Unlock The Phone: Who Is Sending Those Messages? | KARAMO

My guest Danielle convinced her quarantine bae to be her boyfriend 3 years ago. He admits to being unfaithful, but claims he's done cheating. Danielle wants me to unlock Cheston's phone and see if he's really changed his ways. Everyone, please welcome Danielle to the show.

Well, me and Cheston have been together 3 years. The first year, he just wanted to be like a super big playboy. He wanted to call all his exes and just make things so hard for us for the next 3 years. He cheated on me with one and he just doesn't admit to nothing for a year, months and months.

But you caught him being unfaithful?

Yes.

Tell me about that.

So he went over to his ex's house and he would not invite me and I couldn't go with. He's there, it's like midnight, 1 in the morning or something. He didn't come back till 4 in the morning. I was like, no. So I Googled this address and I found out it was his ex's house and he still wouldn't admit it.

Well, when did Justin ask you to be his girlfriend?

I, well, okay, so we quarantined together and I was, we were intimate, we got intimate and I was like, I'm not gonna keep just being intimate with you for no reason. I was like, I need a relationship or I need us to be, otherwise I just, you know what I mean? I'm not just gonna be hanging out with you for no reason.

I need a relationship.

Yeah, you like, if I'm gonna give up the cookies, I need, you like, okay, I got it. I need some type of commitment. So, so she was still like, stuck on one of his exes. He was like heartbroken still from that. But I was like, it's time to move on. We're gonna move on together now. So I like pushed and pushed him to be with me and we were and I thought everything was going good, but he just felt like he wanted to be a player.

Is there any other suspicious behavior that he's doing that's triggering you?

Well, sometimes when I go to work, I record. I heard him talking to somebody in the hallway, some female in the hallway. And then he came in the apartment and then I was like, well, who were you talking to? And he's like, nobody. So like a month after that, My neighbor, and she is, I always caught her like lurking in front of my doors. I was like, who is this lady? He's just like, I don't know, just crazy neighbor, whatever.

So he's talked to her and then said later that she's a crazy lady.

He just acts like he don't know her at all.

So I heard you just talk about that you have cameras and you like to record because you wanna check up on something. Is that because you're looking at Justin while you're at work?

Yes, 'cause I don't know what's going on with him, 'cause he just lies.

Does he know that the camera's there?

I mean, he caught on after a while 'cause I'd be like, what's this? Who's this? And he's like, you're recording? Okay, so you're recording.

Okay, has Cheston ever admitted to cheating?

Yes, he has.

He has admitted?

Well, like finally he admitted that one time that he went to his ex's and then just randomly, okay, so randomly like a year after he's like, well, when we were at the casino that one time and you went home early, I slept with a girl at the casino, like some random girl named whatever her name is. And I was like, what?

Got it.

A year later, like what?

So why did you stay?

I stayed because he's always like, but that's not me no more. This isn't me no more. He's like, it's not me. And I wanna believe him and I'm like 36. I wanna believe him and I love him.

So why do you want me to unlock Cheston's phone?

Like I said, we're about to move in together and I just need to know what, I just need, 'cause like I'm telling like, tell me the truth. You could just tell me.

Mm-hmm, okay.

And if he doesn't tell me the truth, I gotta go. Like, it's time to go.

Got it. Well, listen everyone, I think it's time to meet Danielle's boyfriend, Cheston. So everyone, please welcome Cheston to the show.

None of it's real.

How you doing, Cheston? Take a seat.

Hey, how you doing?

How you doing? Good. All right, so how do you feel about what you just heard?

None of it's real. Some of it's real, but not all of that.

What's not real?

None of what is it? What's not real?

You went to your ex's?

Yeah, that's real. That's about it.

Yeah.

The girl at the casino?

But I don't know nobody who live in your building. I don't know none of that.

But it has to be, I mean, she's not knocking for me.

She ain't knocking for me.

Have you ever cheated on Danielle in the past?

Yeah, I have, but that was in the past. That was years ago. I ain't doing it now.

How long? 'Cause y'all been here for 3 years.

2 years ago.

2 years ago you cheated on her?

2021.

Okay. Do you believe that?

I really want to. That's great. I should be able to. Like by now I should be able to.

Yeah, we should be better than that. We should. It's gonna be 3 years next year, next month.

Are you still communicating with any of your exes? No.

I got a whole new different number now.

He did change his number and so, yeah.

Okay. How do you feel about Danielle's accusations?

They hurtful. They ain't real. We should be better than that.

He's saying they're hurtful. What do you think?

Yeah.

What do you think about that?

I don't know. I don't wanna hurt him and I don't wanna be hurt though neither.

Why were you not willing to just be honest in the beginning?

We was having problems. We was going through stuff, arguing every day about the same thing. She was talking to people.

No. Oh, so you were talking to people as well during that time?

He just says that. Like, he just really says that. No, you weren't. No, I wasn't.

Oh, you ever talked to a couple people?

Who? Okay. How do you feel about the fact that you were being recorded at home?

