We JUST Had A Baby, Who Are You Texting? | KARAMO

Karamo mediates between Tyrese and Rodney, a new parents couple in crisis. Rodney has messaged over 50 women and added 34 to Snapchat; he admits to texting other women but denies explicit photos or physical affairs. Tyrese feels betrayed as they navigate what monogamy means to them.
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So tell me, I heard you told my producers that you want me to know that your man was MVP the first year of y'all dating.
When he and I first met, like, he was the best man a woman could ask for. Like, I just feel like as time goes on, he still does, but deep down inside, I wonder if it's lies. Like, are you just telling me I'm pretty because you have a guilty conscience? Are you just telling me I'm beautiful because you feel bad for what you're doing? I don't know, I just, like 51 females later, like literally over 51 females I've caught him texting.
Really?
51 females?
That I know of.
Really?
And what is he saying in these text messages?
It varies. The last time I caught him texting somebody was like 4 or 5 weeks ago, right after the baby was born. Something, I don't know what it was, 'cause like, I live off of energy. And something was just like, "Taisha, check his phone." And I'm like, "All right, bet." 'Cause I'm a Gemini, it's two of us in my head. You know what I mean? So Taisha was like, "Check his phone." And I was like, "Okay girl, I got you." So check the phone and then like, you know, Isha, that's my alter ego, she was like, "You know." There's three of y'all in there. Yeah, it's crazy.
Got it.
Yeah. So Isha was like, "You know, don't react." Tyrese was like, nah, fuck that.
Yes, okay.
You know what I mean? Because I saw that he tried to erase, I don't know if he set the mood to try to erase automatically, 'cause you know how Snapchat is for hoes, that's what they do. So they automatically delete. And then I waited till he walked in the room and I looked at him and I put the phone down while the message was open to show him I seen what you doing. And instantly he's like, oh, I'm sorry, I don't believe you. And it was an OnlyFans drawing, not even cute, real fat drawing. When I say this man, like Rodney has, he's my best friend. Like this is my rib, this is my rider. Like we've been homeless together. We were pregnant with our first daughter, homeless with nothing. Like we came a long way. We just started our business. Like everything is finally—
Congratulations.
Thank you. Like, you know, like.
So when did things start going south originally? 'Cause how long y'all been together?
Well, it kind of really, if you want it, 5 years.
5 years.
If you wanna get technical, when I first got with Rodney, I didn't know he was in a little situationship. And I told him like, you know, before we do anything, you gotta wife me. And he was like, all right, bet. You know what I mean? That's pretty much how it was. And like, you know, like he cut her off, like, and we moved together from written.
So when was the first time you noticed something could be up? That where it felt like things got broken, the trust got broken?
About a month and a half to 2 months after.
After y'all started dating? Mm-hmm. So from beginning? Mm-hmm. Okay then.
But I fell in love with him.
So he was loving you and you felt supported, but you also had doubts.
Right.
And is it because he was in a relationship?
Whew.
Here you go, love.
Nah, I don't wanna mess my makeup up.
You do look beautiful.
Yeah, it's just been real. I really fell in love with this man.
But I'm confused because I understand the MVP and you getting support But why would you stay with somebody if the trust has been broken since month 2?
Because I wanted to prove him wrong.
You wanted to prove him wrong?
I wanted to prove to him that there are women out here that can love you properly and not throw things in your face, not make you feel less of a man. He was already broken when I met him. So my job was to restore him as a queen. Like, how do you go from, I wanna show this woman I'm the real MVP, I'm her everything, to, mm, she ain't going nowhere, so I'm gonna do what the fuck I wanna do.
Why would he get that perception that you're not going anywhere? Are you not going anywhere?
I don't know. I can't say, I'm gonna be honest with you. I wanna like, if I find out something today through that phone, we go.
But so if you find something, will you leave?
More than likely. If I find out he's talking to the one person that just keeps popping the fuck up, we're gonna have a massive problem.
