You're Cheating So I Called Off The Wedding! | KARAMO

When and why was your engagement called off?

Oh, so our engagement was called off last year around the end of November.

Okay.

She told me that she was going to her house, which her mom stays with her, and she told me that she was sleeping and I called her mom and her mom's like, "She's not sleeping. We're over here at her sister's house. She's upstairs with that girl." So.

And you know if it's coming from mama, it's the truth.

If it's coming from mama, it's the truth.

Yeah.

It's always gonna be the truth.

So what happens when you ask her about this?

Anytime I ask her about anything, whether it's cheating, the grass being green, or what color she's wearing today, it's a fight. Like it's.

So the temper is just on.

All the time.

So then why do you stay? What is keeping you there?

I'm in love. I love her a lot. I've loved her since probably like the first day I met her. She was, we just like clicked. We were like best friends since we first met. And also she has a daughter who I love.

Do you think she's cheating again?

Yes. I do think she's cheating again. I just recently started a new job. I work like 16 hours every Friday and Saturday. So I'm gone 16 hours a day twice. Every Friday and Saturday. And ever since I started working this new job, it's like I can't get in contact with her. When I come home, she's pretending that she's asleep or it's, she don't touch me at night. And most of the time she won't go to sleep without me.

So after the 6 years of together, the intimacy is fading?

No, the intimacy was there. After this new job, the intimacy is fading.

So this is recent?

It's very recent.

Got it.

And she's getting very distant.

"My producer told me you think that she's talking to an old fling." Old fling.

Yes.

Who is it?

So the old fling is the same girl from her mom telling on her.

Oh.

This girl also showed up. I give away free tablets and phones for the ACP program. So we set up in tents in different cities and different states and we give them away to the needy families.

Yeah.

So one day we were in PA and this old fling, which I call her Big Back 'cause she has a huge back.

You know you shady for that.

I'm not, it's too big.

You know, he been hacked.

It's a really big back. So I'm gonna call her Big Back.

Not Big Back, not Big Back. Okay, call her.

Big Back, Big Back, it's big. So that being said, Big Back showed up to the tent on Friday in PA and she stopped, she said something slick and I said, "Get away from my tent, big back." And she walked away. She walked away. And then on Saturday we were in a whole 'nother state. We were in New Jersey and we were with a couple of friends and we went out to a bar and Tatiana started, like she tried to start an argument with me and I was trying to figure out what was wrong. But I literally laughed it off. And about, I'm gonna say 30 minutes later, guess who walks in this club?

There wasn't a big back. Big back.

It was big back in the club. Big back.

Okay, I gotta tell y'all, I don't know how it's happened, but my audience has literally picked up my personality. Whereas one minute y'all are all compassionate, y'all are in it, and then y'all get messy. Everything. Don't bring a big back with her.

Listen.

They gonna say Big Mack for you. Okay, so Big Mack came in.

Yeah, Big Mack came into the club in New Jersey.

Yeah. When y'all in a different state. So like how did he know we were here?

The very next day. That is not a coincidence.

Okay.

It's just not.

Do you ever go through her phone?

She don't let me go through that phone.

She doesn't let you go through it?

I sneak and go through it from time to time, but she always has mine.

Got it. Well, it's time to meet Tatiana and hear her side of this story. So everyone please welcome Tatiana to the show. Hey Tatiana, how you doing? Nice to meet you. So I need to know from your perspective, why did you call off the engagement?

'Cause it was annoying. She was being annoying. Like it was like once she got the ring, it was more stressful.

It was stressful for you?

Yeah.

Okay then.

What, me being more submissive to you was stressful?

No, it was like, it was just more aggravating. Like it was like a lot going on at the time.

What is more aggravating? Like I made you do more? What made you grow up?

It was being messy. It was a lot messy stuff going on.

So did your relationship change once you got engaged?

Not changed, but a little different, you know?

In what way?

Like the way she be talking, like act like she more act like she was more acting like she was my mom.

Well, if you don't act like I'm your mom, I won't treat you like I am.

Got it. So why did you cheat then?

I felt like I would.

It's my fault. She cheated 'cause it's my fault. 'Cause I said she cheated, so she cheated.

Is that what you said? I'm gonna let you finish your statement. Why did you cheat?

'Cause it was like she kept saying constantly that I was cheating. So I was like, I might well go cheat. Like you saying I'm cheating, I might well go.

But if you cheated, then you cheated.

So why not make a healthier choice and say, well, if you're accusing me of cheating and I'm not cheating, I'm just gonna end this relationship. Why then stay and cheat?

I don't know.

Well, you could have left and cheated and then came back.

She even gave you another path.

She didn't like that path. That was too much.

Are you cheating now?

No.

You're not cheating now. Okay then. So what bothers you the most about this relationship?

How she's just like, she's mad insecure, but I meet her that way though.

Oh, I'm glad you acknowledged that in front of everybody.

Yeah. I mean, it is, it's glad you acknowledged that you had a part in playing her insecurities. Okay then. Does it upset you that she doesn't trust you?

Yeah, a little bit.

Okay. What made you emotional?

If you don't lie about everything, then I would trust you. You literally will lie about the sky.

What just made you emotional?

She cry about everything. Every time I say anything to her, she's attacked. I'm attacking her. She would rather cry and be a baby, so I have to treat her like my baby.

Is that what you feel?

Mommy, no.

Do you feel stuck in this relationship?

