How to Build a Gut That Eliminates Parasites Automatically

Lucas Wilhelm Hedenbäck explains why parasite cleanses often fail: they kill your microbiome, the actual defense against infection. Instead, rebuild stomach acid, bile flow, sleep, and a diverse microbiome through bitters, fermented foods, zinc, and stress management. Parasites only establish when your gut is already compromised.
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Because everyone and their grandmother is talking about parasites and parasite cleanses right now, right?
You can't go anywhere on the internet without seeing someone talk about parasites and this detox protocol fixed all my issues and this and that. And it's painted as this devil and this enemy that we have to fight off. But this is not the reality of it because parasites and bacteria is something that we live in symbiosis with. You will always get exposed to parasites. So the question should never be, how to kill it off, because killing off the parasites usually come with a massive downside, and that's exactly what I'm gonna break down for you here. And instead, we should be asking why does the parasites view us as a host in the first place, rather than just passing through our system with all these internal defense mechanisms that we actually have in place. So instead of how can we kill this, no, why is my system not working properly? And in this video that I'm about to show you, it's a private call from all my, or from my coaching program. This was a requested topic, so I broke it down in detail Every single thing I know why you shouldn't do all these bullshit parasite cleanses and what you should be exactly what you should be doing instead in order to to prime your body to make sure that these parasites that are passing through is not actually sticking. And it's the same thing for SIBO, SIFO, Candida, all sorts of bacterial overgrowth. It's exact same thing. We have to understand that we're constantly going to get exposed to these things. What we should be focusing on is making sure we're not creating an environment where they can thrive. I want you to think about mold real quick. Where does mold grow? Dark, cold, moist places, right? If you have a dry, warm, or dry, warm surface, right, no mold is gonna grow. So what's the difference? Well, it's the environment, and your gut works exactly the same. So stick, watch this fully through, and I'm explaining to you exactly how to approach this instead. Stop with all these bullshit cleanses because they're only gonna cause more problems than good. You're gonna kill it off, but you're gonna cause even more problems, and then this spiral is just gonna continue. Watch this, understand this topic, and enjoy.
This is gonna be a game changer.
Parasites popping up, um, like, you know, with the cooking steaks medium rare. I eat raw eggs, you know. I think, I think they're just kind of everywhere.
Um, yeah.
I kind of try to maintain with eating raw garlic, oil of oregano every day. Uh, just, it's super intriguing to me and like, it's impossible to know sometimes, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good.
Then this is gonna be good for you. Uh, we have a lovely contribution from Charles. These pictures are directly from Charles, uh, uh, 6 months or not, not 6 months ago, 6 months before. So this must be like a bit more than a year ago. Charles, when he saw the topic, he sent over this. So he's done a bunch of parasite cleanses basically, but obviously they've always been coming back, which is the funny thing. Now, but I think this is a very interesting topic because a lot of— it's as you said, Frank, as well, like a lot of people right now online especially, everyone is talking about parasites as kind of the They're painted as the devil and kind of, oh, this is the issue to all the world's problem, you know. It's like, it's always, oh, you have parasites or this and that, and whatever symptoms you might have, it's like, oh, it's parasites, it's parasites, right? That's how everyone kind of views it. And I mean, it's pretty easy to demonize something that is like a fucking worm living inside of us. It's pretty easy to just like, oh, fuck this shit, I don't want this inside of me, right? But that's not the whole story because this is also pretty similar and it's kind of a follow-up to what we talked about with diversification last time of bacteria. Like we live in symbiosis with bacteria and parasites. So Frank, as you said, you're probably eating parasites every single day, right? But the question should not be like to remove them from an intake perspective. It should be how can we make sure that we're not a—
Parasite.
host to them, because that is what actually matters, right? Are they passing through our system or are they sticking? That should be the question, um, we should be asking. Everyone right now is always like, how should I kill parasites, right? When the question should be, why is my body somewhere where they want to live and stay in the first place? And I think, uh, John, I'm, I'm, I can't recall, you, you've tried some, you've tried parasite cleanses before, no?
As well.
Me?