Well, you wanted to unlock Rodney's phone and you told my investigators that you wanted to know if Rodney had been texting with other women, if Rodney has been sending any explicit photos to any other women. And if Rodney has been messaging women on Snapchat.
Mm-hmm.
Okay. Those are the things you wanna know. Well, listen, I think it's time to see what Rodney has to say about all this. So everyone please welcome Rodney to the show. Hey Rodney, thank you for being here. Oh, nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you too. Yeah.
Hi, Daddy.
Hey, baby.
So what do you feel after just hearing that?
I kind of knew that she was feeling this way already. I've done a lot of things to make her feel that way, but—
What are those things?
Texting other females, giving them the time of day, just things that I wasn't supposed to. So I kind of understand how she feels, but I'm not a bad person at the end of the day. I'm still a good— You know, those types of things.
Have you ever physically cheated?
Hmm?
Have you ever physically cheated?
No.
Okay, so it's all just communication through the phone?
Communication, right.
Okay then. And why did you feel like you need to seek out communication through the phone?
I mean, like certain times I feel like she'll be pushing me away. Like, well, when we argue, when we good, we're good. But when we argue, it gets bad. So it's like.
I'm gonna ask you that question again, but this time I want you to answer without involving her as your excuse.
Okay.
So why do you feel like you need to communicate with other women. It's because that's a self-choice. It's not because of an action that she did. It's your own choice.
Right.
Right.
I mean, that is correct. You are right.
What does it feel, what do you feel like you're missing in the moment that you feel like I need to reach out?
Just, you know, normal conversation at the time. Like, you know, like without the back and forth or just the arguing or, you know, if I can't get a word out, you know, I feel a certain type of way that I can't speak or she'll feel like she can't get a word out so she can't speak and it's just like back and forth.
I understand. Okay, do you believe that he's never physically cheated?
Yeah.
You do believe that, okay, good.
But I got something to say. I just feel like it's a crock of shit because we be on good terms and I catch him texting bitches.
You don't gotta curse.
Like we be cool, we be on great terms, we be in a great place and Is that true? I'll randomly pick up his phone and he's looking, he's on a whole nother female Facebook going through her pictures.
That's not all the time though.
It don't matter. It doesn't see, but this is the problem that we have is always a validation on why you do what you do. Do I cheat? Do I text? I don't. I show him that when we beefing, that's when I should be more loyal to you than when we're not. It shouldn't be a reason why you run to the next female because I made you upset. Get over it. Mm-hmm.
I mean, there's times where she just pushed me away and it felt like I can't talk to her.
What were your past relationships like?
Like, my past relationships was nothing close to this one. Like, she's a phenomenal woman. It was like chaos. It was hectic. It was arguments nonstop. You know, the disrespect, you know, all type of stuff.
That sounds similar to this.
Yeah, I mean—
'Cause you just said that the relationship is different.
Yeah, it was—
It sounds like there's chaos here.
I see it, but I'm not the one causing it to him. See, usually he's used to women, like, we just got into it like a week ago, and he's like, we're sitting there and he brings up this girl that broke his heart when he was like 16. Bro, you're 27. Get over it, bro. Like, I got my heart broken when I was 15 too. That's what happens, that's life. But you're not gonna sit here and tell me because of something that happened when you was 16 is the reason why you keep putting me in the caliber of Putting other females into play. There's even times where he has me second guessing myself. Like, oh no, it's you. You're the reason why. You're the reason why I'm talking. No, no, no, because you don't listen. And I'll be listening. It's like everything that he'll do, he'll put it on me as if I'm the one doing it. And it's like, I feel like I've been here before. It's narcissistic. And it's just like, he's not a bad person. Like when I say this man is phenomenal, like I want to marry you. I want to be your wife. I don't want to keep playing this game.
