The Awaken Podcast with Richie Norton

Welcome back, my beautiful friends, to the Awakened podcast. And I am broadcasting from my very new sacred tent outside on my land. So if you hear roosters crowing, cows mooing, it is because we are literally in the middle of farmland right now in a tent overlooking the mountains. And it feels very appropriate because today is, like, kind of the most epic episode, like, ever. I'm geeking out right now. I have Richie Norton on the show. Richie, I'm so happy.

I'm. I'm so excited to. To be here. I'm not as good as you hanging out in a tent, you know what I mean? Just in a room, in a house. But.

But it's in Hawaii, so.

It is in Hawaii. And, you know, I get the ocean, and, you know, we got everything. You know, everything's. Everything's good. My, my. I have a little tiny dog, and I went out on the beach today. We saw all of his dog friends that we usually see, usually individually, but they were all grouped together. And I was like, I don't know what's going to happen. And he really wanted to see him, and they saw him, so I let him go. They all came around him, surrounded him, and I was like, this is, like, the best day of my life. Like, he's living his best life right now.

Oh, my gosh. They had a surprise party for him.

It was seriously this big old party. So today's a good day. It's a good day.

Such a good day. And I just am so grateful you're here. I want to let everyone who's listening or watching know who Richie Norton is for me. And then we'll let you guys, you know, you can share to everyone who you are in the world. But Richie has been an extraordinary piece to my life. He and Ben, they. Ben Hardy, he's been on the show before. They had this writing course. 2017, end of 2017. I was following his wife, Natalie. She's this awesome photographer. I was a huge, huge fan because back in the day, I used to be a photographer, and I was watching her stories, and she said, if you're writing, you need to follow my husband. And I was in the middle of writing my first book, and I hopped over and there was this beautiful webinar between Ben and Richie. And in that moment, like, everything in my life changed. I joined Ben's programs, and I started to follow Richie. And then a few years later, I joined a mastermind with Richie. And Richie taught me so much about how to live the life I want to live and create financial freedom in My business. When I started working with Richie, I was pulling 12 hour days. 12 hour days of work, running a household of five kids, feeling extremely depleted. And also my income wasn't matching my work hours. It was like really, like I was really struggling in business. And Richie taught me something that. I guess maybe we'll dive into this later, but I'm just going to say that what Richie taught me allowed me to sign up my first $15,000 client. They paid up front, so I gave it to him for 12. But that was like the biggest, biggest ask I'd ever done in my business. And it radically changed how, how I did business. From that moment on, my cells increased. Like nine out of 10 people were saying yes on sales calls because of what Richie taught me and how to hear people and how to listen like true selfless cells is what Richie taught me. Um, gosh, like, guys, like, I'm so freaking grateful for Richie and, and we have some big, big stuff coming up together. So that's a really big intro from me. Richie, you know how much I am very grateful for you. Why don't you share with our listeners who you are in the world?

Well, I was just gonna say, I hope out there in the world my mom's listening to this. You know, she's gonna, she's gonna be so proud of me.

That's all we want. That's all we want.

No, that was a very kind introduction. And nothing, honestly, who cares about me? Like, nothing to me is more important than, like, the results that people get based on the results that they either want or something better. And, and hearing you share that makes me realize why share what I share, why I do what I do, because it's not really necessarily about me. There's lots of people teaching all kinds of things, but when somebody uses it and it works, it's a very fulfilling thing. And to hear you say it out loud makes me go like, oh, this is good stuff. You know? You know, you know, you say, you know, sometimes we forget, we forget this is still good stuff. That.

Yeah, it is. Yeah.

