Your Mom Is Helping You Cheat On Me! | KARAMO

I gotta know, when did the issues start between you and Kevin?

Oh, like around July.

July? Okay then. And what happened after you woke up and realized that Kevin wasn't in bed beside you?

I woke up and I text him like, "Where are you? Where are you? Where you at? Like, where'd you go? Where you go?" So he wasn't like replying, wasn't saying anything or whatever like that, so.

It was concern at first. Yeah. General concern.

Of course, or whatever like that, so. I'm like, I'm gonna give it like an hour or two or whatever like that. Maybe he gonna come back 'cause his mom does live close or whatever like that. So I was thinking. So eventually when he not responding, I go to his mother's house and what I see, I see his car parked there. I see his mother's car parked there. Now I go to his mother's house all the time. I got the keys to their house. I could walk in. You get what I'm trying to say? So now I go there this day, you know, I know he's there obviously 'cause I see the car in the garage. I mean, I see the car in the driveway. So I go to the back, the front door, but the top lock is locked. So I go to the back door and Mommy's back, I call her Mommy, that's my mother-in-law. She's back there cooking. So when she sees my face, she like, "Oh, oh." I'm like, "Mom, open the screen door." [Speaker] Yeah. [Speaker] It's Kevin. She was like, "Oh, Kevin is sleeping." So I hear her like telling Kevin, "Your girlfriend is here at the door." And I just hear him, Screaming. So then she come back, she like, "Oh, hold on, Kevin's gonna come. You wanna ride with me to the store?" She acting suspicious. Do I wanna ride with you to the store?

She acting suspicious.

You got a pot of food cooking. Do I wanna ride with you to the store?

Yeah.

I'm looking like, "No, I don't wanna ride with you to the store." Yeah.

What did Kevin tell you that he was doing over there?

Oh, he said, "The reason I didn't come to the door 'cause I told my mom to tell you that, oh, I wanted space." Space for what, bitch? I just wanted space when you just came to my house looking for me. Like looking for me, you know what I'm trying to say? Knocking on my door. So ain't nothing happened within them 12 hours that you wanted space. No, you don't want, like if that was the case.

That's a lot layer that I did not know. So yeah, y'all were, he came to the house to beg to be with you.

Back with me and I let you come back. We went out, you took me out, all of that. Then you disappeared. I don't know. I feel like he fought so hard to get back with me. Like, you know what I mean? Like you text everybody. I'm blocking you, ignoring you. You took plates off my car thinking that was gonna get my attention. Like, who does that?

So it sound like y'all argue a lot and have some toxic moments.

Yes, so it wasn't that real to take no plates off. And if you think you gonna get my reaction, you think that's gonna get me to call you, I might not never fucking call you after that.

So my producers told me that he was texting everyone, including your 15-year-old daughter.

Yep, yep, you could post the things, yep.

You want it on? Can we take a look at that? The reason I'm texting you is to let you know that the time I spent with you and your family was priceless. "Priceless to me. Further and more, you could see me and mommy separate." What? Uh-uh. "And I know that this time apart is needed for growth from both of us." I know, separated. "And you could see mommy probably spending more time with y'all and praising God again. As for me, I'm spending more time with my mom getting life back." This to your daughter?

Yes.

Okay.

The thirst is real, bro. Yeah, I'm thirsty.

So how long have y'all been back together?

This is like 2 or 3 weeks or so.

Okay, got it, got it, got it. And he accuses you of cheating. Even though you haven't been together for 2, 3 weeks?

No, he say, yeah, he say that, he said that somebody text me, "Hey beautiful," and it was a whole girl, like, and then when I sent it to him, I don't know, just like, he's like jealous, he insecure, he'll be like, "I don't want you talking to no man or being like that." And do you think he cheated on you? Oh, definitely, somebody was in that house, I don't care.

And that's why you're unlocking each other's phones?

If somebody was not in that house, I would've been able to get through that house because we didn't get into no argument and nothing was wrong. Somebody was in that house. What do you think, I'm a dummy? Then you send me all of these messages, oh, you know, we got into this week, you send me all these messages, I wanna marry you, asking me my ring size, blah, blah, blah, and then Friday is, oh, you don't make me happy. Which one is it?

Okay, so it's time to hear Kevin's side of the story as well. So everyone please welcome Kevin to the show. Hey Kevin, nice to meet you. How you doing? So how do you feel about what was just said?

Well, she said a lot and half of it is true.

You leaning in for a kiss?

That's not true.

Okay, okay. So when do you think the issue started in your relationship?

Well, the issue started in our relationship when I had surgery.

Okay.

When I had surgery, you know, your partner supposed to help you and be nurturing. Do you know she actually punched me in my knee right after surgery? And blood was gushing out my leg.

Hold on, you laughing on that, girl? Did you actually punch him in his knee after he had knee surgery?

