We're Engaged, But You're Still Married!? | KARAMO

We was gonna get married at the courthouse. So that weekend before then, he done took me to the mall and bought me a nice pretty dress and everything. And so when I called, 'cause we were running a little late, I told 'em our name and everything. Then they tell me that it's showing up in the computer that he's still, he's married to someone in Gwinnett County.

And what was his response?

And so I was like, I thought you got a divorce. 'Cause he had told me he got a divorce. And he was like, I did get a divorce. My dad, he gave me the money to get the divorce. I sent it to her and I trusted her to do the right thing. But like I told him, I was like, you childish because you supposed to make sure that you got that divorce.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And especially when taking me to the mall to get the dress and everything.

And we at the courthouse now.

You went through all this knowing you still married.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That really hurt me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do believe that that trust just went down. Trust went out the door.

Yeah.

I can understand that because there is something about like, if I'm serious about you, I'm gonna do my due diligence. I'm gonna go in, I'm gonna check and make sure that the day that I'm sharing with you is handled properly and with care.

Exactly.

So I understand that.

And we dated like a year and a half before. I mean, we dated like a year and a half and he left me for another girl.

Oh.

And he went and had a baby with her.

Oh.

And before their baby get to be like a couple of months old or whatever, he was back with me.

Yeah, okay, so I see now. So there's two things that trigger the trust in the relationship.

I understand that.

Exactly. And how long have you and Sean been together exactly?

12 years.

And when did you first suspect that he was cheating on you?

Two months after we got back together.

Two months, uh-huh.

I don't have proof that he was cheating, but it was just a coincidence. Like every night he would leave and be like, he wanted to go to Taco Bell, get some kind of cheesecake or whatever. Every night around like 10 o'clock. And so when they went up there, I noticed Taco Bell closed at 10.

Oh.

So I'm like, why are you going there? And then this lady up the street told me that she saw him in the car with that same girl. So he kept telling me he don't know this girl, he don't know this girl. And Lord have mercy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But anyway, I end up pregnant by him. Ended up pregnant. And he been in and out of prison ever since we been together. But anyway, in these times, I really feel like he was still messing with this girl. One day I was on Facebook and like her profile picture came across there and she had a guy behind her, but she covered his face.

Yeah.

But I know that was him. I know that was him.

Got it.

'Cause I know my man and So he was in prison at the time, so I seen him in the picture. And he was like, "That ain't me, that ain't me. I don't even know that girl." But what made me feel like it's him because she covered his face and then he got big tattoos on his arm and she covered that part.

Got it.

And she covered that part. And I know how he lay in the bed.

Got it. Is that the photo you sent me?

Yeah.

I mean, when you laying next to somebody every night, you know how they lay, so. And this the photo you sent?

Yeah. Okay. That's exactly it. That's exactly it.

And they covered it with all these emojis.

Yeah, she did that. Yeah. Look at that, identical. And I just took that picture 3 weeks ago. And I don't care what nobody say.

I mean, of course you know your man better than any of us know your man, but it is suspicious that—

He love that gray tank top too.

He love that tank top?

Yeah, he love gray tank tops. You don't know many people don't wear gray tank tops. They have white, beige.

Well, I do think it's suspicious. I will say this, it's suspicious that there's all those emojis. But everyone at home, sorry, I'm not allowed to show you this photo, but it does look a little suspicious to us here in the audience. So how have things been with you and Sean since he got a new job?

It's been rough 'cause he already haven't been in me and the baby life since we've been back together. And then he get outta prison and then he go get a job being a truck driver on the road. We barely even see him then, he be gone months. At the time, it ain't been the same.

Yeah.

Now, a lot of sex life is, I won't have one.

You don't have a sex life?

Not to me.

Got it, yeah. And you're a young woman to not have, 'cause what you're describing to me is you're saying I don't have stability, I don't have a sex life.

Right.

What did you find on his clothes?

Okay, it was last year sometime. And he came home one night after he'd been on the road. He went straight to the bathroom, took a shower. And so I just threw the clothes out the way and his underwear just came outta, flew outta there and it had shit. I know that's what it was. Shit all over. And then I was like, I called him in the room. I was like, what did you see? He said mustard.

Mustard.

Mustard. Really?

On his underwear.

Yeah. He would've been better off saying mayo.

Yeah, okay, but—

And then he say he ate a hot dog the night before. Now when it would've been dried up or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm not no fool. I'm not no child.

So the mother of his other child, what has she been telling people?

That she pregnant by him.

That she pregnant by him?

Yeah.

Again? How recently is this?

About 6 months ago.

6 months ago?

Yeah, the girl he left me for.

That he had the first baby with?

Right. She, yeah.

