Ep 25: From Coal Miner to Multi-Millionaire Business with Cory Gregory

Welcome to the making of a dm.

Are you ready to get pumped up? I hope you are, because today's the day I'm going to bring in my boy Corey Gregory, who I've known for nearly 20 years. You may or may not know this guy, but at the end of this episode, you're going to want to get to know him, understand what he's up to. More importantly, how you can get involved. So with that said, let's get started.

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What's up, everybody? It's your boy, Mark Evans, dm here and hanging out with my boy Corey Gregory. We get started here in a second that you guys are coming on to There. You get ready, man. I was thinking about you today. I was getting ready to. What can you see?

Yeah, a little pump, a little iron.

Dumbbell shred over here. I'm trying to get done, dude, people are. You're tearing people up over. I love it. That's in a good way.

Yeah, it's been cool.

Yeah. So guys, G. We'll get it. Wait for a second because everyone's coming on live, but what's going on, man?

Shoot, man. Just pushing forward, man. I think like my skill set right now is helping out a lot of people, you know, a lot of people weren't prepared to be stuck home, not being able to go to the gym and work out and also a source of motivation. So honestly, man, I feel like I was made for this type of stuff to be straigh with you, you know what I mean? I mean, so I just kind of settled in after shaking it off for a couple days like everyone else, you know what I'm saying? And then settled in. It was ready to go. And it's been actually very positive because I think I've. I've lent some, you know, excitement to people's workouts when they thought they was hard up.

Yeah, man. You know, I'm the same thing, man. I. I really like. I love what's going on, as weird as that sounds, you know, but we're gritty guys, dude. I think that's what people forget is like the people that are elevating and always growing. We're gritty. That's why we're there.

Yeah, man, that doesn't, that doesn't, you know, when I got to like kind of roll my sleeves up, you know, we both come from blue collar backgrounds and we've known each other pretty much our entire careers, which is also kind of wild. And it's another man, I can always expect to have a nice hat on when we, when we operate. So yeah, look, once again it's more my stuff, more felt like on my kids. I couldn't see my kids play sports. You know, they're, they're the things that they're dealing with and then like from a work standpoint, not being able to. I've been going to my gym. I own a gym for 20 years. I haven't been there in over a month now. I could still go there, but as a content producer I've got to put myself in the same situation as everyone else so I can produce quality content to help enrich, you know, what they're up against too. So I chose not to go. I've been to the gym since the day they said you can't go.

That's.

No, it's weird.

It is weird. I mean because you're a die hard, I think. Guys, before we get started. What's up, Shane, Tim, Nick and all you guys, I'm here with my boy Corey Gregory from, he's in Ohio. Met him in Columbus. Dude, it's. It's 20 plus years. It's been a minute, it's.

Oh no. We met through a barter network.

Which is so. Right.

I think that's what it was, wasn't it Mark?

Yeah, yeah. Bbx, right? Or something like that.

Bxi, I think it was.

That's awesome man. But as I'm sitting here with Corey, he was a trainer and small town gym guy. Started off. Corey, your story was you're a coal miner?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I was a coal miner, saved my money, moved to Columbus. I live, I grew up about two hours away. Came here with about 20 grand to start going to the local community college for one year to get my exercise specialist certificate. But within that process, six months in, I started training clients and got pushed on by management. Ended up at 20 years old starting my own personal training studio for less than $5,000. And actually 1750 of it went to rent for three months. The rest was for equipment. And Mark, you remember like people were bringing me equipment, like I was doing everything I could do, including barter stuff, which is how I met Mark. I used to Barter with a carpet guy and give him sessions. I bartered my freaking wedding ring for my wife back then. A lot of people don't. I mean, that was another funny story. Like, I met a lot of people through just networking and being creative and fast forward, you know, I built a personal training business for 10 years, you know, from very humble beginnings, and then started a supplement business that did extremely well and sold in 60,000 doors in a hundred countries. And then since then, since I sold my percentage in that, I've been building more direct to customer smaller businesses that are, you know, doing really well. So I've been blessed. It's been 20 years of fitness and personal development, you know, in my life, which is what I love to do.

So. Absolutely, man. And your company now is Max Effort Muscle.

Yeah, Max. Max up for Muscles, the supplement brand. We go direct to customer. And then I have Corey G Fitness, which is an online app where I help people with their workouts. And really we have, we have members in the same areas I used to sell across the world. We have members in 100 countries and helping people, especially with this pandemic, being able to have quality workouts at their house for, you know, with just some dumbbells or bands or whatever they got.

Absolutely. And guys, if you're not following Corey, you got to. He's out in the backyard, you know, doing it up. I wouldn't expect anything less. So that's what's awesome about it. It's like normal. I think it's like, that's the thing is it's norm. It's like, it's like we, we adapt, you know, And I think that's what people have to understand is successful people are constantly adapting and evolving. That's.

