You Disappeared For 45 Days, Unlock Your Phone! | KARAMO

In this episode of KARAMO, host Karamo mediates a volatile dispute between married couple Chyna and Larry, who have been together for 13 years (8 years married). The conflict began when Chyna wanted to attend a backstage play with a male friend, leading Larry to leave the home for 45 days. Accusations of infidelity, a mysterious "bacterial infection" gift, and daily mistrust surface. Both parties claim they have examined each other's phones; Larry brings all devices for a forensic check, while Chyna also provides her phone. Karamo employs an "Unlock the Phone" investigator to examine photos, messages, apps, and deleted data. The investigation finds no explicit photos on Larry’s phone and no evidence of cheating, but uncovers AI‑generated songs about a bad marriage. When Chyna’s phone is examined, investigators discover a 5‑month‑old sexual message to an unknown man, which Chyna claims is a family member. Throughout, Karamo offers relationship counseling, emphasizing communication, written emotional expression, and trust. The episode ends with both parties apologizing, reaffirming love, and Karamo promoting his wellness app that includes fitness, nutrition, meditation, sobriety, and relationship tools.
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So what gift did Larry bring back?
A bacterial infection.
A bacterial infection?
Yes.
Mm-hmm, okay. That don't sound like a gift to me, girl. So from your perspective, why did Larry leave for so long?
We had an argument because I wanted to go with a friend to a backstage play.
Okay.
And I didn't think anything of it.
Yeah.
I thought it would be fine.
Yeah, of course.
He didn't.
And so he was upset.
So one thing led to another, we disrespected each other and he left for 45 days.
But 45 days for a disagreement about where I want to go for an evening with friends seems a bit excessive.
It was another male.
It was another male.
Mm-hmm.
Got it. So because you wanted to go to a play with another male, he felt threatened by that?
He pretty much said it was disrespectful to our marriage.
Okay. Do you believe Larry was with another woman while he was gone?
I do.
You do. And how long had you and Larry been together?
13 years, 8 years married.
13 years together. Okay then. And when did you first suspect that Larry was cheating?
From the very beginning.
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow. So why you get married?
Well, actually, Larry was married previously. His background was basically that he cheated for an extensive amount of time, which was 2 years. And she never knew it. Of course, I'm looking like, what make you think it wouldn't happen to me?
Yes, of course. That still didn't answer my question, why you got married?
Oh, actually, because he accepted me for who I am.
Got it, okay.
Yes.
Okay, they so judgmental, you saw that? They was sticking their teeth.
I know.
We've been together.
We were together in elementary school. This was my first boyfriend, my first kiss.
Wow.
And we reunited after his—
So there's that history for you.
Correct.
How did you find out that Larry had been texting another woman?
Of course I went through his phone.
Yeah. Do you suspect Larry is still hiding things from you?
I do.
You do? Okay then. So what happened when you came back from a business trip?
I went on a business trip for 3 days and he called me and wanted to know what time I was coming back. I let him know what time I was coming back. I returned to the house and he was fully dressed and he's like, "Oh, I have to go to the emergency room." I'm like, "All right, well I'll go with you." He went back in the room and then he was like a little hesitant and he seemed a little nervous. So of course the energy was off for me and it's just like, Hey, as soon as I walk in the door, you have to go somewhere? And so he was like, you know what, should I take a shower before I go? No, I shouldn't take a shower. So then he comes back and I was like, I knew something was off. If you didn't want me to go, say that. So he walks out the door, he says, no, I don't want you to go with me. So I'm like, well, why don't you want me to go with you? And he really doesn't respond. So he closed the door in my face and I'm like, all right, well I'll just leave too. He comes back in, he slams the door and he pushes me. So of course right then and there I'm just like, what's going on with him? Like something is off. So.
And what happened? What did he say?
That I'm just frustrated, I'm angry. You know, he was stressed. I'm not sure why. I was gone for 3 days. You should be happy to see me once I return home.
When did the disrespect start?
I'll say in the beginning.
In the beginning, okay.
Yeah, he was, I was his friend during his divorce and separation.
Got it.
