You Smell Like a Cheater… Tell Me the TRUTH! | KARAMO

Karamo is my brother from another mother.

Amen, I'm here.

I tell everybody to watch his show to get some knowledge.

Thank you.

I'm very truthful. Now let's get to it.

I appreciate that. Thank you for that. That's very sweet. But you know you fool for talking about you can smell him and that's how you know he's cheating. What do cheating smell like? They talking about me. They know?

Is this a thing?

Y'all know? Okay.

He'll go to the baby mama house. And come back and do this. Us women know what that is. That's the shit you're smelling. I've been with him for 11 and a half.

That's a grown woman right there.

11 and a half years. Hold on. So I think I would know.

The calmness in delivering this to let y'all know I know what the hell he doing. I get it, okay. So tell us about the side chick downstairs.

So my father passed away and I went out of town. I called on FaceTime. I don't know if he really realized the phone was that close, but there was legs with no clothes on and walked away. And he's like, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Wait a minute, wait a minute. So I can hear him putting on his drawers and his pants.

No.

Yes.

Okay. Why are you dealing with your father?

Why I'm dealing with my father?

Okay. And so Darren says you're engaged, but what do you say?

I feel that's his story. If you're in love with somebody and you tell somebody that You love them and you've been with a person this long, you're not gonna disrespect them. You're not gonna verbally abuse them and you're not gonna put another woman in front of who you're with.

That is true. So why do you feel Darren is pressuring you to get married?

I just think he wants to be married and to try to kind of hide the things that he does.

Mm-hmm. You don't seem angry, but are you?

I'm very angry.

You are?

But I try to hold my composure as an adult.

Mm-hmm. How long has this been going on?

Actually, it's been going on for some years, you know? And I try to stay, he tells me, "I'll change, I'll change," but To me, it seems like it's getting worse every year with the verbal abuse.

Okay, do y'all still live together?

No.

You don't live together. When did you make the decision to move out?

I moved out probably about 6 years ago.

6 years ago, okay. So there was a breaking point for you 6 years ago where you said, at least we gotta be separate, but you were still trying to engage in the relationship hoping it would get better.

Right.

But it's not. You said verbal abuse. What does he say?

Oh, I've been called names, which I call him names too. I've been bitches and hoes and thots, and I need to learn how to be a woman and act like a woman. And it's like, I am a woman.

Yeah, uh-huh.

What man wouldn't want no woman that's gonna cheat? Mm-hmm. On them.

Okay, so why stay in this relationship?

I try, I hope for hope, but it just keeps happening. And I feel like I irritate him.

Mm.

So I really don't know what the issue is.

So what's on the line today?

He needs to come out here and be truthful 'cause this is what I came here for.

For the truth.

I came here for the truth.

Got it.

You brought me here, we're coming for the truth.

Got it.

Today.

So Darren called the show.

He called.

He called?

Yes.

Because we're here to unlock phones so we can get the truth and he called.

Right.

Interesting. Well, I think it's the time to meet your fiancé Darren and hear his side of the story. So everyone please welcome Darren to the show. First of all, lies, lies, lies, lies.

Gotta have the same energy. You gotta have the same energy. How you doing, Mr. Karamo? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you also.

So I heard you backstage when your fiancée, or maybe not fiancée, was talking. I heard you say, "Wow, no, tell the truth." So what you just heard, was that not truthful from your point of view?

Definitely not true.

Don't lie. We're here for truth.

You've been out here. You've been out here. You had your chance.

And we're gonna have my chance again.

Mr. Karamo.

So tell the truth.

Mr. Karamo.

Tell the truth.

Karamo. Yeah. Not true at all.

Okay.

Not true at all. She's, you know, it goes both ways. You know, and like she said, she's a woman. I'm a whole man too.

Okay.

It's like I need some things too outta this relationship.

Well, let's go specifically because you said things are not true. Then you said things go both ways. But I'm asking you specifically, what did she say that you're disputing? She said, first of all, let's go down the list, that over the past 10 years, Over the past 11 years, you have cheated multiple times. Is that true?

That's not a fact.

He has a baby mama.

Mm-hmm.

What, I can't be cordial to my baby mother?

Let me tell you something. We're here for truth. He will cuss me out. He will try to cuss me out. But when his baby mama does things, this is how he talks to her.