No, but, you know, I, as far as my background, I grew up, grew up with San Diego, lived in Brazil for a couple years. I, you know, I live in Hawaii. I did an MBA at Thunderbirds International Business School. I've done lots of things, have. Lots of terrible things happen in my life which we might, we might talk about. But at the end of the day, my main purpose is to give people their time back. And that might sound weird, but, you know, you know, you know, this I'll just. I'll just dive in, like, real quick so people understand. Like, my wife and I, we have four sons in. Our fourth son passed away. He caught pertussis, also known as a whooping cough, and it was just too much on his little body. And there's a whole story about this. But what you also don't know is right before that time, being relative, my wife's brother, who had been living on and off with us for about five years, passed away in his sleep at the age of 21. And when. When these two things happen so close together, I mean, it was just. Nothing's more important, you know, to me than life and helping people and doing these things. And when you. When you lose that and you don't have the ability to do anything about it, it crushed our dreams and obviously crushed literally, like, their time on this earth and made me realize all this stuff about waiting until you retired to do what you want to do wasn't true for them. Not to mention all the thousands of people that I've interviewed over time that told me even when they did follow the plan and they got at the end, they weren't living the life they wanted because they thought they'd have more time, more education, more experience, more money, only to find out when they got there, and they still needed more time, more education, more experience, more money. When my son was in the hospital, a nurse came in and she said, stay the night. Weird thing to say because we always stayed the night. And it wasn't. We never left. I mean, hello. But it was a kind way of letting us know that this was the end. And I remember when they took out all the wires and, I don't know, whatever else was on his body and all the tubes, and he'd just been puffed up with, like, all the medicines they were pumping into him. He just didn't look like himself. And I remember holding him and I handed him to my wife as quickly as I could, and she rocked him and I had my hand on his heart and we sang him lullabies and we just waited for those last beats. But before that happened, we told our. We told our ourselves, like, we can't let this destroy us. We don't know what's going to happen, but we know this could tear us apart. Our family. And we made an intention that we would somehow let his little life bring us closer together, not knowing what the future would hold. And the future held a lot of other terrible tragedies which sometimes seem unfair, but it is what it is. And people. Someone asked me, a mentor, she, she asked me, what did you learn from your brother in law? Passing away from your son? Passed away. And I call it Gavin's Law, which is live to start. Start to live. Because if you live those ideas that are pressing on your mind, wherever they're coming from, you really will start living. What if I fail? So what? You'll learn. What if it works out awesome? Do it again. We can go deep into this stuff and people a lot of times talk about at a surface level, but what's funny is sometimes we also have this thought that because one bad thing happened, then another thing bad won't happen. Not true. You know, we had these wonderful three foster kids for two years. We thought we were going to adopt them. That was our hope. And they ended up not working out a little bit after that. I'm going to pause there. That in some ways hurts more than our, than someone passed away because they're still out there and we don't know if they're okay. This is hard on us. You know, my wife had a stroke, a mini stroke. Lost her memory for a time. She's okay now. But I, like, I saw firsthand our health, how important it is, you know, and she's, she's okay. I had a son get hit by a car crossing the street. He should have died. He was in the hospital for quite some time. I can go on and on and on. But when you tell your story from you're asking who I am and most people will start telling you all their business success. I'm telling you all the terrible things that happened to me because it makes up who I am, why I do what I do more than my successes. And I approach life from the point of view of how precious it is. So at the end of the day, I know this, this, this chat's going to go in a lot of different directions. But I think it's important people understand, like, life's hard. It's a tunnel, not a cave. And that's what people going through grief are always worried about. And you know what? You don't know your future, but you might as well plan for a good one. And you might as well step in into that person that you want to be and make it happen sooner than later. Because if you don't, you're just left to all the things that might happen. You're going to change anyways. You might as well do your best to change within the chaos the best you can. And there are ways to do that.

So my heart Just. I really just honor what you guys have walked and my heart hurts. And I really admire that. You guys have taken the hard and you, you alchemized it into something else. You took the pain and you. You turned it into completely different substance. And I just honor you. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you for being who you are in the world.

We're all just making it up as we go along, aren't we?

We are, yeah. I mean, it's. And I think that that's strong statement to say, but I feel it's so true, is that just because one bad thing happened doesn't mean you're not going to have any more. That, that was like, that's one of my biggest struggles was like, I already went through abuse as a kid, that the rest of my life should be super easy. And it's like that. That's a really hard belief to hold on to because it's not true. And. And instead it's like, how do you turn the hard into something like gold afterwards?