I think it's time to get to the truth. You know, we came here to unlock your phone, Rodney, and so I think it's time to unlock your phone. I mean, 'cause the thing that you wanted to know is, is he talking to anybody? Is there anything in these messages, the DMs, the Snapchat? This is questions that you want to know. So I think it's time to unlock your phone. Taese, you want to know if Rodney has been texting any other women. Rodney says he has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched through his texts and found that Rodney is telling the truth. [APPLAUSE] Tyrese, you wanna know if Rodney has been sending any explicit photos to any other women. Rodney says he has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his photos and found that Rodney is telling the truth. [APPLAUSE] Tyrese, you wanna know if Rodney has been messaging women on Snapchat. Rodney says he has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his apps and found that Rodney is not telling the truth. Oh! My unlock the phone investigator searched his apps and found that Rodney had 34 women added on Snapchat that I guess you're trying to communicate with? You're wanting to communicate with? What's going on there?
I have accepted friend requests on Snapchat. I didn't, besides the one that she knows about, I didn't reach out to any other females.
No communication, okay.
I am guilty for accepting, but I—
What do you even need Snapchat for?
It's really weird.
That's a very valid question. Why are you leaving that door open?
Right.
I have Snapchat for filters. I don't have no friends or nobody I talk to on there. I just use the filters. Why do you have to Snapchat? I just mean—
I mean, I could, you know, close that door if we could both do that, you know?
I'm gonna ask you a question. And this, I want you to please answer this as honestly as possible. Do you want monogamy?
No, I don't want a monogamy. I can't deal with—
You know what monogamy mean?
I mean like—
Babe, not polygamy, monogamy.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Boy, hold up.
I'm just thinking off.
But no, even if he didn't want it, it's just gonna be uncomfortable.
No, you gotta explain.
Okay. Do you want to be in a monogamous relationship?
Yeah, yeah. Not polygamous, we not sharing around here.
Okay.
Do you wanna be with me and only me till the day you die?
Right. If your woman said that she would be okay with you being with other women, would you accept that offer?
You know I'd be lying.
No, I wouldn't accept that offer.
So the thing is, I'm gonna tell you what you just did right here because I was trying to help you to figure out to get some ground level to what, but what happened of you cutting him off and not letting him give an honest— Sorry. No. Unfortunately, you did it for yourself because I'm not in the relationship. What I want you to do is hear his truth. But what happened is you cut him off before telling him what he better not do. Because the minute he's about to say, you said, no, you better not. You better not. You better not because now you won't know if there's always a desire. Because there's something going on here and I'm gonna be real with you. There's something going on here. I'm gonna start with you first. There's something going on here of why you are keeping that door open. Why are you engaging with other women? You clearly have a woman here who's been faithful to you, who loves you, who's supporting with you. And let me tell you something, this girl has rocked with you already through a lot. I'm not saying she about to rock with you through infidelity. What I'm saying with you is that she's willing to have a conversation, otherwise she wouldn't be on this couch. So when you have a partner who's at least willing to have a conversation, go ahead and use that in, okay? But you also have to do the work to not shut it down. Because if you really want answers, you gotta shut up and get the answers. But there's something that you said that hit me, and this is the most important thing that I need you to hear. You said when he was, he's your VIP, and when you first got together, you wanted to prove to Rodney that he was wrong about all the women, that there could be a woman that treated him great, that would treat him with respect, that would show him what it's like. You said that's what you wanted to prove to him. I gotta be honest with you, you didn't act this way to prove it to him. You were doing that to prove it to yourself. I know. And so you hope that by modeling to him, look, I'm gonna be with you, I'm gonna be with you, that listen to that.
He'll do the same.
That he'll do the same.
He can be honest and I thank you for, see, like I told him, I wanted to come to you because you're not biased. You're not gonna sit here and be like, oh, Rodney, Rodney, Rodney, Rodney, Rodney. No, you're gonna be like, nah, Tyrese, you too, lemme get up in you. Hold up though, 'cause you need to shut up. Come on, like let him talk. You know what I mean? 'Cause I talk a lot. I'm a Gemini. We can't shut the hell up.
The three of y'all, I heard it. I heard it. I heard it. Listen, I do wish y'all the best of luck, but I do wish y'all more transparency in y'all communication. Seriously. All right, everyone. Thank you for being with us. Make sure to come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking and we can keep growing. I love you all.
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