Yeah. By the way, here's the one thing me and John talked about. You know, we have a podcast called Business and Biceps, me and my partner, John Fosco, and we talked about there's an element of limbo and entrepreneurship that you're just used to, right? It's like you almost get comfortable or it's naturally how you operate. You're just always, you know, pushing and taking chances and calculated risk and things. And we've been doing this for 20 years, so there's an element of that for the whole world right now. And I think that's why there were so many people struggling, that this is how we in, in, in a way kind of operate anyway. It's more faith based and work and, and not that people aren't working hard, but when they can't work or they don't know when they can go back to work, you know what I'm saying? And we don't know how long certain ventures are going to last, if they're going to work, if you know what I mean, if certain books are going to sell. I know you just launched a new book. So it's like there's all those elements of limbo that we're kind of used to. And I think that might be why that adaption in limbo is maybe why I don't feel as is, you know, kind of crazy during this time, as maybe some others do.

Yeah, I mean, you're right. It's like the abnormal situation is our normal life. Like, you're right. You know, we wake up, we don't know where our money's coming from today. We just know we're gonna bust our ass and do. Do work and get with people and, you know, push forward. We're gonna shoot this video. We don't know what will happen from it. One person could show up or a million. We just never know. And I think that's kind of like our constant state of, you know, we're not reactive. We're very, like, plotting. We're just pushing and pushing and pushing. And I think, you know, it's very interesting. Yeah, it's. I never thought of it that way. Because it does change the game.

Yeah. Because there's so much unknown. Right. And one of the things we're used to is the unknown because we have the belief with the actions that, you know, things are going to happen, you know, at least towards the direction we're after, and we adapt along the way. So that's really what this is worldwide right now. And I think that's why, you know, it weeds out, I think, real and true entrepreneurs to the fake action we had going on out here for the IG world forever. And, you know, I don't know. I think it's an. I think this is an interesting thing we'll talk about, obviously, for the rest of our lives and how we operated through it as businessmen and as entrepreneurs.

100% man. I think I always talk about this. You kind of what we're talking about is the me economy. You and I as business owners, dude, we're always focused on me and you a lot like ourself. If it is, if it can't help, if we can't grow a push and all that, like, it sounds selfish from the outside in, but the reality is, if you and I aren't growing and developing like you do lunch and learn. You're pushing yourself, you're expanding that. Like some people say, oh well, you could spend time with your family all you could do this or that. Like, dude, like, I gotta take care of myself. Like, if I don't succeed, no one else succeeds around me. Like, that's how it works.

Well, there's a period of time that I've understood about myself for a long time that I need that development of a couple hours each morning. And as I get older, it actually gets even more severe, to be honest with you. Like, you know, I'm, you know, I'm not driving to the gym, but it's normally 35 minutes. So I'd be getting development there and development back. That's an hour and 10 minutes. My lunges, which are 20 or 30 minutes, that's another, you know, 20, 30 minutes of development. I'm getting an hour and a half there, plus some additional time throughout the day. So like I'm studying like two hours a day, not to mention working out during some of that time and not some of that time. But you know, if I get an hour and a half, two hours of workout, hour and a half, two hours of study like that. That's why I, my normal routine is I get up at 3am because I'm trying to fit that in with, with the family too. So, you know, it's a, it's a crazy balance. But I think that's what keeps me sharp along the way and allows me to provide a lot of value for the people that are supporting my businesses, which is what I do.

Absolutely. Man. You know what? I love every, you know, Corey, you know, I do the 4:44 thing, you know, and all that. Yep. She's up way early. She's at 3 o' clock. Is, you know, you're getting up probably maybe a half hour later right now. Right. With everything going on, are you still.

Yeah. No, because I don't have the drive time. So I'm like, look, for this month or two months, whatever this, the situation is, I'll grab an extra half hour, you know what I'm saying? Hour. And even, sometimes even up to an hour, as long as I'm rocking and rolling between 4 and 5 during this time, the days is so long, I think we can all, you know, say that. So it's like there, there's plenty of time because I think I'm not taking kids to practices. I'm not, you know, going and doing things at, at school with them. Like, so the time that's Elapsed, you know, I feel like I grab an extra half hour or more and ain't gonna hurt nothing right now.

Yeah. It's like time is what we're all chasing more of. We all want more time and we.

And we got it right now.

Got it, man. And now some people are like, oh, I don't know what to do with all this time. Like for you, for me specifically, I get in trouble, man. If I got too much time on my hands and I'm not like building something, I get in trouble, start getting complacent, start wanting to hang out and drink with the buddies, you know, or whatever and you know, go to the pool and just pop open a stelter or whatever. Yeah, you know, dude, I'm just so focused. I like, I'm doubling down, man. I know you are. Like, we're doubling every business guy I know. We're double and triple and tinfolding down on every aspect of the business.