That. That's, that's really true. I remember thinking, how could this happen to me? You know what I mean? Does. Whatever one might. Might believe out there. But I was just like, does God hate me? And then I'm like, hold on, let's think about this. Let's think about this logically just for a second instead of emotionally. And I was like, first of all, a lot of these things aren't really strung together. They're strung together through my life. And a lot of these things didn't necessarily happen directly to me indirectly, which a lot of times is hard, you know, to have it indirect because you can't do anything about it. But then I had this thought. I was just like, you can either blame daddy in the sky for everything that happens in your life now moving forward, or you can love God unconditionally. And when I realized I could love God unconditionally, which is a powerful statement, I don't know why we don't talk about it. But when you, when you, when you love God unconditionally, whether you get what you want or you don't get what you want, once you move past that, you actually bring the power back into your hands and you do something about your life. You know, this is an important message regardless of your belief. As soon as you stop blaming the ether, you can be like, you know what? I can keep my love and my faith and my, my belief and my hope. I can keep that. Stop blaming. And like, every time something bad happens, all of A sudden you. You don't agree with the universe anymore. Yeah, that's a hard way to live, man. Because every day something's changing when you go, like, you know what the highest and best good out there for me is there, and that is what is the intent. All this stuff that's happening right here, I'm going to push through, you know, that doesn't mean it's. You can't just lay in bed and. And be sad. That's cool. Done that a lot. Do that a lot. Just don't. Just don't feel guilty for doing it and don't feel guilty for feeling good when bad things are happening. You know, like, there's a lot. There's a lot to life, but if you want something, you can work towards making it happen. And whether you get it or not shouldn't be dictate whether you couldn't also figure that or something else in the future out, something different, better later. Circumstances change, preparations change. Sure, the past is a predictor of certain things, but in reality, it's a different world just from five years ago. So every day is a new opportunity and a new thing. And so holding on to that hope, but then working with your hands. Strategies in the head, tactics are in the hands. When you put those two together, then you can actually work with your heart and get out of your head. And whatever you're doing with your hands makes sense according to the goal, not circumstance.

I love that. I feel like there's that saying that hard things happen for you, not to. You feel like Ben talks about that a lot harder. These hard things happen for us, not to us. And that's what I've watched you do is over these years, how you've taken the hard that it's worked for you. And one of the things that I love so much that you teach is about how people can transform the way they deal with their time. Your whole motto, and this is what changed my life with you, Richie, is when you asked me, I remember you asked me in a mastermind call.

What.

Are you working so hard for? Because I want to bring in this income for my family and I want to do good in the world and I want to spend more time with my kids. And I remember you asking me, how old are your kids? And I remember saying their ages. And you were like, so you have got like a few years left before some of them leave. And it was like a dagger to my heart, like, oh, my gosh, I'm running so fast to get somewhere that they're going to be gone by the time I maybe get there. And that's when I changed everything. It was like, I'm done with work at 3pm the end. I go to skate parks with my kids after school, I go to the river. Work ends for me at three. And as soon as I made that declaration, business changed for me. The success happened a lot easier. Things were better in my house.

Um, I love it.

And I think that's what you teach.

Wow. Wow. That's super. That's super powerful. I think even for someone who doesn't. If you just look at everything objectively and, and even just for a moment, those, you know, I won't talk to anyone but that they don't, they don't necessarily agree there's anything else happening than what's happening. Fine. What I'm trying to say is, even objectively, the meaning you assign to whatever is happening affects you personally and it affects your future. So when you were assigning meaning to your work to say, I'm going to work this hard for this long so I can have time with my family in the future, you worked that way.

Yeah.

When we decided to just look at it from another angle or a perspective from, from the perspective of actual time and also in real time and also from the perspective of what your real goal was. More time with your family in this circumstance. In that sense, you were able to go, wait a second, I need to assign not the meaning of my work to hang out with them in the future, but the meaning of my work to hang out with them right freaking now.

Yeah.

That changed the way you operated. So changing how you, how you're paid changes your life. And this isn't like we're saying you, because you're telling this, this good story, but I mean, this is something we were taught like literally and intentionally in the Industrial revolution. Like you work for this amount of time. You're coming from the farms to these cities. Here's how it's all going to operate here. What's going to happen to your children while you're at work? This is no joke. And we've been living this way through management through the 20th century. We're now like a decent way through the 21st century. But these principles that we think, I'm going to wait till later, you have to ask yourself, where do you think that thought came from? Because I don't, I don't know, but I don't think people always thought that way because they didn't know how long they'd live. People lived to be what 30 years old, you know what I mean? Like, there is no such thing as this. And so. But. But we do know where it came from. Management said if you work for me forever till you're 65, then you can have your time back and you'll live a great life. We were taught time management to say, it's better for me that you sacrificed your life for the promise of a better future, and we believed it. Than to say, now it's a different world now, so it's more accessible, but now we can go. Actually, you know what? I can kind of do anything I want now. And if I have strategic intent, I can create work that supports my dream, not that works towards my dream. Working towards your dream is a never ending escapade. And you are more likely to live your dream in the future by living in the present. How can I do that? One step at a time. Going out at the moment. Let me ask you this. The moment you decided you're going to end work earlier so you can have time with your kid, your children and whatever, how did that. It becomes a forcing function of thought. How did you start thinking differently about work? I'm just curious.

