You Said I'm A Bad Mom & Only Know How to Have Babies! | KARAMO

It was supposed to be a fun night at karaoke, but shit got serious. Somebody punched somebody in the face. To this day, I still don't know the true story. Everybody's lying. Everybody pointing fingers at each other. We talking about karaoke. Ain't nobody supposed to be punched at karaoke. I did nothing wrong, but I'm paying the price. Charme a grown-ass woman. Gabby a grown-ass woman. And nobody don't want to own up to anything.

So what led to the confrontation between you and Charme at karaoke?

She skipped my song when I was gone, but I was right there. She claims she called my phone, but she didn't. She just be lying all the time. So when I get down there and I confront her, I walk away. When I walk away, you let me walk away, 'cause I am a fighter. But I chose not to fight. I walked away. She followed me, insulting me. Insulting me as a mom, telling me I'm weak, calling me dumb. And usually, I don't— like I said, I'm walking away. I walked across the street, came back. Then she tried to get me to— come back. And I'm like, why? She was saying stuff like, I'm a bad mom. All I know how to do is have babies. My guy don't care about me. All of this just because I think she's jealous. I feel like it's because I brung him down there. Me and her fell out over him.

Hold on, so you brought someone with you?

I brought my ex at the time.

Okay, you brought your ex.

We were dating at the time and I brung him with me. When I got in there, she did not speak to me. She was actually talking to Someone who's, she's smiling in their face after she was with their man too. So that's why I don't trust her. I stopped talking to her because of her texting my guy and not telling me what they were texting about. That's why I want her phone unlocked, cuz I wanna see what's in there, cuz I know she's lying.

So you think Charm has a history of—

Being the other woman. It's not the first time. To see how she interacted with the girl whose guy she was, that was our friend. And to see how she interacted with that girl after being with her man, it was just weird. And then the girl not know, like, how can you be like that?

Yeah. Is there some jealousy between you and Char?

It's definitely jealousy 'cause we fell out over a guy before.

Oh, okay.

So it had to be that.

So this has happened before?

Yes.

What happened before?

Well, when we were in high school, we used to throw parties and like everybody used to come over. We had turned up and this time her mom was home.

Yeah.

And she accused me of being in a guy's face or whatever, but the guy was in my face. The guy was in everybody's face. The guy even got with her own niece after that.

So does it upset you that your cousin wants to be friends with Charmaine?

It does. It upsets me a lot because I feel like we are family. Like, I get that she, my cousin, she holds on to relationships long, you know? And I be feeling like people are toxic, let them go. But she gives people so many chances, chances after chances. How many chances you need to see that this girl is a phony.

Like— Did you cut Charm off fully?

I cut her off. And that's why I feel like too, like, I cut her off. I even blocked her on social media and it hurt my feelings that she was even still friends with her on social media. And then my cousin telling me about everything that she's doing. I'm like, why?

Why do you wanna be in this?

Got it.

When was the last time you and Charm's communicated?

We ain't communicate since that.

And this was how long ago?

August of 2023.

Okay, August 2023. So it's been some months that y'all haven't talked. Okay then. So Gabby, you want Charm's phone unlocked and you told my investigator that you wanna know several things. If Charm has been meeting up with your ex.

Yes.

If Charm has been communicating with your ex via social media and you want to know Charm is communicating with your ex, period. Period. Yes. Okay then.

I feel like you're the jealous one.

You're the one projecting.

And I feel like it's ridiculous and I feel like What I went through with that other situation has nothing to do with her at all. And it's rumored that she messed with the same person too, but you're gonna expose me. I confessed to what I did, but it's rumors that y'all messed around too. No, they did not. Nobody had to tell me nothing. You actually— Excuse me, I don't know, but that's how you act. Excuse me, you and Erica told me— No, excuse me, Erica told me that I shouldn't even said nothing. I confessed. I didn't have to tell nobody what I did. I was ashamed of what I did. I confessed. I didn't have to say nothing. I didn't do nothing again. You say you big and bad, cuss me out and then block me. So I don't have no chance to get a rebuttal. I don't even get a chance to defend myself against what? I don't know, 'cause she creates shit in her head all the time. It's ridiculous. And this is new to me. I didn't even know she thought me and him had anything going on. I did not know this.

Yeah.

My mind is blown right now.

So in your mind, because she did say she feels like you have a history of doing this, being the other woman with guys. So from your point of view, you're saying this happened once.

This happened once. I'm usually in a relationship.

You confided in your friend and you feel like she's using it against you.

Yes, she is. She just did. That's bold. One time I made a mistake and I confessed to it.