Yeah. Or—
No, no, no, I haven't. But I think I, uh, I asked you a few weeks ago because it's like all over the internet. It's like a big, big theme right now everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that was maybe how it is. But there are a bunch of, uh, you guys, maybe not here right now, but a bunch of you guys previously have obviously tried a bunch of parasites And parasite cleanses, and as I said, this is directly from these specific ones are directly from Charles. So now we know now we know how those how those looks. But the first thing we have to understand here are that the parasites obviously, as with everything else, is not the root cause. Parasites are opportunistic organisms. They do not randomly choose hosts. They do not target healthy, well-defended systems. They establish where the environment allows them to. I think this is not just for You, you, you, you say that ticks goes under parasites as well, right? It's the kind of— and I, I think it's the same thing here, Frank. We chatted a bit about this when, when you were in Sweden. Like, ever since getting kind of healthy, in, in my own experience, like, I haven't had any ticks, right? Which is crazy because I'm outside even more than I've ever been, right? I'm touching more grass than I've ever been. But I don't get any ticks. And then a couple years ago, you know, you got a few ticks here and there when you basically never went outside, which is also just pretty interesting, right? But it also states that they're attracted to a— or if they don't view you as a host, they will not find their way into you or whatever. And parasites in regards to living inside of us is exactly the same. So we can also think about nature here. Mold does not grow on a dry, clean surface. It's a good example. It grows where there is moisture, warmth, and darkness. So it grows where there's conditions that support it. And our gut in this case works exactly the same. So a parasite arriving in a healthy, well-defended gut encounters stomach acid that will destroy it, a diverse microbiome that outcompetes it. And a functioning immune system that eliminates it, and a motility that moves it through before it can establish. So it passes through, and you never knew it was there. And this is what's happening with us when we have a well-functioning system, right? So all of us are probably every single day consuming parasites, right? Every single day. Same thing with all the bacteria we're consuming. We're consuming a shit ton of parasites and bacteria. So the question is not— or we shouldn't demonize it. We should more so once again question why are they not passing through and why are they sticking instead of how we should be killing them. So because also our body already has an entire defense system for this, right? When functioning properly, your body has an extraordinary natural defense. Stomach acid, which destroys the vast majority of parasitic organisms before they even reach the intestine. Bile as well, directly antiparasitic in the small intestine. So if they pass through, we have another support system. So, and then after that, we have the microbiome, which outcompetes parasitic organisms for space, nutrients, and attachment sites. So this is called colonization resistance. We have the gut lining as well. So when that's intact, prevents organisms from accessing deeper tissue and passing through. And then we have the immune system as well. The most sophisticated immune tissue in the body lives in the gut. when resourced properly, it eliminates threats continuously.
Gotcha.
So this is also why we can— it's the same with bacteria here as well. Like if we have a well-functioning gut and we're like healthy, that's also when we're usually not getting sick and not getting— picking up things, colds and things like this. It's exactly the same reason because our immune system starts in the gut, right? And the microbiome outcompetes those bacteria and kind of, you know, Makes, makes them not affecting our body. Exact same thing. Then we have motility. A gut that moves well obviously clears well as well. And when all of these are working, the body handles parasitic exposure quietly and automatically. The problem is not exposure. The problem is what happens to those defenses when the system is chronically overloaded. So you see how there— it's not one single process that helps us clear this out. It's like If not, if one doesn't work, we have another layer, and then there's another layer, and then there's another layer, and then there's even another layer of defense that we have internally, which also just clarifies how non-toxic and/or bad these things are, because we can literally process them so, so, so, so well. Question then should obviously become why people become susceptible in the first place. Why are we— how do we become a host? Well, surprise, surprise, chronic stress, which will suppress acid, bile, enzyme production, motility, and immunity simultaneously. That's obviously the number one thing that is absolutely shit if we think about this equation. And then we have poor sleep as well.
Yeah.
Antibiotics is also something that obviously will collapse the microbiome diversity and the whole colonization resistance. Low stomach acid, which removes— that's the first layer of defense, so that removes the primary gatekeeper if we have low stomach acid. Poor bile flow as well. Nutrient deficiencies, slow motility, chronic inflammation. Same just as with literally every single other issue we can have, right? Everything starts with stress. And then that affects acid, enzymes, bile. And then we throw on, sparkle on some more bad sleep on top of that, which even messes up the stress and the cortisol even more. And then the spiral just continues, right? Accumulated over time, those produce a gut that is generally difficult to defend. And that is the environment, parasites, and also other things, dysbiosis, Candida, SIBO, all of those things takes advantage of that environment.
Right?