Yeah, no, you have to. Especially what's so funny is the in home dumbbell workouts that I did, really for people that were traveling or that were entry into some of my programs, that's the most popular stuff. And that, that's what's so wild is it's amazing how your business can shift and adapt. And if I wouldn't have shifted and adapted if I would still be going to. This is just awareness of the business. If I would have been going to the gym that I own by myself, doing the same workouts that no one has access to the equipment, why would they follow instead? It's like one of the workouts that I took a low, kind of a low amount of time to in the beginning. I just kind of threw it as an added extra. Becomes the most popular thing in the whole business. And then I start releasing them every week, every two weeks. Like, because I want people to be like, man, this dude over delivered. When I was the most bored in the most unmotivated, he brought me out of that and added more value to my life. And so that's the way I keep thinking of things is like with my skill set, how, how can I make some enrich someone else's life during a time when their, their brain could be going all different directions? Because when people have a lot of time away from entertaining themselves, that's when the real thoughts and the, the battles and the things they haven't really handled, which a lot of us have handled because we develop ourselves all the time. That shit's real right now, man. I think it's. It's interesting because the entertainment level, even though we still have the Internet and our phones is still at a low level because you can't interact with nobody.

Yeah G. Could you imagine us dealing with this with zero Internet?

I mean. Oh, in my trailer, bro, I'd been so bored.

We would all be in trouble.

Hey, I would have been just putting some hours in on them sand weights, boy.

No guys, you guys got to check out Coreyg fitness.com Gee, that's like the best deal in the century. Like it's like 100 bucks a year.

That's like a joke, you know.

I'm like dude, you need to charge more like this.

Oh yeah, 8.99 was priced because my crowd originally and, and, and now I've been, I've been on barstool a couple different times and some other things. I had some younger crowd but like I priced it so everyone could afford it. Mark. So I had a lot of college kids that followed me early. I have a lot of young professionals building stuff and I was like, you know what? 899 something everyone pretty much can afford. I know I'm doing like an unbelievable value for that that I'm going to continue to over deliver and I've once again, I've even doubled down on that creating even more content. You know, I challenge myself to write one quality article a day for the whole year. I've easily done. I'm actually probably about 12 or 13 days ahead still for the year. You know, we put up video. There's 1600 videos on that site. I mean it's, it's actually my Life's work of 20 years that loaded up and since 2015 when I, when I actually started the website, I put stuff up there every day and it's not just like some little bullshit curls. I'm putting like thought provoking, I believe, life changing type stuff. My people come to me because they want abs but I'm. I'm trying to teach them a whole better way of operation. Mark.

No, I mean that's what it's about. I think too like if people don't know you and follow you, you're. You're always working towards a goal too. Right.

You know, trying to, you know, on the calendar.

Yeah, get it on the calendar. Set up 90 day 30, whatever it is. Trying to jump higher, trying to dunk. I'm trying to do this, I'm trying to run faster.

Yeah.

Whatever it is, I mean it's, it truly is. I think you got to gamify it to keep you Intrigued and keep you pushing forward and, like, have it stay, like, show progress and. Because someday, dude, like, as you know, we all have bad days. We all do. And if you have that target, you know that, like, hey, I gotta wake up tomorrow and hit it again. Like, you're just. You're going to have a bad year, a bad century.

Well, people don't have, like, a level of commitment to themselves. That's what I started to realize, you know, because obviously I'm a professional at it. So I'm going to do bodybuilding shows, powerlifting meets, or, like, you know, set dates to do certain things. I've done that since I was 17. Literally. I've had multiple dates on the calendar every year since I competed in my first powerlifting meet when I was 17. And I've just followed. And then the content follows and the motivation follows and the push follow follows. And what I started to realize is that no matter what entrepreneurial kind of crazy self talk, commitment isn't real normal for a lot of people. So I was like, how can I start to get these things that can gamify, whether it's lunge and learn, whether it's, you know, one. I'm getting them to commit to something that's difficult every day when they have bad days. And I'm getting them to commit to something that's quality listening material that will hopefully sharpen up their craft or them as a person or whatever they need to work on. And when you get them to commit to a mind and body thing, man, a lot of things start becoming real clear, especially when you get that endomorphic release at the end of any type of training, you get like a moment of clarity when you're coming back from them lunges or your morning walk or whatever it is, like, all right. And then that confidence starts to build, and then you start to say, well, motherfucker, why can't I do that? Why can't. Why can't I go write a book? Why can't I start a business? And so I really think that's kind of the path I lead people down, man. I'm real passionate about it. I couldn't stop it if I tried. Mark, to be honest with you, I think you know that you know me long enough.

Dude, the only way we're stopping is when we're dead.

Yeah.

And the truth is, we actually ain't stopping then because we're creating content so deep, it's gonna keep living that, that.

And that is the plan. Like, I had a friend, I was on a podcast called Barbell Shrug a really long time ago. And it's a really big fitness podcast. And the guy on that castle, he passed away, like, six months later. And this was, like, in, man, like 2000, probably, like, I don't know, 10 or 11. And I remember him having young kids, man, and he had, like, 250 episodes of that show on video and on audio. And I'm thinking, this is how his kids are going to know him, bro. And I started taking podcasts and content real serious after that because I'm going to leave a library of information that could teach my grandkids or their friends or whatever. And I've just always made up this thing in my head where I'm going to be like, grandpa is a G. He set it up for us. You know, not necessarily from a financial standpoint, but financial iq, motivation, understanding. They can. They can do whatever they want. Because when I was up in that trailer, man, talking about being an exercise guy, there was no one that knew anybody that did that. There wasn't no Internet web search you could do that shit didn't exist, Mark.

