You Lied About Being Pregnant Last Time, That's Not My Baby! | KARAMO

Why is L denying your baby?

I think he's denying my baby because he just doesn't want to take accountability for being a father to my baby.

What is your history with him?

We've been together for 10 years.

10 years, wow.

On and off.

10 years on and off, okay. You're 31?

Yes.

So this is like a young love.

Yes.

Yeah, okay, so my producer told me this and I, I need to ask you directly. Did you fake a pregnancy before by him?

No, I did not.

You did not?

No.

Okay then. Okay then. So why would he say that?

So he's saying that because I was pregnant initially and we were together and we were in a relationship and everything was fine. We got into a disagreement and he disappeared for 9 months. He came back asking about the baby and I told him, we actually met up and I told him, what happened with the baby. I unfortunately had a miscarriage.

Okay.

And he doesn't believe me.

Got it, got it. So what did he say when you told him that you were pregnant this time?

Oh, he told me that I should go to the shelter. Now I can go to the shelter and get my apartment. Mm-hmm.

So his response to you being pregnant is to say you can go into a shelter?

Yeah, and if it was his.

And denied it. Mm-hmm. Okay. Is his family involved in your fights?

Yes, actually we had a, recent argument a couple months ago and he was on the phone with his mother and his mother was amping him up in the argument and it was mostly because he doesn't believe that my son is his and she was on the other end saying, yeah, I don't believe that the baby's yours and just amping it up.

So I know y'all have been on and off for 10 years. Has he been talking to other women during that time?

I think so, yes.

You do think so? Okay then. And was he talking to other women while you were pregnant?

Yes.

He was? My best guess. Okay. And what happened when your baby was born?

Well, he actually drove me to the hospital. He was there, his mother was there. She asked if she could be in the delivery room and I agreed that she could be in the delivery room. And he was there, his mother was there and everything seemed fine.

So, 'cause this is my question though, because if there was doubts about paternity, they could have requested a DNA test right then and there.

I told him when I was pregnant, hey, if you think that the baby isn't yours, I could take a DNA test while pregnant so that the doubts don't even, the baby doesn't have to be born in doubt. You can know before the baby's even born. And he disagreed, he said no.

And why did he need his mom there? Just because she wanted to be part of the birth?

I guess 'cause she wanted to be part of the birth.

But if she's denying the baby too, why would she wanna be part of the birth?

I think, Now I think that she just wanted to be there just to see if the baby looked like him.

Got it.

And to put in his ear that the baby wasn't his.

Got it. And how does he treat your son Judah?

It's like a hot and cold. Sometimes he's lovable and he's sweet to him and he plays with him and other times he denies him and says that he isn't his.

Got it. We have a video of little Judah.

Yes.

I wanna see him.

Mama, mama. Can you say mama's name?

Dada.

How that make you feel that you trying to say mama and he's like dada?

I've been trying to get him to say mama for a very long time. All he wants to say is dada.

My gosh. He calls your son, my producer told me, a tenant?

Yes, he calls him a tenant.

He calls your child a tenant?

He calls my son a tenant.

Why?

Because he thinks that it's not his and so he doesn't think that there's any responsibility attached to him living there. Me and my son living there is a favor instead of him being the father and taking responsibility.

So he says you were with someone else when you got pregnant, is that true?

That's not true. I was in a situationship before I got pregnant, but the things that we were doing, I couldn't get pregnant from.

Oh, okay, okay. Well, you clearly know. Well, I think it's time to meet L and hear his side of the story. So everyone, please welcome L to the show. Welcome, Mel.

Hey, how you doing?

I'm good, sir. So I gotta ask you, why don't you think her son is yours?

She's been lying a lot.

Okay.

I was backstage listening to her. She's lied throughout our relationship. Throughout the 10 years off and on relationship, she's been lying.

10 years I've been lying?

On and off, you feel like she's been lying?

I feel like she lies when it really counts.

What I lied about?

What you lied about? You lied about a whole baby.

I didn't lie about a baby.

You did.

No, I came back and I told you and we met up and we talked about the baby. So what are you talking about?

And I asked you what hospital you went to, room 112, you lied.

