EP 20: My Friend Nick: The 13-Year Old With a Mindset That's More Powerful Than Brain Cancer

Welcome to the Making of a dm. Nick the Brave. Today's show is a special guest that you've never heard of from before. The winner of the two super bowl championship tickets that I gave out to this amazing young man. You're going to hear his story and more importantly, how his story can make a massive impression on your life. So with that said, let's get started.

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Hey there. It's your boy, Mark Evans, dm. The Making of dm. Today I have a special guest. We have Nicholas the Brave here. What's up, Nicholas?

Nothing.

How you doing, buddy?

Good.

Good, man. So we're sitting here in beautiful Parkland, Florida. Why are we sitting here? To do a podcast show, right?

To tell my story.

Yeah. You got a story to talk about, right?

Yeah.

Yeah. You got a lot of cool stuff to share, guys. What we want to do is we're going to have a conversation with Nicholas, kind of where he's at, kind of what's going on, his mindset, kind of where he's going and all this cool stuff. So, Nicholas, talk about your intro. Like, Nicholas the Brave. Why did they call you Nicholas the Brave in clinic?

Cancer clinic. I wouldn't fight the nurses. Yeah, yeah. You see the little kids screaming, and then if you do it positively, they like you better.

Yep.

And that's why you got the nickname.

Well, the cool story you told me about was with the quarters, right? Yeah, I was like, the quarter story.

They're not quarters.

They're like, oh, just a coin.

Yeah. And you would. After you got your vitals taken with the cuff temperature and the like, thing, they would give you a coin. And I wouldn't always give it to the little kids. So they had two.

Nice. And they can leave. And they get. What do they get?

Like, bouncy balls.

Bouncy balls and stuff like that.

A little, like, dollar store. Oh, yeah, yeah.

That's cool. So, Nicholas, tell. Talk about your story. And you're leaving, what was it? Panama City?

Yeah.

On vacation. This is what, three or four years ago?

Yeah.

So what was going on? What happened?

I love crabs. So we thought it was crab sickness. But we went to our local physicians, and they gave me, like, shots, and my arm and nails didn't work for my migraine. And then we come back, and they found cancer in the middle of my brain. If you went like this and like this, it would be right in the middle. And they said it was cancer. So we had to do chemo. I had an adult dose of chemotherapy and then adult dose of radiation, and that didn't. It worked. And then I was good for a year or two, and then it came back, and then I had more. But they did more chemotherapy for every day for a month and then in the hospital for a month.

Right.

Every five days. So there'd been a week and then chemo week and chemo week, and it did for five weeks, and then that was it. But I had to stay in the hospital for that.

Oh, you had to stay the whole time?

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

But then I was stable for a year, and then I still. Then it came back again, and then that's the present day.

The present day, huh? And right now, your present day, you're on chemo right now.

Yeah.

Right. This is a little bit different, though. A little bit oral chemo now.

And I have mouth sores.

Yeah. From it.

Yeah.

It's pretty aggressive stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah. Does it help you, though? Like, how do you feel with chemo? I've never. Obviously, I've never had it, but just make you tired?

Both.

Yeah. Tired make you feel grumpy and sick. Sick. Yeah. Sick feeling messes with your fingers and legs and all that nerves.

One chemo, then it's just not all chemo messes with your fingers.

Okay.

And legs and stuff. But the chemo. This chemo just makes me. Chemo makes you think you're gonna throw up, but you do throw up even though you don't have anything stuck in your stomach.

Right. Okay. So it's like a bunch of, like, weird liquid stuff.

Yeah.

You're like, where did that come from?

Yeah.

So right now, what's your chemo schedule look like now?

Two pills. More like 10 pills. But, like, they're different pills.

Okay.

Some are for pain, some are for, like, digestive, and sometimes some are for bathroom regimens, and then some are pain. I already said that. But when we go. And the mouth sores I have right now, we had to stop a med, and now I'm just taking one med. Right.

So you're like the experimental guy. Right? That's why they like you as well in the hospital. They say if you can't handle it, no one can.

Yeah. But when I had my port, Yep. They would stick a needle in for my chemo, but I don't have any port anymore. Right. But they tried, like, a trial thing on me, like one of the needle things. It wasn't very good.

