Unlocking My Phone After Dating 2 Months? | KARAMO

Question for you. Why do you think your man is a pathological liar?

Well, first of all, he's very sketchy with his phone. He's very sketchy with his phone. Like, I feel nobody text or call him, not even 24 hours in a day. I think that's a huge problem to me.

No one?

Like, not a single soul.

Is he an introvert?

He's social.

He's social? Like— Okay, so because the only reason I asked if he's an introvert, 'cause if he's an introvert, then I can see why people, but if you saying he's social, that could be a little bit weird. Right. And you said he disappears too?

He definitely disappears and that's like, I don't like that.

Oh, where does he disappear to?

I have no idea. That's why I wanna find out.

Okay. So what happened at Christmas time?

Okay, Christmas time, he stayed the night with me Christmas Eve, got up Christmas morning and I have no family where I stay. So I was expecting to spend Christmas with him, maybe his family. You know, I took him home. Came home to get dressed. Couple hours in, started texting Karamo. Haven't heard from him at all Christmas Day up until 9 at night, 10 at night. I finally get a text message after I text him a couple paragraphs. Definitely gonna do that. And he instantly blew up on me. Like, "I don't care about nothing you talking about. Somebody put their hands on my child. I went to see about it and I just got out of the back of a police car." So I'm like, "Okay," you know, I text him back, you know, "Instead of blowing up on me, you don't talk to me." He don't communicate a lot, so, You didn't tell me that, instead you just blew up on me. So, you know, of course I text him back trying to be considerate.

But don't think I didn't catch what you said before. Before we get to you being considerate, you said, I sent paragraphs. Yeah, I do that. What you said in the paragraphs?

About him not—

You saw she slid that in there.

Right.

She's like, yeah, he didn't communicate at all. He didn't communicate.

He didn't say nothing at all. But it was a couple messages before the paragraph about like, why you not texting me back? You not answering the phone.

But what the paragraph said?

The paragraph was pretty much me like, you know, why you not texting me? And you always You always disappear, you never text me back, and I was supposed to come over there with you. I still haven't heard from you.

Okay.

It wasn't nothing like, oh, I know you with a female. It wasn't nothing like that.

Okay, I believe you. Okay, I believe you, I believe you. Because at first I was like, until you said like it wasn't those things.

Okay, got it.

Okay, got it. Understandably. But I can understand your concern. It's Christmas Day and you're trying to communicate, you're trying to figure out, you find out that he's safe, but you're still in arguments. But I can understand why he might be frustrated. But now what happened on New Year's?

So New Year's Day, we actually had plans on spending New Year's with each other. He stayed the night with me New Year's Eve. When he went home, he stayed with his mom for 3 days. And the day he came back to me, we got into an argument. He said that his mom felt some type of way about me, about him being around me. Mm, why? Because she was sick.

How long y'all been together?

We've been knowing each other for a little bit over a year, but we've probably been together for about 2 months.

1 year and 2 months. And hold on, so were these months December and January? What, what, what?

Mm-hmm, December and January.

Okay. This is now, this is like you dealing with it. Mm-hmm.

I'm 26, I wanna settle down. Mm-hmm. So I kind of decide to put some of my feelings to the side to make somebody else happy, even if it come with a lot of arguments. 'Cause everybody gonna argue and I'd rather deal with it and try to get past it. If not, then it really wasn't worth it.

Okay, got it. So what reasons does he give you for backing out of like the dinner?

It's really just, it's honestly the same reason, or the same two reasons. It's either him being with his mom or him being out and he passed out drunk.

Okay, and again, I gotta hear his side to all this, so I'm not taking sides yet. Did you ever feel like maybe there could be somebody else?

I really do. I hate to say it, but I do. I definitely think it is. Can't really pinpoint where she would come from or how would she come about, but I definitely think it is.

'Cause if y'all were together for two, y'all been together for two months, but you said you've known each other for a year. When y'all were friends, just knowing each other, did he exhibit this behavior?

Not at all.

Okay, so why do you think things have changed now?

I feel like it's me wanting to be around him more. I feel like that's a huge problem 'cause I like to be up under him. Like when I get off work, before I go to work, I wanna wake up with you. When I go to work, I want you to be back at my house before I get off, like open the door for me. And I think it's part of my clinginess maybe.

Got it. Do you think that he's lying about where he lives?

I don't think he's lying about where he live. I feel like he's lying more about maybe who he with. Maybe he's in a relationship with somebody.

Have you ever been to his house?

I have once.

Once?

Once.

In 2 months?

Yep.

So you've been to his house as many times as you've been to the Karamo Show.

Right.

You know that math ain't mathin', right?

It's not.

Okay, just wanna make sure. So what happened recently that made y'all break up?

