Revolutionize Your Child's Education with Manisha Snoyer | Teach Your Kids Podcast

Hi, I'm Manisha, and this is Teach youh Kids. I've been a teacher for 20 years and I'm also a tech entrepreneur. My focus is on helping families customize their children's education. If you've ever taken a look at your child's school and there was like a little voice inside yourself that said, I can do this better myself, this podcast is here to show you that actually you can do it better yourself. As a teacher, I always felt like parents were so disempowered from taking an active role in their child's education. So if you get anything else out of this, I want you to know that that intuition that you're the best person to guide your child's education and that there are tools and resources to support you, is a true voice that you can follow. This podcast is also for parents who maybe don't feel like they can do it better themselves, but they're really frustrated with the quality of their family life, that they're burnt out, they're tired, that they're fighting with their kids. This podcast is here to show you that there's a better way, this new approach to childhood education that's really spreading throughout the world. It's an approach to education that's flexible, that has incredible learning outcomes for children and leads to a better quality of family life. When I was 20, I moved to New York City to pursue a career in acting. And I needed a way to earn a living, so I started two tutoring. My first gig was tutoring the ssat, which is an entrance exam for eighth graders. And I also worked at an after school program at a Title 1 school in Harlem. And my experience was pretty crazy. I started tutoring the ssat and then I just started adding on subjects. I tutored math, biology, science. And I was encountering just this incredible stress among students at my school. I had students who were growing up during their tutoring sessions and parents who were crying because they were so scared about how their children were going to do on the sat. Eventually, I left that program and I started doing more tutoring and I became a certified substitute teacher for the New York City School Department, where I taught in the French bilingual schools and also just all over the place as a music teacher, science teacher, all grades, all levels. And what I saw everywhere was just a completely broken system. So I this kind of voice started coming into my head saying, you know, why is it this way? You know, all you really need for a great education is a teacher and a space and a group of students and this voice started getting louder and louder. I felt like I was really naive, that there must be some reason that education was being done this way, that, you know, it can't be as simple as a teacher in a space and a group of kids. But the more I started saying that, the more I started hearing affirmation for that. And eventually I discovered there were actually a movement of parents in New York who were starting their own homeschool co ops. What was interesting is that, first of all, the kids were learning, they were having a great time, but even more than that, the parents were flourishing. They were making such wonderful connections with the other parents in the group. It was fun for them. Obviously, they were saving, saving money. And as I started digging more and more into this movement of homeschool co ops, you know, where kids were going, you know, three days a week, and also homeschooling, that was made me discover what was happening in homeschooling. And that was kind of where my real shift in consciousness about education happened. And I realized that this homogenous, inflexible education system where every child learned the same thing at the same time in the same way, was absolutely the opposite of what education should be. I started digging more and more into this secular homeschooling movement and thinking about how did this happen and what were the implications? And what I realized was our education system had gotten to such a bad place that people who were desperate were starting to invent new forms. And so actually, in the last 30 years, there's been a shift in the homeschooling movement. Where previously people were homeschooling primarily for religious reasons, and then a lot of people started homeschooling because A, they thought they could do it better themselves, or B, they were desperate. Now there's really large homeschooling communities, but there still were communities. And what these people started doing is sharing resources and ideas. So I run a tech company. You know, if you're building a tech company and you have a good advisor, you think about what's the experience of people using this product? What are the archetypes? And you watch these people using your product, you think about, what do they need? How do I make things better for them? And the more you focus and the more you are flexible and willing to evolve what you're offering according to this person's needs, the better, the more successful you'll be. So I start talking to homeschoolers. I talk to hundreds and hundreds of families. First, I started in New York, and then I moved to San Francisco and I joined homeschooling groups there. And what I discovered is that there were patterns in what these people were doing all over the world in the way that they educated