Didn't feel too good, huh?

No, it was like if you had, like, a razor blade that went like this and on a needle, and you pulled it out and it pulled.

Oh, wow. Yeah, it doesn't feel good. So a lot of people are wondering how we met, right? Why are we sitting here talking on a podcast show about you and I? So what about two weeks ago, the super. It was about two weeks ago, Right. We were doing a Super bowl giveaway of two tickets to someone, and. And I did a whole promotion talking about, you know, I want to find someone that's an amazing person that has something going on in their life that is insanely powerful, like, you know, wild. It's, like, over the top, which your case is definitely, amazingly over the top for such a young man. And we ended up picking you. But what I did, I did a Facebook Live. A guy, actually, that lives in this complex knows Nick. Nick is the one that shot the video to me for you. And then I talked to Nick. I talked to you guys, and now we're sitting here two weeks later. Pretty wild, right?

Yeah.

So you went to the super bowl already?

Yeah.

You liked the Super Bowl? Did you guys have a good time?

Yeah.

What was your favorite part of the Super Bowl?

When the Chief won.

That's it. And not only that, you're hanging out with that little celebrity kid. That was cool. He was out on the field right after you talked to him, right?

Yeah.

That's pretty neat. You like. You like. The seats were good.

Yeah.

The food was good.

Yeah.

Yeah. I saw you on the jumbotron throwing food at people, peanuts at people. No. So that's how we met. Like, everyone I talk to is typically in a business owner, entrepreneur of some sort. And what I love about you and, you know, what you got going on in your life is your attitude in life. Right?

Yeah.

It's so powerful. There's some guys that call me and gals and they think they have a lot going on in their life. And then I hear your story. I'm like, we have nothing going on. So you told me a good story, and you kind of started sharing it about the positive attitude of dealing with where you're at. Right.

Cancer is not a bad thing if you go through it negative, because when you feel bad, you're saying, I give up when you're negative, but when you're positive, you can strongly fight through it. And then when you're not. Yeah, that's what I told my mom. Negative makes you feel worse. Positive makes you feel better.

Yeah. It's literally as simple as that. But getting it in your brain to understand that. Right. It's a big deal because you see. You probably see a lot of kids that are negative. Right. With it. How do they deal with it when they're negative? You kind of see them just kind of screaming and kicking.

No, they're just, like, down inside.

Yeah. How do you get up inside? How do you wake up and get positive and all that every day?

Because I wake up during the day.

Yeah. That's the battle, right? Just being able to wake up. So you got that attitude. But have you ever read any books and understand the positive and negative mindset?

No.

You just kind of figured it out that your mom and dad's helped you with that. Clearly.

Yeah.

Pretty cool, people.

My dad stays up if I can't sleep, and he's my morning person, and my brother's nice to me now.

He's not hitting you in the head anymore, wrestling around? No. I think what's cool about this is, you know, it is. It's so much. It's all mindset, you know, how you see the world. It's not even that. How you see yourself, how you see others. And you get pain, of course. Yeah.

But better if you take it in a positive way.

Yeah. Like what's, like, a bad day for you look like stomach hurts. Is that what it is? A lot of stomach pain?

Yeah.

So you just lay there.

Me, it was stomach pain. But like anything else. Nauseous stuff and pain, Tingling in your legs or pain? Yeah. You hit something on your hand, it hurts.

Yeah.

If you're in my head. When my head was bald, it was sensitive.

Oh, was it?

Yeah.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Wow. So what's a good day look like for you? So you get up? I mean, do you. How's your sleeping and everything? You got a pretty crazy schedule, right?

Yeah.

So you don't sleep that much?

No, but when I can, I do.

Yeah, I know. Your mom was sending me some pictures of you passed out in the afternoon. That's good.

Yeah.

You got to get your rest anytime you can get to sleep, right?

Yeah.

Is it just because you're anxious and you got a lot of projects going on and you're going on, or you just don't feel like sleeping?

Just don't feel like sleeping.

Yeah, yeah.

Some days I'm up all night and sometimes I can go to bed at like 8 and sometimes 10 and something like 12.

Oh yeah. Do you, do you. When you're laying there and you can't go to sleep, are you thinking about, are you reading? Are you watching tv? Are you playing games? What do you do?