I know, man. I love it. I think what's cool about it, too, is, like, you know, we're not. I think the biggest thing is what's awesome about what you're talking about is documenting. We're not trying to, you know, sit back and write the best, like, podcast show ever. We're just trying to document our conversation experience. And like you said, that gets handed off. Not only. That takes a lot of stress away, too, because you don't have to create. You just document.

We're just talking.

We would talk normally anyways.

No, dude, we had these conversations back in my personal training studio when we was 22, 23 years old. The other thing is, is that just understanding that I'm uncovering things constantly, right? We're always studying, we're always finding new ways to do things and that, you know, they're part of my experiences can. Can help people maybe get to a point faster, understand things better. Like, you know, me and my mom talking about, like, this is the craziest thing. Like, she's calling me talking about, hey, have you been paying attention to the Nokia stock? Like, they're. They're about to get bought out. I think I'm like, what? Like, you don't understand. Like, we never heard in that trailer, like, margin stocks, you know, like capital gains. Like, we never. We never talked about dividends. Like, that wasn't. I never heard any of these terms I had in one day, Mark. And this is what I love about what I kind of embarked on was the change generations both ways. And I, and I know you've done the same when the generation above you has had different life experiences, you know, more, more definitely financial, you know, security. And then their IQ on talk top of that. Like the things that they're spitting at you about dividends, I'm like, oh, shit. And then on the downside or the generation below me, my kids, I'm giving them stock for Christmas and then teaching them like, they're like, dad, how much is. I saw Amazon's done good. I was looking on my app, on my phone, I'm like, yeah, we bought Amazon at 1337 today. It's $2,400. Like, you'll probably be able to buy your car when you're 16 with that if you want or leave it in there till you're 50. You know what I'm saying? Like, those type of toys talks or my kid asked me what my margin was on my T shirt. And max effort, like, you know that.

That right there crying, you're like, yes, that's fine.

I was like, wealth. Like, when you're poor, no one's teaching you this stuff. Someone has to be the guy or the gal that says, it's me. And now I'm going to then teach these wealth principles. How much I know them. And, and that, that right there is really like a super passion of mine, man. It's cool, dude.

If we don't do it, I, I really think this. And I'm not talking bad about anybody. My fan, if I don't do it, who's going to do it for him?

No, that's the truth.

We know it's real. We know we can do it. We have like, if we don't do it, then who does it? Like, I think it's our responsibility.

Once you, well, once you identify it and once you know, you're willing to do what it takes, I think that's, I think I, I was able to make my mind up to know, like, all right, you know, we grow up watching these amazing sports stars. Jordan, Kobe, Tiger, all these guys that have like this like, all in winning mentality. And you start to think, like, if I can apply these. Plus this work ethic I'm learning from the coal mine and a passion that I love and it helps people on top of it. It's like, if I go with like such a passionate, like, amount of work that I'm willing to sacrifice and do and put in and believe and you know, and calculated risk, like, you know, some amazing things. I just, I don't know, I think I was just ready to say all chips in until it works. And until you do that, I don't know that it will work at the level that you really want it to.

And that's the thing is, is g. You know, this, like, there's levels and levels.

That's for sure.

What. And I think, like, what we're chasing now, we're past the money thing. We still want more money, by the way. I'm not, I'm not knocking the money. Of course you want more. But once you get to a certain level, it's. It becomes like, you're like, oh my God. If I can do that, I can imagine what I could do if I get here. What if I got here, here, here. Like, yeah, you realize how much we're capable of.

It's. It's wild because one thing I fought through a lot. I watched this guy named T. Harvecker speak a long time ago. You know, he is right, of course you do. And he talked about this internal blueprint that everyone has from just the way you grow up and some people never escape it. Right. And that you almost have to rewrite it. And that, that was a ceiling for me for a little while in my career. Thinking I, like, I'm in these positions with these, you know, high level people and these, you know, all these numbers. And I'm thinking like, man, am I, you know, am I really supposed to be here? Or like, what's the. I think I had to get past that belief that, yeah, you are supposed to be here. You did earn this. This is. And yeah, you got to continue to up your game the bigger the zeros get. But yeah, man, I think that was, that limiting belief for me was, was a little bit of a struggle for a period of time. But then once I broke through that and, and honestly, anytime around Arnold, man, Arnold has zero ceiling. So you come away from dealing with him and he's just like, you just know he has no cap on his, like, existence. And you come away thinking like, man, I need to open up my horizons a little bit, you know, and I'm a. And I'm a, I think a very outside the box big thinker, but his is even just so crazy. So like having that impact on me every time I see seeing him around him a couple times a year definitely helps.

Yeah, I mean, I, I think, you know, it's called, I call it borrowing belief. Right. You can get around Arnold and Believe you borrow his belief. You're like, if he can think that big, I can only imagine, like you can throw into it, lean into it and kind of.

I like that.