You know, it was just like, this is. It just became like, what was so right? Like, hey, I take my last client at this time of the day and even if it's a phone call, I have to be really. Like, sometimes I watch myself go back into old patterns. Like, oh, it's just a phone call at 5, it's just a phone call at 6. It's like, no, like I have to catch myself because that old behavior wants to come back. But it really was just simply a decision. And then it just became like, that's what my calendar says.

These are. It's called this is. That's so. It's so true. They're called constraints. And there's positive constraints. And people don't realize that constraints can free us if you choose the right ones. Like for me, I decided 20 years ago, before Facebook even went freaking public, to become like, what it is today or what it's not today. You know, time changes. I decided I'm only going to do work if I can do it from my cell phone. It had nothing to do with the cell phone. I didn't want to be in an office and I didn't want to have to have to lug around a computer. It doesn't mean I can't use a computer when I don't want to. It doesn't mean anything. But what it means is I Can be in Scotland or I could be in Thailand or I could be in Hawaii or I could be in California and the work still gets done. If I hadn't told, this is a simple one to think about, but if I hadn't told myself that, I wouldn't have been able to think, oh dang, how am I going to get this project done if I'm not there? Yeah, I, that, that the solution never would have came to my mind. So when you, like you're saying, when you create positive constraints around your dreams, you're. You allow your brain the space, you create space to solve the problem.

It's almost like, it's almost like I see this like the question like you wouldn't be asking yourself the questions that are going to give you the right solutions if you didn't have those constraints. So I never asked myself, well, how do I fit 8 hours of clients and all these things into a shorter amount of time. I wouldn't have asked that if I hadn't created that constraint. And asking it created. Stop working with so many one on ones and create a mastermind. Kira that's why my mastermind was really born, was like from that space I had to ask a new question. So I got a different solution.

That's exactly right. We all know that work, Parkinson's law work expands the amount of time allotted. And we've all had those all nighters where we got our work done heroically. You know, you can get it 8 depending. Depends on the job. I get it. But we all know you can get in a regular 9 to 5 as long as it's not like you're waiting on other people to tell you what to do. But if it's just work you're trying to get done, you could get that eight hours of work done in an hour. Why don't you? Because you have to be there for eight hours. So you stretch it out. You know, you talk to Bob and you do this thing right and this is the way our life goes. Not just people don't realize this. There is literally like you might think there's a difference between work and home. But if you look at it even through data, a filter of like how you spend your time. We spend our time the same way. Little, little Susie, she has time to figure this out. See what I'm saying? Like, like, like as soon as you start thinking differently around your goals. Put it this way, an architect doesn't build buildings. An architect draws them. But a building is not possible without the architect. A general contractor does not swing a hammer. Unless the general contractor wants to swing a hammer. The general contractor subs it out. Entrepreneurs if they want to. It makes me so sad when entrepreneurs say, I'm working so hard, I have no time, I'm grinding. Entrepreneurship is so much harder than a regular job. It makes me sad because I'm like, because you chose to do that. You're designing your own world as an entrepreneur. So you took time management principles from corporations, put them into your business, and you wonder why you have no time. What do you. What are you doing? If you wanted more time, you would have designed the business around time, not around making money to have time later. So, for example, I had a guy tell me he's an executive, he's making $250,000 a year. He's like, yeah, I need more time with my, you know, my family and whatever. And I'm like, that's cool. And he goes, he's a great guy. It all could have worked out. But I started asking more questions, you know, and he's going to do whatever he's going to do, but he's like, I'm going to start a gym. Okay, cool. How many. How's this going to work? He says, we'll take five years to be profitable. I'm going to need two of them. And I'm like, great. Who's going to open and close it? Because you told me you wanted to live for two months out of the year in Italy. Who's going to open and close this thing? And he's like, I will. He called himself a micromanager. And I go, cool. And similar to what you said, how old are your kids? Oh, 113, 115. Oh, okay, so you're telling me that in five years, when your kids are 18 and 20 and out of the house, you're going to finally have time for them, huh? That's not to say you couldn't still have a gym. There's the 24 hour access card. Whatever thing could have been done online. It could have been. It could have hired someone to run it for him. It's not a. It's not about the thing. It's about how you operate the thing of whether you have time or not for your dreams.

