In this segment of the Karamo talk show, three women—Patsy, Speaker B, and Speaker D—confront each other over a serious dispute in which Patsy accuses the others of being involved in setting her shop on fire. Speaker B vehemently denies any involvement, calling Patsy’s claims false and accusing her of acting like an actress. Speaker D expresses a desire to forgive and move on, even invoking a higher spiritual perspective. Host Karamo attempts to steer the conversation toward reconciliation, asking whether each party can genuinely offer forgiveness and let go of the hurt, betrayal, and lingering pain. The dialogue devolves into a back‑and‑forth about control, bossiness, and personal accountability, with each participant defending their behavior and questioning the other's motives. The segment ends without a clear resolution, highlighting the emotional intensity and the challenges of restoring trust after alleged betrayal.
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Patsy, do you think now that there's ever a reason to salvage this relationship, especially after this?
Well, sir, at this point, she doesn't want it. So anything that's not wanted, you don't chase. Okay, thank you. I didn't call her here for that. I called her here to let her know and let you all know, for sure her, I don't have no need or reason to burn your house, your shop down. I never said you did. Girl, you're lying. You're a good actress. I never said you did. Y'all should give her an Emmy for her performance. She's a hell of an actress.
I never said Patsy is the one who burned my shop. You did just say. I said you had something to do with it. Still, you said I had something to do with it. Curiosity because you talk about it. Every time I see you, you bring it up. Every time I see you, it makes me think and feel that way.
I would like to give you ladies my resolution. I know you came on this show with the intention of maybe not only clearing your name, but also salvaging a relationship. And I don't think that's gonna happen. We obviously—
Well, let me say this, Karamo.
So hold on, hold on. I wanna know because I know there is betrayal. Girl, I can't feel the love. I don't know. When she come around, the love be in my presence.
When she leave me, she act like this around me. I don't get it.
But—
I don't get it. Love don't work like that. Love is for real.
The only thing I wanna get from this situation— And I love her, but I can love God more, so I'm okay. Is forgive this whole, forgive this whole slate. Okay, but— Forgive it. Put it behind me. But this is the thing.
What I do think is if you actually do believe that you want forgiveness, can you turn to her and say, I don't, that like we can forgive each other and be apart? And then can you do the same for her? Because there's hurt there. There's pain, there's betrayal. That whether it's clouded in a lot of things that are unclear, but if we can come to a place of forgiveness to say, you know what, whatever you said and I said, I forgive you, you forgive me, let's move on and just know that we never have to bring this up again. Can you do that for each other at least?
Fuzzy, I forgive you and let's move on. Give me a hug. Look at you all bossy. Come on.
You always bossy.
I am, I'm a boss.
You always wanna control everything. I am, that's how I do life.
