In this episode of the Co‑Parenting Unlocked series, host Karamo and his ex‑partner Stephanie play a rapid‑fire “You or Me” game to discover which of them their son Jason (and any other children) would turn to for a wide range of life situations. A moderator (Speaker C) prompts a series of prompts—dating advice, financial advice, illness, secrets, manipulation, long car rides, break‑ups, sexual identity, forgiveness after a major mistake, and even an arrest. Karamo and Stephanie answer candidly, often humorously, revealing their parenting styles: Karamo positions himself as the pragmatic, “real‑talk” dad for dating, money, and legal emergencies; Stephanie is the nurturing, health‑focused mom for sickness and emotional support. The conversation also includes a vivid anecdote where Karamo called his son’s girlfriend to tell her to break up with Jason, illustrating his hands‑on, no‑nonsense approach. Throughout, both parents acknowledge each other’s influence, admit to being manipulated by the kids, and stress the importance of open communication and mutual support. The episode ends with a light‑hearted reflection on the insights gained about their children’s preferences and the co‑parenting dynamic.
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If I tell my mom, this is going to get to you eventually because she can't ever keep a secret. And then you just are such an open book that you're going to tell the whole family. Hey friends, it's me, Karamo, and welcome to another episode of Co-Parenting Unlocked. I'm here with my son's mother, Stephanie, and we're going to play a little game right now called You or Me.
OK. Me or you?
You or me? So we got these signs, and we're going to play a game like, when it comes to our kids, who do we think they'd come to, me or you? OK. Oh, yeah. Let's see.
Who do your kids come to for dating advice?
For dating advice, I'd say me.
I'm going to say Karamo too.
You think?
Yeah.
They come to you? Because Jason calls me a lot for dating advice. Does he call you a lot?
Who is he dating when he got a girlfriend?
Cut. I'm talking about—
But he know if I have another girlfriend.
Huh?
He has another girlfriend?
No. If that boy ever had another girlfriend, I would cuss him out. I'm sorry, y'all.
I almost got fainted.
Hold on. Hold on. So this is funny. Hold on. We never talked about this. So you— No, Stephanie. Stephanie, you know. So this is— hold on. Let me tell y'all something real quick. When it comes to parenting, like, the advice I give on my show, I really give. So like, I actually called our son's girlfriend and told her— told her to leave our son.
He did.
Because he was on some BS. He wasn't going to work. I was like— I told him. I said, hey, by the way, since you don't want to get your life together, you're not going to drag another woman down. Yeah. And I called her while he was sitting next to her and said, hey, clearly my son is on BS. So he's not trying to work. He's not trying to add. He's not growing. So until he grows, you need to find somebody else. So I can't tell you to leave, but you should for your own well-being. And he was pissed for like 3 weeks.
Like, I can't believe you told him to go for a breakup.
But guess what? He got it together.
He sure did. He did right after that, Karamo. Like, what?
He got together quickly. So yeah, he come to me for dating advice because he know I'm going to keep it real with him.
Okay, so then that's why I say you.
You. Yeah. Dad.
Dad. Who do your kids come to for financial advice?
Dad. Dad. They got a dad for that.
Let me get one. Let me get one.
They come to me for money advice. They know I'm not— I don't play about my money. I don't play about a coin. In order. In order.
Baby.
Who do your kids call when they're sick?
Oh, they call you. They call mom when she's that sick. Because, like, hold on. Jason was just sick. We just called our son right now. And he was sick. And she was like, oh, baby, you need fluids. I was like, you up to something.
Because I was like, yeah.
I was like, you got work today? Because I was just like, immediately my mind was like, how yesterday you was outside and you was having fun. Because he was outside skateboarding yesterday. And now all of a sudden you sick?
Yeah.
But you went to Shade— you go to Shade Nurture.
I do. I do.
You do. What'd you do?
Lay right here. Lay on Mommy. It's OK. Lay right there.
Who do your kids trust more with keeping a secret?
Oh my gosh. Are we showing the same name?
No!
But you know what?
