Who's SUCKING My Girlfriend's TOES? | KARAMO

Karamo, I need your help. I feel like I'm dating a cheating-ass whore. 2 weeks ago, I come home from work and she was blacked out drunk, like some, "Bae, get away from me. Bae, leave me alone. Don't talk to me." And I was just so confused of why she's telling me to get away from her. So I end up just taking her phone, and when I end up going through her phone, I end up seeing a bitch-ass video, and it just changed everything. And I took her whole phone for a whole entire week, and during that time, I tried to investigate, I was looking real deep and digging and I could not find nothing at all. And I was just wondering why couldn't I find it. So I contact you for help. So now let's unlock this girl phone so I can really find out the truth.

All right, well we're unlocking Cameron's phone to see what's really going on. We'll meet Derek shortly, but let's start with Cameron and hear her side of the story. So everyone, welcome Cameron to the show. Okay, Karamo, I gotta ask you first of all, what was the video he saw?

It was something a little sexual.

Okay, what was it in sexual nature?

Like a little bit of sucking.

Sucking what?

It was just sucking my toes.

Who was sucking your toes?

Somebody that ain't relevant for real. It's somebody I really don't even know like that.

So you just letting some random dude suck your toes?

Okay, so basically—

I'm trying to get details, girl.

No, no, it's a story behind it.

Okay, tell me the story.

They was, no, Derrick was leaving the house. This is when he first got back from Chicago. He was living with me. So he was leaving out 'cause he be in Grand Rapids too. So he was leaving out and then I'm like, why you keep leaving? Like he leave every day and come back at nighttime. Like your curfew at 12, so make sure you just be at home before 12.

You gave him a curfew?

Yeah, I gave him a curfew straight on deck. If you live near my house, you gonna have a curfew. So he used to go out, so I'm like, one day I'm like, shoot, I'm finna go out with my friend. So we went out and this dude, she was with a dude, but she know him, but I don't know him like that. And we got drunk, we was having fun, had a little ball or whatever. But I know I gotta be in because if I'm giving him a curfew, I'm gonna be in before 12 too. So we dropped her off and he was bringing me home. But before he brought me home, he stopped somewhere and was like, "Let me do this and this and that to you." I'm like, "Nah, I'm okay. I have a boyfriend." But he kept begging me and then I'm already drunk so I'm just like, "Fuck it, eat my toe." So, so I'm like, "You wanna do something, suck it." So, so then he was so confident on eating my toe. So like my toe, my toe. Y'all, my toenails wasn't even done or nothing. Like, I'm talking about chipped and all. So he still decided to lick it. So I recorded him and I kept it in my phone.

'Cause you gonna play him later? Because it was sex, like you liked it? What was it? Why you recorded it? You was gonna show it off to your girlfriend and be like, look what this stupid fool did?

No, I'm about to tell you. Let me get to it.

Okay.

Right? So when we get there, I was drunk. Like, I was so drunk at this point, y'all. I keep it a buck 50 in all my relationships, so that's what I expect Derek to do at all times. So as soon as I stepped up in the crib, he like, where you was at? I showed him the video. That's where I was at.

So you was actually trying to get him back 'cause you feel like he been out doing his thing.

Yeah.

So you wanna say, you wanna say this what I just did. Is that what you was doing?

Kinda, 'cause I don't trust him. But it was more so of I don't want you to find out no other way, so I'm just gonna tell you myself straight up.

Okay. I'm gonna ask you this. Have you ever dipped your toe into cheating before?

Dipped my toe into cheating is crazy.

Girl, you know what?

That's insane. You know, I thought of it. I thought of it, but—

You said no, you ain't do it. You ain't never do it.

I ain't gonna say I never cheated, yeah.

Oh, so you have?

Yeah, I have. But it was because I didn't trust him.

Y'all been together for 12 months?

Yeah.

That's it? Oh, that's a cute little photo. I mean, y'all an attractive couple, but I mean, y'all do some ugly things to each other, but. Yeah. Listen, you wanna know if Derrick has any dating apps on his phone, if Derrick has any DMs with other women in his phone, and if Derrick has any inappropriate texts between him and any other women.

Yes.

Those are your main concerns. Okay, well, let's hear Derrick's side of the story. So everyone please welcome Derrick to the show. How you doing, Derrick? How you doing? I'm good, nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you also.

Nice to meet you, yeah. So why did you decide to stay together after seeing that video?