Play games? Yeah, my iPad. I have this like iPad Pro thing and then nurses, when I brought it to the first time. Is that a tv? I like to be positive because I always said God gave me cancer because a little one. I give my coins to the little ones because that's just off topic. But like God gave me cancer because the little one couldn't take it.

Yeah.

So that's why I have multiple cancers.

Uh huh.

Yeah.

Well. So what kind of cancer do you exactly have?

The first one, there's not really a name. I just have brain tubers now. But the first one was called a penoblastoma. Don't know how to spell it.

I was gonna say don't ask me.

But it would be. If you took a diagram like I showed you, it would be right in the middle. And that's on your pineal gland, which is the thing that produces melatonin. That's why you don't sleep. And it rocked my final fluid. So massive headache and we were coming home fine and I would throw up every 20 minutes.

Right in those bags, right?

Yeah.

Thank God they have those bags, right? I always thought that was for trash. So God gave you cancer because the little kids couldn't handle. Right, yeah. That's pretty cool outlook. So what's it like when you're at the hospital? Is there like a lot of kids in there hanging out with their parents or what?

It's like, it's like there's two wings of it. So when you're sick and can't be by people, there's like this closed door room in like a hospital. Like you go to like get a physical or something and then there's another side where it's just like a curtain and there's like a loose chair and then a couple chairs, like a normal chair, and then there's a couple. And then they stick you if you have a pore and they stick you if you have IVs, IVs. Those suck.

Yeah. They don't feel good, right?

No, but. Sorry.

No, it's fine. So at the school, so when you go to the doctor's office or hospital, are the parents in the waiting room waiting or Is this an all day thing or what's it look like they.

Have to the parents, they come with you. They're in the room with you. It would suck if you couldn't have parents there. Yeah, but they come in and then you get like. They tell how many meds you are taking and if you still take that med and if you need a refill on the med or what the doctor says.

Yeah, you could probably be a doctor with all the stuff you know about this stuff, couldn't you? Yeah, yeah. Probably too much stuff. You probably know too much.

I already have the netters like medical books.

Oh dear. You kind of learn what it does and what it means and all that. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Well, on your side, kind of. What kind of goals? I mean, that's where you're at. You're 13, you'll be 14 June 23rd. Right. Is that correct? You have any big plans for your birthday? No, not yet. No. Maybe there could be something big one day in your plans for that. Right? With what you're working on, what kind of goals and dreams do you have right now? What are you working on?

Chemos. Chemo Puppy Can Chemo Kitties and canines.

Yep. That's your website.

Yeah, and that's me. But the main idea was to go to a hospital and have like a sheep. They could pick a cat dog or a puppy.

Right.

And that's what. Because I already have four dogs. So I don't need any more dogs. But I want more dogs. But I don't need any more. I had a dog I got for Christmas two years ago and she knows I'm sick and helps me up the stairs.

That's cool.

And still wait for me to get up the stairs. So she can go up the stairs. But they always need like a companion. Not other than others than their parents or their brothers or their sisters.

Right. So it's kind of like an animal to give you relief and be there to support you and help you and all that. Right. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it's kind of like your buddy. If you're not sleeping, they're not sleeping. You kind of hang out with them. Right. So you have the Chemo Kitties and canines. That's gonna be your website that people can click on and go and register and just kind of follow what you got going on. Also people could follow you on Bumpy on Instagram. Right.

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They can follow that on the show and see that and all that because you got a lot of cool stuff you're gonna be sharing over there. What about. Excuse me. What about your book? You're working on a book right now too, right?

Like a guy through cancer?

Uh huh.

What? MRIs are like what a port's like. And some. The needles are scary too.

Yeah, very scary. Right. So like I'm still afraid of needles.

But some needles are like wrong. The first time I got my flu shot when I was in chemo, it was like that long.

Oh, wow. Where do they stick it?

In my arm.

Oh, really?

It's the same thing as a normal foo slot.

Okay.

It's just deeper.

Okay. Go straight to the source. Huh. That's pretty wild. You're not afraid of that stuff anymore? No, it's like whatever.

Yeah.

You know, it's just going to be a pinch for a second.

I just got over IVs. So.

