Why I Told My Husband to "Kick Her in the Throat" 😳 | KARAMO

You say your wife is possessive. What's going on?

Karamo, I feel like I'm married to a CIA agent.

In what way?

She checks my phone.

Yeah.

She inquires about my messages when I'm at work.

She sound like she need a talk show. Okay.

No, she does. She really does. I feel like I'm the other half of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Like, it's really serious.

Okay.

For real.

Hold on, but Mr. and Mrs. Smith get a little violent when they're dealing stuff. Does she get abusive with you?

No, there's no—

Okay, good.

Well, I mean, she's like a 6'5" gangster trapped in a 5'2" body of a woman.

Okay, so she's verbally loud.

She's a strong-willed woman.

Okay, yeah. Okay, so you also said she resents your career.

Yes, I think she does.

What is your career?

I'm in entertainment, I'm an actor.

Okay then.

If there's a woman on set, if there's a woman that has anything to do with the production, It's like she thinks that they're somehow interested in me.

Oh, okay, me. I got it, I got it. Okay, tell me about this rumor. What's the rumor?

Okay, so there was a rumor. I stayed out. I did have a female co-star. There was a rumor that we were, we had too much chemistry, I guess you could say. And you know, it got back to her and that started a whole big thing.

So who started this rumor?

I wish I knew the answer to that, but It got back to her and she ran with it.

Okay, you also said something, you said you had to stay out. What does that mean?

We had a disagreement the night before I had to film. It was very serious. I said, "I'm gonna take some space." I went and I stayed at a hotel.

Okay, got it. How did it affect your marriage?

Well, I mean, she became more suspicious.

Got it, okay.

So the CIA tactics increased. She was checking my phone, she was asking for my phone randomly throughout the day. These type of things.

I just— Were you giving it to her?

Yeah, we have an open relationship in that sense that if she asks for my phone, I will give it to her.

Okay, good. Immediately following the rumors, your relationship took another hit. What happened?

Yeah, we were pregnant. Okay. And we lost the baby.

Okay.

Yeah, thank you. You know, I feel as, you know, she might have had resentment against me for working during that time.

Oh, because during that you went back to work?

I had to work, man. I was filming.

Got it. And what hurts you the most about the situation?

Well, the situation, first of all, I'm a faithful man. So that hurts the most, the suspicion.

And so you've never cheated, not once?

No.

Okay then. So does Zonnica, you feel like she resents you?

I feel like she resents my career. I feel like there's some resentment. There's some resentment based on what we've been through.

Got it. Tell me exactly how did you two meet?

How did y'all meet? Well, we met on a Christian dating site.

And when did you get married? How shortly after y'all started dating?

Less than 6 months.

Less than 6 months. Okay, okay. Now I see the red flag. No, no. Okay, less than 6 months. But if you know, you know. Let's meet Danequa and hear her side of the story. Danequa, come on out.

You are funny. A lot, I don't care who tell it.

How are you doing?

How you doing?

Good, how are you? You are beautiful.

You cute.

You are beautiful.

I'm gonna sit here until I get, 'cause that was a lot.

Okay, so what?

That was good.

So tell me, okay, so tell me from your point of view, what is it?

Talk to him.

Where you wanna start?

Okay, did you have an issue with Jay being at work that day?

I don't have an issue with Jay ever being at work. My issue is, the environment of your work. The people, the environment, the things that go on, the negativity, the toxic stuff. I've been in this entertainment business for a long time as well. But we both know how the urban community is.

Like I might have worked though.

And when you're, somebody said yeah, right? I just wanna make sure we know what we talking about, okay. So when you're telling me whether you're doing it to make me jealous or insecure or whatever the case it is, whether you're trying to ruffle my feathers. If you're on set and you're telling me, hey, this girl is doing too much, she's shaking her ass in front of me, she's doing this in front of me. Normally I'd be there ready to take my earrings off, but I'm not there. So if you're giving me this information, what wife is gonna be comfortable with that?

Yeah, okay then. So what is your thought pattern behind giving that information?

That information once again was me, like I said, we are open with each other. So if I'm on set and I'm saying, okay, well somebody's trying to do too much, that's just me talking to my wife.

So why do you receive it as if he's trying to like make you jealous?

Because why give me the information and then when I react on it, it's an issue?

Okay.

I'm confused, I'm confused.

Well, there's levels of reaction, right? Most times it's an accusation instead of trying to see.

What's an accusation? If you're telling me this is happening and I'm saying, oh, this is happening and that's what I'm talking about, how is it an accusation?

Because it's not me participating in anything with the people that I'm telling you about. I'm at work.

Time out now.

Time out now.

Time out now, 'cause that's not necessarily true.

Okay, tell me what's not true about that.

