You're 50, I'm 25, Stop Denying Our Kids! | KARAMO

In this KARAMO episode, host Karamo mediates a heated confrontation between Jennifer, a 25‑year‑old mother of three, and her 50‑year‑old boyfriend Latrell. Jennifer alleges that Latrell is denying paternity of her two youngest children while acknowledging uncertainty about the oldest. She recounts their shared history of homelessness, drug use, and her sobriety, and accuses Latrell of invasive surveillance, mistrust, and emotional abuse. Latrell admits to a past breakup over sexual expectations and expresses his own trust issues. Karamo escalates the session by employing “Unlock the Phone” investigators to examine both parties’ phones for hidden apps, messages, and calls, ultimately finding that Jennifer’s claims of fidelity are true while uncovering multiple calls and texts from Latrell to other women. The climax involves a DNA test administered on‑stage: the results confirm that Latrell is the biological father of the 11‑month‑old son Liam and the 2‑year‑old daughter Bella Mae, but the test for the 4‑year‑old son Mateo is inconclusive in the transcript (Latrell’s reaction suggests doubt). The episode ends with emotional exchanges about trust, the impact of past drug use, age‑related insecurities, and a tentative reconciliation.
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My boyfriend, Latrell, has been denying all 3 of my children. I'm 100% sure that 2 of them are his. When we met, I was 20 years old. We were homeless and I was on drugs. We were sleeping in the same park. He was trying to help me out by taking me to meetings. He would bring me food because I had, had days without eating. Once I found out I was pregnant, I stopped doing the drugs. I changed my life. Latrell knows we weren't exclusive when I got pregnant, but he stepped up and signed the birth certificate anyway. Just recently, he started denying my other two. It just makes me really mad that he feels like that, that I have always been cheating, or he wants to FaceTime me at work. To see who I'm talking to or who I'm with. He's watching me all the time. He has cameras in the house. There was one time that he wanted me to go and have sex with him, but he just wanted me to just leave my kids and just go please him. Because I wouldn't drop everything, he broke up with me. I just want to prove to him that my two youngest kids are his.
Okay, so I was taking notes of what you said was true or not, but I gotta ask you, based on what she just said, did you actually try to break up with her because she, for not having sex with you?
Yes. And we broke up before this actually. So it was kind of a, you know, she'd call me and then we'd basically meet up together. And so I was like, yeah, you know, hey, you know, it's been a while now. You know, I haven't been doing nothing. You know, I actually kind of, needed some. And she said no.
But she said that she had the kids and that she couldn't do it because the kids were there.
Yeah, but her family watched the kids all the time.
Okay. My producer's telling me that your lady is backstage crying right now. So everyone, I wanna meet your girlfriend Jennifer. So Jennifer, come on out.
How are you?
So what did— Feel betrayed. You feel betrayed? What did he say that makes you feel betrayed?
My kids. I have always told him since day one that my oldest kid might not be his. I don't know why he's switching things around. But my other two.
Honestly, that's not what you just said on the video. You said that you said it before.
Way before, when I found out I was pregnant. When I found out I was pregnant, I told you. I told you.
When you signed his birth certificate, you told me?
Before that.
When did you tell me?
'Cause I called you and I told you that you were not the only person, so I always been real with you, so I don't know why you making stuff up.
I didn't, that's the way you said that.
And then you bring the other two.
That's not the way you said that. You said that you told him that he wasn't mine.
How often does he deny your kids?
I didn't even know he was denying them until like probably 2, 3 weeks ago about my 2 youngest ones. But the oldest one, yeah, I always told him since day one that it might not be his.
So you knew that there was questions, but the other 2, you're shocked by this. Is that part of what's killing you, that's making you cry right now?
Yeah.
That's why you feel betrayed. It's like we've been together and you feel like I haven't done anything and you're denying these other 2 kids.
Yeah, I think.
Do you think he's cheating on you?
I do, yeah.
You do?
Why?
I found messages on his phone.
Oh, you did?
About talking, he was talking to some other girls.
Is that true, you were talking to other girls?
That was during when we weren't together and I was living with my roommate.
Okay, okay.
He has went through my phone and he hasn't found nothing.