So in your book, you want to teach people about MRIs, about cancer? What. What else inside of the book?

How to deal with it.

Yeah.

Positiveness.

Yeah. Because at the end of the day, right, you get cancer, you're either going to deal with it or not.

Yeah. You know, you can't just. Some cancers are treated this. You don't have to do chemo. You can just go in to like surgery and they can take it out.

Right. But mine was non operable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't be messing with that brain. Right?

Yeah.

That's not good. So on your book though, is it for the K or for the parents?

Both.

Yeah.

And if you just want to read the book, you can.

Yeah, well, I can't read. I just need a lot of pictures. Can you put some pictures in there for me? All right, cool. So when you found out the day. Take me back when you guys found out because I'm sure it's for your mom and them was pretty crazy, huh? It was a very big day because.

I've always been smarter than the Adrian bear, so I knew what it was.

Okay.

So when the first time they wouldn't. You. They wouldn't let me drink any water. They wouldn't let me eat anything.

Wow.

Because they didn't know what it was.

Okay.

So. And then they gave me like swabs.

Yep.

So I wouldn't dry out, but that was it.

Those ice swabs or whatever. Right. You sucking on them?

Yeah.

Those are fun. But. So you find out and what's your brain think instantly like? Okay, I gotta. We gotta figure out where's the solutions here.

Yeah.

You're Very solution driven.

Yeah.

You know. You know that, right? You know what that means?

No.

Well, you go for solutions. You think of the positive. I gotta deal with it. Let's just solve it like, you know, this needle. I'm gonna get a needle. Just give it to me. I gotta do it. It's a solution. It's gonna give me the next step. Let's keep going. Right? That's very positive thinking. That's a good thing.

Yeah.

Because some people are thinking, thinking, thinking. They never do it or they go negative. You know, it's like, poor me, you know, they pity party. You know what a pity party is? So they have a pity party. The problem with the pity parties, no one brings gifts to pity parties. Right. So for you, you have a very amazing outlook on life with where you're at and, you know, that's, you know, your mom and dad and everyone around you support. Pretty amazing support group around you.

It was like Christmas when that I would get, like, bunches of candy. And I still have candy still. But it's really old.

It's sugar. It won't expire. I'm sure you're good. So on your book, though, like, I believe, because you and I have talked about this, I think your book's more for the parents than the children because it's coming from a child's perspective about cancer. You know what I mean? I think that's a good thing. On your book, like, when you're writing that book, are you thinking about the pieces? Are you. Like, how do you feel like when you're. When you. When you're sitting there doing your chemo stuff, how do you think mom and dad feels? Are you thinking about that? Sad.

No.

But they shouldn't feel sad, though, right? Because you're like, I got this. I'm good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But the first time they. When they find out, they cry. But, yeah, my doctor always said, you're gonna cry, parents are gonna cry, brother's gonna cry, you know. But after they found out and that's done, they don't really do. But the first time I struggled was eating. This time I can eat, but, like, it's hard.

Yeah. Because the mouth sores. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now you like the real yogurt, right? You don't like the Greek yogurt?

No, no.

So, no, I think the reason I'm bringing that up on your book, I think writing perspective. Hey, mom and Dad, I know you're sat kind of what you're talking about, because it sounds like your doctor painted the picture of the process you're going to go through. Discover we have cancer. Oh, my gosh. This is a big deal. Boom. Let's grieving moment. Now we have to go. And let's get solution moment. Right.

Yeah.

From your writing. So it's like, hey, I'm hanging out here. This isn't fun. I feel like crap. But mom and Dad, I got this right. It makes them feel good, makes you feel good, and everyone's moving forward.

All the nurses are pretty confident too.

They're confident?

Yeah.

Yeah.

In stuff. Doing this stuff.

They better be. You don't want an unconfident nurse in there.

But there are some who need more training.

Yeah, but you told me this. Yep.

But they're all good nurses.

That's awesome.

I always say they need like, after like 10 years, they need like a re.

Set, like very reassessed, kind of redo.

Don't like IVs, and they kind of get complacent.

They get lazy on their job.

Yeah.

They're just grabbing you, sticking you and going. Right.

Yeah.