So most parasite cleanses uses aggressive antimicrobial herbs at high doses, dosages over a sustained period of time. And this is the biggest mistake you can ever do. And this is why I absolutely hate what everyone is preaching right now, because if you go do a parasite cleanse protocol or something like this, this is exactly what you get. And I have so many examples of you guys that have been to functional medicine doctors and been put on some crazy antimicrobials to kill off some specific bacterial overgrowth or whatever, which like is absolutely insane to me that it works like that, or that people diagnose and treat like that. Because the problem with that is that these compounds do not selectively kill parasites or bacteria for that sake. They kill broadly. It's very hard, or it's impossible to, to get a sniper into your gut. You know, it's either an atomic bomb or it's nothing. It's impossible to get a sniper in there and to isolate one thing, right? It's an all-or-nothing game, which means that when they kill broadly, then all the beneficial bacteria take damage alongside whatever is being targeted, right? That is the biggest problem. So you start with a compromised gut, you add an aggressive antimicrobial protocol which further reduces microbiome diversity and adds more stress to an already stressed system. So even if the cleanse reduces a parasitic load, the environment that welcomed them is now even more depleted than before. And this is like, if we just think about Charles, obviously with the pictures before, Charles has done the parasite cleanses multiple times and it's always, it's always been coming back, which is the crazy thing here, right? So you do it and then you're almost, you end up being stuck in this, in this cycle where it's like, yeah, what is the solution? Are you going to continue to do parasite cleanses every single week for the rest of your life? Or like, yeah, uh, Jan, tell me.
Did Charles feel any like relief or something positive from the cleanses? Or you don't know?
Short term, I, I, I don't know exactly. I do want to remember he said like short terms, maybe just like— but to be honest, I think that's purely mental, like seeing something coming out and just like, oh, now this is out of me.
Placebo, like, yeah, oh shit, it's out of me.
Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh, it's out of me now, now I'm, I'm good, you know. I have a very, very hard time seeing why someone should, uh, like And if so, then it's a day or 2 or 3 at max, right?
Okay.
And then you've consumed the parasite again, and then it starts to build up, you know. Yeah. So once again, even if the cleanse reduced the parasite load, environment that welcomed them is now even more depleted than before, right? So the next opportunistic organism simply moves in because nature fills empty spaces always. And this is why people do cleanses after cleanses and keep experiencing the same symptoms. And it gets usually even worse with time, not because the cleanse did not work, but because nothing about the underlying environment got changed, right?
So it—
and this is the biggest mistake repeated across every area of gut health as well.
If I—
we look at what people usually do for Candida, you know, antifungals without addressing the sugar, stress, or dysbiosis that fed it in the first place. SIBO, same thing there, antibiotics without addressing the motility and acid issues that allowed overgrowth in the first place. Parasites cleanses without addressing the environment that made them a hospital host. So we remove the organism without fixing the environment, and the environment regenerates the problem. It's the same thing as we talked about earlier today as well, when you're just like, oh, I just want to hear from you that there's no magic pill that is going to fix this, right? This is exactly kind of what we talked about there.
Like, no.
Like this would be the magic pill, you know, but it's not.
So yeah.
Just going to repeat the cycle, you mean, right?
Yeah, and arguably even make it worse, you know. So the question then becomes, how do we become a poor host, which is exactly what we want? Well, we have to restore stomach acid, which we can do by adding some simple things if needed supporting digestion. Apple cider vinegar before meals, bitter foods as well. So arugula and apple cider vinegar are usually the, my, like the best tools that I always have on hand, right? Absolutely fantastic. Making sure we're getting enough zinc, not from supplements but from the food that we're eating. So organs and getting in some Getting in enough of seafood, right, and oysters ideally. That is important. Meal spacing as well, and having a proper, proper structure with that, having a good rhythm of when you're eating. Fasting for too long is also something that will downregulate your stomach acid. That's why meal, like, meal spacing and having consistent meals on a rhythm is super, super important for that as well. Stomach acid should always be number one because that is the primary gatekeeper once again. So simple implementations. Yes, Saif.
Hey, Lucas, I have a question about meal spacing. Do you mean it's recommended to have like intermittent fasting or like, for example, eat regularly after a few hours? Like, for example, medium meal and then after 2 hours a small snack and then And whatnot.
Yeah, what do you do exactly?
It depends on the situation. Like intermittent fasting for someone that doesn't have gut issues is not really an issue, but when we have gut issues, we want to keep the, we want to keep the motility going. And like, it's usually that like standard rule is smaller meals and more frequent is usually better, especially when you already have slow motility and you don't have a gut that is Like working properly. And so giving smaller loads of work more frequent is always better than giving like a big huge list of things to complete in one go. Makes sense?