So Sean is here today to share his side of the story. So everyone please welcome Sean to the show. Hey Sean, how you doing? Hi, how you doing? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. So how do you feel about what was just said? None of it's true. None of it? None of it. Okay. By cheating and all that, none of it is true. So you didn't have another child outta wedlock with some woman? I had a child, yes. Okay. So that part was true? Yeah, that part was true. Okay then. Were you married when you all got married? It was supposed to have been a divorce. Yes. But at that time, if I would've known it wasn't, we would've never got married.

You knew you wanted a divorce.

No.

Stop telling that lie.

Okay. I had sent the money up there to Atlanta.

You was supposed to make sure she did the right thing too.

She said she was gonna do the right thing and do what she had to do.

Okay.

So what's going on with the girl from Taco Bell? Nothing. Nothing at all? I don't even know the girl. Okay then. And then this picture that we sent, is it of you? How you feel about that picture? I have never been with another woman, Karamo. Never. Never? Never. Never at all? Never at all. You can unlock my phone, everything. You won't see nothing in there.

Okay then. Wow. Okay, you like this whole relationship, you don't touch me? We go long months without, months.

You cannot.

Without having sex.

If you getting accused of cheating all the time, you ain't gonna be in the mood.

Well, you sure make me feel that way. You ain't gotta worry about me saying nothing if you would treat me like a woman, Pooh B. T. I can come home. That's the God honest truth.

If you constantly feel like you cheated all the time, constantly, 24 hours a day.

No, it's not, Lord, all the time. You is not gonna be in the mood. Show him a quick bit now. Nothing's going on. If you didn't make me feel that way, Lord, no.

I'm gonna tell you what the situation is, Karamo. Nothing is going on. I have never conversated with another woman. None of that. Well, that's not technically true because you do have a child from another woman.

Exactly. And then he swear he hate her so bad, but he be messaging her on Facebook and all that.

Have you heard of the fact that she's telling people that she's having another child by you?

Yeah, he know. Yeah, yeah.

So you know that she's saying that? So what's the answer? And I confronted her too. Okay, what is it? On the phone.

Yeah, you got that girl's fear. That girl fear you. She know what to say. She know what to say. 'Cause I feel like that lady would've never said that. She might not be pregnant, but she was letting me know he was coming over there.

I've never been over there.

She wanted me to know that he been creeping over there.

That's the only time I have ever been over there. Yeah, whatever.

I'm gonna tell you, Karamo. Okay, the baby, right? Mm-hmm. I would never keep him from his child. Lord knows I wouldn't. But the little girl badly mess with him. Okay, ever since the baby birthday party last year, we go to the party, right? Oh, he out there snapping pictures of her mama.

No, she was—

Yes, you do, tell the truth.

She was right beside her momma.

I would never disrespect you like this.

She was right beside her momma, so I was taking pictures of her.

Okay, he could've been taking pictures of that little girl, right? By herself. He taking pictures, got a picture full of, phone full of pictures of her mama.

Only her momma?

I feel like that's disrespectful.

Only her momma?

And the baby, yeah, and her momma. And the baby momma's momma. That ain't boy stuff.

Okay, okay. They right beside you, she right beside you.

Well, that one right.

At the moment she was.

Well, what you want with that girl in your phone for one?

I don't want her in my phone.

Boy.

I was just taking a picture of my shoes. I don't know, but you was taking it like you was a photographer. Oh, okay. So why did you tell Gina there was mustard in your underwear? 'Cause at the time when I was on the bed of my truck, I was eating mayo and mustard that night.

You ain't say nothing about no mayo. This man ain't say nothing about no mayo now. Lord have mercy. Man, you a mess, bro.

Yes, it was.

Oh, you do it a lot.

I have never messed with another woman.

You are a liar.

Never.

You a liar.

Never.

You can't make that up.

I'm the one that called the show to get this.

Yeah, but when it's too late.

In the moment where your woman is telling you, I feel insecure about a situation, why wouldn't you just say, listen, there's no other woman for me. I only wanna look at you. I done told her that. I done told her that. Okay, yeah. He asked me that.

I don't care what he said.

Hundreds of times. I done told her that hundreds of times.

I don't care what he say. I don't care what he say. 'Cause he acts totally different. It ain't matching up.

No, no, no.

He acts totally different. This man been leaving me off and on ever since we been together. If you really love somebody, you will sacrifice for them. He left me while I was pregnant. He come back home and he went again.

Did you leave her while she was pregnant?

And then he come back home and down here on the road. I'm tired, I'm tired, I'm drained, I'm emotionally, spiritually, all of the above, I'm tired, I'm really tired, and he know that. That's why he brought me to this show, 'cause he know I'm through with him. I am, I'm through. Kinda gave him, man, so many chances, he still hurt me.

