You Told Me She's Your Cousin, Who Are You Texting? | KARAMO

So you believe your wife now is sneaking men into the house?

Yes.

Okay. Yes. Tell me what's going on. Tell me why do you believe this? What's the proof you got?

Every time I come in the house, it's something different. Things are moved around.

Yeah.

Like it smells like sex in the air. Like it's just crazy. Like it's hurtful also.

Yeah. For real. So how do you know specifically that she's sneaking men into the house?

I have video, I have a couple videos. I have audios, videos.

Okay, tell me about this recording.

The recording?

Yeah.

Oh, you can hear her moaning, a dude moaning, and also as they're having sex, you can basically hear it.

All right, well, we have the recording to play for our studio audience. Everyone, let's take a listen.

See?

Okay, okay. You hear it? I'm gonna take a poll. If you believe that that was moaning, raise your hand. If you believe like that was moaning, somebody having sex, raise your hand. Okay, okay. If you don't believe that was moaning or having sex, raise your hand. Or you just raising your hand 'cause you just wanna raise your hand? I know. No, no, you just raised your hand. 'Cause I'm not gonna lie, that sounded, sorry at-home audience, our legal department here, they deem that as too graphic for us to play. I will tell you from my point of view, that did sound sexual in nature. It didn't sound, 'cause sometimes someone can be struggling doing something in their house. It did sound sexual in nature to me as well. So why are you sure Shonelle is having sex with other men?

Sometimes she asleep on her phone.

She sees their phone close to her?

Yes. She'll take her location off and she won't share her location with me anymore. Like it's multiple things.

And when you confront her and say, "Hey, you're turning off your location, you're doing these things," when you confront her about it, what does she say?

She says she doesn't do it. She say her phone is messed up.

Okay. Why stay in a marriage, I gotta ask you this, if you don't trust her?

Kids. Got kids.

How many kids do you two have?

Well, we have 6 altogether.

6 total.

Altogether, and we have one.

Okay, but you have one together?

Yeah, that's my baby.

Okay, got it. And how long y'all been married?

We've been married, it'll be a year in March.

One year. And how long y'all been together?

I would say almost about 4 years.

4 years together. One year married. Yeah. Okay. What's on the line for you if we find out today that she is doing something?

Divorce. I can't keep doing it.

Well, listen, Tay's wife Nell is here and this is the first time that she's actually heard that secret recording. So she actually didn't know you were recording her.

Mm-hmm.

And she's never heard it. Okay. Well, everyone please welcome Nell to the show.

I don't understand why you coming out here lying. Now you know that recording is of me. I'm in pain. That is not me having sex with anybody. I'm sorry, how you doing?

No, how you doing? No, you get to defend yourself.

That's just not, it's not what it sounds like. When I'm in pain, yeah, I sound like that. You know what I'm saying? We getting in and out of the bed and stuff like that. I mean, it hurts. Like I have a messed up leg. Like I'm not going to sit here and how am I gonna sneak somebody into a townhouse?

Okay, so what do you say is on that recording then? Since you've heard it now clearly, what do you say that is?

Yeah, okay, so it could be me like getting in the bed. Like I said, I mean, it's a high bed, I'm short, I got to crawl up there. I mean, you make noises when you getting in the bed. Well, at least I do trying to get in there with a bum leg.

It's a difference between a sexual moan and a pain moan, right?

No, no, not with me, there is no difference. It all sounds the same to me.

How bad have things gotten?

I can't sleep. I'm losing jobs, like, 'cause I can't get no rest. We gotta sleep in the living room because he thinks somebody's living in the room, in the closet. Like, they've been there since November. Ain't come out to eat, pee, nothing.

So you really think somebody's living in the closet?

I don't know. Probably is.

Probably is, okay. Probably is. So now you wanna find out if Tay's cheating.

Yes, because he can't be accusing me of all of this And he got all his little friends on Facebook and everything without him doing something. I'm not doing it. I go to work, I come home, I get groceries. You know, we have 6 kids.

Yeah. All right, well, I think it's time that we unlock the phones right now. Nell, we unlocked your phone. All right, here we go. Tay, you wanna know if Nell is communicating with any men online. Nell says she's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Nell is telling the truth. Tae, you wanna know if Nell is on any dating apps. Nell says she's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found that she is telling the truth.

Thank you.

Tae, you wanna know if Nell is having any sexual relationships with any other men. Nell says she's not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched her texts and found that she is telling the truth.

Thank you. Thank you. Now can you please let's just get on?