Yeah, yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all because that's how it kind of helps me.
But yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's what I mean. Rebuild microbiome diversity as well. Or sorry, to finish this up, like for almost all of you in here, maybe Oliver and Safe, we started too early or newly joined. Like having a shot of or a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar or some arugula or something before the meals is something that is absolutely not gonna do any damage. I think that's all only gonna be beneficial. Now when I'm thinking about you as well, we might actually be, it might be interesting to Instead of having the, like, the bitters on your plate.
Before, yeah.
Yes.
I was just thinking about the same, man, so.
Yeah.
Nice.
That's something that I want you to try. Yeah, we want to rebuild microbiome diversity as well, systematic food diversification. Obviously we went over in depth on this last time. Fermented foods introduced gradually for those that can handle it and where we don't have a histamine or get sort of histamine reactions from it. So I'd say same thing here, that's something that in small dosages all of you guys should be having. Obviously we talked about this, starting to introduce some fermented for you as well. Alex, I think it's about time for you to start doing that as well. So that's absolutely something we should be doing. The most powerful colonization resistance mechanism available is to diversify and upregulate the microbiome. Then we wanna support bile flow as well. Same thing here, bitter foods. So apple cider vinegar and arugula is both gonna support acid but also bile. Beetroot, taurine, so making sure we're getting collagen, like collagen-rich cuts. Consistent fat at every meal in order to upregulate it. So when we have a, when we have a bile flow issue, we don't want to follow the Randle cycle to a T because supplying just a carb, carb and protein meals can be problematic because we want to kind of trigger the bile to be active and to be released. So having, making sure we're getting fats in every meal is important when we kind of have isolated that that might be an issue for us. Repair gut lining, collagen-rich foods. Zinc, adequate minerals is also super, super important for that. We have to obviously regulate the nervous system. This is as with everything else. That's always the upstream intervention. Chronic sympathetic dominance suppresses every single defense simultaneously. So that is number one. Optimize sleep, improve motility, making sure we're walking after meals, meal spacing once again, mineral status. A gut that moves well clears well. As with everything also, stress nervous system is number one, and regulating that will make sure that we're kind of bulletproofing ourselves from or for or towards parasites, right? And then understanding that our microbiome is our army. A healthy diverse microbiome provides something that no cleanse can ever replicate, and that is colonization resistance. That means the beneficial bacteria compete directly with parasitic and pathogenic organisms for nutrients. So the problem with the parasites, right, is, is that if when they stay in the gut and then they start to— you've heard someone say this probably, oh, you have something eating your nutrients inside you, right? That's what people say. Oh, you're not supplying your body with nutrients because there's parasites in there that, that takes it away from you or whatever, right? And that is absolutely, like, that is true and correct. That's why we wanna make sure that we have the bacteria in place to, like, because the bacteria will always win over the parasites if they are working how they're supposed to. And they produce compounds that are directly hostile to many pathogens as well, support the gut barrier that prevents deeper tissue access, and they continue to educate and calibrate the immune system, right? starts in the gut. Every disease starts in the gut. We already know this. So every time we aggressively wipe out the microbiome with either antibiotics, broad antimicrobial protocols, extended restriction, we completely weaken this army. So we remove the very defense system that was protecting us in the first place, and then we wonder why something else Moves in. The microbiome is not collateral damage in the war against parasites. It is the primary defense. So we need to protect it, build it, and diversify it over time. And that is how we create an environment that— where we're not viewed as hosts towards this Parasites, and they pass through us just how they are, or just like they're supposed to. That's it. That's parasites. Frank, with that in mind as well, I'd argue you should probably— I mean, it depends on how big dosage you take for your, uh, oregano, um, Oil, but too much of that will backfire.
Yeah, I don't, I don't take it every day, and sometimes I go off it for 2 weeks.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's good.
Just make sure, um, you're doing small, uh, small amounts, right?
Yeah, it's just, um, if I do the dosage, if I do it on a day It's only 2 drops. Yeah, I take one in the morning and then one in the evening after my meal.
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't sound like too much. Alex, question?
Yeah, I just wanted to ask, like, um, if you would ever, like, if you're facing a client that has a really weak gut, really weakened microbiome, and it's also affected by some, you know, parasite, would you then say maybe, maybe get rid of it first and get then the microbiome built up, or is basically just building up the microbiome also like slowly getting rid of the parasite? Or do you say it's an individual thing, you have to consider case by case what you're doing?