And then all of a sudden you just pop through a ceiling. And people do that around us. Sometimes we've done that around other people. And you're like, that guy's a dipshit. If he can do it, I can do it.

No, I think, though, I like the borrowing belief. That's a, I've never heard it said that way before, Mark. So that's, that's a cool way because I know that, like, I'm attempting to do that with my young cats that are at the Gym and the 4am Crew. A lot of young business entrepreneurs. And they get around me. And the ones I know that won't be haters, I'll let them in on numbers so they can understand what's possible. The one or the ones that are pursuing business that I know won't turn. Because when they actually figure out how I really operate, I always say that if the haters really knew how I operated, they'd hate even more. But at the end of the day, like, I think one of the biggest things anybody can do for you if you're an intern is show you a little bit under the hood. Just like the roles in the background. Once you know what's there, it's like, wait a second, this dude's doing that? And yeah, 20 years I get, I mean, I put all these things in my head, but like, all right, this isn't as scary. It's possible because when you hear, all right, this dude built multiple seven figure businesses, that seems so scary, right? But then when you see how it operates and you're like, wait a second, it's only like a couple people really like working in this business and this is the way they market and this. And so I think that that right there, kind of understanding, that's a big part of it. So I think people can borrow that belief by be like, this dude believes in what he got going on. Like, why don't I believe in me and then start to develop that? And that's, that's a, that's a dig deep process, though. Some people ain't ready for that.

Yeah, no, man. And not only that, like, what I always get excited about is guys around me that I do let under the hood and they look at me and they're like, dude, if Evans could do it, why can't I take this to nine figures? Yeah, because he's Playing small, you know, I hope like they could like take that. That's what we hope for our kids and everybody. Like, sure. You know, it's like that's what every parent's dream is, in my opinion, is we want our kids to always do better than us. Like, I can only imagine where my kids are going to be. Like, our kids, they hear these conversations like you're talking about like, you know, you know, Mark, what's an asset, what's a liability, what's an option, what's a call, what's a point? What? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like they know these things, dude, and subconsciously this is all they hear all day.

Well, and think about that. If that's the norm, right? The norm is dad's talking about numbers that he's trying to reach for the month. Norm is talking about margin, talking about marketing, talking about building, you know, YouTube subscribers, talking about creating content. Talk, like talking about dividends, talking about create like all these things. Like it's, it's wild. But that is the normal dialogue that is been replaced from money don't grow on trees, strikes in the coal mine, not being able to pay payments, you know, going from job to job, like just, just that mentality of like really trying to like doing everything in your power. It's always talking about my parents, like they worked really hard. It's just, they just, they were just trying to survive, man. And you know, that, that right there, like I'm, I wouldn't change it because I'd never be me if I didn't witness that and experience that kind of like pain of what that feels like. And I just, I never wanted that feeling, mark.

No, dude, 100%, I just never wanted it. I get goosebumps even hearing it because I literally feel like I'm that 7 year old boy in that room. Listen to my parents fight about it.

Yeah, because that's the thing, that's, you know, that's the thing most people fight about is financial hardship. And you know, my old man had a little bit of a lottery problem too, which is another broke way of thinking. So like there's all those things that kind of shaped me. That's why I don't really gamble a lot because shit, I'd rather buy stuff, man. If I'm gonna, if I'm gonna spend the money, I'm gonna get something back for it and, and I'm not gonna leave my stuff the chance. I mean, you know, I'm willing to work and, and put in the time and you know, I Have a lot of gratitude, Mark, for what's happened to me and what I've experienced and what I can teach. And you know, I've often asked my myself like is enough, when is enough? Is it a number, is it a lifestyle? Is it. That's really something that's been kind of interesting for me most recently because. And as I've actually I would say let off the numbers gas meaning like not even like ultra concerned with it. You know, it opens up even more. Which is, which is interesting. Right. Because I like to be analytical to some degree. But when it comes to being creative and content and putting stuff together, like the stuff has just been heading my direction because of how in it I've been from that standpoint, from a value. So it's, it's wild how that works.

Yeah. I mean sometimes there's no direct correlation to like action versus revenue immediately. For example, your dumbbell shred. Like that wasn't like a huge thing when you created it. Now it's ginormic. That's what's going to be a whole another level.

Oh, it's that it's absolutely. Because it's not like people are going to run back to the gyms tomorrow.

No. If they're even open and I've had.

Yeah. And they're not currently including mine. And people have hit me up like, yo, I think about the save on my gym membership like you're you. And this is what I knew would happen. I needed people at a certain number of level that were on the fence, I call them to give me a chance. This gave them a reason to give me a chance. And now they're like, yo, I'm getting a better work out of my front room with these 20 pound dumbbells than I was at the gym anyway. Why the am I going back? So this will, this will change the gym home gym culture I think a lot for a while which you know, lends to my skill set. So, you know, I feel blessed about that to have that opportunity.

Yeah. And real quick, two things. The borrow belief thing, my boy Jonathan's one that introduced me a concept which is a huge thing.

Makes so much sense.

It's powerful. Right. It's a very powerful thing because I never, I'm not that smart to think of those things like my on my own. I just want to be clear.