Instead of, like, calm them down, relax, take it easy, huh? Maybe your book can have that. Talk to them about, hey, I'm. I'm a person over here. You probably should be a little gentler. Huh? Be more gentle to me. What. What would you like to tell, like, a someone that's in business? I mean, obviously, you know, it's all mindset driven, everything you're about. But in business, someone's like, because you're a businessman, you know, with your books, your podcast shows. Because in business, you got to make money. You got to create solutions and solve problems for people. That's how you get paid. Right. And what would you, like, what would you tell them? Like, if they're struggling, maybe they're having, you know, issues with their teams or businesses. Just stay moving forward. Right. Positive and moving forward.

In the long run, everything's gonna be okay.

Yep.

But if you to go negative, it's a short, long.

Yep.

So you'll be done.

Exactly. I love it.

But no longer. Everything's going to be okay.

Yeah.

If you're positive.

I agree. Because right now with the books and the websites and all that, that's legacy building. I wish I was legacy building at your age. You know, you want to leave a big legacy in life. Right. What do you want your legacy to be? Just kind of helping people.

Yeah.

You're a big helper.

I want to be an oncologist, which is a cancer doctor, like my doctor.

Yep.

But cancer is a long time.

Yeah.

Because I have to go to appointments when I'm like 20.

Really?

And then. But I go to an adult doctor when I'm older than the child and mercy thing.

That's cool. So you already have the plan where you gotta go? Cause they have. For the kids, the teenagers and adults.

Right, but the teenagers still go to children, Morrissey.

Oh, do they? Okay, cool.

But when you're, like, over 20.

Okay. You go to the adult side. So your doctor sounds like he or she's been a very big influence in helping you navigate this process, Right?

Yeah.

What's his name or her name?

He's a guy.

Okay.

His name's Kevin Ginn. He's really funny. He always wear a bow tie.

Oh, does he?

And funny socks. I started that for him. Funny socks.

Oh, yeah.

I always have funny socks on.

That's cool.

Yeah.

What's your favorite funny socks?

They mixed it up. It was eggs and bacon.

Nice.

So it didn't look like a pear.

Yeah, no, that's cool.

But I had some. We went to San Diego and we got these unicorn ones and.

Oh, yeah.

Mom said, I didn't know you would like those.

You like it all right. There's no problem with that.

Why don't you tell them about the one chapter in your book about how you want treat, how to help kids, how they're going to treat you, how others are going to treat you. They need to explain it more. Explain it more.

Explain what side on that.

You're going to feel bad. You're gonna feel worse. You're gonna feel. You're gonna try to have to eat again. Try to learn how to eat again. That's how I did. But it was hard to eat because everything came the first time. Everything tasted like cardboard.

Yeah. For sure.

So it would be like eating cardboard all day and then. But some things tasted different.

Oh, yeah.

But. And Nicholas, like when you lost your hair and people stared at you and. Blah. When you get stared at Disneyland.

Yeah.

Because you're wearing a pink. Pink hat and you're a cancer kid. It feels bad, right?

It feels bad for you because you feel like they're looking at you and judging you and all that.

Yeah.

Yeah. What would you like? So, like, if I saw you and I didn't know you and you do have cancer and you have the hat on you, how would you want someone to acknowledge you or say hi to you or.

Like, I'm not like a disability person.

Yeah.

Like, I have a disability, but it's not like I don't have an arm.

Yeah, exactly.

But I'm not trying to hate on the people who don't have arms.

Exactly.

It's not like I look some way that you have to look at me like that. I'm a monster.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

So. But when someone sees you, like, hey, what's that? Like, just treat you like anybody else. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

And don't drink, like, don't baby me like, oh, is that okay? No, I don't want to be baby.

Exactly.

But I'm always the baby, so.

Well, that's your mom. She's babying. You're her little baby. She said. Right. No, I mean, listen, I think at the end of the day it's a good insight because a lot of times people don't know how to look at someone and you know, that's different in their eyes. How do they treat them? Do they acknowledge it? Do they just stare and make comments? Or do they just come up and acknowledge whispering, yeah, that's terrible. Right? Because now you don't know what they're saying. Are they talking good or bad or negative? Whatever. Right. It's weird. So if anything, you just want to come and say, hi, what's your name, you know, what's going on.

Yeah.