Yeah, I mean, a targeted treatment for a like super confirmed crazy infection is, is different from, uh, maybe doing as most people are doing with just doing repeated cleanse, broad cleanses, uh, based on, yeah, whatever, right?
Yeah.
So it depends, but I think it's very situation It's very much situation dependent and kind of, yeah, and how long that has been the case and whatnot. But the thing you have to understand there, it's like it's almost a bigger gamble to wipe it out, you know.
Yeah.
That's how I see it, because that means that you have to be even more dialed in careful after because you've wiped, you know, everything out.
Uh, I was just thinking like if, if you have a parasite and it gets— I don't know, maybe I'm completely right— but it gets so big and it's in your gut and it kind of causes a lot of damage, you know, is there a certain point where you say, all right, just get rid of it first and then we build it up the rest? Or I could also phrase it, do you say like getting rid of parasites directly is I would almost want to say that yes, but it depends.
It's, it's, I think this is the same thing as with bacteria as we talked about with, uh, like with Benjamin, uh, last time. Like there will be some sort of bacteria that, you know, you don't want in there, you know.
Yeah.
It probably will be some parasites How I'm thinking about this is, let's say you've been going to— probably if you've been traveling, you've been going to, I don't know, Southeast Asia, and you've got some shit in your system over there, you know, I'd probably want to get rid of that.
I see. Okay.
But if I—
and if that's like confirmed, You know, but if it's just I I got some parasites and that are because I ate some raw meat, you know, then no.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, but I know you've heard those. You've heard those stories with the. This big, uh, fucking, uh, worms coming out of people.
Uh, that's terrible.
Yeah, yeah, almost like an alien, you know, that infected.
Yeah, that's terrible.
Oh my God. But I've never— the, the funny thing with that is that I've never heard a super healthy person say that either, which is the funny part, right? Or the— yeah, that's never been the case with someone that you— that generally is, you know, healthy.
Okay.
Yeah, but it's interesting.
Yeah, those pictures were gross.
Yeah, but I think that, that kind of just adds to the Just painting it as something, or painting this devil, you know, because like there's some parasites that are beneficial for us as well that can feed on heavy metals and stuff that can kind of help us, help us cleanse toxins out of our system. So if we have, if we have a sluggish motility that can't cleanse the toxins themselves, like then these parasites can come in and can kind of kind of help us, help us remove it as well. And if you would look at a picture of that, you would also, you would say the same thing, right? This is fucking gross.
This is—
but then this is absolutely beneficial, you know. Same thing with bacteria. There's good, there's bad. Mostly good, but some bad.
So yeah, so yeah, make sure you wear a mask and use your, uh, sanitizer every day.
Yes sir, and never eat raw meat and never raw eggs. Cook them 20 minutes boiled.
Never get dirty.
Yeah, uh, there probably will be a vaccine against parasites very soon.
Or some, uh, oh, I don't know, Big Pharma pill, kill parasite pill.
Yeah, dropping the napalm bomb on the rainforest, you know.
Yeah, just eat raw garlic.
Yeah, raw garlic is good, it's good, it's good.
Do we have any other questions on, uh, on this topic?
Um, just one, like, out of curiosity, because I, I have never seen— I never came across that topic. Is this something that is really, you know, is this big on the internet, on the nutrition?
Parasites?
Yeah, parasites. Is it like—
Yeah, massive.
Okay, okay.
Massive right now. It's like everyone, oh, I'm this and that, I have all these issues, uh, I did a parasite cleanse and now all my issues are, uh, Are fixed. Like, it's all over the internet.
If you do like one search, then your whole feed of Instagram is like full of gurus for the cleanse.
Yeah, and you're gonna get, you're gonna get, you're gonna get bombarded with ads from, uh, the detox dudes. Josh Muazzin. Jan, you've probably been bombarded by him already.
Yeah, yeah, I've seen him like so many times, it's insane.
Yeah, and he always, he always shows how his face was all puffy before, and then he shows these worms that got out of him, and now all his issues are gone and he whatever, right?
And it's easy, right? It's like a visual as well. Like, oh, you got the parasites, it's being— yeah, that's your body, now you're healed. So that's like easy to sell, correct? And, uh, it's just marketing.
Yeah, yeah.
I, I think Charles actually bought his, uh, his detox protocol, uh, so yeah. Things came out, but they also came back.
Oh shit. And like, the things that came out, is this always left like a different parasite or