Not, no, not stuck.

'Cause if she wanna leave, she can leave. She has every opportunity. I will help her pack, go. I will help her find a house. I will help her move in it. Matter of fact, she has her own home and I have my own. She just never goes home. She only goes home when she wants to cheat.

Okay.

So y'all only go home to cheat?

I don't know about cheating.

Where you at then? Where you at if you're not at home?

If I'm not in the house, I'm somewhere else.

You just said you went home.

At somebody else's house.

You was going home to go home. So if you going home to go home, be home.

Do you still like, do you still love her?

Yeah, of course. It's my everything.

This is your everything?

I don't feel that.

Okay, you don't feel that?

No.

Okay, got it. Is this the first long-term relationship you ever been in?

Yeah.

Okay, and y'all been together 6 years?

Yeah.

Okay. So what do you do to make up to her when you cheat?

Like I take her, try to take her places or cook or—

Or try to have sex. She thinks sex solves everything.

Well listen, I think it's time to unlock the truth.

All that time.

So we unlocked Tatiana's phone. So let's get to these results. Maya wants to know if Tatiana was texting an ex-fling. Tatiana says she is not. Mia unlocked the phone, investigators searched her texts, and she is not telling the truth. He found 3 suspicious text messages. Mia, you also want to know if Tatiana was messaging people on social media. Tatiana says she's not. Mia unlocked the phone, investigators searched her apps, and there were No social media apps on her phone. Now the reason I bring that up, because my unlock the phone investigator made sure that he said this note for me that he needed me to repeat to you all. He feels as if, my unlock the phone investigator found this to be very suspicious for a 24-year-old woman to not have apps on her phone and believes he did not unlock her main phone after going through it.

Oh wow. So you didn't bring your real phone?

I did, that was the phone.

So you switched the phones?

No, that was the phone.

Well, when it comes to phones, both Tatiana, you both told my Unlock the Phone investigator that you have had 3 new phones in the last month.

Yeah.

Which also adds to his suspicion that he didn't get the right phone because as he was going through it, it seemed like it was almost a brand new phone.

I just know I'm not crazy.

So what phone was this that we unlocked? Because we did find the 3 messages that were suspicious in nature, but we, our unlock the phone investigator, he keeps going back and he doesn't feel like this could be the phone. We go through a lot of phones here and so we can tell when a phone's been used, when it has things on it.

But this is the one that I use. It's the one that I got off the phone.

So why would you need 3 new phones though?

So my first one broke and then the second one just got smashed.

All of them broke.

She broke all of them.

On purpose.

She broke them.

Okay, okay. What was your point of view? You said what?

I didn't break them on purpose.

She broke them.

I gotta tell you this right here. So you know that she was talking to somebody 'cause we got 3 suspicious messages that you should talk to. My investigator has said that he doesn't feel as if this was the right phone. But what I'll tell you this from me and point this out, y'all kept saying about this mom thing. And the first thing that shocked me were when you said, that I make you grow up. You know you're in a relationship with someone who is young. I believe you love her dearly, but I don't think you're ready to be in this type of committed relationship, which is fine. And I think what is the problem is that you're playing house and you're playing house with an older woman who is really ready to be in a house with someone and you're not. And I think this relationship about your kids I know the kid and everything has got y'all together, but y'all are unhealthy together. And I don't think she's gonna be able to give you what you need. Also, I would say this, from your point of view, you do act like a mom and you shut her down at every chance that she has lost her voice. So I understand why she talks to other people. She has not been able to communicate.

That is not completely true though.

I can only go by what I, listen, I'm only going by what I say. Nothing that I say can dictate or, can paint a full picture of who y'all are outside of this. I think y'all are both lovely people, but from what I've witnessed here, every time she's tried to say something, you've cut her off immediately.

I didn't ask her to marry me. She asked me to marry her.

I get that.

I told her to go, she won't go.

And that goes to my first place. She's trying to play house with a grown woman.

Right.

She's not ready to play house.

But she won't allow me to be a grown woman on my own.

Hold on, but this is the thing you just said about her. You said that I will help her pack, I will help her move. So why don't you help yourself pack and help yourself move? It has nothing to do with her. It has nothing to do with her. Any woman that can sit in front of me and tell me that they are holding down 2 jobs with no issues, going to work 16 hours on a Friday, a Saturday, a Sunday, you are doing all of this while maintaining your bills and still trying to maintain a relationship. You don't need permission from her to grow. You need permission to tell yourself to get outta this. And I'm not saying you're not a lovely person. I think that you can grow into the most amazing person. Right now, you are not ready to be in this type of relationship and you know it. You know it. You know you love each other, but you know it. And if y'all can be honest with yourselves, y'all will save yourself a lot of heartache because we all see it. I wish y'all the best of luck, John, honestly, I really do. Because I think you're both beautiful and intelligent human beings. I just know that this is not gonna get any healthier right now. I know this. It's not gonna get any healthier.

I mean, it was over anyway.

That's what I'm saying to you.

So clearly you are cheating. Clearly you are. That's why the walk away. That's why you walking away.

'Cause she going, yeah.

Either way.

And she been cheating. She been cheating. And you don't deserve that. You don't deserve that.

I'm over it. If it's over, it's over. Whatever. I'm over it.

I truly hope you stick to that. I hope you stick to that.

I will. I'm sure I will.

All right, good. I wish you the best of luck.

Seriously, listen, I wish you the best of luck.