Oh, it's so good. It's so good. And what's so exciting is that Richie just wrote a book about time. And I am, like, telling everyone who's listening, watching, you're going to want this book in your life because when you understand how to look at time differently, you live A different life. It has nothing to do with money. It has nothing to do with any of these other pieces that we all think is going to make us happier. Time is like the baseline. So I'm also feeling really special because Richie has not shared the title of his book yet and he's sharing it today.

This is true.

This is true on the show. So, Richie, I'm going to let you share the title of your new book.

Well, I'll just say it. This book's called Anti Time Management. And it's an important title because everything that we've looked at in the past, bringing it to the future, and I'm thinking for, even for the next hundred years, revolves around an era where we're living in what I'm calling. You've heard of like post industrial revolution. We're now entering a world of post management. And anti time management doesn't mean, like, we hate time management. It means we're going to create the thing that we want to now instead of using a stick and carrot method. And I have a methodology that I call time tipping. The power of time tipping. It's a secret power, secret superpower. Even though there's no real secrets out there, the secret is in application. But at the end of the day, yes, we know very clearly that work life balance is a myth. Nobody has balance. Every successful person I've talked to that others have talked to, if you talk to anyone and you ask them about balance, they will get a sad look on their face and a little smirk because they know they got to where they are without balance. And usually it's at the expense of their family. And for entrepreneurs that try to create things for their family at the expense of them, that just doesn't make sense anymore, man. It just doesn't make sense anymore. Let's get beyond that. So the idea of anti time management is getting beyond goals, beyond habits, beyond strengths, to where we really want to live, which Aristotle called final cause. The goal of the goal, the reason of what we're doing, the atmosphere we're creating, this is essential. And I can, I can share more of how to do that and why. But at the end of the day, when you think of balance in physics, as far as I understand, something that's balanced is motionless. That is the definition. And if you want a life that doesn't move either way, you're going to be surprised that that doesn't happen. And so the goal is to intentionally misbalance your life in the direction you want it to go.

That's so good. I Love that.

And to do that. I love castles and I love, you know, seeing these things all over the world. But the idea is to build the castle and live in the castle and then build economic and strategic moats around it to support and protect you and your family and the things you love to do and the work you love to do. Because most people spend their time in the moat. That's their work. And they never reach the castle. All they had to do was start with the castle and they would have lived an entirely different life. How can two people who have the same income, doing the same job lead completely different lives? Now, I don't just mean, like what they want or where they're from and what they're doing. I mean, with their available time, there are two people. One has all the time in the world for the things they want to do, and the other one does not. Why? Purpose, priorities, payments, principles, practices, and I call it prolifics. All the P's.

Yeah.

If you operate your life around the actual purpose of the project. Yeah. People, people. You know, I'm a student of the coveys and you know, they talk about beginning with the end in mind. Everyone, everyone knows that. But people forget that it was beginning with the end in minds, not begin with the end in mind, not means in mind. There's a lot of ways to climb a mountain. Is the goal to see the sunset? You don't even need to climb it. Do you want to be on top of the mountain? You could get in a helicopter. You could ride a donkey. Sure, you could hike. People all get always get stuck in what they think they have to do and not in what they actually need to do versus what they want to do or even outsourcing what they don't want to do. There's too much in that statement. But you get the idea.

Nothing's too much because this is, I mean, this is how we create. It's like. It's almost like a little bit like the law of attraction. Right. You got to live as though it's so first before you bring it into your world. And you're saying like, stop running and trying to get to the castle, just like, be in it already. Live that life. And when you live just like the energy of the universe naturally supports that.

I could use a lot of examples. But since you and I are talking like, you know, you talked in the beginning. Oh, all of a sudden with a few questions, you know, magically, you know, you're able to have time with your family and make more money than you've Ever made. How? How is that possible? How is that possible? What happened?

So for me, what's interesting is it was simply restructuring the way I thought I had to do business. Right. Like you were like, stop trying to get 50 people to buy a $200 thing. Your value, Kira, is when you work one on one or in a small group of people, you change their lives. Stop trying to do this huge, huge number. And so what I did is I just raised my prices and really gave immense value, like so much value in those one on ones, those masterminds, at a higher price. So that shifted my money, but then just also shifting that, like, I mean, it was really hard because workaholic is in my genes and so I had to totally like pull it out of my system or like, no, I'm going to the skate park and I'm not bringing my laptop.

