Your Kids Are Too Bright To Be Mine! | KARAMO

This is hard because your boyfriend is doubting that he's the father of all 3 of your children.

Yes, because like, I don't understand why. 'Cause if you look at my picture of my kids and look at him, all of 'em look alike. The only thing is that 2 of 'em is light skin and 1 of 'em is dark skin.

So that's why you're having doubts because of the color of their skin?

I mean us, you know, well us as Black people anyway, you know what I mean?

We come in different shades.

Different shades.

Yeah.

I mean.

When did the trust issues in your relationship begin?

It began in the beginning.

Right.

'Cause I mean, look at how the relationship started.

Okay. So they started on trust issues. What happened in the beginning then?

In the beginning, ooh, Jesus. Baby, I was dating this guy, one of my ex, and he had a family member who Tommy was dating. And so, I mean, at the time I was young. I mean, I was 18, I was fresh outta school, and my mindset was like, You're not going to question me or accuse me of doing something too many times before I make it happen. And so pretty much I was accused too, too many times and I made it happen. And I mean, me and Tommy been together ever since.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

So this guy you were with was accusing you of like doing something with Tommy.

Uh-uh, nah, it wasn't a guy.

Uh-uh.

It was his, who Tommy was dating.

Mm-hmm, okay, got it, got it. And y'all been together for a long time now because you got together when you were 18 and you're 26 now.

Yes.

Yeah, okay. So y'all almost been together a decade.

Yes.

Wow. How often do you two argue about infidelity?

About 2 to 3 times a month. Tommy just accuse me of any and everybody.

Okay.

If you weren't on the show, he'll probably say I was sleeping with you.

Mm. So. We make a cute couple, girl. I mean.

Dang.

I'm joking, I'm joking. Do the arguments escalate in front of the kids?

Yes, sometimes it get pretty heated and loud. I mean, it'll get to the point where like my baby will come and hug me or something, but we tend to cool it down and he'll say—

Yeah, the kids can see that mom and dad are having some issues.

Yeah, we not gonna do it in front of the kids, so.

Yeah, okay then. We have photos of some damage that has taken place at your house recently. Is this your TV?

But baby, wait, wait, wait, no. Don't just think I'm just doing this, uh-uh. What happened is that you—

Hold on, well, I wasn't thinking you was doing this. So did you do this?

Yeah, I did.

She's talking about, "Well, don't think I just did it." I'm like, "I wasn't." So you did this? Yeah. I thought this was going— Okay, so why did you break your own TV?

Because I was watching TV and we was having an argument, so I really wasn't paying him no attention. And so he decides he wanna go and unplug it. So when he unplugged the TV, I just threw the remote, boom.

At the TV?

At the TV.

And hold on, my producer telling me now that this is sugar in your gas tank?

In my gas tank, yes. In mine.

So he put sugar in your gas tank?

No, no, no, no, no, no. I put sugar in my gas tank.

Girl.

Listen now, listen. Because like—

Girl.

Uh-uh. He tried to stop me from leaving. We was having another heated argument.

Every time he tried to stop you from doing something, you destroy your own stuff. I don't get that logic.

I don't get it either.

You was trying to stop me from watching TV, so I broke the TV. Well, girl, now you can't watch TV.

And he can't watch it either.

But you can't watch it.

We got one in the bedroom that I watch.

And now you said he was stopping you from leaving. Now you can't go nowhere.

Because listen, wait, uh-uh. His car was on flat. He have a car, but his car was on flat.

But that's an easy fix. So now he can go somewhere. You still can't go nowhere. So he got what he wanted in the end. You're not watching no TV, and you're not going nowhere.

I'm driving his car.

Oh, you driving his car?

I'm driving his car.

Okay, so you put the sugar in your own gas tank?

Yes, I mean, he had me upset.

Well, listen, I think it's time to meet Tommy and hear his side of the story, right? All right, everyone, so please welcome Tommy to the show.

She confessed recently that she was conversating with one of her exes.

Okay.

Okay, and you still communicating with your ex-wife?

No, I'm not.

Okay, when was the last time you communicated with your ex?