Is that true, guys? How dare you? Is that true?

This is the problem.

Is this just one time has she been in a relationship?

I'm usually in a relationship. I've been married. She's never been in a relationship.

That's why I said she lost her mind after that first relationship.

I did, I did.

And she's been just different to me. She's been different ever since. She's just been different ever since she stopped.

I did, once me and my ex broke up, I was lost at the time. And I feel like you got into that. That one time though. She making it seem like I have a history of messing with people And what you mean like that don't got nothing to do with the situation?

It do, because I saw you smiling in your friend's face.

But me and her had a conversation. We had squashed the beef. Why you worried about we doing? She smiling in my face too after she did foul stuff to me. You don't know. You don't know about me and her squashing.

You don't tell nobody.

You don't let nobody know. Why would I tell you something? So you can go on Facebook and expose me again? No. Yes, I have reached a point where I stopped talking to you, Gabby.

I heard that, Charm, that you tried to back out of coming here today. Why was that?

Because I felt like they just wanted a show. They could have been came and talked to me, but after the karaoke thing, I was done. Because I'm like, this is, something is wrong here. 'Cause I didn't do anything. They have nothing to say other than what she just said. She think I'm messing with her man. That's what all this is based off of.

'Cause she don't tell me nothing. She don't sit there and say, oh, your guy was inboxing me.

So I don't tell you nothing, but I told you he was inboxing me. Exactly, but you ain't talk about the shit. Why you didn't ask me what he said? Why you didn't ask me what he said?

You sent a message to me, you never responded.

You never asked me what he said. I would have screenshotted this text with you.

Every problem we ever had, but you could never talk about that.

Never asked me what he said. You know it, Gabby. Can you ask me what he said? I said he in my inbox being weird.

You saying that every single time. She talks about everything with you except for this situation.

She don't talk about everything with me. I don't know her barely.

Okay.

All we do is do is, I feel like that's what we messed up. Our whole friendship was just fun, fun, fun. We was having fun, fun, fun. I don't know this.

Yeah, she is a lot of fun. Toxic people usually are.

So is your complaint that you wanted this relationship to be deeper?

I mean, I did. I feel like most of the time I was jealous because I felt like as friends, she'll always be putting us off like, oh, I don't feel good. Oh, I don't feel like this. But I'll see her posting pictures with other people. Just say you don't wanna fuck with me. Be real 'cause I'm real. Just say that.

You just said it.

There's never been a time where I didn't go nowhere with y'all and you saw me out drinking with somebody else. If I say I didn't feel good. Now the time that you referring to, I was drinking before I got there and I did get sick because I have a drinking problem. So I drank too much, so I canceled on them 'cause I'm like, I'm about to lay down. It's like they don't even seem to ask me what's going on. Why you drinking again after you said you were just sick the night before? Do you ask me that? No, but that's what it was. So yes, I had to cancel on y'all.

Have you ever asked her that?

Asked her what again?

About her health and her drinking?

She's being in denial. She is a liar.

I just said I got a drinking problem.

You say you got a drinking problem, but okay, yeah, but you not doing about it. So what I'm supposed to do?

I am trying to do something about it.

You're telling me that if she tells you how she feels, you feel as if it's like always fake.

She just making shit up. I feel like she be making stuff up.

And that's why I always feel dismissed from them. They feel like every time I open up to them, it's fake.

You have friends. Okay, I get that you drink, but why are you drinking? Why are you sad about it? What is it that's making you want to drink? What makes you feel like that? Why do you feel you need to do that? Why do you feel like you need to be with somebody else? Why you feel like— I don't know.

Like, I don't know. So you hear all these questions that you're asking?

Yes.

Have you ever asked those on the phone?

She don't. No.

We're gonna get to this later, but this is not to indict you or make you seem like the bad guy in this situation. What it is is to try to figure out how to support this friendship. So I just wanna make sure you hear that. It's not to call you out and make you seem like you're bad. But I do think it's time we meet the person who's in the middle of all of this.

I love both of them. I love both of them equally. You know what I'm saying? This blood, but I love her like blood too 'cause like I said, this my only friend I had. This like my sister. You know what I'm saying?

And—

Do you think that there's a possibility that Charm could have been doing anything with Gabby's ex?

Honestly, she did text and say her man text her and then left it on read for days. She never came back.

She didn't respond and say anything. The conversation continued after I said that. She didn't ask, but what is he saying? I just said he was being weird.