I'm the one that called the show. I brought my work laptop, my personal laptop, and all cell phones because I want them to check every single thing to show I'm not hiding anything. I'm an open book. I'm transparent. I'm a good dude too.
Okay.
Okay.
You brought it all.
Brought it all.
Okay then. So, well, we'll put this stuff away real quick.
He always says, if there's not any evidence or any proof, then he didn't do anything.
Yeah. Here, I'm gonna put 'em in the bag 'cause, you know, if you want us to check it, we gonna check it. You know I'm nosy. I wanna understand everything.
Wow. Was that necessary?
All right, listen, how often would you say Chyna's accusing you of cheating?
It seem like every day.
Mm-hmm.
Every day. If I walk outside and there's females around or if the neighbor leave the same time I do, I'm getting accused.
Yeah.
Oh, y'all must have like text each other or y'all trying to link this link up or something like that.
Yeah, it seems like a coincidence.
And she like, oh, it can't be a coincidence. It is, we live in an apartment complex. You know how many people leave the same time that I do? And come back the same time that I do?
Yeah.
Absolutely not.
Okay.
If we're you and I, we gonna find out. We most definitely gonna find out.
What kind of things is she accusing you of? Just sleeping with other people?
Texting, emailing, meeting up with different females. She even went like one time, because the type of work that I do, I work with families. He text me that, you know, Larry, look, like you mean the world to me. She sees it and say, "That's a little strange." As if I'm sleeping with the man.
That is not true. That is so not true.
Oh, it's true.
That is not true.
Well, let me ask you this, 'cause you said you left for 45 days. Did you leave for 45 days?
Yes.
And where did you go?
I went to my sister's house.
Okay then.
Was it your sister's house?
They all look at you.
Was it your sister's house?
Because look, you—
And he sent me back my cell phone and his wedding band. So of course, why didn't I think that he was somewhere else?
Listen, if I'm talking to you and I'm telling you that it's disrespectful for you to come to me and say that you're gonna go out on a date with an old friend that you was sexually involved with and you not—
Oh, sexually involved?
Yeah, she not gonna say that.
This is extremely old and it was just a friend. That was old.
So no, we was at the little dance.
But if you were involved, were you sexually involved with this friend before?
Years ago, when I was younger.
If you did the nasty, you not friends, you love her.
I will tell you this, I actually agree with you. I agree with you because like in a marriage, if you're going to have friends with someone you were a lover, you had sexual intercourse with, I feel like for me, and this is not insecurity talking, this is just outta transparency, I'd want to be involved. Because if there was a sexual relationship before, then I want to know how are you two interacting with each other? Could it happen again?
He didn't ask those questions.
Got it. Did you give Chyna a bacterial infection?
What?
She said she got a gift from you, a bacterial infection.
When you returned after those 45 days, what happened?
During those 13 years that we've been together, I've been having a lot of sex. She went to the doctor and they said that she had some bacterial, but I was sitting in there and the doctor told her, said, "Your body is changing, like you're in your 40s now." Yeah. "You're not 25 years old, your body is changing." I look 25, right?
You do look 25.
Your body is changing. Listen, the doctor told her the exact same thing. Your body is changing.
And that's his way out.
Okay, lemme ask you this. So we understand the 45 days you left because of the argument.
Yep.
And then you went to your sister's house and you're saying during that time you also gave the ring back because you were done.
And I gave the cell phone back.
Yep. Okay, and you gave the cell phone back 'cause you were like done.
Got a whole new number and a whole new cell phone. And he called me from a TextNow number.
I don't do remixes, reruns, or recaps. When I'm done with you, I'm done with you. That's it. You know, I know my worth, I know my value.
And so do I.
That's fine. But what I'm saying is, is that, you know, like this women intuition stuff, let's think about it.
It's accurate. It's accurate.
But it's always something negative.
Invalidation.
You don't have an intuition that you got a good man in your life? It doesn't make sense. You know, like you're right.
Most of the time when I hear women say about their intuition, it's always about something negative. Something negative. You never hear that they have an intuition that the man that I'm with, if he could be doing something good, it could be positive. And so in this sense, you're saying her intuition is off because you are doing nothing wrong.