their children. There were these commonalities. So they had actually built a new education system organically, without writing down any of the rules. But as it happened, they followed similar schedules, there were similar components, and I started paying really close attention. And what I found was this system of learning, which I call modular learning. And I'm going to talk to you about what I observed and how this has come to be. Modular learning, as you might imagine, is a system composed of modules. What is a module? A module might be a math curriculum, A module might be attending a homeschool co op. There are these certain modules. And so the first thing that I discovered was that most people were only doing an hour or two of focused study a day. And this is what I call mastery hours. Mastery learning, if you haven't heard of it, it's a term that was coined by an educational professor of psychology at mit, Benjamin Bloom. There's mastery learning and there's a one on one mastery learning. And that distinction is really important. So mastery learning in and of itself is studying something in a way that makes sense. The sequencing makes sense. So you learn one concept before you build on to the next. An example might be if you want to learn how to know algebra, first you need to know 5 minus 2 equals 3. And it's more complex than that. But basically before you move on to one concept, you master the one before. And that's different than experiential learning where you're exposed to a lot of different things. So mastery learning makes a lot of sense when it comes to language arts and math. And one of the things you have to think about in homeschooling is that there's some things that are really easy to learn on your own. For example, if you go to France, you could probably learn how to speak French. Just being around people, especially if you're a child. By the way, the way that children absorb information is insane. That said, there are topics that are harder to learn through experience. And I think a key example would be math and reading. So there's been a lot of research about the science of reading. There are certainly kids who are early readers and essentially teach themselves to read. They're kind of figuring out the code, but they are decoding. And then most children need to be taught how to read through phonics. So some of the younger kids might have, you know, starting around five or six 30 minutes of math, 30 minutes of reading. Some did online learning, some did nature based learning, but it was, you know, studying those two core subjects and then the other mod. And so what's really important about this is that these kids who are only studying two hours a day were performing two or three grade levels above their peers in public school. Because what's happening, what Benjamin Bloom described is so mastery learning, you're building on one concept before you go on to the next. So key thing, you have to choose a good curriculum. You can't just choose any curriculum. So you're choosing a well designed curriculum that builds. You master this, you move on to that. It's like building a tower. And very important children are learning at their own pace. So this is where the one on one part comes in. We think about helping with homework as kind of a crutch. Oh, the kid is struggling, so we're helping with homework. But if you just Google parent involvement in education, we're going to talk a lot about parent involvement in education. You'll see that kids whose parents help them with homework or people in the community, they have a mentor who helps them with homework do just substantially better parent involvement Education is any pta. Any educational researcher will tell you it is the biggest factor in how a child performs in school. Obviously when you're homeschooling, you're very involved. Parent involvement in education is the entire involvement. So anyway, so cool. These parents are only spending two hours a day. A lot of it is independent study. The parent will chime in when the child needs help. They're choosing a curriculum that's personalized to their child's needs. And they're spending one hour a day, two hours a day when the child is fresh. This mastery hours module is really key. It's this really incredible thing that's evolved over years and years and years and years of people homeschooling and optimizing. And all these people in these different countries and different places are doing the same thing. No one said you have to spend two hours a day in focus study. They're just doing it. So first module, one to two hours of mastery hours when you're fresh. Some kids do it at seven in the morning, some do it at noon, some do it at 9pm Some families are night owls. But it's a daily thing, usually four days a week. Doesn't have to be five all year round. What do they do in the afternoons? In the afternoons they go to classes. Some classes might be a skillshare. So one parent teaches a class and everyone else participates. It might be something like just a play date and a lot of families. Actually, if you're thinking, if you are already homeschooling, you're thinking of ways to meet people. One really popular homeschool activity is park day, where everyone just goes and plays at the park. Or another really good one is when you have a game night. So family sometimes, especially if you're more of