I don't try to hurt you at all.

That ain't right, you might not try to, but you do.

I do not hurt you at all, I don't try to hurt you.

Oh, come on, man, you a straight manipulator. How old is the child you have together?

How old is the child you have together?

He's 5.

5 years old, okay then. Are you a good father?

Yeah.

Great.

Sorta. Sorta.

Okay, what do you mean, tell me.

Sorta, 'cause he don't need to spend time with his other children, for one. And then I be telling him, I haven't been without my baby for 5 years. He never gave me a break or anything. He don't never say, "Huh, baby, go get your nails done," or nothing. I keep telling this man, "I need a break, I need a break." He don't even give me one. He the father, he supposed to get help for me. When I come home, when I do come home— No, no, you don't, you gone. I tell you all this at home, even before you even call this show or anything. You know we been going at it this last past year. 'Cause I been telling you I want you out my life, man. 'Cause you done drained the hell out of me. Oh, I'm sorry.

No, you fine.

But he had a— And I feel like he called your show because that phone he got, he ain't had it but a couple months. But I wanna know what happened 17, 18, 19, and 20. And he know y'all don't have access to that.

Yeah.

Nothing. Nothing at all. I ain't no fool.

Well, since you brought up the phone, it is time to unlock the phone, so Gina. Gina, you told our Unlock the Phone investigators that you want to know if Shawn was using any dating apps. If he's sexting members of your family and if he's talking to any other women. Sean, we unlocked your phone. All right, so Dena, you wanna know if Sean is using any dating apps. Sean says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his apps and found that Sean is telling the truth. We didn't find any dating apps. Dena, you wanna know if Sean has been sexting any members of her family. Sean says he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his texts and found that he is telling the truth. We didn't find any explicit message between you and the family members.

Like I said, that's all.

Deena, you wanna know if Sean has been communicating with any other women. Sean says he's not. And my unlock the phone investigator searched his DMs and found he is telling the truth. I told you.

I told you.

But hold on, let me say this. Hold on.

For years.

Let me stress this.

Like I said, me and him, we've been having this for a whole 2 months.

So what our investigator did also share with me is that this is a brand new phone.

Yeah, exactly.

That was new for a few months.

Exactly.

Exactly. I will say this, and I'm not here to accuse you. I'm not here to accuse you.

I know you've noticed I have not tried to accuse you.

I'm not trying to accuse you because I don't want to accuse you just based on what she's saying. And what we have found, nothing. So let's be honest about that. But if there's been a history of years that she's expressing, you've been together 12 years, and you have a brand new phone. It doesn't give us much to be able to search, but it also doesn't create a foundation of saying, well look, in the past years that you were in question, here's the truth. We don't have access to that.

He knew that.

You also want us to unlock her phone because you wanna know if Dina was communicating with other men. Dina, we unlocked your phone. Actually, we did not because you refused to unlock your phone.

Because I feel like I ain't gotta prove nothing to him. 'Cause I tell him the truth about everything. I am 100 with this man. Only thing I ever asked for him is just to treat me like a woman should be treated. And we got kids together.

That's the most important thing.

And you can't even be the man of the house though.

Yeah, I can. Yes, I can. If you wanna know my opinion since you called the show, the phone is new but this relationship is old and it's time for it to end. And that is the truth. That is the truth. There's nothing here to hold onto. You all would have an opportunity to live happier and healthier lives apart.

Yeah, apart.

And the thing with somebody Sometimes in unhealthy relationships when someone else is your anchor, you forget that anchor also pulls people down. And this relationship is doing nothing but pulling you all down, even though you feel like she's the one that's holding you down. No, I don't feel like that. Well, when I say holding you down, I don't mean like pushing you down, but being the one that's saying, okay, I'm here, I'm gonna still keep up with you, I'm gonna still put up with things, I'm gonna still be there. But she's telling you she's exhausted. So my question is, is that why? You're not happy. You're not happy. And you have an opportunity to be happy. You have an opportunity to heal, to be with someone who's gonna wanna talk to you, who's gonna wanna have sex with you, who y'all are going to wanna engage in these things. Y'all are both in your 40s. We're still young. You're not old. You get an opportunity to still live. This is not what it has to be. You don't have to live the next 40 years unhappy, sad, arguing, crying. Stop holding on. You gotta be real with yourself because she is being real with you. Don't hold on anymore. I wish both of y'all the best of luck and I will remind you, you deserve happiness.

Seriously.

Thank you for calling the show and I hope this resonates with you because if you keep holding onto this, all you gonna do is keep holding onto something that's unhealthy and tearing yourself down. Time to build yourself up, all right? And give her an opportunity to build herself up, all right? I wish y'all the best of luck.

Good luck.

Good luck. All right.