Will The 26-Year Age Difference Ruin Their Wedding? | KARAMO

Are you cheating on your fiancée?

Hell no.

Okay, great, okay. So why is she accusing you?

2 years ago, a stalker that was stalking her told her he seen me get in a car at a gas station and having sex in the gas station.

And this is a man that's stalking her?

Stalking her.

Okay, and then gonna say that he saw you doing something?

Right, with a bony dreadhead woman.

Not a bony, okay.

And I like, my women thick.

Okay.

But it was—

It's a 26-year age difference, right?

You better believe it.

So do you think that the age difference is an issue at all?

No.

Okay, not at all?

No.

All right. And so you are engaged to be married, but do you wanna have kids?

Yes.

Okay, you do wanna have kids?

Yes.

All right, brother, good for you.

Oh yeah.

Okay.

The math still works.

Yeah, yeah. I wasn't saying it like that. I wasn't saying it like that, but I'm like, okay, 'cause you 59, about to be 60.

Yeah, I'll be 60. So the fact that you still want kids, you saying like, Hey, all my kids are grown. I love being a dad.

But you start over with her, okay. Right. How does she accuse you of cheating?

She says that I'm cheating when I'm on the phone with her, I'm sneaking women in the house. I can't go to the trash can, I'm cheating. I take the dog out, I'm cheating.

So have y'all ever broken up?

Yeah.

Y'all broke up? How many times? 'Cause how long y'all been together?

We've been together, Going on 4 years off and on.

4 years off and on. You told my producers that she trashes your apartment. Is that true?

Yeah, we trash it. We trash it.

You trash it.

Both of us.

Okay. You sent a video of this? Yes. Let me see the video.

Nobody's never been in here. No visitors at all. Look at my clothes, sir. All on my clothes. I didn't put nothing on her clothes. Look at the bed. Syrup all in the bed. Syrup all in my shoes. This is the stuff that I go through every day. And I'm tired of this, you know? I'm really tired of this shit.

Hold on, so y'all did that together?

Yeah, together.

So what happened? Hold on, were y'all doing a little something freaky with the syrup? 'Cause I need to know how the syrup came involved.

I'm gonna put it like this.

'Cause I didn't know how the syrup got from the kitchen all the way to the blinds.

I threw some water on her She took some onion dip stuff and flushed it on my head. I threatened to throw some coffee on the couch, which I didn't. And then all of a sudden she in the bedroom with the syrup, so.

Got it. So I know that we are here to unlock both of your phones to get to the truth of this. Do you think she's cheating?

Yeah.

You do think she's cheating?

Yeah, I do. Because I was always told the one who does the accusing is the one who's doing.

All right, well, we gonna find that out later. Well, everyone, before we do that, let's welcome China to the show to hear what she gotta say.

I know you lying. You a liar. What do you mean? I go to work and I text him. The alarm going off constantly while I'm at work. Are you tripping? Or you delusional?

But you still sitting here talking about, I'm having sex with some bitch or woman on the phone. So I'm on the phone.

You're a liar.

Here.

Why you doing— I'm going out. The door is open. The door is open in and out. What are you talking about? Yeah, oh, I'm sitting here watching the movie. I'm sitting here watching the movie. Yeah, watch the movie in your—

Get out of here. So when I go to the damn trash can— You don't got to pee that much. When I go to the trash can, I'm sleeping with the trash can.

The dog that much?

Okay, hold on, I gotta get some details right here. So hold on. First of all, welcome to the show.

Thank you.

You look beautiful. Take a seat for me. Hold on. I felt like I got a whole bunch right there. I understand a lot. So first of all, so your suspicions are coming from the fact of, not the fact that he's communicating with you, 'cause it sounds like he talks to you while you're at work.

Right.

So then, but when he goes out, so like you just said he walks the dog 4 times, then you start feeling like there's something going on.

Right.

Okay, and you also said the alarm's going off?

The alarm going, when I'm at work, the alarm's going off, beeping 4 times. The door closed twice. The white door closing 4 times.

Got it.

Oh, I'm walking the dog. The dog walking twice, 4 or 5 times at night? It's too many times. That's the problem.

So have you tried to catch him cheating before in the past? I have. And what happened?

I have caught him in the DM.

Okay.