I'm stealing that though.

I like it. And then second thing, like a lot of people might hear us talk about our parents and this and that. Just to be clear, guys, we're not knocking Our parents, actually. We're grateful for a parent. Like, I love my mom and dad. I think they've given me so many. They still give me so much love, amazing gifts. And if I didn't have that, I would not be here. I wouldn't even be a tenth of the person I am today.

Dude. I tell my mom, don't ever trip on that when I'm telling these stories. Like, you should never feel like less than. What you should understand is that I watched you do everything in your power to keep the. The ship floating. It's my job now to make some shit different. Like, don't even stress all that. Like, to me, that's not even a negative thing. It's. It was a. A developer for myself to be this person I was meant to be.

Yeah. But where I'm going with that, too, G, is like, at the end of the day, a lot of people use their past as an excuse of not to succeed.

Oh. Like, we could have went either way, Mark. Both of us.

Yeah. So it's like, we see it as an opportunity to develop and grow. They see it as, like, no way that's going to happen. Like, I can't do that. My mom and dad yelled at me or I got beat up. Like, whatever. They're using the past is the reason why they can't move forward. Like, you got to get to a point when you're an adult, you're like, enough's enough, dude. Because the truth is, if you use that as an excuse, they're still winning. I want to.

Oh, you know, like, you got to.

Push forward and change.

That's part of that blueprint that I talked about. Like, that's your blueprint of growing up. All the dialogue you heard, the actions you watched. But that doesn't have to be you. That's. That was their choice. That's not your choice. And I think when people start to understand that, like, you can take a whole. I think people just have this hard time in the belief factor or the confidence. And I think that's where I'm trying to preach is, like, you have to work on the confidence building every day, whether it's body or mind. So then when you start to see those spots or feel that, like, vibe that you want to, like, really go do something, then you do have that con. Not everyone, just most people are not born with confidence. I was not born with confidence. I started building confidence when I saw the first muscle pop out.

Yeah.

And then when. You know what I mean? And then when I started having, like, A little bit of success in certain things. And it's like that builds and builds and builds. And I still develop it every day because. And that's what had a lot of people ask me, like, why are you so confident in all the things you're doing? I'm like, well, first off, I'm like a vet. I've been doing this 20 years. So I've been working on myself and my craft for this long. So I better be confident at this point. I'm like Vince Carter out here, you know what I'm saying? Like, about to be 42 years old. So like, I think at the end of the day I'm intentionally. See, that's the word. I'm intentionally trying to build my confidence every day. If in my understanding that's why it comes off this way. Because it ain't fake, it's real. Because I worked on it 100.

I think the biggest thing about confidence is what people are trying to. What you guys got to realize. Corey and I are not looking for confidence from outside in. We're looking from inside out. If we work on ourself when we wait, we say we're get up at three, we get up at three. When we say we're going to eat right, we eat right, we work out. By the way, I'm talking about Corey because I'm not eating right now. Corey G is. But like all these things. Like again, the truth is, if anything, I have a confidence issue. I try to overconfident myself to ultimately. So when I do step in, I know I got my game on lockdown. Like there's nothing that person could say to me. I'm like over. I'm overconfident. So when he comes at me or she comes at me, I'm like, nope, I got this. Like they can't, they can't get me, you know, so it's like, because just like you're doing, we're talking about compounding our efforts, compounding our confidence, compounding our development. It all starts with us. Everyone's seeking it. That's why they're wearing the belt. G, you and I could work roll up in mesh shorts, torn up T shirt and kango and pull up in the roll smoking cigars and we don't care.

I do that most of the time. I won't smoke my. I won't smoke in mine though. Are you crazy?

It's coming, it's coming. But no, I think like, what people understand, like, dude, we're not trying to impress anybody. I'm just Trying to impress myself with my kids. That's.

So I look at material items, like, quite a bit different. A lot of people and maybe I thought about these things. I'm in that trailer, I thought, man, I get me a Rolls and a Rolly and all these things. All the things I'm watching on MTV Raps that one day, like, that fulfills you. What I use material items as, you know, one, it's good to have a goal, I think, for things that you're into. Like, you know, I grew up. My dad was a major car guy. Like, he had, like, all the GTOs, and a lot of the coal miners made good money, so they drove nice cars when they were at least working. And so, like, I kind of grew up in that, like, that type of culture. And even though I wasn't a monkey wrench, I don't really work on stuff. But I was like, I would always hear that type of dialogue of cars and motors and things, right? But I liked more the luxury rap star type of shit. And so I always thought, like, if I ever can achieve things like this, that really is two things. One, that I was able to buy a liability and not ever really think about it, because I wouldn't overstretch myself to get it. Two, that it would remind me of the way I need to operate. See, that's something different. Like, I expect a certain level of operation of the way that I am, whether it's content creation, whether it's a schedule, whether it's the discipline. And I really shouldn't be driving that car or wearing that watch or these things that I aspired to have. If I don't continue that level of expectation. See, mine's not, yo, I made it. I'm here. Come look at me. Mine's like, this is how I operate. Yeah, I drive this to the grocery store to get a thing of milk because that's my car now. You see what I'm saying? Like, everybody always trips out, like, dude, how many miles you got on that thing? I always see you driving it. I didn't buy it to leave it in the garage.