The last time I communicated, we did it together.

When did we do wit together?

When we got an apartment in Texas. Really?

You been talking to her after that? You just went to jail. Baby, don't do this. You know she was just up in your car. She was just up in your car.

Was she in your car?

You done been up in the house. You know what the furniture look like. So what else happened? You know what last?

What else happened?

Nothing else happened. But yes, she was in my car. She was in my car.

That's it?

That's it, that's all. She was just in your car.

So you say that CeCe's been acting differently. Explain.

Well, yes, she have been acting differently. For the sex-wise, it's different. Threaten if I actually talk about a relationship.

How is the sex-wise different? 'Cause baby, my sex still the same and I know my sex still good, baby. So what you mean?

It's mine, I'm supposed to know how it feel different.

Wow, really? That's right there. 'Cause I don't understand. I mean, I done had 3 kids. And all, and it's. I mean.

Does CeCe threaten you?

Yes, sir.

In what way?

How do I threaten you?

If I wanna know anything about a relationship, she would, if I'm not talking her lingo, she would justify, she would call the police.

I don't justify anything.

She was threatening to call the police if I don't be quiet.

I love when I ask him if you threaten him, you did this. How I threaten you?

Baby, 'cause.

This how, look, you literally did that. You literally turned, how I threaten you? That's what she said.

I'm like.

Girl, you're not helping your case right now, okay?

Yeah, baby, 'cause I wanna know how.

Okay, does she break stuff as well? I saw that she broke the TV.

She breaks the stuff. If I don't move around, she gonna break me.

Oh, wow.

I'm gonna break you. I'm gonna be gonna break you in half.

Okay, okay, I understand. All right, all right. So there's a lot of tension between you two.

It is.

It is. But I feel like it's probably always been this way.

It has because I feel like he got issues from his past that he need to deal with and get all that situated before he can be in like a real relationship. Because like right now I feel like his past life is hindering him from moving on with me.

I got it, okay. And you went to jail a few times.

Yes, sir.

And that's also why you have doubt about these 3 children, correct? Correct? Because you're saying like while you're in jail, she could have possibly been doing something.

Yes, sir. But just not only that, she does a lot of smooth things that kind of make me have doubt.

Got it.

Yes, sir.

Like what?

Towards the phone-wise, she move different with the phone. She very smooth with the phone.

It ain't my fault that I know how to work a phone and you don't. That's all that is. And he's real insecure. That's all it is. If I had a phone and I'm on the phone with my mom, who that is on the phone?

How we first started off, that takes a lot into now that we are together, the way I feel, the doubt that I feel, how we first started messing around and—

Leads into this.

Yes, sir. And here it is, a couple months back, she was Let me know that she still had conversation with her ex. Did it once, did it again.

For you to sit up here and try to deny your 3 kids, that's wrong of you. Do you know how you make me feel as a woman?

If I find out anything, I'm done.

Well, I guess it's time now to reveal the truth of all this so we can get to it. We have 3 envelopes here because there's 3 children that are in question. And so what are your kids' names?

Tommy, Noah, and Amalah.

Okay, got it. So I'm gonna give you the first envelope for your first child.

I already know what it say, so it ain't no need for me to open it. You is. Baby, it is.

I'm the father.

To Tommy, yes, yes, is. Now watch these other two.

He is. Let's go for it.

He didn't make himself look like a fool. You is. Baby, you is.

Well, we got the third one. Any doubts again? He is. He is. OK. Here you go.

He is. He is, baby. I'm the father. So you tell me, throughout these years, You done been back and forth to jail. Where have I been?

I apologize.

Oh, okay, thank you. That's good. I'm sorry. Do you receive that apology?

I do and don't.

Why don't you?

Because he shouldn't have been denying it from the jump.

Yeah, mm-hmm. I hear that.

I guess my doubt come from 'cause I keep leaving my family.

That's it. I'm glad you can acknowledge that. Because I could catch that from when we were talking about your history. If you're going in and out in jail, there's gonna be a guilt factor that's probably lingering over your head of like, I'm missing time because of my own choices. And then instead of being able to reconcile that until right now where you finally said it's because of me leaving my family. Before that, it was easy to blame her because if you blame her, then maybe I don't have to deal with the guilt that I missed time.