He was shocked and surprised. He gonna tell me, well, that's a girl that me and my best friend knew. A long time ago. She don't even live in this area, so you shouldn't even be worried about it.

So what you doing in the DMs?

A friend of ours got murdered.

Okay.

And she DM'd me, I DM'd her back. But if you check, there's no sexual nothing.

But why she telling in the DM, oh well, she must be around 'cause you can't talk.

Why do I need to talk to her for?

What you mean what you need to talk to her for? Because the conversation you was having, the conversation you wanna talk to me about.

The conversation about our friend that got murdered was over with.

And she like, Oh, well you can't communicate 'cause she must be in front of you.

'Cause I didn't wanna talk to her.

But why are you talking to her in the first place?

Because a friend of ours got me there.

Yeah, but it seemed like she was communicating more than a friend.

Okay, but where did you—

But hold on, because if she was doing that, from what it sounds like you're saying and he's saying, it matches up that he didn't respond. It sound like this woman was.

He responded, but he deleted messages.

Do you delete messages?

Hell no.

Okay, you keep everything in your phone. Right. Why are you staying with him if you think he unfaithful like this?

Because I love him so much. We've been together for 4 years.

Yes.

You know?

But 4 years of having to check on the showers and check on the bed and do all this, that's a lot.

I know, and that's why I'm trying to figure out, Karamo, today, what's going on, 'cause I need to know.

To me, it seems—

I'm tired, I've been here for 4 years going on and off with this man, I need to know.

To me, it seems like you trying to set me up too cheap.

How am I setting nobody up too cheap?

And found my man stays in his pants, he only come off when I go to the bathroom, when I go to the shower.

You don't satisfy me, you don't satisfy me. You don't even satisfy me. Get it together.

Hold on, is that why you're arguing after sex? Because he said y'all had 3, 4 times and you're saying now that these sex ain't— He don't satisfy me.

I can't tell.

He can't, he don't satisfy me.

I can't tell.

He talking about what's in his pants and ain't doing it right. He's not doing it right.

Messy for that. So you're saying you're not satisfied?

Right.

Have you ever heard this before?

Nah, this the first time I'm hearing it.

Do you communicate that with him?

It shouldn't matter 'cause I want his self-esteem to be up 'Cause I'm so older.

Ooh.

So you're doing it for her self-esteem.

Yes.

I'm just upset and I'm tired. I'm too good of a woman to be out here sitting here letting this man think he gonna do anything around my back.

And I'm too good of a man to do the same, feel the same way. I pay the rent, I pay the car note.

Hold on, when you ain't had no job, I held it down. I'm still holding it down. I furnished the whole place that you're messing up.

Okay, I'm gonna ask you this. Will you stop accusing him if we don't find anything in his phone?

Of course, that'd be a relief on me.

Then I can walk down the aisle.

And vice versa, will you stop accusing her?

If I find nothing in her phone, I promise to marry this woman for the rest of her life.

Okay, he said for the rest of her life. Okay, well let's go ahead and unlock your phone. I think it's time to unlock your phone first, China. William, you first want to know if there are any photos is showing evidence of her with other men on her phone. Chyna says she is not and there is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator found that she is telling the truth. William, you specifically want to know if Chyna has been going to any suspicious locations other than work. Chyna says she's not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her GPS and Chyna is telling the truth. I told you! William wants to know if Chyna has any dating apps on her phone. China says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigator found that she is not telling the truth. We found the dating app Badoo downloaded on your phone since November 7th, and you've recently been active on it.

Oh, oh, so it's the pot calling the kettle black then.

Yeah, you know why? Because at the end of the day, I know you are doing something.

Okay, well William, you want to know if China has been messaging any other men in her DMs? She says she is not. And my unlock the phone investigator found she is not telling the truth. We found 30 different DM chats with multiple men on the dating apps as recently as last week.

Where?

On this dating app. Oh. You were being in communication with them. Yeah, at the end of the day, this is when we was arguing, right?

Yeah, so when you, so you can do it when we argue, but when I do it when we argue.

But you say you don't do it, so which one is it?

Well, I think William, I guess it's time to unlock your phone so we get the truth of this.

Let's go. I'm gonna say yes.