Yes, it wasn't that serious. Wow.

It wasn't that serious?

No.

And you see, I have a little red flag count over here, girl.

And I'm gonna give you a little, I'm giving you a little check real quick for that one. So did she take care of you after she? Hit you in the knee?

She done nothing the whole time. So she wouldn't get me ice. I couldn't move.

You lying like that.

I couldn't barely walk. I'm like, babe, please get me some ice.

You can't walk, but you're walking up and down the stairs and you're going every day and you're going to your car and you're going outside to go do this and go do that. There's no way you need me to sit there and massage your leg when you outside walking around for 8 hours and you ain't hurt. You wasn't hurt. Don't try to run that story because that's a lie. When you left my house at 3 o'clock in the morning, right? When I went and put ice in the refrigerator.

You know why I left?

Go ahead.

Because you strolled all over the bed and I couldn't even lay down. When I finally got the strength to go to the bathroom and I come back, she's on the bed like this.

So was there, we gotta be clear, was there another woman in the house?

No, it was just me and my mother and God.

What?

So why did you take the plates off of her car?

Reason why I took the plates, we had a big fight, right? And then she goes on Facebook Messenger and she got the story. Oh, you want my phone number? This she telling whoever man who's coming picking her up. So of course you ain't gonna be driving around with no man. That's why you took the plates off. Yeah, I took them plates off. But you say you can't even fit, you got skinny thighs. Let him put them plates on there and you can ride him around.

So why did you text everyone including her daughter to try to get her back if you were upset about it?

If I was so mad, right? And I text my daughter.

The reason why I text her daughter First time we had a fight, she told her child everything.

That's my child.

So I'm like, why would you tell a child that? And then—

That's my child. That came out of nowhere.

And then additionally, she made the child curse me out. Did she tell you that?

No. He talking about why did you text Autumn?

Mm-hmm. You wanna explain that story since you know everything else?

Yeah, we can explain that too.

So tell 'em.

Why you talking about that with Autumn? You were in the restaurant.

Your girl is very combative, right? And she cursed like a sailor, right?

Oh really?

And she never wanna listen. Right? And she keep going and going. So at times I need a mental break from her.

Tell him to tell him to—

You talking about Shatia?

Yeah, so when I had my mental break, when I went to my break, she comes, she was calling me, I didn't answer, I didn't answer. I told my mom, she come, do not let her in this house. I need a break.

You just left my house, you just begged me the day before to come to my house to be with me. So if you needed a mental break, I gave you all the breaks you needed. I deaded you. You came to my house looking for me. Can I come in? So how mentally do you wanna break?

In the beginning it was fine, then after surgery it just, everything just changed.

In the beginning it was fine, but once you find out somebody trying to cheat on you and trying to play you like you dumb, no bro, we not playing mentally.

Do you really wanna marry her?

You think I'm gonna have, you think I'm gonna feel comfortable having sex with my man?

I think we need some type of couples therapy or something first, but yes, I wanna marry her.

You do wanna marry her?

Yes.

Do you wanna marry him?

Some type of help, yeah.

Oh, have you ever cheated on her?

No.

Ever at all?

No.

Okay, do you think she may be cheating on you?

Like with her? Like everyone's her cousin. We could be somewhere and that's my cousin, that's my cousin. On the phone, I love you, that's my cousin. I don't know what to believe.

So both of you told my Unlock the Phone investigator, especially you Kevin, that you want to know if you were cheating on each other.

Yes.

Okay. So both of you are questioning what the other person is doing.

Yeah.

And it's been 11, 12 months, right?

Yes.

So you both know 11, 12 months that I'm gonna say there's tons of red flags. Like literally I got a column right here called Red Flags. Like how do y'all feel about the fact that it's been 11 months and you have all these red flags? Horrible.

It's very horrible. It's heartbreaking and it's toxic and I just want it to be better.

Yeah. We gotta unlock these phones and see where y'all at. Kevin, we gonna unlock your phone first. All right, Shatiana, you want to know if Kevin is talking to other women. He says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his calls, we searched his text messages, we searched his DMs. He said he's not talking to anyone. My investigator found that he is not telling the truth. We found that he is talking to 4 other women via text, DMs, and different calls. Can I have the evidence back?

You are such a liar, like a whole liar. What you lying for though? The whole point is like, you could be dead ass free. I ain't the type of bitch that's chasing no motherfucker. Like I'm really it, my nigga. You come over here chasing to be back with me, doing all of that when you doing this. For what?

So he's talking to this girl right here. He says, I got off work a while ago. It was tiring today. What's good? Can I see you? "I'm free Thursday after 12." "Okay, sexy, Thursday you and me." "What's up? I'm in town. Hit me up when you get back." He's sending photos to this girl right here. That's a good photo of you though, but you know you got a girl at home, right? Okay. "I'm good. When can I see you?" "You still on the drive?" "Sexy, what you doing? You hungry? You feeding them now?" Okay. I see this one on Facebook. Just thinking about you, sexy. Food and drinks, let me know.

