You Got 2 Women Pregnant At The Same Time? | KARAMO

Zach got another woman pregnant the day after he said he was gonna be faithful?

Yes. Oh my gosh. Okay, so we been going, well, we've been dating for almost 8 years and he said that he was gonna be faithful to me and we was gonna work on ourselves and next day, the woman got pregnant. He got the woman pregnant the next day.

Next day.

Next day.

Was that the first time he had gotten a girl pregnant?

No, no, no, no, no.

That's not the first time.

No, so.

I'm sorry to laugh, girl, but I'm like, really? 'Cause sometimes the audacity, right? The audacity.

Jeez, it's a lot. So the first time was when I was actually pregnant. I was 6 months pregnant with our first child.

I'm sorry.

I found out because the girl FaceTimed me. I went to his job and I told him, if he don't come out, I'm coming in. And long story short, he hit me. We got to fight at his job outside in the parking lot. Pregnant. I went to the car, grabbed the club. I grabbed that club, showed it, and I just went to work.

That's what you did?

I just went to work. The security guard came.

Yeah.

Jesus, and he was crying. Oh, she did this to me, take her. No. Yeah. What did you do?

I can understand the hurt and the pain. I really can, I really can. I mean, all the violence aside, you know, I never recommend that, but I can understand why you would feel like you wanna get to that place. And I can understand that pain.

And he always, ooh, he's a very good manipulator. So he manipulates me all the time, but he says I'm the manipulator, but that's not true.

Got it, got it. So how many kids do you two have?

So we have in total between mine and his, 9.

9.

But together we have 2.

2, okay, 2 kids together. Why y'all so judgmental? Right? We listen and we don't judge, okay? Has cheating been an issue for y'all from the very beginning?

Day one.

Day one.

He was living with another woman when me and him got together.

Oh.

It was his friend.

So you just thought they were friends, but you didn't think they were in a relationship?

It was supposed to be a man he was living with, but it was actually his baby mother.

Got it. Wow. If he was lying to you from day one, what made you stay?

You want the real answer?

Yes.

And it's like, that's horrible, right? Oh geez.

Girl.

It happens, girl. It happens, girl. It happened. So he, she said, okay. Okay, so tell me about the time you saw Zach in a car with another woman.

Okay, so he didn't know, but I put a tracker in his car. So I pull up to his location 'cause he was supposed to be at his mom's house I'm taking a nap, pull up to the location, and when I get there, I'm like, "Ah, is he in this car?" 'Cause I can't see, his tint is very dark. Long story short, I get out the car and I see in the front windshield him and another woman. The woman is laughing and I'm like, "Get her out that car! Get her out that car! Put her out!" I tried to get her out the car, but I was going to do it through the front windshield. So I start busting that front windshield like, "Because you don't want her to get out the door, so I'm gonna take her through this window." So why did you want her to get out?

Why not him?

Because he needs to, he gotta go to work. You can get out the car. You can get out the car. And in the process of me on that window, busting the window, this man became a professional driver.

Yeah.

He put that car in reverse. And when I'm telling you, he went back, turned. I'm still on the car window like, "Oh no, get out the car." She's smiling. He throws me off the car. Like, he hit one hard turn.

Oh my gosh.

And it hurt my feelings because it's like—

Yeah.

Because it's like, I flew off the car.

Yeah, yeah.

When I'm telling you, when I flew off that car, my body scraped up. He didn't stop. He didn't look at me. He didn't check up on me. He just drove off into the sunset and went, dropped her off. 'Cause my location on my phone just dinging. He's going here, going here. And then he end up at the police station. I end up at the police station too. I end up going to jail.

For?

Because?

Because you didn't assault anyone.

No, no, no. What he said, what he told them that I vandalized his vehicle. And then that wasn't me. It wasn't.

What was the air quotations for? 'Cause you did vandalize his vehicle. 'Cause you did this as if this was like allegedly. It wasn't me.

It was Jessica. Jessica did it.

It wasn't me. Oh, Jessica. Jessica, y'all's the personality? Okay.

Jessica did it, but it wasn't me. So he called the girl to give a statement on me, which made me go to jail. You were cheating though. And I went to jail because both of their stories aligned.

Okay, and how long— You and your alleged girlfriends, okay.

'Cause it wasn't me, it wasn't.

That was Jessica, I understand, it wasn't you. So let me just clarify because I have counted two. So how many girls has he gotten pregnant while y'all been together? Two. Just the two?

Yes.