You know, treat you like you said, like a real person. And don't baby Nicholas. I like to be baby, though. I wish someone would baby me. But. So you got that going on. And then when the parent, like, I love the book. I'm excited for the book. I'm excited for the website. As you know, we're gonna be working on it bigger. Okay.

I don't have any topics to make it bigger.

Oh, we got lots of topics, my man. We got lots of topics. You know, what to do when we're not sleeping, you know, what do you do to fill your time? You know, what to do when we first found out we have cancer. What to do when, you know, like we're talking about, like when kids are staring at you, what to do. There's so many topics. I don't think topics is a problem. I think getting clear, I mean, because you're just going through it, right? You're just, you're in the moment, you're in it, you know. Do you keep a journal? No, no. Have you thought about that?

No.

You know, just like on your notes section in your phone or on your iPad. Just like if you're feeling weird, just. So what I do, I just like write notes. Just like 15 word notes. Like, you know, you know, I have a terrible day going on, but I gotta Stay positive, you know, like just what's going on in life. It's just microclips, but it's good for you. Cause that would be. Help you for your book. That's how I write my books. You know, I might have a story that. And if I keep seeing it come up, that's probably a chapter I should talk about. Not to the world, but to myself. Because we have to deal with it. We gotta push forward. And then that would become a chapter in one of my books in the future, you know, and then. And it just keeps revolving. And the more you do that, the more you learn. Like, I usually write something two or three times a day, you know, And I might look at it today, I might not never look at it. Right. But at least they get it out of the brain and put it on paper, if you will, you know, probably help you a little bit there. Just like your podcast show. You ever think about doing a podcast show by yourself? No.

I don't have a YouTube channel. And when I'm alone, I have states. Right. So I can never do it.

Yeah.

By myself. So I can do talking. Like, to you.

Sure. But you're doing awesome. I mean, you're great at it.

Yeah.

I think what would be cool is what if you had, like, a little YouTube channel. Not little, a big YouTube channel. And you could turn it into a podcast show as well, where you're interviewing other kids with cancer that you hang out with, interviewing your doctors, your nurses. You know, I picture your podcast show or YouTube channel called Nicholas the Brave. Yeah, you know, that's a pretty cool. You know, kids are wearing them.

I don't know how to start one. Yeah, you need, like, millions of dollars to start one. Yeah, but there's always, like, a small YouTube channel no one cares about.

That's. Well, we only need mom to care about it. That's how it starts. I care about it. So you got two fans already. You know, I'm sure your dad, your uncles, your cousins, everyone cares about it. You can't worry about the big stuff. You got to worry about the little stuff, because the little stuff equals big stuff overall. How much do you think it costs to set up a podcast show?

Maybe a $2,000. Yeah, because you have to buy the, like, YouTube thing, and you still make money on that. But I don't know how to make one.

Okay, well, we'll show you. You know, clearly we're shooting videos for YouTube and podcast, and my buddy runs a great show called the Podcast Factory. He was the guy that produces My podcast shows. So what I'll do is I'll make sure I hook you up with him and pay for that and all that. Get these taken care of. Get your own podcast show. We'll get you the equipment, we'll get you whatever you want, whatever you need. You know, as long as you're in there hanging out and doing the right, you know, making a cool podcast show. Maybe get some dogs running around in the background and all that. But I think it'd be really cool. I'll hook up. So we have the website, we have the book piece, we have a podcast show. What else you want to do?

I don't know.

You don't know? Just keep moving forward.

Just get the word out there.

Yeah. What word? What's the biggest thing you want to get out there? The word out there meaning, you know, people with cancer. Yeah.

It's not contagious.

Yeah, exactly. It's not contagious. That's funny. That's real though, right? Because people think it's contagious. Huh. That's wild. So on your show, what, like, who would you have. On your show, who would be your first guest?

You?

Oh, yeah, that'd be awesome, man. I'd love to be your first guest. Where are we going to do it at? Who knows? We'll figure it out. It sounds like your doctor would be an amazing guest on your show.

Yeah.

Sounds like he's a very amazing person. He's. I'm sure he is. He's helping a lot of people. Right?

Yeah.