Exactly.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it was one of those things where, for me, it was just reconfirming that this is how I need to keep my level of discipline if I want to continue to operate and be. And be like this. And that's what I've always wanted for myself. So I don't know. I look at material items, like, as rewards, but as reminders of how you should be operating at A certain level. Not now you're there. Let's fall off.

Yeah. I mean do. I'm right there with you. The truth is, what people don't realize is by the time we get the cars, we could have bought that car 100 times over.

Oh, yeah.

Like, the watch, like, you know, you. You know, I talk about a thought auditing. You do this. I know you do not call it that, but, like, the thought of, like, I want the watch. Oh, shit. It costs a lot of money, but the journey to get to it, the journey, it's. It's like, you did that video. It's a story. When I look at my watch, dude, it has nothing to do. I don't care if you know about it. I don't, like. I don't talk shit about, like, it's my watch, it's my store, like, everything. It took me so many years to get to this. Yeah, bro. You see it as a watch. I see it as a timepiece. I see it as a. Like an accomplishment. I see it so much more.

I see it as my grandkid probably wear it one day.

Exactly. Yeah.

Hopefully they don't. They don't pawn it. You know what I'm saying? But that's the way I look at it, too. Like, I wanted to create this legacy of, you know, of something great in. In my story, in my head of wealth building that was. My kids end up with presidentials from their old man one day, that maybe then their kids end up with presidentials from the old man one day. And, like, that. That is, like, their expectation now. It's a material item they didn't work for, but I wanted to represent hard work for our family that somebody that changed things. And so, like, will it motivate them at a level. I don't know, but I hope. I hope with the amount of content and dialogue and stories I've been telling that they'll understand what it means, because there'll be someday that maybe my grandkid will get this watch right here and be able to watch that video that you just spoke about and be like, all right. He had. He had a purpose for all this stuff. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Grandpa could buy it. He bought it, and he has, like you said, a purpose behind it, and he could put a story to the whole product. Like, he could wear it proudly knowing that, you know, he's supporting your vision, and then now he's giving. Dude, it's mult. It's so deep, you know, And I think people like the cars, like the truth is when I bought the car, I'm like, oh, okay, cool. What's next? Like, it's not like, you know, I gotta get another goal, I gotta get a bigger goal. I gotta, I gotta focus that, you know. Evans, you gotta step your game up, you know.

Yeah. There's one thing I was talking to somebody about stuff like this one time in there and they, they pulled it all the way down. They're like, it's just a car, just a watch, it's just whatever. And, and I agree. And it feels like that after a while. I think that people think it's going to do something for you more than it does, but that's because they never reached it. So I understand that it's. Oh, it's easy for you guys to say because you got these things right, but you really uncover you along the process to those things. And if in fact things or the way like the biggest thing I've aspired to is the way that my life operates has nothing to do with the material items in it. It's the freedom. That's the actual thing that everyone's searching for. And then hopefully that generational change that we're, that we're pushing for, the stuff that comes along with it is just luxury items to remind you, you know, hey, I didn't have this once, I do now, but if I want to keep it, I better keep my together.

Well, it just shows you what we're capable of. Again, it's like, okay, this watch now, you know, once you discover the watch and you're like, you pay 20 GS for a watch, you're like, there's watches that go for 2 million. Oh yeah, there's levels, it's literally endless. But it's all imagination, expansion, like. And just because I buy a watch doesn't mean I have to take away from something. I actually, what I think people don't realize because, you know, I've been approached when I'm in the roles, they're like, yo, you know how many families you could feed with that? And blah, blah, blah. I'm like, what are you talking. I found a lot of families. There's a lot of people work at the Rolls Royce deal community and all that. So but. And then they get in a brand new Toyota Corolla and I'm thinking like, dude, if you're worried about that, why aren't you riding a bike? Why aren't you walking? Everyone, it's a game you can't play because you're assuming I buy a 300,000car. It takes away from everything else I'm doing, I think. And I believe this because I've experienced it. When I buy it, it actually grows everything I'm doing.

Yeah, there's a level, there's a level of prosperity beliefs that just a lot of, A lot of people ain't hip to. Mark. And I try to, I. Abundance. Yeah, I try to, I try to kind of stay out of those talks, man, as much as possible. It's. But you, but you are asking for them when you're riding around, you know, like that. But it's, but my thing is, I always, like, I always like to tell right out the gate, yo, no one gave me this. Yeah. So, you know, I mean, like, I don't feel bad for taking risks and being so stressed. My head would hurt for a week straight and almost losing everything multiple times. And I, you know, having to stand back up after major things happen. And no, man, I don't feel bad. One of my friends told me a long time ago, he said, never feel bad for making money, G. Don't ever feel bad for making money. Especially if you aspired for this. You put in the skills, you put in time. You know, luck ain't really a thing. That's when the preparation, you know, meets that.