Well, if I'm not texting you, your texting me—

I mean, all I said was being weird. Then why not ask for it? Because in my mind, I'm not thinking that deep. Her ex is weird. He don't talk to people. Him just talking to me anyway is weird. So that's why I left it at that. To me, it was like, dude talking to me, this is weird. He don't conversate usually. He usually in the corner whispering to her. But how did you forget that you asked him to make a song?

Because he said, oh, She asked me this the night before.

I was drunk the night before. I don't remember.

But then if you always drunk, it's hard to—

Exactly, and I give you that. I'll take responsibility for that. That's it. So I just thought it was weird.

Erica.

They was conversing with me in the first place.

What's most frustrating for you about this situation?

And she's still not saying it though. The frustrating thing is, it's like, again, we haven't talked since that fight. I waited for her to pick up that phone to call. She didn't change her number, everything. My number been the same. I've been in the same spot. She still haven't picked up that phone. This is my first time seeing her and that's because I still make the first thing, first step by calling this show.

[Speaker] All right, Gabby, you wanna know if Charm has been meeting up with your ex. Charm says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her GPS and found that Charm is telling the truth. [APPLAUSE] Gabby, you wanna know if Charm has been communicating with your ex via social media. Charm says she is not. He found 23 messages between the two of them. Now, the thing that was important about this is that Gabby's ex initiated the conversations, but Charm did not engage. Also, so he would initiate every conversation. She would say, Charm, what's up? What's popping? She wouldn't communicate at all. Also, these are all the things.

I told y'all, look.

Never engaging with him at all.

Look.

Never engaging. Also, he follows her, but she does not follow him back, nor has she ever followed him.

I didn't know that. It's not that deep to me. It's really not.

All right, Gab, you wanna know if Charm is communicating with your ex. We found 2 missed calls from Gabby's ex, but again, there was never a callback. There was never a text back.

She did not answer the phone at all. For what? Y'all brought me here for what? I am so mad right now. I wanna walk off the stage. Y'all brought me here to embarrass me for what?

I need you to tell the truth.

I mean, I did, but you brought up shit you didn't have to bring up. That shit was foul and that's why I'm done. But I confess to it. It is what I did. I made a mistake one time. I'm not perfect. I don't even know myself. That's why y'all feel like y'all don't know me. And I told y'all I'm going through a spiritual journey. I've been trying to get to know myself. I've been isolated. That's why I've been keeping my space. So yes, sometimes I surround myself around new energy because I need that. So do y'all. So do y'all. That's it. That's all it ever been. I can't even think.

Okay, I'm gonna tell y'all something. And this is my sincere advice. The minute y'all all started talking, I saw the breakdown and I saw the pain. And I actually do think this relationship is salvageable. I think there's, now hear me out. No charm, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out. There is a lot of growth that needs to be happening here. And it sounds as if you've started the journey of growth. Y'all have not started that exact same journey. I'm not saying y'all not grown. I'm not saying y'all not grown, but y'all not starting that same exact journey.

Journey.

I feel like we did because at the same time, we know who we are. Yeah, and I just left it alone. Like this our first time even seeing each other, so I just let it go. But sometimes I do have that phone.

But can I, I wanna hear, I wanna ask y'all something 'cause your friend just said, I don't even know myself. If one of my friends told me that, my defensive would go down, my heart would break.

That's not what I got.

My friend said, your friend says, I don't know myself. And both of your responses right here, and again, I don't wanna label y'all bad guys 'cause y'all are young women that are growing.

I still don't even want to either. I just want us to be real. No, please do.

Hold on, she just said she not gonna label y'all.

I know.

After all of this, she could, she could. She just, we vindicated, she didn't do nothing.

Yes.

So what do you wanna say to her now?

I apologize for accusing you of something you didn't do. And I apologize if you feel like We weren't, or I wasn't a good enough person to talk to with you or to get your feelings out or to ask you about your stuff. And I'm sorry for not being gentle with you on your journey.

Okay.

Now, the face you made, I was making it in my head until she said that last part. And that was sincere. And what you just demonstrated was growth. Yeah. And I appreciate you doing that growth for your friendship. There is gonna take some time for y'all to heal, but each of y'all, 20 years, it's hard. Y'all are young women who are learning how to become the best version of the women y'all are ultimately gonna end up to be. But the sisterhood is stronger than you even think to be able to help you to get there. Give your friend a hug.

Oh my God, I love y'all.

This sisterhood is not done yet. And let me tell you something, those tears let me know that this sisterhood is not done yet. It's gonna take some time. Y'all are young and you're growing, but it's gonna be okay. And I really do wish y'all the best of luck. Thank you.