After seeing that video with her coming to me and actually apologizing and everything after that, one thing I do believe in in relationships when you actually love someone, I believe in chances. It's always, like if you really love someone, you will really change for a person. So I felt like when she came to me and actually was speaking all these things, and apologizing and kissing all up on me and trying to show me that she's actually sorry. And I never, being cheated on or anything, I never received that. Like a person actually showing me that they're sorry. So for that, I just felt like we had a chance. We could make something work.

Did you keep her phone for a week?

Yes.

Okay. And what did you do with it while you had it?

I was just going through it, seeing if I'll see any type of messages that'll pop up or anything like that. Something that would be unexpected for me.

Did you see anything on the phone when you had it for a week?

Actually, during that time, no. But later, 'cause y'all, you talking about the toe part and everything, it wasn't, that was not the first thing that I seen. She didn't come to me and show me her sucking his toe. What happened was—

Or him sucking her toe.

Yeah, him sucking her toes. That was not what happened. She came to me, showed me the phone, and it was the guy, "That's how it was." Hold on.

So the, you didn't mention that. So the guy in the car that you showed was giving you oral sex?

Yeah.

And your toes?

Yeah.

Don't leave out what happened after that.

And then what happened after that? Nothing.

So what you talking about?

What happened?

I caught an STD. Oh.

What? Okay. 'Cause you also want to unlock her phone.

Mm-hmm.

And you want to know if Cameron has any dating apps on her phone, if Cameron has any inappropriate photos on her phone, and if Cameron has any inappropriate texts on her phone with any other men. And if Cameron has anything suspicious on her phone at all. Yeah. I got a clear baseline of where y'all at as young 20-year-olds. I got a very clear understanding. But you did come here for unlocking the phones, so it's time to unlock the phone. Yes, Derek. All right, all right. Derek, we unlocked your phone first. All right, Karamo wants to know if Derek has any dating apps on his phone. Derek, you said you do not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched your apps and found that Derek is not telling the truth. Dating apps? He has Snapchat and IG on his phone.

My Snapchat was deleted.

Okay.

I have Instagram, I just don't use Instagram.

He don't use it. Got it. But you don't not allow it. Okay. You don't care about Instagram. Okay. Cameron, you wanna know if Derrick has any DMs with other women in his phone and Derrick says he does not. My locked phone investigator searched his DMs and found that Derrick is not telling the truth. He has one DM exchange with a woman named K 2 days ago at 9:46 PM. 9:46 PM talking about hooking up.

Okay, that's her.

Oh, so y'all DMing each other talking about hooking up?

What?

This is 2 days ago at 9:46 PM. So you'll be able to search your things. We'll be able to show it to you backstage who this is. So do y'all DM each other?

Like while y'all waiting?

Yeah, when he at work.

Okay, through social media.

Yeah.

Listen, we find everything. So we don't know who it is. We find it all. All right, Karamo, you wanna know if Derek has any inappropriate text messages between him and any other woman. Derrick says he does not. Monlock the Phone investigator searches texts and found that Derrick is not telling the truth. He has 2 deleted texts between him and I guess your ex. Okay.

His baby mama.

Okay. Okay, can I see it? Can I see what's going on here? Okay, let me see what's happening right now. "Okay, so I guess this is the child that you all just had. I'll send more, I'm just tired because of the sleep and I'm in pain. You keep her away from me, you kept her from seeing me. I understand your frustration and you stopped sharing your location with her." Why does she got your location?

She had my location when we had did, before we came out here, I sent all my locations to everyone.

Why?

No.

Why?

There's no reason I shouldn't have done it.

And just like you got her Facebook in your phone.

I don't have her Facebook in my phone.

You do. That's how I caught you cheating.

You went through my phone. You went through my messages.

He just recently turned off.

This is August. Yeah, this is August.

In August?

Yes.

That when I turned off my location?

Uh-huh. No, you stopped sharing the location with your ex at 6:45 AM the day you traveled here.

I was confused, yeah.

So that's when they stopped sharing the location.

Yeah, but my—

I gotta ask you, why do you have an issue with him showing his location with his child's mother?

Because why do she need your location? I don't get it.

'Cause she has my children.

Okay, she has your children, but do you have your children? She has your children. You don't got your children. She need to know where you at for? That's not your bitch.

You're right.

I don't even got your location.