Okay, okay.

Yep. So the first time when I was pregnant with our son and then recently.

Recently.

Right.

Okay, got it.

So we was supposed to be getting married in April, either April 5th or April 12th, but we're not doing that no more.

Okay.

Because the baby due date was April 10th. Who's my— No, uh-uh, shit.

You're not getting married?

Give me something else.

Yes, okay then. What will happen when we find something in Zach's phone today? 'Cause that's why we're here.

I'm done, I'm done, I'm over it. I'm tired of it. Like the insecurities, I'm over it.

Okay, you told our Unlock the Phone investigators you wanted to know if Zach is communicating with any other women. You want to know if he's talking to anybody. You wanna see if there's any photos. Okay, well I think it's time to hear what Zach has to say about all this. So everyone please welcome Zach to the show.

Hey guys.

How you doing, Zach?

What's going on?

Nice to meet you. How you doing?

I'm good, strong.

How do you feel about what you just heard?

Yo, you, bro.

What?

Talk.

It's true.

It's true?

Yeah.

It's all true?

Yeah.

Okay.

Besides the—

He said, I'm not even gonna deny it. It's all true.

I ain't gonna lie. But the first baby situation when the girl got pregnant, she know damn well that's not my child. And it is.

It is. It most definitely is.

Have you gotten a DNA test?

No, we didn't, but I tried to.

You could have called us.

I mean, hey.

We need you.

We need you.

We could have solved that too while we was here. So you're saying that one is not potentially yours, but what about the second woman that she said?

No, and the other girl ended up paying for the abortion.

Couldn't pay for nothing for his kids, for school and everything. He didn't do nothing for them because he had to go get an abortion.

I'm paying child support first though.

I'm paying child support and I'm—

Okay, did she have the abortion?

Yeah.

Okay.

I went with her when she went to go get it done.

Got it. And so then that means there's a third woman because you have a third woman that's actually about to have a baby that you said you were gonna be faithful and then she got pregnant, correct?

No, no, that's the same one who had the abortion. And when she had the abortion, that due date lies in the month we was supposed to get married. And actually we was supposed to be pregnant at this time. Like I was pregnant.

Oh, so she's not having the baby?

Nope.

No.

Okay, but you're upset because that's where I was confused because I thought this woman was actually going through with the pregnancy. Taking the full term. So she's had an abortion and so now, but for you it's just the fact of knowing that that would've been the child's due date.

Right, like, no, I'm not about to do that. I can't do it. I'm not gonna do it.

Got it, got it, got it. Why do you think Nefi is cheating on you now?

She does the same things that I was doing when I was cheating. We don't get as much, we don't spend as much time with each other. We don't, like you hide your phone a lot.

Because you're pushing me away by accusing me, you wanna search through my stuff. I'm not your child.

Do you think she's cheating on you now to get back at you?

Yeah.

You do?

Yep.

Okay. Yeah. Well, I think it's time to unlock the phone. So Zach, we unlocked your phone. All right, so ready? Mm-hmm. Nephew, you wanna know if Zach is communicating with any other women. Zach said he is not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his texts and found that Zach is telling the truth. We didn't find any messages between him and anyone else. My locked phone investigator also searched his DMs and found that Zach is telling the truth there. We didn't find any contact between him and any other women. And my locked phone investigator searched his phone and found that Zach is telling the truth. He's not communicating with any other women. So you wanna tell us about the phone that you brought us?

No.

Hmm?

The phone, what phone? What phone you bring?

What phone did I bring? I'm confused. I'm confused. Not like for real.

What phone did you bring to give to us? Tell us about your phone.

Oh, my phone?

Yeah. Tell us about your phone.

Tell us about your phone. I'm confused. Like, what do you mean?

Tell us about the phone you brought for us.

What phone did you bring to them so they can unlock? I hope it wasn't one of the kids' phones.

No.

I only brought my phone. Like, I don't know.

Okay.

'Cause what he does is he thinks I'm doing stuff with the kids' phone.

You was doing it, you was doing it before. You was doing it before.

Okay. Mm-hmm. All right, so—

I asked her to, nevermind, go ahead.

Huh?

Yeah, what were you asking? I was asking her to bring the kids' phones, but she wasn't.

Okay.

Because I know that she—

So—

Well, I just got that feeling.

So tell us about the phone you brought.

My phone, I only brought my phone.

Okay. All right. Yeah, well, the phone that he brought came up with zeros.

Okay.