That's right.

Because I would like trick myself all the time. Like, I'm gonna bring my laptop, but I'm at the skate park, you know.

Well, this is, this is important because what? It's both sides, two sides of the same coin. Here's the problem. The richest people in the world have zero time. They have no time. Ask them. They have no time for this. They have no, I have no time for this. Now they might just be selective and maybe they have too many projects, whatever, but that was a choice. So even if you started making more money, all that would mean is that you're going to keep making money and not have time. But if you tell yourself, I'm going to put time. And you can put, you can replace the word time with whatever your real purpose and priority is, you know, because my whole thing is stopping managing time. Start prioritizing attention.

Oh, say that one more time. That's so, so good.

Yeah, yeah. Stop managing time. Start prioritize. Stop managing time. Start prioritizing it. Too many, too much.

I love that. So powerful.

And so it's not fooling yourself to think that more money means more time. Sure, sure, it affords you the ability to have more time, but I've seen no judgment. But I've seen too many people who make more money and then decide to fill their newly found available opportunities, they will fill them with more work. Yeah, no judgment. I'm just saying if you can free up your time and your space and your reprioritize your life and your goals and be able to reclaim your time. Yeah. This should happen from the start, not the end end. Because it'll so good when you start with money at the center of your, of your ability to have more time. You create systems that are cemented. All of a sudden you're making a million dollars and you, you have a system that cemented you inside of it. If you had started that same company business idea, it is entirely possible to make the same money, but have time as the income. And so you expand. And you're sure making all this money, or like in your case, the positive constraints of having less time for work force you to positively force you to raise your prices to work more effectively and more efficiently. You know, all that is a good thing. But when you put time as the actual goal, or rather your purpose and your priorities as the actual goal, this also expands as your new system. The people always say, oh, what about scalability? Or should I do things that don't scale? The best companies at scale are the ones that don't need you. Yeah, that's why you should start a business that doesn't need you. Or rather make strategic choices to do the things you want to do and not the things you don't. Otherwise you created yourself a snare, not a startup. There's a difference between a startup and a snare. And I think I'm all about entrepreneurship. Do your own thing. You don't have to quit your job if you don't want to. But if you, if you really want this thing, stop thinking in the industrial age that you have to wait 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 years to have it. You can still create all your goals and more if you want to, but use the positive constraint of being able to take your kid to ballet if you want to. What's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong with that. And if your boss doesn't like that, tell your boss that it's okay. You'll still get the work done. Hello, boss. You want to fire me because of this? Look, we. I'm not saying be a jerk about it, but you should have talked about that when you, when you were interviewed for the job. Yeah, and if you want a new job, sure. But now, today, we're so lucky. When I was doing this, no one thought this was possible. Now everyone can see that it's possible. And companies are paying people not to come into the office. That's going to change. That's going to change. They're going to want them to come back. But now that we've all gotten a taste of what's possible, why would we want to do things that we don't want to do, Some will want to work in an office. Because they're escaping their family. I get it. Whatever. I mean, maybe I don't get it, but I understand. It's not about what it is. It's about what you want and not fooling yourself into thinking that operating in one way will get you something that it never will. An acorn becomes an oak tree. If you want free time, start with time. Yeah.

Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited about this book. I'm so, so, so. I'm really excited for people to allow this different mindset to come in and change the results in their lives. Because there's a lot of different things out in the world. Like, if you do this, it'll change your life. But like, really, if we could figure out how to, like, time tip. I love that life gets to be different. And that's for the stay at home mom who's managing the house. That's for the dad who's going to work. That's for all the entrepr. It's. It's for every single person. So in my excitement of your new book, you and I are doing this beautiful collaboration of a live pop up summit with Richie Norton on Tuesday the 15th. That's literally in almost like, what, six days from when this podcast is going live. Anybody and everybody can come on live and ask you questions about this or anything else that you really teach, which is crazy exciting.

Oh, and I'm super excited. I'm really glad that you're doing this and helping me so much to spread the message. I seriously am so, so, so grateful. I just think everyone should know that time tipping is a learnable skill. The same way you can learn to ride a bike, the same way you can learn to read. Learning how to tip. Time is a learnable skill. It's hard to think because we've learned how to manage our time in one way. That's why we do the things we do. But we live in a new world under new circumstance. It's changed a lot. And these are principles that have worked for generations. It's just now there's even more fertile ground, so to speak, and more opportunities than ever. But if you're unaware of the tools, how can you use them? So I'd like to help you become aware of the tools so you can apply them to your purposes and dreams.