an introverted parent and your child is more extroverted, just every Friday you host a game night. Anyone who can come can come. So first module, mastery hours. Second module, classes, Third module, co op. So another thing that just organically emerged, nobody talked about it, was homeschool co ops. Now people are calling them micro schools, learning pods, all kinds of fun names. Two basic models. You rent a space, you get a teacher, everyone comes together and does classes. Another model would just be, it's kind of a center where classes are offered and you can go and hang out or take classes that are interesting for you. We probably will have a couple leaders of homeschool co ops come on the show, which should be a lot of fun. So there's that and then another thing that people. So there's. So you have one one day a week or a half day a week or two days a week of your homeschool co op and it's time for group learning and parents get a break, which is fun. You know, it's so funny because a lot of people think I'm either going to go to school and get a break from my kid or I'm going to homeschool and I'm never going to get break from my kid. And what's cool is that in homeschooling you can really decide when you want to spend time with your child and when you need some time for yourself. I remember I was in this conference in a church in Brooklyn and someone had invited Peter Gray to speak. I had never heard of him before. And he started talking about this idea of self directed learning. And it was kind of like converting to a religion. I can't quite describe the experience, but it completely blew my mind. I mean, the idea was that children basically are programmed to learn biologically and that what we're doing to try to teach them in school is just getting in the way of their natural process of learning. And that we should give time for children to be bored. We shouldn't push children to learn to read early. We should let them read in their given time even. I mean. And he brought out some really radical ideas that some Boys were not developmentally ready to read until they were 10. I mean, something that would just. Can you imagine if you, you know, Your child is 10 and they don't know how to read? I mean, how scary that would be. But him, he just really taking a very bold state and saying that's that's okay and that it's better. And I remember really shocked because so he was involved in a lot of places like Summerhill and other schools like that that embrace this idea of real unschooling. Just let your child learn what they want to learn and don't interfere. Which I feel is a little bit too purist. And I'm a fan of a mix of structure and self directed learning and really having the environment be set up to support self directed learning through tools and resources. But it really made me question a lot of the things I believed before. Even someone in the audience said, well, what if a kid just wants to play video games all day? And what Peter Gray said is, have you ever let them do that? And what he noticed is that what would happen is a lot of the children would end up just getting bored of their video game and going out to play. Now I'm sure there are parents here who said if I let my kid play video games all day, they would just do that all day long, non stop. And I have seen that too. And some really unhealthy screen addiction. And in fact, oh so exciting, Nir Eyal, who is a homeschool dad and author of Hooked, is going to come on the show and talk about screen time and addiction and how we can help cultivate a healthy balance with our children. And also he's a big proponent of raising autodidacts, which is a great word. Autodidacts are self directed learners. So this self directed learning thing, I just, for a while I became one of these evangelists who said, just don't get in the way, let children learn whatever they want. And then I started kind of feeling like more of a hybrid approach was better. But I don't know, every child is different. Some are super self directed, some are not. I do believe in tapping into that intrinsic motivation. And I think that while I might not be someone who's just totally hands off, I do believe in a non coercive approach. But I think that for me self directed learning is more about seeing what might be blocking self directed learning psychologically. Much in the same way, if we aren't growing in the way we want to grow, there's usually something blocking us from growing as A teacher. I try to identify what those blocks might be. A lot of the homeschooling kids have had a job. A lot of kids volunteer at the aquarium or the soup kitchen. The other thing we see a lot, and this is actually part of Montessori education, is practical life. Doing chores around the house, contributing to the family. And so there's these modules that have emerged, these modular learners. They're thriving. The kids are learning so much, they're so happy, they have so many friends. And also the parents are happy. So let's think about the quality of family life. When I look around at a lot of the parents, I know what I see are people who are really tired and really burnt out. I see relationships that are in trouble and fighting. I see people who are angry at their kids. What I see in the homeschooling, in the modular learning community is that families, and there are definitely, definitely