All right, China, you want to know if there were any photos of other women in William's phone. He says there is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched William's photos and he's telling the truth. We found no suspicious photos. China, you wanna know if William's communicating with other women on social media. I told you. William says he's not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his DMs and found that William is telling the truth.

Whoa!

We found no suspicious DMs at all. Chyna, you wanted to know if he had been in contact with his ex-coworker or the neighbor. He says he has not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his phone and found that William is not telling the truth.

Woo! I knew it!

I knew it! He is not in contact. I knew it! He is not in contact with the neighbor. But we did find 399 deleted texts and calls with his ex-coworker. The reason I'm bringing this, and this has all been since June. The reason I bring this up is because William, this is interesting right now. I asked you specifically if you delete anything and your exact words to me is, "I do not delete anything." Why did you ask me to talk about that?

I knew it. What have you been deleting?

What messages have you been deleting with your ex-coworker?

I don't even talk to my ex-coworker.

Well, 399 messages were deleted from June.

Man, you gotta show me these.

I knew it.

Well, the unfortunate part is, is that they were swiped, so we can't show you what the message says. We can't show you what the message says. We can only see that 399 messages were swiped and deleted from the phone.

I ain't delete no messages.

Huh?

'Cause you also did, your part of your defense was that she has your passcode and she can see whatever, but if you delete something, it don't matter if someone has your passcode.

Okay, so, So, so, so.

You not innocent either, girl. You was on a date nap last week.

I've been taking it too much. And I've been telling him it's been over. I've been telling him it's been over. I'm tired and I'm sick and I've been tired. I've been holding this man down for 4 years.

And I've been holding you down for 4 years.

Okay, let's be real with this. After listening to all this, the fact of the matter is, is y'all are two bulls in a china shop, and that's the real it is, okay? And so we saw how the photos were from beginning to end, where it starts off where it's nice and clean and things are healthy, and then it goes chaotic. Y'all unfortunately have gotten to a pattern where neither of you're happy. You just said you're not satisfied. I know you're not satisfied and happy with, not saying that you're not satisfied with her, but you're not satisfied with this style of life. You're tired of being accused. You're unhappy. You feel like he's not hearing you. I don't understand other, what is holding you two together because This is a relationship where you're in a cycle of just in, it's a toxic cycle that you both have been in. And at the end of the day, what's hard for me is that you both are attractive, beautiful people. You both have great personalities. You both probably are the joy to be around, but you're not a joy to be around with each other anymore. And that's the sad part. And what's happening is that it's affecting y'all's personalities. It's affecting who y'all are becoming. And if you keep practicing this type of, behavior where you're always accusing somebody, you're always feeling paranoid, you're always feeling like you have to argue, this becomes who you are and this will affect you mentally and emotionally in a way that is deep. Where is this how you wanna spend the next 20, 30 years of your life?

No.

Where you're arguing?

No, I don't.

Y'all are not married yet and thank God. So you don't have to go through the legal things of this. But I do think y'all need to have a real conversation about yes, in the beginning, there was love, but then somewhere along that line, things broke down.

Okay, well, it's been 4 years.

4 years.

I'm done.

I'm done.

Well, what's going through your mind? 'Cause I know that's hard for you to say.

He really is?

'Cause I know you love him. Yeah. I know you do. That's why y'all been fighting for this. Yes. Because y'all love each other. But you shouldn't have to fight for love. Tell me what's going on in your mind. What's going on in your mind?

4 years I've been dealing with this.

Yeah.

But I love this man. I know. And it hurt deep.

So I appreciate your bravery to admit that this was not good and that you need better. And yes, I know there's some love here. I know, yes, y'all support each other in some ways. And so what I would encourage you to do is hold onto this strength, hold onto this place you're in, and find the courage for y'all to figure out how to separate amicably. And then for you, sir, there's something about the way that you are interacting with your own things that shows a little bit about your self-worth and what you deserve. The fact that I'm hearing that in your apartment, you are the first to destroy your own things shows there's a bit about worth there. Because if I feel like I'm worthy of these things, I'm never gonna destroy them. And that's why it's confusing to me that you keep destroying your own things, which shows there's some healing you need to do even at 59. I'm gonna be real with you.

I got you.

Yeah, I wish y'all the best of luck, all right?

Thank you, brother.

All right, all right, thank you everyone for being with us. Make sure to come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking and we can keep growing. I do love you all.