I went to his house to pick him up. I was on my phone scrolling through Snapchat and he snatched the door open. I don't know why or what, but it made me, I wanna say paranoid, and I swiped outta Snapchat really fast. He got in the car, the first thing he said was, "You didn't have to delete it." I said, "I didn't delete nothing." And he went on, "Yes you did, yes you did." And I just kind of ignored it. When I told him like, "You know, you got the password to my phone." He was like, "Well, I don't wanna go through your phone," because he felt like I could've had time to delete it. After I made it home.

Have you given him a reason to not trust you?

Not at all. Not one time.

Why you smile when you said that?

'Cause I'm 100% sure I haven't.

If we find something in his phone today, would you leave him?

I would not. I won't. I won't.

So you just gonna sit here in my face and say you gonna be toxic?

No, I'm not gonna be toxic.

You ain't never seen this show? You just sit here in my face and gonna be like, I watch what you do and if he do something, I'm gonna stay?

No, I honestly feel like the reason why I say I would stay is because, like I said, I've been in relationships and I left men for cheating. I don't wanna leave because that's another person that's gotta learn me. That's another person that's gotta figure out how I am or how I'm feeling. So I feel like if I stay with him, I'm willing to let him get through his phase and hopefully he'll come to realize what type of female I am. He'll stop.

Where did you learn that from?

I learned that with myself 'cause every time a man cheated, I was, "Oh, I'm up and done." And then I have to make myself lose feelings for him. I had to think to myself like, maybe it'll work, you know, just deal with it for a time. 'Cause I never went through his phone and found anything, so.

[Speaker:KARAMO] So I wanna make sure because I like to like be able to mimic back what people say to me so that they can hear it. That's part of my job here is being a mirror. What you just said to me is that a relationship with someone else is more important than the relationship with yourself. It hits different when you hear that out loud, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. 'Cause I understand the frustration. It's something that is part of dating of like wanting to find somebody and the frustration of being like, well, I have to have somebody new to learn me. But to sit here and say that I'm actively going to put myself last. That's a self-worth and self-esteem issue. And I know we're here to get to the core of this relationship, but I need you to hear that and process that and receive that. And this is not about him because I don't know what he's done. I've never heard his side. But what I'm hearing here is a lot about who you are as a woman and how I could try to maybe support you and give you just a little bit of knowledge. Well, listen everyone, I think it's time we hear Ron's side of the story. So welcome Ron to the show. Hey, Ron.

How you doing, Karamo?

Good, how you doing?

I'm doing good.

Nice to meet you, man.

Nice to meet you too.

These pants are dope.

Thank you.

So how you feeling about everything that just said?

Not good at all.

Okay. Why?

The whole situation, I feel like it's a lie.

Okay.

About the phone, the hiding, the sneaky situation. When we first got into a relationship, I told her, you're more than welcome to put your face on my phone to have it unlocked. All this is just, it's making me seem like I'm the bad guy when it's not. I don't have time to deal with other women. I'm dealing with my mother, she's sick. So if it's a problem with me making time for you and my mother, then maybe it's not meant for us to be there. Every time I have any free time, I got people that's calling me, hey, let's go to the studio, let's go do this, let's go do that. I understand it be late, 12, 1 o'clock, but I have to make sure my mother is straight first. I moved my mother with me because she just got outta the hospital, so I'm watching over her myself. I have 2 sisters and a brother that passed away. I'm trying to make my mom happy, including with her. So it's a mix-up of time. There's multiple times I done left the house tonight when my mother is hurting because it's long text messages that she's sending me. About that. So I'm like, okay, she's a good woman, but my mom's gonna come first.

Of course. So have you been lying to her about your whereabouts? Because that's not true. Not at all. No lying about it?

Not at all.

Why have I only been to your house once?

You don't ask to come in. You more than welcome to come in. The first time you asked me to come in, when the time you came in, did I deny it or not?

You didn't, but that was—

I told you you can come straight in, right?

Right.

And I told you before multiple times, a closed mouth, I don't know what, I can't read minds.

So the day I asked to come over for Christmas.

What happened? The day I asked you to have him come for Christmas because I found out that someone put their hands on my child. So? So I'm gonna handle that business first. I can't communicate and text you back if I'm in the back of a cop car and they have my phone. How can I text you back? But did I not tell you what was going on?

But you instantly blew up instead of telling me what happened.

'Cause if I get my phone back and I'm reading so many text messages, it's accusing me of doing something, saying this and saying that. I'm saying not, and I get out of a situation that has something to do with my only child, of course I'm gonna be pissed off. And if you understand the situation after I told you, you kept going on about this shit for what reason?

Well, listen, I think it's time to unlock these phones to get to the truth of this relationship. First, we're gonna unlock Ron. First, Ron, we're gonna unlock your phone and get your results. Are you ready for this?

Go ahead.

Okay. Janeshia, you want to know if Ron has any explicit texts on his phone. Ron says he does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his texts and found that Ron is not telling the truth. He has 99 texts with 3 different females in January. In January? January.