Let me say what I say.

How do you feel about this?

Oh, oh, wait. Oh, you a liar, liar.

So you're shocked by this? You're shocked.

I mean, I'm not shocked because the way how his behavior, it wouldn't be like 9 times outta 10. So he the way, and he say this is why I treat him like that and why I don't cater to him. 'Cause I know a nigga want a nigga. I know you ain't shit. So I'm gonna treat you like you ain't shit. And that's what you are, ain't shit.

So Kevin, you have, you not saying anything. So you knew you was talking to other women.

It wasn't that I was like talking to them. Like Shatiana just put me into a negative space.

Don't blame me. I can't make you. I don't talk to nobody.

You can't blame her for your actions.

I'm not blaming her for my actions.

'Cause if you were in a negative space, just like you said that day you left and went to your mother's house, you could have left this relationship total. It sounds like you were going back to her 'cause this is you.

Dennis, I blocked you. I left you alone. Even when he took the place though, I left you alone. Like you coming behind me. I'm never hitting you up first. You talking about let's go to church, God, all of this. Like I don't care.

Why were you trying to get her back?

Yeah, why were you trying to get her back? You're texting her daughter, you're texting everybody and you're talking to girls. You trying to take him out to eat? You saying, "What's up, sexy?

What's up?" 'Cause he a thirsty.

Because I love her, that's why.

'Cause you love me?

Nah, that's not what love is. That's not what love is. Well, listen, you asked for us to unlock her phone as well. You told my investigators you wanted to know if Shatiana had been talking to other men during your relationship. So it's time to unlock her phone right now. Okay, so let me be clear again. Kevin, you want to know if Shatiana was talking to other men. She says she is not. My unlock bin phone investigator searched her calls, her texts, and DMs, and she's not telling the truth either.

What?

We found that she is speaking to, she's speaking to 5 men via calls, texts, and DMs.

What?

Can I have the evidence bag?

Oh my gosh.

Shatiana.

Oh, thank you.

Come on, you know better. You think I was just gonna let Kevin be playing me? You know better. Yeah, I wanted you to see it.

Well, let me look at this. So it says this one, you look good.

I told you this, baby.

Oh no, let me see.

I told you that. I told you that.

What about this one?

I'm trying to think.

That stayed between us.

You talking about?

Yeah, babe, I told you that.

You ain't talking about? Look at her.

You talking about?

Did you call him back?

You a liar. You a liar.

I showed you all of that. Let me see.

I knew you was a—

Oh, you a liar.

I know you was a hoe.

Shut up. Shut up. You're mad. You're mad. I showed you all of that. Every last one of those. You seen all of those.

I didn't see those ones.

Don't play dumb.

But it don't matter. It doesn't matter. This has been toxic. It's 11 months, 12 months. You've only been together. The foundation has been broken.

But him saying he mean to people October 3rd and October 5th, all of that, that's recent shit. This right here is a bunch of garbage that he already, you know, like he already real life really know, like seeing my phone. So at the end of the day, I would've never known that. Thank you for letting me know that.

So much of it is because of— So, well listen, this, and the end of the day, you both are doing the exact same thing.

No, you could take this.

No one is worse in this situation. I gotta tell you this. The thing that I would say to y'all, I hope y'all are just going to take this as a stance right now to say we're breaking up. Are you two breaking up?

Are you breaking up with me, Karamo?

No.

So please tell me you're breaking up with him.

You breaking up with me?

No.

Oh girl, so y'all wanna be in this toxic cycle together? Good day, good day, good day, good day, good day, good day.

No, I'm breaking up with Kevin.

Huh?

No, I'm breaking up with Kevin for real.

You really are?

Yeah, I'm breaking up with Kevin for real.

You breaking up with me?

Yeah. You gonna break up with him?

Yes, I'm breaking up with you. Best guess, there he is.

Okay, 'cause seriously, because at the end of the day, you deserve, you both deserve better than this.

Yeah.

So good luck.

Thank you.

You're welcome. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

I'm serious. I mean, I hope you stick to this. I'm gonna tell you this, because again, at the end of the day for me, I'm worried about both y'all, but also these kids, your daughter. Your daughter's gonna model and choose what type of man you start choosing.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's gonna model your behavior. So if you stay in something that's bad and she see you doing this, guess what she gonna think is fun? So just think about that.

She gonna think like, "Oh, is it right for me and the three of us to—" Some dude to do this?

Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Got you. Got you. Okay, perfect. Thank you. You're welcome. But at the end of the day, both of y'all need to end this and you know that. Okay, no problem. Listen, I wish you both the best of luck, all right?

Wish you the best of luck.