How This Entrepreneur Got Jacked Training Less and Working More
In this interview, Lucas Wilhelm Hedenbäck speaks with Bash, a 29‑year‑old Australian who joined Lucas’s six‑month fitness and lifestyle coaching program while juggling a full‑time job and an online business. Bash describes his chaotic pre‑program life—no system, erratic training, excessive caffeine, and chronic sleep deprivation—leading to poor results despite long gym sessions. After enrolling, he received a structured system delivered via an app, clear workout plans, nutrition guidance, and daily coaching support, which eliminated decision fatigue. Within six months he reduced workout time to 40‑50 minutes, saw double the physical progress, achieved a six‑pack, and enjoyed more flexible eating. Improved sleep (7‑8 hours) and reduced caffeine boosted his energy, focus, and confidence, translating into better business productivity. Bash also highlights the community and personal rapport with Lucas, describing the coach‑client relationship as a friendship that offers rapid, on‑demand answers. He recommends the program to others hesitant about time constraints, framing it as a worthwhile investment that transforms every aspect of life.
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Before I signed up, my life was so messed up. Like, there is no system. Just working full-time job, come back, caffeine, try to focus on my business. Like, I used to be on and off when it comes to training. I used to go to the gym training for hour and a half, hour 20 minutes, almost hour and a half, and I didn't see the results. Now I'm training less, like within 40 minutes to 50 minutes, and I can see the double what I used to train back then by myself. Like, He helped me a lot with focusing on a lot of corners of my life. There is system, like when you have system, like I can organize and manage my day from the morning until I sleep. I know what's next, tick off, next, tick. I'll look back after 6 months, probably one of the best decisions I have ever made. Like, thank God I made it and I took that decision, took that step, and just started all in.
Okay, awesome. Welcome everyone. I'm here with my man Bash. Bash, please go ahead and introduce yourself. Who am I here with?
Hi everyone, my name is Bash, 29 years old, from Australia. I have joined the program, I would say, 5 months ago. In the beginning, I was so worried because I have like a full-time job. and building my online business on the side. And I was so worried in case of I'm not going to be able to put the efforts and the time. And like, I was a bit confused if I'm going to be able to make it or not. And then I pushed myself and joined that program. It was an amazing journey. Obviously, Lukas changed my life. If I look back 6 months ago, It's 5, 6 months. Yeah, almost 6 months. It's been like a completely different journey, like changed my life. Um, yeah, like in the beginning I was so stressful, like I'm not gonna be able to do it. Like, and I was training on and off, but I don't have that structure. I don't have the actually the system like for the program, like just watching videos on YouTube, but you get lost by So after when I joined the program, it's completely game changer.
Nice. Straight into it. Bas, talk more about where you were before, because we, as you said there, you're working, starting your own business as well. Like, what do you think was the main thing holding you back?
Honestly, because I was training before that, but because I don't have structure and I don't have the system, just tried to learn everything through like YouTube, searching whatever the right workout. I said to myself, like, it's going to be the same thing. Like, I don't have the time. I don't know what I'm doing. You know what I mean? But after when I joined the program, like, there is actually a structure, system, and you helped me a lot when it comes to managing like the time, like the way how I'm training, everything. Like, I don't have to worry. Like, I used to get worried when I'm going to the gym because I know I'm going to train, but I don't know what I'm training. Yeah. Like, for example, I'm doing chest, doing first workout, for example. What's next? I have to figure out, like, am I doing upper, lower? You know what I mean? It's completely lost. And then, but when I joined the program and download like everything, like the system, the program, he gave it to me, it's completely game changer. Like, even now when I go, I'm going to the gym, I have the app, everything. I don't have to get worried. It's like I have a personal trainer next to me. I know what's next, the video, like reps, like everything. It's like a complete person trainer next to you. You don't have to get worried.
Yeah, no decision fatigue. That's, that's where it's at. Yeah. Okay, Bash, in with your or in your own words, what have we been able to achieve in these initial six months? Like where were we? Where are we right now? What have you we been able to achieve?
Man, it's a complete game changer. Like, honestly, like I said in the beginning, I was so worried because my head just focused on I'm trying to build my business and the word investment in my head just in business money. But after joining the program, it was a real, real investment. Like, after 6 months looking back, like I'm checking the photos, everything, like a complete game changer. Honestly, like it's a real investment. It was actually worth it. Like now I'm getting almost to the end of the program and I really, really, I've mentioned that before, like I want to rejoin the program again. Maybe I don't need it, but you just have built that community that I don't want to get out of it. Like I want to stay around that community. Everything like so nice, honestly.