Just like you. You're really, you know, your show. I always talk in my world, one to many. How do you talk for an hour like we're doing, and it goes out to many people in the world for the rest of our life. So a lot of times the problem with the doctor, they. They work really hard. One to one. That's why he's busy because he's only has so much time in the day. Right. And he's got to sit down with you. That's what makes him a great doctor.

He's my doctor. So I love Converse. And he likes. We met him at the KC Art Fair.

Okay.

And I gave him. I love Converse. So it was just iguana and a Converse view. And he lived in the Converse view. And he still has it up.

Oh, yeah. That's cool. Because you like art, right? Who's your favorite artist?

Vincent Vinco.

Yeah.

I don't have anything on right now, but I have a bag of his.

Yep. Yeah, the computer bag. Right. I saw that's cool. Vincent Van Gogh. But I think, you know, your voice could be heard by many people. You're making a massive impact. Not even if. Honestly, even if you don't make an impact. You made an impact in my life, you know? So you got so much to share to the world, you know? It's pretty cool, right? It's wild, man. You're so young. I wish I was in your shoes at this age. You got a great advantage.

I want to get a tattoo on my port scar.

Yeah.

Of a cancer ribbon.

Okay.

A yellow one. That's because it. That recognizes kids. Cancer. Like, my age cancer and, like, down the age.

That's cool, man. How old do you have to be before you get tattoos?

I have to be out of college.

Oh, yeah. Your mom might say you might have to be 50 before you get a tattoo. I don't have any tattoos yet. I'm too afraid to. I used to do piercings. Ear piercings, you know? But other than that, I was too afraid to get a tattoo because it's permanent. But that's a pretty cool tattoo there, because you already have a tattoo. It's just a scar.

Oh, I do.

That's your tattoo.

I have three.

Oh, yeah? Three little dots.

Tell them why, Nicholas.

Yeah.

Line me up.

They. What?

Line.

Oh, that's how you line me up.

Radiation. Radiation.

Oh, wow. So they have three dots to put you on the line, and that's how.

They know one down here, too.

All the way down. Wow.

Then one. But.

Wow. Well, man, you're an amazing person. You got a lot of cool stuff to share. I want to help any way I can. For sure, you know? I know. Keep going. I think another thing, too, is what's cool about what you've done. You may not even know it is all these people that you come in your life, like Nick, that's how I met you. Like, it seems like they're like inspiration of hopes to you. You're making them excited that you're getting people rooting for you. And that actually helps make things better, too. Right. Instead, if you were negative, you'd be hiding out in your room, not talking to anybody. Poor me, poor me, poor me. And then that's just never going to end well at all. Now you're just out. You're positive you're tired. You know, you're. But you're still moving, Right? Anything else to say, Bunny?

No.

No. You have a good time.

Yeah.

What are you. What are you doing next? Oh, we haven't even told them where you're going next after you leave the house? Disney. Disney World. Disney World lands in west coast, right? I don't know. I think so. Disney World for the next three days, right? Monday to Thursday. What do you want to do out there?

Buy stuff.

What are you gonna buy?

I don't know.

You don't know?

Socks.

Funny socks.

Because we went with like, make a wish. Not like make a wish, but they gave us like $10,000 to spend. Whatever. Yeah, I don't remember what the. And they gave us a couple after I met Gordon Ramsay.

Oh, cool. So that was cool. You like cooking, right? That's cool. What's your favorite thing you cook?

I like to cook those easy fake things.

Oh, yeah. Those are good, right? Those are good. Those will get you in trouble. There's a lot of calories in those things for me. I'm too old. At your age, eat everything. At one point you lost a lot of weight though, too, right?

I was skinny, yeah.

So you were what? And you lost what. What size were you? And then you lost how much weight?

I was like 200 pounds.

You were no, no, 130. 130 pounds.

Then you went down to 70.

And you went down to 70 pounds. And that was what, probably 11 or 12 years old. 11. 11 years old. Wow, man, you're feeling good now. You look good, healthy. You ready to jump in the ring and take on someone, right? Take on life. That's pretty cool, man. Well, I appreciate you being here so, people, you guys could follow him at bumpy_06 on his Instagram, as well as chemo, kitties and canines, right? Anything else to say, guys? Just follow them.

Right?

Awesome, Nicholas. Thank you, buddy. Thank you.

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