homeschoolers who are burnt out. But when you're really doing modular learning well, you do not get burnt out. Why? Because you are customizing every aspect of your life. Remote work is on the rise. Parents do not need 8 to 3pm care. That is not a parent's work schedule. An entrepreneurial parent might need care from 7 to 10pm they might need care Tuesday and Wednesday. They might need care from 10 to 3. They might just need someone helping their kids while they're working. And when you can do modular learning, you can really optimize for these types of things. I mean, one great thing about modular learning is that it's affordable. Homeschoolers make the same income level as any other family in public school. They're not rich. Some of them are rich, some of them are not. A lot of single moms homeschool a lot of people with full time jobs. Yes. And it's about finding the child care plan that works for your family. And I think a lot of people don't realize they're actually using school for child care. And it's not very good child care. You're basically putting your kid in a room, they have to sit all day on their butts. And then you have to pay for after school care. And then you get to hang out when you're exhausted and you probably just need a break after working for a hard day. So, you know, one of the things that people do is, for example, they will send their child to a co op three days a week or they'll have a tutor come to their house or, you know, they'll swap with another family so that they kind of the kids play and they work at their house and the kids play and work at the other house. That is a really important factor, you know, when you're trying to optimize your child's education, also think about optimizing your own well being. And I would say most of the myths about homeschooling are pretty inaccurate. It's very social. Parents are totally equipped to rate to teach their own kids. I mean, we talked a little bit about mastery learning, but there's a million other reasons. There's so much. One of the things is that there's so much technology and learning materials that have arisen in the last couple years. So a lot of that is untrue. But I do see a mistake a lot of people make is that one parent is kind of responsible for all the homeschooling and they're trying to make it just like school. And they're not thinking about themselves, they're just thinking about the kids. Instead of saying, hey, there's all these modules we could choose from. Homeschool, co op, babysitting, swap, maybe we could hire just a babysitter and a bunch of our. She could watch a bunch of kids a couple days a week and instead of, you know, and then they'll say like, oh my goodness, it's been three months. Do you think I can have a day to myself? Is that something I can actually ask for when I'm the person who's supposed to be teaching the kids? And that does not work. So if you're doing modular learning, ideally you're not just optimizing for. Okay, so this is something I like to say a lot. In school we do socialization, childcare and academics all in one spot together. We mush them together and we do pretty poor quality childcare. One teacher to 30 kids not getting really great care, lots of bullying, violence, all that stuff. In terms of socialization, I don't really see how having 30 kids all the same age, who didn't necessarily choose to be friends, sitting with only 30 minutes of recess is a great way to learn how to socialize. I think kids need to be around mixed ages. They need adults around to help guide them and learn how to socialize. Not doing very well on that front. School. Then the third thing we have childcare. Nothing in line with the modern day family schedule. And then group teaching. Everyone being taught in the same way at the same time, not great. But with homeschooling you can just take those elements apart from. And as these modular learning have done, we optimize Childcare, I think I'll be an entrepreneur investor or I'll teach from home. And on Thursdays parents will swap and I'll get three hours to myself. Or on Wednesdays I'll send them to this co op while I do my job. And maybe on Fridays I want 10 hours of care. There's all this really creative childcare going on and it can be a little bit daunting to start that from scratch. But a lot of these communities already have systems that have evolved. And then, you know, if you compare what you're spending on after school to this ideal child care model, maybe better. I mean, honestly, if you have three kids and you're sending them all to private school, you're definitely better off hiring a teacher. And then you get great child care. So childcare, you can do much better. You can really think about your own needs. How much time do you want to have with your child or away from your child? How many resources do you have? And again, you do not have to be rich. I saw this lovely story on Reddit. Homeschooling group. A lot of single moms homeschool and this mom, she just did not have any money. It was really below minimum poverty level. And she found this farm in Bolivia and they were looking for volunteers and she brought her daughters there and they started working the farm and there was this whole community to help raise her kids. It was, they got to live there for free and it was incredible. Learned Spanish. I mean, amazing, right? So there's a lot, a