I didn't erase it. Did I erase it?
I haven't erased nothing.
Because I have never had talk.
You go through my phone.
I have talk, but I never cheated.
And have you found something?
So have you, so, okay, so you're admitting that you were talking to somebody, but you're saying this is during the time that you said y'all were not together.
Yeah, I was living at my roommate's and she was back at her mom's.
Got it. And you told me before that during that time when you were like, okay, I'm gonna go do something, that's when she said, no, come back home. Or let's not shut it down?
No, no, 'cause honestly, I've never told her that while we were together.
Okay.
But she was at her mom's and like I said, I felt like something's going on. Why would you wanna just leave the house we live in? My daughter has her own room, you know, everything else. I, you know, I felt like something else was going on.
Yeah, okay.
So I basically, you know, I felt like, yeah. And then I started feeling that even way when I had to move out of the house.
Yeah.
And then when I moved into my friend's house and then, Jennifer, how does your family feel about him?
They don't like him.
They don't, why?
Well, they started liking him, yeah. But there was one time that we were staying with my mom's and he would, well, say that I was cheating, so they ended up not liking him.
So it's 'cause he was disrespecting you in front of them?
Yeah.
Do you feel like you were being disrespectful at that time?
I do admit, I do have trust issues with her because Like I said, I've seen her love someone else.
You don't love someone when you're on drugs. That's not called love.
I know, but you don't dedicate yourself that way neither.
Yeah, but that's not called love. When you're on drugs, you don't even love yourself.
I know, but you never dedicated yourself to me that way.
How?
Well, we can have a friendship where we can talk to each other.
You're always telling me that I'm cheating. You're always telling me that I'm cheating. Ow.
So you said like when she dedicated herself to this man, you said it felt like a real friendship?
Yeah, it felt like they can, you know, you can talk about anything and, you know, and they can step out and do anything. And even though they weren't together, you know, they were able to have a friendship.
Got it. Do you think your age difference affects this relationship? 'Cause you're 50 and you're 25, right?
Yes.
Uh-huh, okay. How do you feel like it affects it?
I think his age is making him feel more insecure about himself.
Do you feel that way?
I kind of don't. I kind of don't. I think that, you know, maybe she should, you know, stop and think about things she says sometimes. Like just today she got mad about my ex on Facebook and—
I told you I didn't care about your ex, your baby mom.
'Cause you made a comment about his past relationship in one of his past shows.
Yeah, he sent me a video of some girl that looked like his baby mom. I'm like, I don't even care about that.
Got it. But you took that as if she was maybe disrespecting your child.
Well, kind of, 'cause it was about the children and getting messages.
Did he help you get sober?
In some part, yeah.
Okay.
But I put that all on my son 'cause when I got pregnant, I stopped doing all that.
Yeah. Well, I said helped because you actually got yourself sober. So I wanna be very clear, that's yourself doing.
Yeah, he was taking me to meetings.
Yeah, I wanna make sure it's very clear. That's not to take away the work you have to do yourself because somebody could support you, but you made that decision to better your life and are doing good. How's your sobriety going? It's going great?
Yeah.
Good, good, okay. These trust issues are affecting a lot more in your lives that you also have come here because you want your phone unlocked?
Yes.
Okay, so what is happening? Jennifer, tell me, why do you want to unlock his phone?
I feel like he's hiding stuff, dating apps. Besides the messages that he has with those girls.
Uh-huh. All right, well, I think it's time to unlock your phones. All right. Jennifer, it's time to unlock your phone. All right, Latrell, you wanna know if Jennifer has been DMing other men. Jennifer says she does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Jennifer is telling the truth. Latrell wants to know if Jennifer has any dating apps on her phone. Jennifer says she does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found that Jennifer is telling the truth. I always like to preface on this show, we know we search for both what's in the phone and we also find the stuff that has been deleted. Latrell, you wanna know if Jennifer is texting other men. Jennifer says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her texts and found that Jennifer is telling the truth.
That's all you guys.