All right, so Neffy, we unlocked your phone next. All right, Zach, you wanna know if Neffy is being unfaithful. Neffy says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her apps and found that Neffy is not telling the truth. She currently has 3 dating apps on her phone.

What?

Yes.

No, that ain't me.

Okay.

3? No, I don't.

Uh-huh.

I don't got 3.

You have 3. Zach, you wanna know if Nefi is talking to anyone. Nefi says she's not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her texts and found that Nefi is not telling the truth. She recently deleted texts from someone. Okay.

That wasn't me.

That wasn't you?

Most definitely wasn't.

All right, Zach wants to know if Nefi is talking to any other men. Nefy says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her phone and found that Nefy is not telling the truth. She also deleted two other conversations with men in the past three months.

Uh-uh, that wasn't me. That was him. I could tell y'all about that. That was him. It was most definitely him. He, I got a man that I'm with.

What about the texts though? Like, fuck, fuck, fuck. Like the texts with—

Fuck, fuck, fuck is in prison. I can't text him.

So I'm gonna tell you something.

No, the one that's on the phone too with him.

I'm gonna tell you something.

Weird.

You said earlier that he treats me like a child and your response was that he treats me like a child. And both of you act like children. Both of you are very immature. You know it, you know it.

Just a little bit.

But something even that's, something that's even more disturbing to me, and this is honest, especially with you two having 9 kids, is you both are addicted to toxic behavior. And I think that people only look at addictions through alcohol lens, through drugs, we don't realize that we can be addicted to a certain type of behavior as well. And sometimes we find comfort in a certain behavior, same way you'd find comfort in a drug because of something, the way we were raised, because of the behavior that was modeled for us as children, because that was like the home environment we were in. And so we find comfort in chaos. You two are in a space where you have found someone who's equally addicted to the same thing you like to be addicted to. There's a reason that certain couples will get together and they'll both be addicted to a certain drug they'll both be addicted to a certain lifestyle, alcohol, it's because they both enjoy it. And so you found a partner and it takes someone to say that and recognize that this is unhealthy. And the fact of the matter is that both of you are addicted to this and you don't realize that this addiction is going to affect those children dramatically. When she was on top of your car and she was banging on that window and you, hit the turn, if your children's mother would've died in that moment because of she fell off and slipped on her neck wrong, you know, you might not be going that fast, but accidents happen.

No, he was.

So even worse, you were going that fast. Mm-hmm. She would've died and now your children would've been left without a mother and you would've been in jail. I wanna know what would it have been like for you when you're just sitting there sitting in jail thinking about their mother who's deceased.

Thinking that why I didn't stop the car. If I stopped the car, I mean, they're thinking why I didn't open the doors. If I stopped the car, she—

So hold on, here we go. It's not even about why you didn't stop the car. What I'm trying to paint that scenario for you is why am I even in this relationship? Why am I doing this? So are you gonna be able to fully walk away?

I can, I most definitely can.

But do you want to?

Yeah, I really do. Like something gotta give. Like you said, the kids are suffering.

And I'm not questioning either of y'all on parents. I have not even said that, but I can tell y'all that the effects of what you all are doing are gonna have major effects on these kids. I don't know how y'all was raised. Similar?

Well, see, my mom had a lot of kids, so I'm one of 13.

Okay, but was there chaos in the house?

Of course.

There was chaos. Was there chaos in your house growing up? So like I said before, without even knowing it, you grew up in environments where you think chaos is normal, but y'all can break that cycle. Do you wanna break the cycle?

I am gonna break the cycle.

You are gonna break the cycle. Do you wanna break the cycle?

No, but like I'm not finna force it neither.

He ain't gonna have me. See, that's real. Did y'all see that? I'm not finna force it. That's real. And so with that, I do wish you the best of luck and I know it's gonna be difficult, because the man that you're with is not ready for that yet. But I need you to understand that those children are, their lives, their future, their sanity, their security is at stake. Yeah. All right everyone, thanks for being with us. Make sure to come back next time, Fred, so we can keep talking and growing. I love you all. I asked that man if he wants to break the cycle for his children's sake and he said no. Did y'all hear that? That's the saddest thing. He has 9 children and I asked if you wanna break the cycle for your children and he said no. And then when I asked her if she wanted to leave, she said, "I don't know." And that's the part. What you saying? What you about to say? It's sad, right? It's sad. Children involved, 9. And your response is that. That just breaks my heart to feel anyway. I wish her the best of luck, right? That's it.