lot of people are digital nomads. If you're a world schooler, you can move to Croatia or Greece. Cost of living is much lower than a lot of places in the U.S. so there's all this really great things you can do to optimize your own well being and feel like it's really important. Parents keep returning to that. How can I be happier? I want to spend time with my kids. How do I get that time as a family? And if I need more time alone, which is so legit, how do I find that time to myself? Yes. And also spend time. If you do have a partner. There's a lot of single moms and single dads, I think. I honestly haven't met a single dad who homeschools, so I shouldn't say that, but I'm sure that he's out there. You should say, hi, we'll have you on the show. But, but you can definitely make it work and make much better child care situation for yourself. And then with the one on one Mastery learning. It's great with all the curriculum, it can really work out. That brings us to the last module, which is family time. Sadly, we don't really get a lot of time together as a family. We have these children and we love them and we send them away to school. What if we didn't do that? What if we spent time with them? Why are we sending them away to school? You know, a lot of parents will say, well, they must be doing something better. Well, what is that thing? Can you tell me that thing? And then they'll say, okay, well, I'm not a math person, so I can't teach them math. I don't know if your kid's teacher is a math person, but that's another topic. But one of the things that is cool is that because homeschooling is growing, all these tools and resources have emerged to support homeschooling and technology in particular. I'm not saying use adaptive learning apps to educate your child, but for example, your child is struggling with an algebra problem. The two of you can go on YouTube and you can figure that out together. And it's fantastic because you're modeling learning to your child. And what is a better thing to learn than how to learn? And if you show your child, wow, I'm confused by this. These are the tools I'm going to draw on. Maybe it's a book from the library. Maybe it's a YouTube video. Maybe it's just thinking, brainstorming together. These are the tools I'm going to use when I encounter a difficulty to move past it and learn what I want to know. You can teach your kids. Just that is one thing. If anything, I want you to take away. Maybe you're someone who's already just gung ho on homeschooling. You looked at school, you said, heck, I can do this better myself. I'm pulling my kids out of school, and you're good to go. You know, you can teach your kids. Maybe you are somebody who is just really in that mindset of people at school must know what they're doing. I mean, I go to a nice private school. They must know what they're doing. And I will tell you, I taught at these nice private schools, and they are all preparing kids to get into elite universities. They're not preparing kids to be learners. They are stressful, they are coercive. And I mean, when I was tutoring kids on the Upper east side, a lot of the kids were getting four hours of tutoring a night after going to these schools. All day long. And they were just. Parents were crying in the kitchen. To me, I'm saying, just relax. You know, just relax. It doesn't matter that much. And they were not getting good. They were getting an education when I was tutoring them, but they were not getting an education at school. And I'm sorry, but that is just what I witnessed. But then there's the socialization piece. Getting your kids in a diverse group of kids, different races, different ages, different thoughts. I mean, if you can try to. If you're a Democrat, try to have your kids make friends with some Republicans. I know, it's so scary. One of the things I'm kind of critical of, actually, is that a lot of people who do modular learning are very interested in secular education, not at all religious. And I also am passionate about secular education, even though I'm spiritual and I even go to church. But I think education should be secular. But a lot of people just like, I will not spend any time with a Christian homeschooler. I do not want to be part of those groups. And I think that's a mistake. I think that people need to be exposed to a diversity of thought and ideas and learn to be critical thinkers, but learn to talk to each other. Socialization is one of the biggest myths about homeschooling. Homeschoolers are very social. I've never seen such a social group. We're going to have a lot of homeschool families come on the show, and a lot of them are going to say, my kid is overbooked when it comes to socializing. And just. I don't know. I don't even know about kind of comparing school to homeschooling for socialization because it's so different. It's school. You meet people through your school. You don't really spend a lot of time having resource recess. You're exhausted at the end of the day, homeschooling. There's all these cool, eclectic groups. You can choose your friends. Maybe you. I know a girl who just meets all of her friends at the trampoline park. She spends four hours a day bouncing there. So there's a really diverse and inclusive communities. And we talked about this network ecology where people of mixed ages are uniting around this shared value of