Yeah. What do you think we did different compared to what you've seen and what you've done previously?
Results, honestly, what I have achieved like within 6 months, like by myself, like before they joined everything by myself, like I wasn't able to reach that results. Like I would say I need at least minimum more than 1 year to get what I'm stable at the moment. Like the level that I'm reaching at the moment within 6 months, like I need at least 1 year if I can reach it, you know what I mean? And I was like understanding the whole structure, the whole game completely wrong. Like, I was so wrong because you want to try to get the answer like for some sort of kind of like a workout, but you have 10 different opinions on YouTube, 10 different answers. Like, everything is completely— like, you get lost. Like, everyone telling you a different scenario. Like, you're stuck in the middle. But when you're focusing with one structure, one system, that's it. You can see the results that after day. Like, honestly, I was at one stage, I can see the results every single session, like week after week. And that was impossible for me. Like, I need 2 months to see the difference. Now I can see results like week after week. Like, honestly.
Yeah, obviously you've been getting absolutely jacked, Bash. And how, I guess in your own words, how has You know, dropping that fat and, you know, putting on some serious size at the same time change your life outside of just fitness?
That was my dream in the beginning, just to get that flat stomach and get that six-pack. But in my head, it's so difficult, like, without using other stuff, you know what I mean? Like, whatever you see, like I said to myself, it's impossible to get that flat stomach, six-pack, whatever And then with obviously like with the right system and like I can even eat other stuff. Like before I joined, I was just focusing chicken, rice, just limited. Like you didn't enjoy the food, you don't enjoy nothing and you can't see the results. Like there is something not right. And then obviously I started to eat clean, focus on my food. Like the way I'm training, it's completely different. I used to go to the gym training for hour and a half. hour, 20 minutes, almost hour and a half, and I didn't see the results. Now I'm training less, like within 40 minutes to 50 minutes, and I can see the double what I used to train back then by myself because obviously there is right structure and system.
Yeah. And how is that— how has that helped you in, in business, in confidence, in all these things around? How is like— yeah, how is the results? Affected everything else.
Honestly, like, like I said, you have helped me with a lot of things. Whatever I stuck in, send you a message, boom, get the answer on the same day. Anything like I'm lost with, I don't know the answer, or I don't know what to do, send you a message, boom, get the answer. You have helped me a lot, not just with my fitness, like with my lifestyle. Like even you're part of my success for the last 6 months. I've achieved some success with my business Thank God. But you're part of it because I was completely lost. Like I said, just running on caffeine, 5 cups of coffee every day, 6 plus, sleeping 4 or 5 hours, trying to work more than 10 hours every day plus full-time, whatever. Like completely lost. I don't know what to do. And then you started to mention everything about sleeping, focus on sleep, and I started to see more benefits, like improving more. Like I started, I used to sleep like 4 hours every day, 5 hours sometimes running in caffeine the whole day. But when I started to focus on sleep, sleep more hours, I'm trying to sleep 7 to 8 hours every day. And I started to improve in every corner of my life, business, fitness, focusing more, see the results.
Yeah, I know you had that grind mindset in the beginning. You were like, oh, I just want to work, work, work. I told you, I was like, Bash, you got to listen to me. If you don't sleep, your work is gonna be shit, your training is gonna be shit, your recovery is gonna be shit. Like, it's from 8 hours, you invest a bit of time in the sleep, but the ROI you get out of that, priceless.
100%.
I know that was one of the flips we had to switch.
In my head, the idea of sleeping 8 hours, it's kind of like a waste of time because I don't have the time because I'm doing like a full-time job plus building my business on the side. So in my head, I can't sleep that 8 hours, 4 to 5 hours max, and just the rest of the day running on caffeine. And I need to put more hours on my business after finishing my full-time job so I can get more results, whatever. And then I started to sleep in 8 hours like you told me and get rid of the caffeine, demand on the caffeine, sleeping 8 hours. I actually started to get more results. It's completely different because like you said, Quality over quantity.
Like, 100%, bro.
About 10 hours, like, I started to get like whatever I'm doing within 4 hours, it's like I did 10 hours back then because I can focus. There is clarity with the sleeping. Like, it's a completely game changer, honestly.
Okay, Bash, what did you find the most valuable in, in working with me and in the program?