I did not tell you no room 112. You lied your ass off. I gave you exactly what information you needed to know. If you wanted to know more.

What I needed to know?

Exactly.

That's all you told me, what I needed to know.

If you wanted to know more information, you would've been there.

I was there.

You weren't there. We hadn't talked for like 9 months.

I'm only one call away. You could've got at me.

I shouldn't have to call you.

But how would I know? How would I know?

So when did you find out about the other potential father?

I found out after she was pregnant, after she told me the baby was mine, after she was like at my house every day living with me. She said she started living with me after the baby was born. That's not true. She was at my house every day while she was pregnant. I was taking her to doctor's appointments, driving her to doctor's appointments. I was there.

You were driving me to doctor's appointments? When the baby was here. But prenatal appointments, you didn't show up to not one.

I was always at her prenatal appointments.

You only showed up to the sonogram appointment.

So I only went one time.

One time.

She's a habitual liar. She's really lying.

Do you wanna be with her?

I do, but I want her to stop lying. I wanna know if the baby's 100% mine.

What was the um for?

Um, because she lies her ass off.

So you feel like you can't trust her?

No.

Okay then. Did you know he has trust issues with you?

Yes.

You didn't know that, okay. So where does the trust issues come from? Has she cheated?

It was like pulling teeth to find out about the first guy.

Okay.

She ain't tell me that originally, just straight up.

It wasn't your business to know.

All right, so has she cheated?

It is my business.

If you come up with a baby.

If I'm telling you that the woman.

You come up pregnant, I need to know.

Has she cheated?

Yeah, I believe she cheated.

No, I haven't.

Do you have any proof?

Her straight up telling me after pulling teeth.

Oh yeah.

I didn't tell you.

I was hanging out with him.

I was doing this, I'm doing that.

I told you I had a situationship and that was before you.

What's that?

What's a situationship? What's that?

A situationship, exactly what it meant.

What do you mean?

What it sound like. Sound like you was fucking someone else.

I wasn't fucking nobody.

That's what it sound like. So that's why I think the baby's not mine. I'm 30% sure, like, that's my baby.

30% sure?

30% sure.

So are you in a relationship with each other right now?

Yeah, I guess we together, yeah.

Okay, okay.

Yeah.

So tell me, do you really call your baby a tenant?

A tenant, yeah. My dad call me landlord. You know what I mean?

I know both of them. You only say that about my son.

Both of y'all. Just call both of them tenants.

No, you ain't never called my son— They both tenants. No, you haven't.

Sometimes I say visitor, guest. Depends on the vibe.

How many other kids do you have?

I have 4 other kids.

4 other kids. And you claim all them?

I claim all of them.

Exactly. You claim all of them except for mine.

Okay.

I don't, no.

So you take care of all them?

Yes.

But it sounds like you're taking care of this child.

I do.

Yes, but you just have doubts.

Yes.

So if you have doubts, why are you taking care of this child?

Because I think it's the— I have doubts, but I still had a relationship with her before the baby.

Got it.

For the time that things was good, I don't want her to feel like she's alone or be alone.

You got it. But I was alone even if he was there. You thinking that your being there isn't you being there if you're denying my son.

But I'm always there when you need me. I let you know and be honest. I told you I didn't believe he was mine. You know that. It's not like it was up in the air and I'm being funny with him. I'm straight up telling you I don't believe this baby's mine.

Did you really tell her to go to a shelter? I did. Why? You just said out of these 10 years you had love for her and all these things. That's why you take care of the baby. So why would you tell her to go to a shelter?

When she first told me that she was pregnant, Go to the show to do your thing. I didn't know the baby was mine until she told me, "Yo, this baby's yours." When I told you I was pregnant, that the baby was yours.

Have you ever cheated on her?

I cheated when I believed I was being cheated on, so I could be honest and say, "Yeah, I have." You cheated just because you like cheating, that's what it was. Nah, no.

'Cause you're a habitual cheater.

I'm not. At least I'm honest about mine.

Be honest about cheating. Be honest about it, though.

I told you I cheated. Why don't you be honest and tell me if the baby is mine or not?

The baby is yours.

Do you think your family interferes in this relationship?

Yes.

Yeah, my mom does.