education. So it's not cliquey. And then at school, people are not uniting around education as very large groups. And so it's cliquey and there's bullying. The other really significant thing about homeschooling, and Gabor Mate wrote about this with Gordon Neufeld in a book talking about how this idea of a peer culture has only emerged since the 50s. So people think that kids learn how to socialize from other kids, when in fact they learn how to socialize from adults. Children should learn how to socialize from people who know how to socialize, not from people who don't know how to socialize. I mean, you wouldn't learn math from someone who doesn't know how to do math. I mean, you wouldn't have your kids, 8 year old. I mean, if your kid's 8 year old friend was better at math than your kid, they could be a great person to teach them math. But it doesn't really make sense that kids learn to socialize just kind of being thrown into this group of kids the same age. The other thing that's really important is a healthy attachment with your parent. And when children have a healthy bond with their parent, they have that relationship to base their other relationships upon. They have a secure attachment. And from that secure attachment they form secure attachment with others. Kids meet different adults, they meet different children throughout the day, throughout the week. They figure out what they like, what they dislike. They learn how to relate better. If you have this fear that homeschoolers are not social, I highly encourage you to start talking to some homeschoolers. We'll definitely have some on the show. And you'll be extraordinarily amazed at how poised, articulate, kind these homeschoolers are. As we mentioned, they often do work experience, volunteer. Really extraordinary. So what do you think? Can you teach your kids? Are you somebody who's already excited to do that and just need some tips on how to start? Start slowly. One or two hours of mastery learning. Are you someone who is going to school? You just feel like they must know better. Every now and then I think, why am I so hard on the education system? They must know what they're doing, something must be right. And then I step back into a classroom and I can't believe what's going on in our classrooms. I can't believe we're subjecting kids to this poor quality of education, poor quality of social life where they're being teased and bullied and harassed and yelled at by their teachers and taught them most boring lessons that have absolutely no relevance to their lives. And not being taught things that are actually important, like financial literacy, data analysis, you know, if they're artists, how to make a living as an artist, really deep conceptual understanding of math. Like Beast Academy is this incredible math program where kids are learning concepts in school, they're memorizing formulas. I mean, unbelievable, you know, and if you really think I'm too busy, I have a full time job, I could never even consider this. Is that true? You know, and you can look around at these, you know, homeschooling communities. How happy and relaxed and do you want to feel happy and relaxed and at peace? Do you have to feel stressed out and tired? Or is there a different way that things could be done? Because what I see is that these homeschoolers are relaxed and happy and at ease and flourishing financially and doing things that they love. The parents are fulfilled, the children are learning, people are communicating well. There are just so many tools that have been designed by homeschoolers for a large part, specifically to support parents educating their kids at home. And there's opportunities for world travel and collaboration. That's good, all of that. To say teach your kids is about opening up the possibility to you that you can teach your kids. Maybe you teach your kids and they're also going to school. Maybe you decide you're going to teach your kids more in the summer. Maybe you decide that this is for you. You're going to give it a good go and figure out how to become a modular learner and become involved in this incredible community of families that has evolved over so many years. We're going to be talking about how to build a healthy bond with your child. We're going to talk about different teaching techniques. We're going to be talking about what to do when you feel burnt out, when you have a conflict with your child. There are strategies, simple strategies that you can do to work with that. So we're going to talk a lot about diversity. We're going to talk about racism and how schools perpetuate racism and how modular learning fosters critical thinkers. We're going to talk about learning how to process all this information. We're going to talk about screen time so many times we're thinking, no screen time, all screen time. What about quality of screen time? What about different kinds of children, how they relate to screen time? All of these different dimensions of learning that we never get an opportunity to think about. We're going to talk about how to hire teachers and connect with teachers, how to get free tutoring. Every single aspect of raising your child. Now also just say, some people say, can I homeschool and also send my child to school? For some school is really valuable social and child care environment for kids. That's awesome. If that's your