out how do I hurt you? How? You have not physically seen one female that come in the yard, but there's multiple dudes that come into your yard. You make fun of me all the time. You're picking on— Those people you defended me from in prison, you have become. And you know what? Them people, it never bothered me. I didn't care about them. I didn't give two fucks what they thought. But you? You know how bad you're breaking my heart? I am in love with you. I'm in love with you too, but when you go on your rants, when you can't control your emotions, it breaks that bond, it breaks that trust. And it's not a two-way street, right? No, it's just me, right? That's what you're saying, it's just me? I'm not saying it's just you. I've got to the point where it's tit for tat. When you hurt me, I can't help but lash out, I have nothing left. All I do is lash back out at you. When you hurt my feelings, I go after you in every way I can think of, 'cause I want you to see how bad you hurt me. I want you to hurt as bad as me. So you saying, so you telling me that when you say, oh, I wanna go fuck this person, you not satisfying me, I wanna go fuck that man, I wanna go fuck that man, I wanna go have sex with that man. How can you say anything about a man when you're with a whole female? How? Because it bothers you. You need to choose what you want. This is real life, please. I want you. This is real life. You are the first person in my whole life I have ever been faithful to. And you're right, you are a female. And we don't have sex. And I am still faithful. I'm gonna come over here with you a little bit 'cause I already know she's gonna get a little aggressive.

I'm not. Shea, did you feel more free in jail than you feel now?

Do I feel more free in jail?

Yeah. Than you do in this house?

Oh yeah, because it's something— I feel like I'm isolated. I'm from the city. She's from the country. It's a difference. We come from two different environments. I want to go travel and work. I'm used to traveling. I can't even go travel 'cause this girl be like, I be like, babe, you know I'm not making the money that I'm supposed to. I'm supposed to be making here 'cause this is a low economy, like a low income environment we live at. So therefore I wanna branch out and go somewhere else and make a higher income for not only me, but to provide for you and the kids. But how am I supposed to do that when you all, you tell me if you go, you don't even have to come back. You say that? I do. Okay. If she wants to leave me, she can leave, but she—

I got it. Okay, I got it. Shay, Heather also turned over her phone to our unlock the phone investigator. And Shay, you want to know a couple things as well. Has Heather been communicating with a specific list of men? If Heather has been using any apps to communicate with other men and women? And if Heather has been communicating with your brother, his name is Trevon? Yes. Trevon? Yes, Trevon. And if Heather has any explicit photos on her phone? What's on the line for you if any of that stuff comes up? We're done. You're done?

I can't deal with that because of the simple fact that I'm not finna keep putting these kids in an unhealthy situation. I love those kids to death, but at the end of the day, I can't go to courthouse for them kids. I go to courthouse for my son, but I can't go to courthouse for them kids. Don't matter how much I love you.

Before we get to the unlock phone results, Shay's brother Trey is here. Please welcome Trey to the show.

Can I talk my shit right quick? Relationship toxic as fuck. Shay, you could do way better than her. And I'm gonna go ahead and correct you, bro, about that shit, bro. I don't give a fuck about no camera right now. I'm gonna go ahead and correct that shit, bro. At the end of the day, underneath this skin, bro, we bleed the same thing. We got the same vessels. We got all that shit, bro. Whether you man or female, real shit, bro. On God, bro. And first of all, let me go ahead and tell you something. I would never, ever, ever, look, what looks good in the inside doesn't mean it look good on the outside to me, baby. Let's go ahead and correct that right now. I would never, ever, ever in my life sleep with you. And second of all, Shay, lemme go ahead and tell you something. Hold up, what? What you about to say? Lemme go ahead, no, no, no, no, no. What you about to say? You think this is the fucking bitches he be with? Yeah, listen, fuck all that. Are you kidding me? What you got to say about that? You too good of a girl to be with some shit like this. That's trash. You too good of a person to be with somebody that's like, that's gonna belittle you and treat you like shit. And you think I just started doing it for no fucking reason? Man, you a piece of shit. You a piece of shit. My sister helped got your kids back. My sister helped got your kids back. My sister got a job, she take care of you, she take care of your shit. I could give a fuck. Started controlling me, I can't wear makeup no more, I can't wear what I wanna wear no more.

I can't even speak to no man anymore. I don't care if they're 79, 70 years old.

I can't even speak to a man without you pressing on me.