Nothing at all.
And you're tired of the accusation.
Tired, frustrated.
Why were you texting with another woman under a man's name?
It was the woman's husband. And what ended up happening is like she got my number from one of the guys up front.
Answer the question.
In the office. And she texted me.
Why were you texting with her and it wasn't him?
She text me and said, "Hey look, I need this order picked." Listen, I can't—
She texted and said, "Hey, what are you doing tonight? When are we going out?" This was later on. "Why don't you come out and go out with us?" No, this—
But who is us? Her and her husband.
But you're like, "No, this is an order." She texted from her husband's phone, and then when they did invite, they invited us. It wasn't just like— I mean, not you. Absolutely not. Yeah, but you to be with them, so they wouldn't—
She was texting his phone and calling his phone, and he wouldn't respond to certain things because he knew exactly what it was.
I didn't respond because, you know, like I told you, I was talking about us going out and everything.
When I confronted you, you lied about it. I appreciate that. So you didn't respond? No, I didn't.
I didn't respond.
Yes, got it. Why did you want Chyna to go to the emergency room with you?
Prior to her leaving to go to work for those 3 days, we got into this big argument with her accusing me again. And you gotta understand, like, you keep accusing me and accusing me, I'm frustrated. Now, you know, like, I don't wanna leave to go to the emergency room with her not being there because when she look, 'cause she stays on her camera, she look and she see that I leave the house.
You're changing the subject, not answering my question.
I'm gonna answer it. So when I leave, she always like, "Well, what are you up to? What are you up to?" And I tell her all the time, if she don't have eyes on me, it's an issue. So I didn't want her to go with me and everything because I was fed up with it. She could start arguments and 5 minutes later she said, "Well, baby, let's go have sex." I'm very emotional. This is real stuff. I'm very emotional. I can't speak for no other man, but if you make me feel some kind of way, I don't wanna have sex. I'm just not gonna be there. Listen, listen, we talk, we talk.
I'm glad you brought that up 'cause we talk about women's worth and self-worth and the fact that you're saying like, if we're gonna have an argument, I don't wanna lay with you. I can understand that. Listen, we have camera footage from that day from your camera. Can we see this? I wanna look at this.
Literally waited till I got back to go.
Yeah. Yeah. I know it don't feel good to you.
And that's why I said when you asked me, oh, you on your way home, like, so what he gotta go— what he gotta do? Because I can stay out a little longer if you want to, you know.
See, that's why I keep trying to tell you, because you think that's good. That's why I'm going—
look what's going on.
I'll take myself, man. I'm telling you because I don't want you questioning.
No, but look, now what's going on?
Way too much stress going on in my life. Okay, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't be wanting that, man.
I don't have time for that.
Right, right.
Or I could've stayed out. I could've.
Stop it.
At the end of the day, like I said, I already felt like you had shit you wanted to do. You wait till I get here to go do it. What does that look like? I was right. I don't know what happened soon as I got home. We were good.
We weren't good.
Okay, what kind of things have you done to prove your innocence?
We went to a palm reader. I paid for that. I paid for the Life360. So that she has like my location. Not just that and everything, like her face and her fingerprint always unlocks my phone. I tell her all the time, anytime you wanna switch phones, don't even tell me, just grab my phone and go. I don't care.
Why?
Because I know that I'm not doing anything.
So you have access with your fingerprint and everything to his phones?
I do. We both have access to each other's devices.
Okay then, I think it's time. To unlock the phones.
Unlock, unlock, unlock.
Larry, we unlocked your phone. All right, Chyna, you wanna know if Larry has been sending or receiving any explicit photos. He says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his photos and found that Larry is telling the truth.
Boy, man.
Come on now.
China, you wanna know if Larry has been calling or texting any other women. He says he has not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his phone and found that Larry is telling the truth.
It's your boy. Come on.
China, you wanna know if Larry has any hidden or deleted apps. He says he does not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his apps and found that Larry It's telling the truth.
Picture this.
I apologize, I'm sorry.
So the only thing our investigator was able to find on his apps were several requests for an AI to create songs about a bad marriage.