Your mom does?

My mom is very vocal about things 'cause things are on front street in me and her relationship, it seems like. I don't necessarily like it.

Hold on, I'm getting a ping, Elle. I'm being told apparently your mom had something to say before the show, so let's take a listen.

Hello, Mr. Karamo. My name is Flavella Jones, and I'm calling to speak to you in reference to El Shaddai and to Jennifer. She claims that this child she has is his son. First of all, she's a habitual liar. She, uh, several years ago faked a pregnancy to the 8th month. For the whole 8 months, we didn't see her either. After the month, 8th month, we asked if she would send a picture of her stomach. She sent a picture of her stomach. Her belly, uh, was not protruding no longer than just being a fat stomach. So I explained to my son, that's a lie, she's lying. We don't understand why she did this, and we don't know to what extent she will go to. I would like to add that the little boy looks nothing like my son. My son has 4 other children and they favor him a great deal. So that's also why I don't believe the little boy is my son's child.

So your mother is saying that, your mother is saying that she faked the pregnancy.

Yes, 'cause that was, it's known that she did that.

I did not fake the pregnancy though. I could understand if you say, oh, I faked the pregnancy and I never gave you, and we never sat down and met up and I explained to you everything. Okay, but we met up, we talked, I laid it all out there. Like what more did you want?

How did that make you feel when you hear them, his mom say that?

I feel like she needs to mind her business. How can she say that's not his son, but you wanna be in the hospital? In the hospital and you wanna be in the delivery room with me.

And Elle, you agree with your mom, right?

I do.

Okay, okay. Well, I think it's time to get the DNA truth. Figure this out.

I agree.

In this envelope is the DNA truth. This is the truth you've been waiting for. You've been having your doubts. Elle, I see that leg going. That leg is going. You nervous right now?

Honestly, yeah, I am.

Yeah.

Very nervous.

Mm-hmm. You don't seem too nervous.

I'm ready 'cause I know exactly what it's gonna say.

Okay.

You are the father.

Okay. Well listen, this is your truth to open, not mine.

At this point, we can figure out exactly, we could put everything to bed. I could figure out if I still wanna be with you because you put me through a lot through these 10 years and I don't know. Do I really wanna be with you after you denied my son for 10 months after I told you that he was yours?

Let's see.

Before you open it up though, you got anything you wanna tell me?

Nope.

You sure?

I'm sure. I'm so sure. I'm ready to open it up right now.

I'm praying it is what it is, girl.

El, Judah is your biological son.

That's crazy.

Can we keep this?

Of course you can.

Oh, thank you.

'Cause I'm gonna blow it up.

Wow.

I mean, listen, I was praying too 'cause you was pumping up that story and I was like, if this come back, you was like this and that. I'm like, if this come back, girl, you done pumped up that story. So L, this is your child. This is not a tenant. This is your child. How do you feel?

I feel, wow, I feel crazy. I feel bad, truthfully, 'cause I denied him so much and so, Fervently, but I have to, you know, on TV today, apologize to you with my whole heart.

I love you.

I love you too.

Can you accept that apology? How does that make you feel?

It makes me feel sad because I don't think my baby deserves that. He didn't deserve it for the 10 months that he's been alive. He didn't deserve it. I didn't deserve it while I was pregnant with him. And I don't know how to feel. I feel relieved that he knows that he's the baby's father, but I don't know where we're going from here. I don't know if I should just forgive it and move on and be one big happy family or—

Well, I think that, I think first of all, it sounds like there was already great co-parenting, so that's the good part. So yeah, so you agree with that?

Yes.

So I think the first thing is you sitting down with your mother and your girl and saying, hey mom, "We gotta make sure that the way that you talk to her, the way that you interact with me when it comes to her, how you interact with our family is different." I'm definitely gonna do that.

I'm definitely gonna do that.

And I think that allows you to have a little bit of knowing that he's putting you and your child first.

I agree.

And I think that's a good first step for you to start to rebuild that trust and know that this man has your back. But y'all got a baby together, a cute baby at that. And he's already saying, "Dada." So you got him. He's already looking for that. I wish you all the best of luck, though. Good luck and congratulations.

Congratulations.