This is not my job. Okay, Trey, I'm gonna say this, Trey. Trey, what I do appreciate is what you've told and shared that lets me know is that your conduct when she's not around. And I think that's one of the most important things.

Says the one who's been hooking him up with girls in the background in the first place.

She tosses. Well, listen, Trey, I appreciate your perspective. I appreciate what you shared with me. And I think it's time to unlock the phone.

Unlock, unlock, unlock, unlock.

Heather, we unlocked your phone.

Never had a lock on it. Okay.

Shay wants to know if Heather has been communicating with a specific list of men. Heather says she has not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her phone and found that Heather is telling the truth. Shay, you wanna know if Heather has been using any apps to communicate with other men and women. Heather says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found that Heather is not communicating with anyone, but she has had visited 4 different hardcore porn sites in the past couple of weeks. Now this is specific based on, girl, we saw on your phone.

What you been watching? I've watched porn one time in the last two years.

One time. Well, the sites have been visited. We find all of it. Okay, so the ones who are on the platform. But what was specific about it, I guess, is that the fact that it's male porn.

I don't watch porn on your phone. Then why is it there? I don't watch porn on your phone. I watch porn on my own phone when it's needed.

Yeah, male and female.

I got it. I told you I watched porn before.

I told you. The reason that my investigator pointed that out is just because of the fact that the sites were there and that it was female and male porn that was watched. And I know that was one of the insecurities.

Is that the thing you— No, I don't watch female and male porn no more. I watch—

That's just what we found. That's just what we found. That's not what I watch. That's what we found. Shay, you wanna know if Heather has any explicit photos on her phone? Heather says she does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her photos and found that she is not telling the truth. My investigator found 2 suspicious photos of Heather on her phone of men. Can I see these? It says they're not explicit in nature, so I'm not sure what it is. So let me see what this is. Okay. Hey, smartphones don't lie. Smartphones don't. Now you know why we unlock phones. They don't lie. All right, here we go. Let me see this.

Who's this? That's my dad. Okay, got it. Okay. That's my dad. This your dad too?

That's my dad. Okay, we just gotta ask. Makes sense. Now we understand. All right, so you have this. Shay, now it's time to unlock your phone. All right, here we go. All right, Heather, you wanna know if Shay has sent any explicit explicit photos and videos to other women on her phone. Shay says she has not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her phone and found that Shay is not telling the truth. My investigator found over 17,000 photos, 391 videos, and found—

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can we see those? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

So 17,000 photos, not all explicit in nature, but they're enough to flag my investigation. He said that she— You can't see the pictures? You think I'm gonna print up 17,000 photos? No. Are they recent? I'm not gonna print up that much. Are they recent? What happened? Are they recent? It's all in her phone. Yeah. There was one suspicious video Shay made with the caption, "This how I ride ya." What is that about?

Oh, that's just a video of me dancing. That's not, that's nothing explicit. Listen, with no female or nothing, it's me dancing.

Got it, okay then, cool. Okay, perfect. Heather, you wanna know secondly if Shay has been communicating with specific women. Shay says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched Shay's phone and found that she's not telling the truth. He found 3 female names in her contacts that were recently deleted. Heather, you wanna know if Shay has specific apps on her phone Do you communicate with other women? Shay says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched Shay's apps and found that she is not telling the truth. My investigator found two different apps, WhatsApp and Telegram. Do you communicate with other people on those?

Yes, she knows about both of those apps. I don't talk to any females on those apps.

Okay. Now what I've noticed in this moment is, like I said before from the beginning, neither one of you have ever been able to really communicate your desires. You both came from a fragile state and got into another state where it became codependent. And this codependent relationship has turned completely toxic. I can tell you where this is gonna go. And I say this professionally. In another year, your brother is right. If y'all stick in this relationship, it is gonna turn violent. It is going, so there is gonna be someone who's gonna react and that reaction is going to be bad. She, you're still in this place right now where you're dealing with your emotions, especially your emotions. And your anxiety after dealing with years of addiction. And she still has to handle that. Are you seeing counseling still? Okay, good. So I'm glad that you have that. So that allows you to be able to monitor your feelings and try to manage them. But y'all not doing a good job. You met in jail, but you're still policing each other right now. And if I could give y'all any advice, end this right now. It's for you to end this and then you have to take the steps to move on. So I've given y'all what's happening and what you need to do to move forward. And I pray that you take my advice, okay?