That's what I do. I got several like them and they, yeah, they fire. They fire.
I know AI is killing it. They fire.
Accusations, and I'm definitely sorry.
I, I didn't hear you.
Yeah, I do apologize to you, and I love you, and I'm sorry for accusing you of all those things.
It's okay, you must— you still my sexy baby.
Okay then, China, we unlocked your phone. All right, Lara, you want to know if China is texting any other men. She says she is not. When I unlocked the phone, investigators searched her texts and found that Chyna— Are you ready to unlock your best self? Key is my new wellness app made for you. Fitness, nutrition, meditation, sobriety, better relationships, self-love. 6 keys, 1 app. Change starts today. Is telling the truth. Larry, you wanna know if Chyna is sending any explicit photos to other men. She says she is not. My locked phone investigator searched her photos and found that China is telling the truth. Larry, you wanna know if China's been communicating with any men on social media. She says she is not. My locked phone investigator searched her DMs and found that China is not telling the truth. We found 72 messages between China and another man With the most recent being from 5 months ago. But the sexy message was from 2022. So she has one from 5 months ago, but this was, "I want some, can I come over for dinner? You still as sexy, all things." So that is within the 8 years you two were married? Yeah. And you're still in communication 5 months ago?
Not even sure who that is. This is from 2023.
Yeah, but there's—
So 5 months, oh, 2022.
But there's one that, you have from 5 months ago?
I'm not even sure.
Okay, so who were you talking to 5 months ago?
Not even sure.
Okay. I watch the show all the time, so I know they got it.
Oh yeah, we got the proof. The name is. Oh, that's—
Oh, okay, that's a family member.
Oh, that's your family member. Okay, good, okay, good. Listen, we just find it, okay? We don't know. But 5 months ago, that's when you were still communicating on social media.
That's my family.
Okay, so this was the only one that was sexual in nature or in sexy in nature.
Yeah, tell me you still sexy.
Yeah.
And then on my part is like, yeah, I was married before, like I would never cheat on my wife.
Yeah.
Never.
Well, this is the unfortunate part is that when you were transparent with her about what you did, you unfortunately have used that as ammunition to assume that your husband has been doing things on you and it has snowballed into consistent disrespect, a lack of patience for each other. And now you just at wit's end because of a moment where he was trying to be vulnerable with you and tell you what I did and that triggered insecurity. And so the unfortunate part of that is because for now 8 years now, y'all, we clearly have checked every phone, y'all not doing anything and now y'all are having these arguments about what happened here, what happened there. That were unnecessary. So you gotta get back to the foundation. You gotta look at your wife and tell her exactly what you just said. And when he tells you this time that he's not cheating on you, you gotta believe him. Tell your wife.
I'm not cheating on you. I would never cheat on you. I apologize for ever disrespecting you and calling you out your name, things like that. To hell with everybody else. Let's keep riding.
I love you. Thank you.
The advice that I got for you is that the next time you feel some insecurities popping up, the next time you're frustrated by any type of repeat of narratives that are coming up, any stories that are coming up, instead of y'all arguing the moment like I just witnessed, what y'all gonna say right there is, please use these exact words. Karamo said write it down. And what you're gonna do is you're gonna write it down, what you're feeling in the moment. And I don't need a 4-page letter. You gonna write down exactly what it is and you gonna write down what it is and then you're gonna give it to the other person. And give y'allself a timeline, 5 hours, 6 hours, whatever it is, and then you come back. What it does is it gives you all as a couple enough time to be able to process what the other person is feeling and come with calm, clear emotions and not feeling erratic, okay? Listen, and if you gonna write some songs, don't write no breakup songs. Write a song on telling my wife I love her, okay? We don't have— That's what we need. We got enough breakup songs out there, okay? Seriously. You wanna kiss your husband? You wanna kiss your wife and tell her you love her?
Perfect, good.
On my show, I unlock phones. And now, I wanna unlock your best self. You need someone to talk to who will listen and give real advice with no judgment. That's what Karamo AI does. Text me, call me, download Key, and let's start talking and growing.
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