Hold up, stop that. Let's stop that 'cause you did have my location. I had your location, you had my location, but we got into it. And you blocked me and that's when it went away.

That don't make sense why she got your location. I don't give a fuck what you say.

I don't give a fuck how you talk about me. So I heard the real issue, the real issue is that you felt like you didn't have the location.

Yeah, basically, but she can always have my location.

I get it, I get it, I understand. I hear the real issue there. All right, well listen, you now know what was in his phone. Cameron, we unlocked your phone. Derek, you wanna know if Cameron has any dating apps on her phone. Cameron says, Cameron says she does not. Mind Lock the Phone investigators searched her apps and found that Cameron is telling the truth. You want to know if Cameron has any inappropriate photos in her phone. Cameron says she does not. Mind Lock the Phone investigators searched her photos and found that Cameron is telling the truth. This is obviously outside what you've seen. Mm-hmm. Okay. Derek wants to know if Cameron has any inappropriate texts between her and any other men. Cameron says she does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her texts and found that Cameron is telling the truth. That's good. Derek, you wanna know if Cameron has anything suspicious on her phone? Cameron says she does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her phone and found that Cameron is not telling the truth with that one. So what we found suspicious is that Karamo went on a dating site looking for older men and added 6 of those contacts to her phone. You know the site?

I don't know what the hell that is. That's cap. That's cap. Why would I want older men? No, just 'cause my boyfriend owns it.

You said they spend money.

They do, but it's not about that. Why would I go on a dating site when I could just go on Facebook? That's where all the shit at. Why would I go on a dating site?

Well, these have all been added to your phone. So this is not something that we have to make up. You went on Meet Seniors Elite Dating.

I didn't even know what that is.

So does someone else have your phone?

Him, that's it.

Okay.

Yeah, but other than that, no. I'm not gonna lie, I don't, no.

I'm gonna start with you. I understand that you have a lot of insecurities because you have went through a lot of bad relationships with men. So what you're doing to protect yourself is creating these controlling boundaries like you gotta be home at 12, you gotta be in this, you gotta share your location, you gotta do this. And all it's doing is it's keeping you trapped in a cycle where instead of getting what you deserve getting healthier, you're just finding men who are gonna keep doing that to you so you can keep finding it that's gonna cause the toxic behavior.

Right, you're right. That makes sense.

Why are you scared to take a moment with yourself? What do you think's gonna happen is if you don't have any relationships? Because listen, you're a young woman.

I'm just scared of being alone for real.

I get that.

I'm really scared of being alone. I don't wanna be alone 'cause I feel like I ain't got nobody.

Got it.

But I do have a kid, but when she's not with me, I feel like extremely alone. So I don't know. I just keep on getting in relationships. I don't know why, but I'm looking for love in the wrong places.

Yeah. But you know where the place is to look for that?

Where?

It's with yourself. It takes time, but you're 23 and you could actually get there because you're not 20, 30 years into a pattern yet. Now with you, you are dealing with a lot. 27, 2 kids. I actually believe that you wanna be the best man for her. And so that's where this is like kind of like keeping y'all on this side of toxic cycle because you see the quality that it could have in it, but then y'all are still triggering each other. And the reason y'all are triggering each other is because neither of y'all have healed from what it is that got y'all here in the first place. The fact that y'all said that y'all are pushing to each other where y'all are now, getting aggressive, you're getting yourself back in a cycle that you didn't need to be in with somebody who wasn't like that before. And you're taking yourself down a whole new path because you can't deal with your emotions. Where now this might become a pattern where now I can't deal with my emotions. You in front of my face, let me push you. Right. You end up in jail, you end up dead.

Yeah.

So it's time to stop fixing your phones and start fixing yourselves. Okay? At the end of the day, this is not gonna get better. The only way is if y'all took some time apart, healed yourself, did what I tell you to do, think about the things you love about yourself, figure out how to be with yourself and give yourself those things. And then maybe in a year come back together. That's the only way I could possibly see this. But right now it's not gonna work. But again, if you're willing to take my advice here, I will make sure that when we talk to you backstage, we give you some of those resources so you can figure out how to start to help yourself. Yes.

Yeah, I think that.

Because I promise y'all can be 30 and be so happy and healthy. I promise y'all. What I'm trying to give y'all is the first step on how to love yourself and how to grow. Y'all got it?

Yes.

I really wish y'all the best of luck. Sincerely.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it. You're welcome.

All right, yeah. Appreciate y'all.