It bothers me, but it don't, 'cause I don't got nothing to hide. I ain't doing nothing.

So why did you agree to unlock the phone?

'Cause I'm to show her that I don't got nothing to hide. Why you think I'm here? Why you think I'm with her?

Yeah. Do you want a future with this woman?

Yeah. I wanna marry her. Yeah.

Okay.

Of course.

Why?

'Cause I love her.

Oh, that made you giggle. Oh, so okay.

Well, that feels good when I hear nice things.

Yeah, no, I'm with you. I heard it, okay. So if he's saying to you, "I'm not doing anything," if he's saying to you, "I wanna be with you," if you watch on the camera that you put in your own house that he hasn't been doing anything, why are you still convinced that he's cheating on you?

It's just hard to believe and it's hard.

I show you every day I change though. I'm not the same person from back then.

And I would like to believe that. I really would like to believe that.

What's blocking you from believing that?

I don't know. I just feel like I've turned into like this most untrusting, unbelieving person.

Do you agree that he's doing the work?

I believe that he is trying, yes. He really—

Well, it's not believe. Do you see it? Does he do the work?

Yes.

Do you see a future with Cheston?

Yes, I do. I need to be able to trust him again.

Yeah, so a lot of the things that you told my producers that you're worried about where he goes.

Yes.

GPS?

That GPS don't be accurate either.

So.

You know, it can't be.

Okay, so you're concerned about where he goes all the time?

Well, no, I'm not concerned. Well, not where he goes all the time. It's only if we're fighting, he goes hang out with his brother.

That's concern.

Yeah.

So you're concerned when you argue that he goes somewhere?

Yes.

What do you think he's doing?

I don't know, I think that he, Puts it up maybe. Well, he don't—

So he just, without me even saying anything, he just said, well, GPS is wrong. Like, I didn't even say nothing yet. How's GPS wrong? You know what we talking about.

She do it at work sometimes. She track me at work, you know, and I don't be—

You track him at work?

And I don't be in the same place. I be in one place and it say I'm somewhere else that I haven't even been.

Hold on, so do you track him at work?

I do.

You do?

I track him almost everywhere.

I try to. You track him everywhere? Wow. How do you feel about the fact that she's tracking?

I don't like it. I don't like it. 'Cause she should trust me more.

It has been a while. I feel like I should trust him more, but like I said, I just don't know. Google Maps or Google Raw Data Maps will show him like right at like where my old best friend's house is, like the red dot, boom, right there. And I'm like, so did you—

So you think he went to your ex-best friend's house?

Yeah, I think he did.

Do you think he's having an affair? You think he's having an affair with your ex-best friend?

I think that she, gave him oral while I was sleeping one time and they admitted that.

Did her ex-best friend give you oral?

Yeah, we slept in the bed together, all three of us.

I had to drag that out of them too. I had to go and say, she said this, he said that, just to get them to say that to each other.

Got it, okay. Listen, everyone, I think it's time to reveal the outcome of the unlock the phone results. All right, Danielle, I wanna know, what do you think we're gonna find in this phone?

I'm unsure. I'm hoping nothing.

Okay. If you find out that he's cheating on you, are you gonna leave the relationship?

Yes.

You are?

Yes, I am.

You are?

Yep. Yes, I am.

Well, listen, we went through his phone and we looked for GPS, phone, and apps. So when it came to GPS, you asked where he was specifically on August 11th and 12th. And he was at 5 bars and 3 suspicious locations. Okay, thank you so much. I see what that mean. So he went from the bar and then it was driving, driving, your mother's house, then it went to, I don't know, this property. Then you were driving again, you went to Highland Park, then you went to Walgreens, then you went to another house. Then went to a grill, then went to another bar, but there was locations in between. You wanna show him those locations and see if there's information. You go on the first page.

'Cause every time I go to Walgreens, I'm with her.

'Cause these are the dates you asked for. And so you're saying you weren't with him during these times at these places. Do you know any of these locations?

I don't know why you'd be in Highland Park. Why would you be in Highland Park?

What's Highland Park?

Why would you be in Highland Park?

What's Highland Park?

Highland Park, Tessa.

Yeah, what day?

Tell me, no problem. Tell me why you would be at Highland Park at nearly my house. Why would you be there though?

—Byron Skinner's.

None of this don't make sense. I just told you.

Oh my God.

Okay, so these are locations that you're concerned about? Highland Park.

What's Highland Park? There's this girl at Skinner's Bar that like, she's weird. Is this true? She stares at us. Yes. She stares at us and I'm like, why do you keep going to Skinner's Bar then? Why is this girl doing this weird stuff?

Every time I go to Skinner's Bar, I'm with you.

Okay. So, all right, so we have the GPS. So it sounds like y'all have some like explaining to do and conversation to do about that. All right, so when it came to phone, we went through your phone and I found 1,950 visits to porn sites. 19 of them were explicit live chat sessions with women. 4 of those live chat sessions were still open on your phone today when we went through them.