She's down here telling lies about me. Can I talk?

Can I talk? He can never cuss her out or make her accountable for anything that she does.

That don't make it true because you're in his face.

Yeah.

Karamo, that's not true.

You wanna do a lie detector test, I guarantee you I will pass. We come here for truth, David.

Let's be truthful. So what? I'm not supposed to be cordial with my baby's mother?

You can, but what she's saying is that the behavior is different from the way you speak to her.

No, oh no.

So from your point of view, because I'm listening to you as well, from your point of view, you're saying when you talk to her, you talk to your child's mother the same?

When I talk to her, it's about my child. I don't communicate with her unless it's about my child.

Okay.

I don't go talk to her like, you know, hey, I wanna be with you.

You don't even talk to this woman in front of my face.

What are you talking about?

Because it's about my son, I don't have to do that like that.

So why do you have to be secret? If you love me and I'm supposed to be your fiancée and all this stuff, you can talk to that damn woman right in front of my face.

But listen, she wants to be doing this. This is what she wants to do when I'm talking to my baby mother about my child.

So I don't even know when you talk to your baby mama because you don't talk to her around me.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, so then, so okay, so I see, I hear your point of view and I hear yours. So let's keep going down the list. Do you call her names then?

I have.

You have?

I'm not gonna lie about that.

And she admitted that she calls you a name.

I did it to get better because I love her and I don't wanna have this bickering. I don't wanna have, put her down. Have her feeling bad, but she does things, say things to me.

So then if you feel as if she does the things to you in this time, why have you not left?

You mean why haven't I left? I'm the one dealing with all the BS. I got brought into this, Karamo. I didn't ask for this. I did not ask for this. I came into this with an open relationship for love.

I didn't bring him into no shit with my baby daddy's, none of that.

With my family, none of that. And I done been through all that. You already talked.

And I'm talking again.

But listen, if she feels that way, why have you been staying so long?

Well, I asked her that before you came out as well. I asked her the same thing. Right. Because it's not happening. Well, she said it's because she was hoping that things would get better. How do you explain the smell on your hands?

Oh my goodness.

And you know you did it when you took your son over to your baby mama house, your nasty ass came back on the couch and you're doing like this.

But listen, okay, was there—

You're only doing that 'cause you use this one hand. No, it's not enough. Walk off.

Walk off.

So was there any interaction with your child's mother that day?

No, I'm a grown-ass man. I'm a grown-ass man. I'm not gonna have no, what, my hands, I came out and shook your hand.

Get grown-ass man today on this show.

And now my hands are smelling like—

Be truthful. Be truthful.

Okay, let me ask you this because I see the way you two interacting and I know you don't live together. Are you still intimate?

No.

Not at all.

Okay.

Not at all.

Okay. Do you feel like the way that you both talk to each other has affected the intimacy?

Yes, I do.

You do? It just started like 6 months ago, 8 months ago.

The lack of intimacy only started 8 months ago?

Absolutely.

Okay, so that's when you both got to, well, when she got to her breaking point of the, because I don't know about the cheating, I haven't confirmed any of that yet, but what you are both confirming for me is that there's emotional abuse and verbal abuse in the way that you all talk to each other.

Absolutely.

So you can agree that it gets to a point where you're like, I don't want you to be, I don't wanna be intimate with you if you talking to me like that and vice versa.

Right.

Okay, good. My producers also are telling me that we have a text exchange between the two of you. It says, are you home? Yes or no? Please don't give up on us. This is easy. I'm willing to change for this. Can I stop by? Whatever it takes. I'm at the doctor's with the grandbaby and dropping her off and I'll be there when I'm done. Not answering. Don't wanna argue, but called me. "All kind of names for nothing, but I'll talk to you face to face. I'll call you when I'm done." "Okay, I'm ready to change. I love you with everything in me and I don't wanna lose you." So what I'm seeing in this is that you are confirming that you did prior to this text message call her all types of names and she was just at her breaking point. So it seems like every time one of you is triggered or frustrated, you go for the jugular and start emotionally and mentally abusing each other, correct?

Correct.

So then why would you want to engage in something like this where you feel like I'm so upset that I gotta talk down to you? You said you're a whole man. Do you feel like it's appropriate for a whole man to be talked to negatively?