Look, I have joined other programs, not in terms of fitness, like business, like for my business, whatever. It's just the most important thing for me, the actual relationship between me and Lucas, it's completely different. Like when you're talking to him, it's like you're talking to your friend, normal messages, you know what I mean? You can whatever, like, what's up bro, how was your day, blah blah blah. Like it's like you're talking to your friend. Like you don't have to be like other programs, like for my business, whatever. Like you have to be very strict, very limited. That's it, 1, 2, 3, end it. But here I'm so comfortable, honestly. Like not because I'm talking to him, but it's like you're talking to your friend, like brothers, you know what I mean? Send videos, WhatsApp, how was your day? Send some questions, whatever help you need, you get the answer straight away on the same day. Like so comfortable. And honestly, like I want to actually keep around that community. Like I want to rejoin the program just to stay around you, around the boys. It's honestly so, so different, like, they're actually comfortable, like, game changer, honestly.
Yeah, I think that's the— that's one of the things that I like a lot. A lot of my clients is kind of— it's the same as you, but it's just like that brotherhood almost rather than coach-client. It's like, I, I just know one time we're gonna meet up, you know, I'm gonna give you a big fucking hug, we're gonna have a good workout somewhere, we're gonna eat a good steak You know, and yeah, it's just 100%. It's nice. It's good. Okay, Bash. Obviously, you had you had a bit of time hesitation before joining. It was like you know you're focusing on your business. You don't know if you have time with this. Was there anything else that you were a bit hesitant, hesitate, or had some hesitations around when when you signed up?
Like honestly, before I signed up, my life was so mess. Like there is no system, just working full-time job, come back, caffeine, try to focus on my business. Like I used to be on and off when it comes to training. I don't train, like I wasn't consistent every day, sometimes missing 1 week, 2 weeks. Like there is no system, like just like so messy. But like I said, after I signed up, joined that program A lot of things, a lot of things changed in my life in terms of fitness, food, sleep, even my business. Like, he helped me a lot with focusing on a lot of corners of my life. Like, now I have like a stable life. Like, I'm still grinding, still focusing on my business, obviously, but there is system. Like, when you have system, like, I can organize and manage my day from the morning until I sleep. I know what's next. Tick off next tick. Like in the beginning, I didn't have that system because you have teach us like a lot of things in terms of sleep, how many hours you sleep, how do you eat, how do you train. Like that will help you even with your business to improve better, to change day after day. And the community, obviously, like the group, amazing. So that will help you on with every single corner of your life, like everything.
Yeah, awesome, Bash. And if someone is listening to this, they're kind of finding themselves in the same situation as you were, you know, they are focusing on their business, they want to grow that, they feel like they don't have a lot of time on their table, but they still want to dial in their health. What advice do you have to that person?
Honestly, I'm probably one of the most people I was so I'm not going to say scared, but I would say so confused. Should I join? Yes, no, yes, no. I don't know, like, because I don't have the time for it. And then I'll look back after 6 months, probably one of the best decisions I have ever made. Like, thank God I made it. And I took that decision, took that step, and just started all in. Because a lot of things changed in my life. Because the idea of Changing your body and your business, everything is the same level growing up together day after day. You just feel in the beginning maybe it's hard. Like you think about it. Should I do it? I don't have that time. Whatever. But I'm looking back six months back. Thank God I made it. Like the best decision. It was a real investment. Was actually worth it. Honestly.
Yeah. No, I love it. Awesome, Bash. I think I covered what I wanted to cover. Obviously, once again, huge shout out for or to you for putting your trust in me and also executing. You've been putting in the work. You know, you're 100% one of the hardest working, working and dedicated clients that I know, bro. So it's, it's really fun to see. You're always on top of everything. It's as I told you as well. One of the things that Bash did in most clients— this is pretty funny. I've told you this as well. Most clients, you know, when they started sending some workout videos, it's like, okay, I have to correct a lot. Bash, I don't know how you did this, but you studied my, my, my videos to a T. And the first time you sent over the videos, it was perfection. I was like, this guy has properly sat down and looked at everything in detail. He hasn't just skimmed through. Like, this guy is the real deal. He's actually serious with the work he's putting in. And obviously, that's how you get the results, right? So yeah, no, it's super fun to see. All right, Bash, good stuff. Any final words to the people listening or yeah?
Tell me. Anyone in my position, scared, confused, should you do it or not? Trust me, do it and you're going to thank me later. 6 months later, you're going to be a completely different person and you're going to be a completely different person of every single corner of your life. Not just like fitness, everything. It's a life changer, honestly. Go ahead.
Yeah, awesome. I appreciate the bash. Thanks for the little talk and hope you guys got some of your questions answered out of this.
Good stuff. Thanks, man.