But my investigator is telling me in this note to me that he found something interesting. Hey, yes, by law you can't stop me from staying there. Nope. So I'll be there late. But if you say no, I won't come. I'll respect your wishes. No matter what, I will always love you and I will never get a divorce. Whatever it's that we're going through, we'll get over it. God got us. I agree, love you too. Now accept my friend request. Oh, you blocked me. Oh, what? Facebook, you unfriended me. So which are you? I wanna be clear. I'm the blue. You're the blue.

He unfriended me.

Okay.

And now he want me to accept his request.

Got it, okay then.

He should've unfriended me.

Interesting.

But yet he threatens me with divorce.

As you see, every other day. Got it, okay. Well, Tay, it's time to unlock your phone. All right, now you wanna know if Tay has any explicit photos on his phone. Tay says he does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his photos and found that Tay is telling the truth.

Thank you.

All right, Nell, you wanna know if Tay has been direct messaging any other women. Tay says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his DMs and found that Tay is telling the truth. Nell, you wanna know if Tay has been communicating with other women. Tay says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his phone and Tay is not telling the truth. My Unlock the Phone investigators found 266 deleted messages between Tay and this woman, and these are all under his recently deleted. So what are the messages before we pull them up with you and what's going on?

No.

Okay.

It's a friend.

A friend, okay. So is a friend that you've gotten, you've started communicating with a lot in the last 2 months? Mm-hmm. About the same time you started accusing your wife. Mm-hmm. And started getting paranoid. Nell, do you know who the fuck it is?

I thought it was his cousin. Is it not? There's a different fuck?

You wanna talk to your wife?

It's the same one, I'm afraid.

So do you wanna talk to her about what you're communicating with?

Not your cousin.

Yes. My cousin.

You wanna talk to her about what you're communicating with and why you deleted it?

I just deleted it.

You don't have to look at me if you wanna talk to your wife about it.

I just deleted it. We wasn't talking about nothing. I just deleted it. It's nothing.

So is she really your cousin?

Cousin slash friend. You know how people say cousin is a friend.

No, so she's not your cousin?

She's not.

She's not your cousin?

She's not.

No.

She's his friend. So do you wanna talk to your wife about what you and your friend are talking about?

Yeah, please talk to us.

And why you thought you need to delete it.

I knew it had to be something.

We wasn't talking about nothing. I mean, it's nothing.

I mean, 266 messages is not nothing.

That's all we're doing.

Okay, so I'm gonna be transparent right now. Yeah. So because of legal, we cannot discuss what he has we found in the deleted messages. And so what I'm doing is I'm trying to give your husband a chance to be honest with you about his friend who he started communicating heavily with in the past 2 months and why he felt when he came to this show, he had to delete 266 messages. Because if you do not feel ashamed of your conversation with your friend, you would be able to keep those in the messages and show them to your wife.

I agree. Thank you.

It's not for him.

I don't think so. Okay, so listen, you two have, so what we do know right now is that you are not cheating. I do believe that in that tape that you were probably in some type of pain or you two were together. I actually do believe it. I actually 100% believe it. I do believe that that sounds suspicious to me. I also know that you're saying you have videotapes that you're not allowed to show any of us or you're not willing to show any of us because if you had a videotape showing a man coming in, we could have squashed this right now.

Exactly.

Exactly. I think that's more of an attempt to try to see if she'll confess to something, which would give you an opportunity to feel more comfortable about any conversations you're having with your friend.

Right, exactly.

What I do know is that you two have beautiful children. Yes. And I believe those children deserve to be in a household where people that are the adults can model honest, healthy communication.

Yes.

Accusations, paranoia, Deflecting, those things aren't healthy. And I do know for a fact that children do pick up on that behavior and then they start to emulate that behavior, whether you know it or not, with other kids and it starts to come out negatively. So what I would encourage both of you to do, mostly you, is to make sure that you're modeling the proper behavior for your children. And I encourage you, if you're gonna leave this stage, to please be honest. And if you can't have an honest communication, I would encourage you as a woman to say, Well, if I can't get the honest communication I deserve, what is gonna be next for me? Right.

Thank you.

Does that help you too?

Yeah.

How do you feel knowing that she's not doing anything?

I feel better.

Okay. And how do you feel knowing that you don't have transparency about his conversations that were deleted?

I'm angry. I'm really angry because you've been accusing me for months and I haven't done anything wrong. Yet you're sitting here with, I don't know, friend, cousin, I don't know what this is.

It's a friend. You ain't got to worry, it's a friend.

I don't know what that is.

It's a friend where there's 266 deleted messages.

I just, I don't—

And their relationship got closer as he started accusing you.

Yeah.

So have a conversation with your husband and I wish y'all the best of luck, all right?

Thank you.