Well, Latrell, it's time to unlock your phone. Jennifer, you wanna know if Littrell has been DMing other women. Littrell says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his DMs and found that Littrell is telling the truth. Jennifer, you wanna know if Littrell has been calling other women. Littrell says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his calls and found that Littrell is not telling the truth. Latrell has 77 calls with a woman named between July and August. 6 calls were just last Sunday. Most other calls occur early in the morning between 5:00 AM, which I have an assumption of this. Do you wanna explain?
That's a work buddy.
Yeah, that's what I figured. Once you told me you were a truck driver and I know how, I have friends who are truck drivers and that party line, the timing, That is y'all are keeping each other away.
Yes.
And you know that in person. Yeah, I know that. Okay, so good. Okay, we still find it. Listen, we saw a name, we saw a number, we gonna let you know, so okay. All right, Jennifer, you wanna know if Latrell has been texting other women. Latrell says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his texts and found that Latrell is not telling the truth. Latrell had a text exchange with one of the women Jennifer was concerned with— This is Jennifer. Are you okay out there, sister? Yes, sorry, I was asleep. Thanks for checking in. Love you. Love you too. Okay.
How the fuck? We used to go to school together and you're still trying to get at her.
I was just checking on her.
So love you, really? You were trying to get at her.
She's clean and sober and I'm—
I don't give a fuck about her. You were trying to get at her.
That's the way you feel about everything then, that's what it is.
You were trying to get at her. How do you see me? I was on drugs. It would be a problem if I was talking to some dude and I said love you to him. It would be a fucking problem for you.
I was on drugs.
First of all, I see your side. You're saying when I was on drugs, this was somebody I was trying to get at, but since I've been sober, these are just check-ins. Listen, I don't know the history of your relationship, so I'm gonna take your word. But what she's asking is a valid question. If the shoe was on the other foot and right now she was communicating with the guy who she said were just friends and she said, "I love you," with your trust issues, would you have had an issue? But prior to me unlocking her phone?
Yes, I would, honestly.
So the reason I wanna say that is because in moments of these, it's easy to deflect. It's easy to say, "No, I wouldn't have an issue," because now you've gotten your answers. So you could understand that her feelings are valid in this moment, that somebody I've had concerns about because in your drug state, I knew that you liked them. I now have a problem. And the reason I'm bringing that up is because she said, listen, that was in my past. I'm not doing anything. I loved him differently because I was on drugs. You're saying, I don't want this woman. I was on drugs. I loved her differently then. So if you're gonna ask for that same forgiveness from her, you gotta be able to give that to her as well. Right?
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Well, I think it's time now to unlock the DNA truth. Latrell. Yeah. Latrell, you took a DNA test to find out if Jennifer's 4-year-old, 2-year-old, and 11-month-old are yours. So let's start with your 11-month-old, Liam. This is not my truth to open, it's yours. So here you go.
Alrighty. I know this is my baby, so. Latrell, he is, Liam is your biological son.
You can smile. How do you feel?
I, after I heard, you know, she wasn't DMing no one, that makes me feel better.
Yeah, okay.
You know, at least secure, more secure than—
More secure. Yeah, that's the word I was looking for. All right, so now let's find out about 2-year-old Bella Mae. In this envelope is the DNA truth. Again, your truth to open, not mine.
Bella Mae is your biological daughter.
All right, now this is the big DNA moment. You have major doubts about 4-year-old Mateo being your son. You've even admitted, you said in the beginning of your relationship, You said, "I told him there's a possibility that Mateo's not yours." This is the beginning of where the trust issue started and has affected your relationship and your family. This is your truth to open, not mine.
Jerome, tell us your biological—
Yeah! Hug your woman!
She ain't cheating, and all them kids is yours, okay?
You better hug your woman. I really hope that being on this show could be a reset and a first step in this relationship. There is no cheating going on. There is nothing but trust and honesty. All children are yours. You are a family. And I pray that being on this show in front of all of us, you realize that moving forward, y'all gotta work as a unit. No one has been out here disrespecting the other person. Nobody has been out here doing anything but being faithful and staying true to your family. Remember that. Remember that. And the next time there's a trust issue come up, y'all say my name. Say Karamo and let that be a reminder to love each other and to communicate better. Because I promise y'all, this is probably, y'all have been in for the past 5 years putting yourself through the wringer for no reason. But it's okay, 'cause tomorrow's a new day.
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