Hold on, you know what? Hold on. Let's find this out. Let's find out.
Let's find out.
Let's find out.
Let's find out.
Hold on. Let's find out. This is going to be good. Because I say it's me, and you say it's you. OK, hold on. Let me just call Jason real quick, and we're going to find out. All right, all right. I'm gonna call Jason right now on speakerphone. Let's see. Hey, hello? Hey, Prince. Hey. You're here with your mother and I, and I got a question for you. When it comes to which one of us you trust to tell a secret to, which one of us is it? Is it your mom or me? Just be honest. Who do you believe would keep your secret? Yeah, no, that's a funny question because I can't trust both of you. I think— You said you can't trust neither of us? Yeah, if I tell my mom, this is going to get to you eventually because she can't ever keep a secret. And then you just are such an open book that you're going to tell the whole family.
So we both lose.
All right. Well, that's why we couldn't figure it out. OK. OK, well, Prince, well, we love you. Dang. Love you too. OK, love you, bye. I love it.
I love it. I'll take it. I will take it.
Me too. We got no secrets over here. Hello. OK? Keep it out in the open. We're not playing them games. You telling me we about to talk about it.
OK.
Listen.
I can keep a secret depending on how serious it is. And if it's serious, I can tell you.
And it needs to be said.
Ain't no secret.
Ain't no secret. So OK.
I love that. I love that.
Who is more likely to be manipulated by the kids to get what they want?
First, Stephanie.
Them kids not manipulate me. I always be like, something— Yeah.
I fall for it.
I do. You do?
So sucker. I'm such a sucker.
It's because you love them.
I am.
Who would your kids prefer to be stuck in a long car ride with?
Stephanie. Stephanie.
Who would your kids call if they're going through a messy breakup?
I think both of us. You, what do you say? I, I—
it is both.
I would say both. They always call us both.
So we can go like this?
Yeah, they go like— I say both of us because our kids know that We both have different perspectives, but we're always going to be supportive of what they feel.
Yes.
We're never like, we told you. We're always going to be like, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who do your kids call when it comes to sex or sexual identity?
What?
It's not— I'm saying both, and you're saying— because you know what? I know why.
They told me some things, and then they tell you a couple of weeks later. Because you do. You still, Mom, you freak out when it comes to sex and stuff. I don't freak out. I'd be like, okay, let's have a talk about it. You'd be like, what?
You did what?
Just a minute ago you thought Jason had another girlfriend, girl.
I was about to die. He better not mess it up. I want him to get married. I love him. But yeah, wow, Karamo.
You're not gonna see my answers no more because you're cheating over there.
To forgive the kids for a major screw-up?
I'm a little bit more strict. I mean, I will always forgive them because love is forgiveness, but you're gonna have to show me.
Yeah, let's say that you'll forgive, but it's gonna take like a person have to keep showing.
I need to— I need you to show up. I need to show up. The words have to come with action and match it. Yeah, yeah, you're just gonna do it just off like, okay, yeah, okay baby, I love you. First Yeah, fresh start. But I think there's healthy in both.
Yeah, the balance.
Who would your kids call if they got arrested?
Immediately.
First of all, I've kind of put it out there, don't call me if you go to jail. You know better.
She said many times, she already told them, you get in trouble with something, don't call me.
Do not do it.
And they know that I'm gonna be there in 5 minutes. I'm gonna have the lawyer there, everything. I'm gonna have everything there.
Release my child.
Yeah. But then on top of that, once they got out the house, then they're going to wish they called their mama because it's coming with some consequences. What? No. Why you?
Why you?
Oh my gosh. I think the most enlightening was that our child, the one that we didn't agree on, he let us know why we don't agree on him. We can't keep secrets. But that's good.
I like that, though. We tell each other what's going on. I'm not going to tell them. Tell me what happened.
What was it? Brring! You know what? Jason said, "Brring!" Now you've learned a little bit more about who our children actually will come to, me or Stephanie. Listen, I've been having fun with you, Stephanie. I love us doing this series together.
I love us, period. Like, this is us. This is everything.