Correct.

I mean, we still gotta unlock these phones because you still have concerns if she's been cheating. Is there anything in this phone that we could find that you could be nervous about?

Only thing that's probably in there, me talking to an ex.

Okay.

But I mean, that's it.

Well, let's unlock the phone.

Let's unlock it.

Tommy, you want to know if CeCe is communicating with any of your cousins. She says she's not. My unlock the phone investigators searched her texts and found that she is telling the truth. Tommy, you wanted to know if Cece is communicating with her ex. She says she's not. Outside of the time that she told you about, we searched her DMs and found she's telling the truth. Tommy, you wanna know if Cece is communicating with any men on social media. She says she's not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her apps and found she's telling the truth.

Thank you so much.

But that, so how do you feel? 'Cause you know.

Well, what about the other phone?

What other phone?

The other phone.

What other phone?

At the house.

You said one?

Yeah, one on you, two. You have another one in your purse.

Okay, we gonna unlock it too.

Don't worry, we already did, girl. We already found it. I found it. You already know we was gonna find that. You already know. I can give you your phone back now. You already know we found it. You already know. We messy and nosy over here. We gonna search and we gonna find it. Like I said, we are about facts over here, not just the feelings, okay? So we unlocked that second phone. Is there anything you're nervous about?

No, it's not. Besides what he know, no, it's not.

You sure?

I'm positive.

Are you worried that we could find anything? I hope not.

Yes, because you always saying that I'm using the app to cover up something. Yeah, he's worried.

All right, well Tommy, you wanna know if CeCe is communicating with any of her cousins again on this phone? We checked. She says she's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched the text and found She's still telling the truth. You want to know if Cece is communicating with her ex in any way. We checked this phone for that as well. She says she's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found she's telling the truth. And Tommy, you want to know if Cece is communicating with any men on social media. She says she's not. Again, my unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found She's still telling the truth.

Now, thank you. Thank you. So who's wrong? Thank you. Thank you.

A lot of doubt.

So the doubt is gone?

The doubt is gone.

I hope so.

I promise you, I hope so.

Well, listen, you acknowledged earlier that when you were locked up, this caused some insecurities, but just because you were locked up doesn't mean that she has to keep unlocking her whole life for you just to prove to you that she's not doing anything. And I think that you need to now trust that even though you start off on a rocky ground, and this is the problem, I've said this before on this show, when you start off as a mistress, there's always gonna be mistrust. Always, always. And that's what's happening. It's lingering throughout because how y'all started is always in your head. And it's always in your head, of course, of course. But I have to tell you, Even though that's in your head, you have to even look at your own behavior because for you to still be talking to your ex, that's gonna trigger her. You know what I mean? Trust is what the, is the foundation of relationship and y'all have to start believing in each other and trusting each other because if you can't get to trust, then y'all are gonna fail and crumble and there's not just two people that are gonna be hurt, it's five people. So you have to do better for those kids and you have to do better. One of the things I picked up on you is that you tit for tat. You gotta stop that. You can't be destroying your own stuff, okay?

Yeah.

I'm not saying destroy anything, but definitely don't be destroying your own stuff, all right?

I know.

And just because you feel hurt by him, instead of going tit for tat and saying, "Well, let me go do something," you gotta communicate what you're feeling. Just like I saw you did it here. When I asked you, "How do you feel when he apologized?" You're like, "I accept it, but I don't because it hurt." That's the mother, that's the woman I know you are. Don't go throwing stuff, communicate with your man, talk to him, be vulnerable, and that will allow him to open up and be vulnerable. I can tell he's open to it, all right? And you need to stop talking to your ex.

Yes, sir.

ASAP, ASAP, all right?

Yes, sir.

ASAP, all right? Talking about she in her car, come on now. Listen, but good luck to y'all. You got your answers, all right? All right, everyone, thank you for being with us. Make sure to come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking. And we can keep growing. I love you all.