About?

January. They're explicit.

January.

Janeshia, you wanna know if Ron has any unknown GPS location on his phone. Ron says he does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his GPS and found that Ron is not telling the truth. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his GPS and found that he had 5 different addresses deleted from his Uber app.

Everyone you tell me is only 2 same places.

So where I been at then?

It's supposed to be either the hospital, at your house. So where else you be?

You tell me, that's why I know.

Oh man, I don't know what you do.

Okay.

I don't know.

We also want to know, Janeshia want to know if Ron has been corresponding with any female in apps on his phone. Ron says he is not. My Life to Phone investigators searched his apps and found that he's actually telling the truth on that. We searched his apps and found that he had zero messages with any females. However, Ron claimed to Jonisha and producers that he does not have Snapchat, and our investigators found him active on Snapchat as of yesterday.

You lie.

I know you active.

As of yesterday on Snapchat?

Yeah.

Yes.

It was a video.

Okay. But I will tell you this, he was only receiving messages from this female from yesterday and not responding. Never. I got it. But okay, Ron, you also wanted us to unlock Janisha's phone. Let's unlock your phone now. Ron, you want to know if Janisha has any texts on her phone with other men. Janisha says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her texts and found, so Janisha is telling the truth.

I tell you, I tell you that all the time.

And you just told me a whole nother lie last night.

Okay.

All right, so Ron wants to know if Janeshia has any dating apps on her phone. Janeshia says she does not. Mindlocked the Phone investigators searched her apps and found that Janeshia is not telling the truth. Mindlocked the Phone investigators searched her apps and found that she was active on Fling on December 26th, the day after Christmas.

The day she told me she deleted it. Well, not, no, she told me she deleted it way before that, before we even got together.

Okay. Ron, you wanna know if Janeshia has any explicit photos on her phone. Janeshia says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched through her photos and found that she is not telling the truth. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her photos and found that she had 3 photos on her phone It was unclear, these are photos of her naked and it's unclear who she sent them to. We couldn't find out.

I don't got 'em. I definitely don't got 'em. Not one.

Oh, so she's never sent you explicit photos? Never.

I really, honestly, I take photos for myself. If it's pictures, I just—

These are the photos that we found of her on her phone.

Can I see these?

You can. They're here for you.

No, don't give them to me.

But you seen them?

No, I did not see them. You not finna tell me nothing I seen just like you always do.

I never seen pictures of you.

There's no point seeing them now. I should've got them.

Okay, you right.

If you taking pictures, who take pictures just for the—

I just like to see myself. I mean, I like to see myself. I really do.

That just don't sound believable.

This is my thing. It sounds like you're going through a lot right now. Correct. It sounds like dealing with your family and also trying to figure out how to manage your life has been a lot. And for it to be 2 months whether y'all knew each other for a year beforehand or however long, for y'all to be in a committed relationship for 2 months and y'all have to be doing all of this where you have to unlock, put her face on your phone to unlock your phone, where you have to be checking, where you're getting long texts, where you're wondering where he's at in locations, that's just way too much. Way too much. And let me be very real, just because you wanna settle down doesn't mean you're supposed to settle. And it seems right now like y'all are settling. It's like y'all are settling. And because I don't know if you think this is a healthy relationship, but if this is what you're settling for, I gotta be the one to tell you that you're settling for unhealthy. It's 2 months in. What do you think's gonna happen 4 months in, 6 months in when emotions get deeper and deeper?

Worse and worse it's gonna get.

Do you wanna be putting up with this while you're dealing with the stress of your mother?

A lot of people don't know I cry every night.

I believe it.

I ain't had my father.

Yeah.

My pop been locked up since I was 4. He got home last November, and I told her this, 26 years later not seeing my pop.

Yeah.

So I told her that. It's like it didn't matter. It was still the accusations and all of this stuff. I'm steady trying to balance with so much stuff and steady trying to balance with her, but I'm steady getting accused of stuff that, yeah.

I'm sorry for that. Thank you first of all for sharing. I'm sorry. You gotta make a choice because she said she gonna stay in this. But sometimes for us we have to realize one less thing on that plate, it's gonna be one less thing that's gonna allow me to start to process all the stuff that's going through. So my advice to you is since we already know she's not gonna make that choice, You gotta do what you gotta do for yourself. You have to heal your heart before you give your heart away. So my question to you is, is do you wanna stay in this relationship?

If I don't continue, if I can't get the support that I need as far as I can and keep getting accused, no.

I don't think things will change because y'all are already in a cycle in 2 months. So remember what you said right here and remember what you deserve and where you need to be in your relationship, okay? And I wish you the best of luck. If you need any help talking about any of those things, I'm here if you need to talk, okay? Thank you.

I wish y'all both the best of luck, all right?

It's important. Everyone stay with us, friends. We'll be right back with more.