That's not necessarily true, because there's been situations. My husband, of course he's fine. Any fine y'all, he's fine. Now, however, how do you—

He fine too, by the way. Okay, just letting me know. Just letting me know.

Okay, if you're sitting there telling me these things are going on, I'm not making it up. It's information you're giving me. So if you don't come home at night off of an argument that I don't feel was really necessarily warranted for you not to come home, what you think I'm gonna think? If it look like a duck, quack like a duck, I'm gonna think it's a what?

So what was the rumor you heard? What was the rumor you heard?

He has a thing where he's very charismatic and sometimes he has to understand in an urban community, when you're a married man, you have to present differently. You have to set more clearer boundaries.

That's true.

You understand what I'm saying? And my whole thing is, there's nothing wrong with being cordial, being complimentary, whatever the case it is. He's a good man. However, some women take that differently. You understand what I'm saying? I'm not out here trying to be embarrassed. I'm not out here trying to be embarrassed.

She told me that if a woman tries to speak to me to—

Punch her in the throat. And that was a joke. That was a joke.

Y'all don't get toxic talking about parents.

Y'all don't get toxic talking about parents.

She told me.

See, this is what my audience— I love my audience. They over here talking about, Y'all say it, right?

Punch her where? In the throat.

No.

Let the church say amen.

And this is what I'm talking about. It's not a search for the facts. It's basically a conviction.

You gave me the facts, bro.

Yeah, okay. So what was the rumor exactly that you had heard?

That he was being too chummy chummy with someone and it didn't look right. And the person that told me has been in the industry for years. I trust their judgment and I trust what they're saying.

Yeah, okay then. You trust that woman's judgment more than your husband's judgment?

That's a great question. And this is ultimately— This is ultimately what I'm wondering.

It's not that I trust their judgment over his. If their judgment coincides with what he's telling me.

Okay.

I'm not delusional. I'm not delusional.

So Jay, I just wanna be clear. Where were you that night? Why didn't you come home?

Yeah, where were you?

So the night that I didn't come home, production had got an Airbnb for me. So I stayed in the Airbnb.

Okay.

And then after that, I had pulled a scene.

Why would you just talk about production?

I reported to set, you know, after that.

Yeah, okay then. You said production, you don't believe that production got him an Airbnb?

I believe that production got him an Airbnb. However, we had really, really big serious issues with production and things that were going on behind the scenes and the disrespect that I was tolerating and having to deal with in the process of also me losing my daughter. Got it, okay then.

So production was disrespecting you?

Ooh, baby.

Okay then. Did you know about that?

I did.

You didn't know about that. Okay, 'cause you feel like, you told my producer that you feel like he doesn't protect you. Explain, or didn't protect you in that moment. Explain.

I lost my daughter. I had actually two miscarriages back to back. One, 5 and a half months, I was a week and a half away from the safe zone. And then the other months after fetal demise. One of the coworkers that he was dealing with was speaking negatively about me, saying, "Fuck that B with the dead baby." Oh!

What?

Wow.

Is that true?

This is, it was a recording.

Now I can't turn up though. I can't turn up.

I heard the recording. I didn't hear the full recording.

These the same people that got you the rap. Make it make sense.

The person that bought the recording to us, I know that person.

It's the same person that gave me the information.

Of course, these things were never said to me. These things were even held from me. We didn't hear the recording until sometime later.

Yeah, but in the moment you felt it, even though you didn't hear the recording until later, in the moment you felt it and you expressed it.

Happily what she said before she even told me to record 'em 'cause she knows I don't play those type of games.

Yeah, exactly.

Don't lie to me, don't play with me when it comes to my husband.

Is there any part of you that blames Jay for your loss?

Absolutely not.

Okay, good.

You know, I can't take away God's purpose and plan. If there is any type of animosity or feeling, it's because I feel like he doesn't really take accountability or acknowledge the turmoil of drama and stress that I was under during when he was living his best damn life.

Yeah. Do you feel hurt in this relationship?

Hell no.

You don't feel hurt?

Hell no.

Do you feel like you hear her?

What I feel is that we speak in two different languages. Because as a man, there's only but so much of a range of emotion that I can express in a relationship.

Which is no emotion. I'm just looking out.

In a relationship, and this is what I have to do.

No, 'cause this is the first time I'm actually able to speak.

Yeah.

So I'm excited. I'm actually able to hear.

If I can finish, sweetheart. It comes as aggressiveness.

Yeah, I don't wanna talk like this. This is weird.

You don't talk like this at home?

It's the sweater. It's the sweater. Like, it's giving Park Inn. Who is this guy right now? This is not how you talk.

You don't talk like this normally?

This is not how you talk. He is not this. Stop it, bruh.

I don't know what she talking about. But what I'm trying to— You're not this calm?

