A band shifted from pop-rock to hard rock by following what mainstream radio wanted. They started in the Dashboard Confessional era, recorded an unreleased EP with producer ZK that changed their direction, and chased the sound radio was moving toward with bands like Daughtry.
If that's where radio rock was going, that's what we were doing, you know?
And then when was the pivotal moment for you guys to be like, okay, we're going to be like active hard rock? Like when? And I know it was like shortly after that, but like what, what was like that conversation like? What was like who made that call? Where did you— how did that— like what inspired that within internally for you guys?
Well, I think it was, it was just like the, the, the movement of the, the, the times. Like, you know, when we were doing that pop rock sound, it was when You know, like Dashboard Confessional was all over the radio. Uh, you know, uh, uh, who else?
Warped Tour was huge. Panic! at the Disco.
Like everything was that we were working with. Like probably the best culmination of that we did was when we went in with ZK and we had that EP, which never even like went weirdly enough, never even went out as a thing. We never even released it.
Sessions.
Yeah. Uh, and then I think it was, you know, really after that that we started kind of bridging into that direction because that's where radio was heading, you know. Uh, that was kind of crossing back into that, like, you know, that's when, that's when Daughtry started coming over with the crossovers and Nickelback was, was at large and, and It was like, you know, we had no misguided notions of what we wanted to be. We wanted to be a radio rock band. And so if that's where radio rock was going, that's what we were doing, you know.