Oh, I love that. You know, the image I just saw when you were speaking was like, if you had a house that was really rickety and then like a storm came and broke it down, you would never rebuild it in the exact same rickety way. You would never take old pieces of wood and rusty screws and rebuild a rusty house. And it's like this is the gift of what has happened in the last two years is that every system has broken. Let's use it to rebuild brand new ways and not take the old rusty pieces that fell apart and rebuild the old ways.

Absolutely. You can totally rebuild in a new way. It's never too late. You know, I really believe your best days are ahead of you. It's not about age or skill or money. It's about deciding what you want and working in a way that is strategic, that can make it happen. Your. Your castle and then creating economic moats around it to protect you so that you're. Imagine if your work supported your dream as opposed to you waiting to have your work eventually be done so that you can live one. This is an entirely different way of operating, but it's also entirely possible to do immediately.

Oh my gosh. I love it. Richie, I'm so excited. So I want to. I'm going to give a little pitch here. Is that everyone who's listening, everyone who's watching, however you're listening to this message is I want you to come to our live pop up summit because it's very rare to be coached like one on one with Richie, like to ask questions and have him answer. And you're going to get this in our live pop up, like Magic Summit. We don't even have a real name for it because that's just kind of how. That's how I roll.

I like the Magic Summit.

A magic time tipping summit. That's what this is. And you'll get to come and if you have questions that you are like you've listened and they're burning your heart, send me a message on Instagram. Kira Paulson. Literally, like, hey, here's the question I have. I'll give it to Richie. He'll be able to answer it in the way, you know, he'll have time to think about it. And even if you don't send it, come and ask Live because it's going to be so powerful.

This is true. I love it. I'm super excited about it. Just, just remember, like, life is crazy. Regardless of how hard things are for you right now or whatever is happening, all of that is real. We're not saying discard that or even move on necessarily from that. We're talking about learning from it moving forward. But even in the midst of the chaos, how can you improve your life, your business, instead of waiting for that real dream to happen later. How can you make the dream begin it now and then build around it to support it? This is. It's just not talked about. It's not talked about enough. And there's not enough people that are aware that it's possible. But these principles work, and they've worked for a lot of people. And it'll work for you, too. You just got to apply it 100%.

Oh, they've worked for me. And I, like, feel like I just got, like, a taste of it. Like, I can't wait to dive in and really read the whole book because there's so much. There's so much more for me to learn. I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful you wrote this book.

You're so nice to me.

No, I am. You know, there's one thing about me is that, like, I don't know how I'm not a good liar. I really suck at it. And when I have gratitude, like, I literally, like, I can't express it enough. I am so freaking grateful for what you've taught me in my life, for the mentor you've been. And I'm so honored that we get to do this pop up summit so that other people get to jump into this magic. Because if everybody could learn this, their daily life automatically shifts, and that creates a better life.

Me too. I'm so excited for this. You know, sure, people can learn things that I share, but I learned so much from what other people are sharing. We're able to talk about it in terms of your life. It's like, you know when you read a book for the second time and it seems like a different book? That's because your life's changing. You're applying it differently. This is a new world. Like, the things we're going to talk about may be new to you, and some of them might be like, oh, that's pretty obvious. But is it, you know, if you were. If it were, why weren't you doing it already? Like, so at the end of the day, the methodology, the system, the. The possibility of creating a new way of living that isn't necessarily some weird transaction, but an actual transformation. It's good stuff.

It is. So with that, Richie, I just want to thank you for coming on. I'm so excited. We'll have the link in my bio. We'll put it in our show notes. You guys can jump in, register to come. This is a free summit. This is just come, enjoy, learn, participate, and it's going to be pretty magical.

Thank you. So much. You're amazing. That was really fun. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm excited to see you guys soon. It will be great.

Yes. And I always end with a little, like, visualization. So I want to thank everyone for coming today. And as you guys leave, I want you just take a nice deep breath in and I want you to imagine that the shape that you've always thought that you were just moved a little bit. Like all of a sudden it became malleable, changeable. And I want you to just kind of breathe in and let the belief change that time is not movable, that time is always fleeting, that there is insane stead a way for you to transform it so that you live a deeper and richer life. So that is my send off today. And until then, my friends, I will see you next week on the Awakened podcast.

Thank you.