You can't chat with them though. Cheston, are you kidding me?

They be open. I don't chat with them on the thing.

1,900. Cheston, are you kidding me?

That's the point. What do you mean?

What do you think?

1,900? I can show you right now. What are you?

What you mean? You know I watch porn all the time. She know I watch porn.

Oh my God, but the chat website, chat be 1,900 times. Once you see the chat, what you mean?

Once you see the porn, they be chat right there. Wow.

What's the chat for? Next, when it came to apps, we found one app that was open on his phone. It was Tinder. But what was— That's our Tinder. But what's interesting about this, what was interesting about this to me, which is why I'm bringing this up, is because it was you sending messages to other women inviting them to have sex with you both? That's on Tinder.

It was how, that's what I mean when I say that I'm open about some things, but like, he runs.

Good morning, how are you doing? You are so beautiful and sexy to me and my man. My name is Danielle. I'm on his page and we would love to get to know you and be friends or more if you want, which is real cool. We can have fun, hang out. You over here accusing him of cheating while you're inviting other women in.

No, no, so I am open to that type of things, but he will run off and do these secret things on the side and it just got out of hand.

No, hold on, but no, no, no, no, no. We can't accuse and track him and do these things when you're openly inviting women into your relationship.

I've always openly invited him, but he still went off and cheated on these girls that I don't know.

I'm not judging. But do you understand there's a conflict here? Yes. I understand the beginning, if you're saying you didn't tell me about this ex or this person you cheated on with in the beginning. Yes. I get that. But once y'all start to have openness and there's other women are invited in.

I've been open from the beginning though and he still does, runs off and does all this.

But then why are you upset?

Because I just wanted to be open with, I wanna be. 'Cause you wanna control him. We should be open. 'Cause you wanna control him. We should be open together. 'Cause you wanna control him. And he just wants to run off and go ahead and touch his exes.

'Cause you wanna control him. Let me give you some real advice.

Is that what it is?

Yes, it is. Am I controlling? 'Cause I've been taking, yes, you're controlling. Okay. You're controlling. Have you ever said that to her? Yeah, I told her that. Oh, so that's what you needed my validation for.

So it's mine. You're controlling. I'm controlling.

You're controlling. And let me tell you why you're controlling. If it wasn't for the fact that you were in an open relationship and that you were allowing y'all to have sex with other women, it'd be one thing. But when I hear you saying that you have a camera that he didn't know about, you're trying to control the behaviors. When you say things like, "I'm also tracking his GPS at work," when you're doing these type of things, that's controlling behavior.

Can you kiss him? No!

Don't you easily fall for that? And I understand the only reason you probably are gonna fall for that is because you getting your cake and you eating it too.

That's, I get it. Nah, nah, nah.

But the real of this is that right here, that it's not okay. It's not okay for you to have someone tracking your location. It's not okay for her to be doing these things.

Hey, but I'm changed though. I told her I changed. Last thing I did was upload too.

I hear it. You say you're changed. I changed. You gotta do the work. Okay. Because all of this with cameras, all of this in the hallway screaming at people, "Hey, just get away from my door." Oh, but that did really, oh man, that really did happen.

Hey, we used to get into it with the neighbors. She had me knocking on everybody's door. I don't know nobody though.

Again, he's doing the work to show you. So the only thing we can do is take him for face value right now. But on top of taking him for face value, you've also invited women to your relationship. Listen, I'm gonna tell you this. It sounds like you two have an agreement of what works for you in a relationship, but you don't start sabotaging what you set into motion. Why are you sabotaging it? Because that's something deeper. You want an open relationship, great. Then why are you sabotaging it?

Am I sabotaging it? Am I ruining it?

Us getting into it every day, it ain't making us better. Okay.

Why are you sabotaging it? I don't know. Scared maybe, just worried.

You don't got nothing to be scared of, I told you.

I just don't want a year later I don't got no secrets.

Did you just hear what he just said?

You ain't got nothing to be scared of.

For real. But listen, he's telling you that you don't have anything to fear. Again, there is no judgment in the way you want to run your relationship. You're grown. But if you have a man who's saying, I'm gonna be with you, stop sabotaging it and doing things that are gonna push him away. You're arguing every day about things that you don't need, should be arguing about. You should not be arguing about. Go have fun. Enjoy your life.

Should we do that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's not him. He was already doing it. You. All right.

We shouldn't be getting into it at the bar. We should be having fun, you know?

Okay. You're right. I don't know if it's me. I get it. Okay, okay. It could be me, but I mean— It not could be. It's not could be. It's you. Okay, it probably is. Okay.

Listen, both of you just continue to communicate, set boundaries, and understand that transparency is key. It's basically in the beginning, I understand how you got triggered. You wanted more transparency and he didn't give it to you. If you want, just continue to communicate, continue to have boundaries, and y'all are gonna be okay. All right?

Thank you.

But don't self-sabotage it. All right?

Thank you very much. Yeah, good luck.

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