Not at all.

So do you feel like a whole, a grown woman should be talked to that way?

Not at all.

So then you're engaging in that. Why?

I need to get better.

Okay.

That's why I called you.

So what's on the line today for you?

Everything.

I'm gonna tell you what's on the line. Everything is on the line. He sat here and just lied in your face. Oh, shit. This is what we came Herefore, I told him before we got here, I'm coming for the truth. Do you really wanna do this?

I'm coming for the truth.

And he's still gonna sit here and lie to you on this couch.

So if you would've gotten the truth, you feel like maybe that could've been a pathway for there to be some reconciliation.

Maybe.

So what happens when it comes out that I am telling the truth about not being a cheater?

It doesn't matter about your phone. It matters about how you treat me as a person.

A person, a human. Yeah, but it's about how she treats me too.

I agree.

We have to treat each other like that.

I agree.

And you know what? Now that I'm hearing it like this, I don't have, I'm grown, I can walk away.

Okay, well let's go ahead and do this. Let's unlock some phones.

Let's walk away.

'Cause we came here for. All right, Derrick, we unlocked your phone. Reshay, you wanna know if Darren is communicating with a specific female. He says he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his texts and found that Darren is telling the truth. Reshay, you wanna know if Darren is sending or receiving explicit photos from his ex. He says he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his phone and found that Darren is telling the truth.

Exactly. I tell you, exactly.

Reshay, you wanna know if Darren is meeting up with other women at meet and greets. He says he's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his apps to see if he's meeting up with these people and found that Darren is telling the truth. He's telling the truth.

Absolutely.

Karamo, it wasn't about the phone. It's not about the phone.

It's about the disrespect and the shit. Because you're sitting here lying. You've been talking to everybody you may not be fucking. Texting, but you're talking.

Like I said, we can walk and leave it alone.

Reshay, here we go right now.

We can leave it alone because I proved it.

Reshay, we unlocked your phone. But actually, as you said, it was not about the phone. You refused to unlock yours.

That's why I'm saying I'm walking.

Because I got brought here. And that's you.

You brought me here.

Reshay, actually, I'll tell you this. Actually, I'll tell you this. What Reshay is saying is actually the best thing. I'm not mad at you for not unlocking your phone. Let me tell you why. Because at the end of the day, what I, and I asked questions to both of you to track what's really happening. And what I've realized is that what is true in this relationship is that you two have been apart even though you have the title of being together for years. The emotional verbal abuse has caused you all to live separate lives and you came here for the truth. And my producers are telling me that we caught something on a microphone that I think will be the truth that will let you both know where you stand. Let's take a listen.

2026 coming in. I wasn't answering my phone because I was with another man. My 2026 was coming in with peace and glory. I'm not your wife and you ain't my husband.

Cool with that? Thank you, Mr. Karamo.

Yeah, you're welcome.

And I feel like it basically basically went his way because he will not tell the truth on how he talks and the things he does. Never made it about the phone. It's about the verbal abuse and the disrespect. And that's what I came here for.

So that is the truth. After 11 years, you sometimes hope that things can end on a way that we can at least respect each other and walk away. But I do believe that there was a lack of ability to take accountability for how hurtful the actions have been to both of you. You have taken accountability. You said on this stage, "I talked to him crazy, I said these things, and every time I tried to ask him, he did deflect and try to go back to—" And that's what he does.

And that's why I was saying maybe I can't get it outta him, maybe you can. And that's why we're still here lying.

Yeah, but I'm glad that that truth was caught on audio because at the end of the day, the one thing I'll say that has been modeled that I do appreciate is when there's an unhealthy relationship where people have been in a cycle where they're like, I'm gonna just stay because I'm hoping that maybe it can get better. Someone has to say, I have the courage to leave because I deserve more. And what you modeled here today is saying, I deserve more. I do. On New Year's Eve, you said, enough is enough, I deserve more. And I hope you continue that behavior throughout 2026 and leave this relationship fully. Because you deserve a relationship that's gonna be healthy. Yeah, it is. And I wish him the same. I wish you, Darren, that you find somebody that's gonna love you and be with you, that you don't have to communicate to each other like that. So thank you for being here. Thank you for getting the truth. You are my sister. And everyone at home, stay with us, friends. We'll be right back for more.