'Cause I came here to be real. Is he this calm normally?

Karamo. Okay. Karamo. Okay, okay.

I'm trying to answer your question.

Okay, answer my question.

So the answer to the question is I believe that we speak two different languages, right? When I'm facing the issue, I want to get the facts of the issue. So I'm gonna feel guilty for things—

The facts that he's talking about is really extreme.

Okay.

You get what I'm saying? Yeah.

So essentially, to reiterate what she's saying, her mind is made up already.

Yeah.

Without hearing what I have to say. That's what she's just said.

Yeah.

Okay, so let me ask this. If you make up these rules, abide by them. If it's friends that we know that's been in our lives forever, that's fine. That's one thing. But for me to go on social media and reach out to a man, it's a big no-no.

Yes.

Which I respect and I understand. But why is it okay for him to do it?

Yes. So do you do it?

Karamo, once again, Karamo, what I've done is I've reached out.

It's giving, it's giving.

Like I said, I am a faithful man.

It's giving, it's giving.

I'm listening to you, I'm listening to you, I'm listening to you.

But I want them to hear me too.

They don't hear you.

I'm a faithful man and my whole thing is that in those instances where she's claiming that I'm communicating with women and I'm doing all these other things.

Did you do it? It's a yes or no, did you do it?

Okay.

These are all, if not all, work-related situations.

So you're saying that the rule you gave about talking to opposite sex only applies if it's outside of work?

I've been doing things for years. And I, since I have, since January 20th when I met this man and we have taken it serious and we did our vows and whoop-de-woo, I don't play those type of games. I don't even let him feel the need.

What she's implying is that I'm not being truthful.

And he knows this. He knows this. So to sit here and act like That's not the case. Bruh, man.

Okay, well listen, it's time to unlock the phone. We asked our unlock the phone investigators.

Karamo got my bail money just in case.

Okay. We asked the unlock the phone investigators. One second. I'm not getting that. One second.

Y'all got security?

What's going on?

Why you smirking? What's in your phone?

Okay, so you wanted to unlock Jay's phone to help clear up some of the concerns around the rumors last year, correct? That part. All right, it's time to unlock the phone. So Jay, we unlocked your phone. Actually, we did not unlock your phone. You refused to unlock the phone. Okay.

I did not.

He's delusional.

Can I get an amen?

Can I get an amen?

I didn't refuse. I didn't refuse to unlock my phone.

Okay.

I declined. That's her excuse.

You see what I'm saying?

I declined because she has access to my phone.

I do, I know I have access to your phone.

Anytime she wants.

I go in there every night when he go to sleep.

Right now, if my phone was in my pocket and she said, "Jay, can I see your phone?" I would hand it to her with no problem.

Okay then.

I've gone through it very extensively because I'm on my—

He said you on the CIA, so.

CIA? Ain't got nothing on me, boo boo. Okay. Put my earrings back in.

Okay, I will tell you this though. I already see, I identified the problem within the first 5 minutes of you walking out when hearing what you had to say. I understand your point of view. I understand that you wanna share. I understand that for you, you're like, I'm sharing to let you in so that you don't have any suspicions. But what's happening is that when you share, you also must secure. And that's where you're not doing that. Anytime information is shared with her, she needs to feel secured with the actions it's the questions that are coming after. And that's where she needs you to then step in to make sure she's feeling secure. The sharing is great. I think it's actually an awesome tool that you're being so transparent. I wish more men on this stage would be transparent and share. It would be, listen, I'd be a happy man.

He could hide them if he wanted.

But you gotta give the security. And I don't think you realize that that's where the breakdown is happening. I'm not calling you a bad guy. I wanna be very clear here. I actually think that most of the action that you've done leading up to this is actually pretty great. I actually, most of the advice that I've given you saying, be transparent, do these things. I understand why you didn't unlock your phone. I ain't gonna hate on you for any of that stuff. But what I'm saying to you, especially in this instance, I don't know about any other instance, but on this set where there was so much confusion and turmoil, I understand you're frustrated. I understand that you're saying like, I'm tired right now. But equally at the same moment, the woman that you have committed to that you love is saying, I'm tired. These people are disrespecting me. I've lost our child. I am tired. I need to feel secure in this place. Moment. And even though you're protecting yourself, I understand that. I'm not gonna ever tell you not to protect yourself, but you also have to make sure, and I believe you know this, that the man you are, you gotta protect the sanctity of this marriage. That is your mantra. It's almost funny. Seriously.

Can you write that down? 'Cause I've been saying that forever. Like I've been saying that forever.

Listen, I think there's love here. I know there's love there. There is. Just make sure you work on this security. With the security's worked on, y'all gonna be great.

No, that's solid.

All right, perfect. I appreciate y'all being here.