case and you totally can, you can Be a modular learner. You can believe in self directed education and year round schooling and parent involvement in education and use public school as a module. And most importantly, we're going to talk about, well, not most importantly. The most important thing here is you and your child. And everyone is different. And that's why modular learning is so exciting. Everyone is different is kind of cliche, but in my years of teaching I've also learned it's quite true. Everyone has a unique situation and unique challenges to address. But what's exciting is that with modular learning there's a lot of room to change and evolve your situation. Whereas when you go to a traditional school, you're kind of stuck. There's only so few things that you can change, but here you can change a lot. And freedom is really scary too. But I think that we're going to be able to help you on the show to learn how to make changes in a way that makes sense and are at the right rate for you to move towards happiness and wholeness in your family. If you don't have the resources that you need to do that, how to get access to those resources and support, and if you have all the resources in the world, what can you do to build the dream education for your child and the dream life for your family so that you're not frustrated and stressed and sad, but you're happy your child is learning. And you get to learn too, because that's when your child is learning. It's opportunity for you to also learn new things as they learn. So we're going to go over all of that and hopefully modular learning is going to evolve as we start talking about it too. And we'll become part of the movement and help develop these patterns. We're also going to be talking about the future of education because I believe that in 10 or 20 or 30 years, our education system is going to look very different. Before COVID hit, my experience of the education system was that it was very rigid and inflexible. And I just had this sense. Rigid things break, brittle things break. I kept on saying this and I kept on thinking, this education system is going to break. What do you know? COVID 19 hit and it broke. That's not proper grammar. All of a sudden, overnight, the entire thing collapsed. But modular learning doesn't break because it's evolving, it's strong. Our world is evolving very fast. It's important that we can have education that can evolve and kids who are strong and who are able to adapt well to a changing world and that we're able to adapt well to a changing world. Whether that means learning how to, to build AI or whether it means how to build small farms. If there aren't enough resources available, we don't know what kind of skills we're going to need to be happy and healthy and whole in the future. And if we have really brilliant children, you know, all children are brilliant. And I don't just mean that as a cliche. I think everyone has really unique potential and gifts and the human mind is just extraordinary. How do we optimize our child's learning so that they're not, you know, there's. If they can learn this much, why are they learning this much? And if your kid is in second grade and they're reading at a 10th grade level, why do they have to be reading these second grade books or be given idle homework? Why? Why? What's the point of that? We're going to be talking about this new education system and what I think education is going to look a lot like is a big decentralized school system where rather than everyone going to school at one place at one time using the same curriculum, which really does not make any sense at all if you think about it, people are going to be choosing from all of these different types of offerings, from classes and tutors and electives, and there's going to be funding so everyone can have access to the best resources. And as we learn about children's psychology and their new advances in the field of education, we're going to be able to immediately apply those into our child's education. A crazy example of this, I think a million years ago, 50 years ago, there was this really extensive study about how play is such an important part in children's learning. And only now are we talking about bringing more play based learning into the classroom. Even though we learned that so long ago. Now everything we can learn, we can start implementing right away when we're doing modular learning. So that flow of information that we see in the modular learning community can be part of our learning. I think that's, we're really going to start moving education in that direction. Homeschooling population is growing astronomically. As those communities grow, even more social opportunities emerge. As it becomes less of a weird thing to do, the people who wanted to do it anyway, but were a little bit more susceptible to peer pressure are going to start doing it. And so it's time to get on the bandwagon if you really want your child to have the best education possible. And hopefully we together can be part of building this movement towards a more compassionate, more equitable, accessible education for all of our children. It's my dream that this kind of education will be available to every child. Joining together, sharing ideas, passing that along, growing. And it continues to grow. And I welcome you to join us. Teach your kids.