Why?

Why feel bad?

Yeah, dude, I, I actually, I use. I, I don't feel bad at all either. I'm the same way, man. I, I, I've never apologized about getting wealthy, and I'm getting wealthier. Like, I want to make. I want to be so stupid rich, like, wealthy. You know what I mean? Not for the money, but for what I can do and what I can do with it and love with everything else.

Oh, yeah, there's nothing like, you know, there's been some local families that I couldn't even, you know, I couldn't even get a tax deduction from because I gave, you know, families that, like, you know, parents got in a car wreck and one of them's got cancer and they can't pay their, you know, their mortgage for three months or something. Like, I've had social workers come to me and rage that know us, and I've helped a lot of families out that I'll never meet, bro. I bought Christmases for their whole, you know, whole family stuff like that. But it's, it's really not. It's. That really doesn't have anything to do with it. Right. But when you have the ability to do those things, it feels amazing, and you want to do those things. So, yeah, I always believe that if I had more wealth, I would, I would, you know, do more, even more people.

Right?

But I also am like, I'm not content because I'm always pushing, but also I'm in areas that I never I dreamed of, but I really didn't understand what they were. You know what I mean? So I, I always have like this kind of conflicting kind of view on like, man, is it just, you know, am I just chilling and golfing? Is this, am I good or should I keep pushing like a maniac? Do I know any other way? Because then every time I have that thought, I'm right back in the trenches looking for new opportunities, pushing business. I think it's just my DNA, so.

I don't think it ever gets out of us. I think, yeah, this is the life we've been handed and I think there's no other way. But I, I think we're gonna be like Warren Buffett, 80 something years old, pushing every day, reading books, you know, hopefully lunging and learning every day.

Yeah, I think it's, I think that's what it is.

Yeah, Like I, I think we've been, I think the world's been sold this thing. Hey, retirement looks like the golf and playing, dude, we might do that for like two days and be bored with it and like real quick.

Well, I can see because like, even during this time most people are working less. I would probably argue I've worked more, you know what I mean? And, and that, you know, really. Because some businesses are closed down right now because I own five or six businesses, some are doing really well. But my thought was, man, I gotta double down on the stuff that's working, plus the, you know, make sure the other ones that can't provide as much as they had in the past that, you know, there might be some lopsided kind of numbers for a little bit. But yeah, I don't know. I went in a whole nother gear gladly to because I really felt like the overwhelming support that was coming back, like, yo, I really need help with what I got going on. This is the only thing I have. Access, equipment. Like, I just knew people really needed help and they would value somebody that was giving them something not giving them. They're paying for it, but it's, but it's such a inexpensive, you know, fee for what they're getting back.

So, dude, if you're not willing to spend 8.99 on yourself a month for better life, like, I can help.

Yeah, but a lot of people don't you know what I realized a long time ago, Mark, was the amount of people that do personal development though, whether it's or they invest in whether it's mind or body is, is actually it's maybe increasing a little bit. But when we started in this game, it was low, bro. Like people didn't read about, you know, developing themselves. When I would talk about personal development, people look at me like twisted up like, what are you talking about? I'm like self education. Like, you know, and especially from a guy that never read any books in high school. So I don't know. It's. It's weird how now I think there's just so many more resources. People maybe even do it on accident sometimes, but I don't know. I think we're, we're at a unique phase of the game because a lot of things just got weeded out with this problem. And the people that were sources of inspiration during this time, I think we'll continue to grow their businesses and you know, I think it was actually an interesting opportunity for guys like us.

So Corey, like what is like some good tips? We got a lot of people here, like tips on like for business or health and wealth. Like sit there like, what, what one get over to Corey's website, Coreyg.com and sign up. But I mean, tons of stuff. Anabolic fasting you're huge on, obviously.

Yeah, I think, I think it's like having a strategy, Mark, just like we do for our business, right? Like, people don't have a. People don't have like a body strategy or a physical strategy at all. They just, they're like not prepared. They don't understand it. It's just like anything else. Like when you do a business deal that you're nervous about, it's probably because you're uneducated about it. Like, so if I go to do exactly what you do, I'm going to be super nervous about it because it didn't what I do. Right. I don't under. I don't have a base under. I have a base understanding, but I don't have a real understanding of how you make each dollar. Right. And you probably do for me, but you probably, probably don't really know unless you come and rode with me. Right. And so you could smoke in my car, I guess, if you came and rode with me. But so it's one of those things where I think it's same with the body. What I try to do a really good job of is teach my approach and strategy and it's life It's I like to eat wings on Friday and still drink beer. I like to do. I'm a normal dude, right? And so that just happens to be in really good shape because I figured out a better strategy. And so what I've really done is over videos, not just some printout, really taught that strategy so people have a better understanding of it. So when they're done dealing with me, which sometimes they never are, it's just like Netflix, they keep the membership, but, you know, at the end of the day, like, I'm evolving and teaching and they are continuing to grow and then it's not so scary. Oh, I know if I eat this at night for the next seven nights, that's not going to contribute to my goals. Like, when you understand and then you're choosing those things, that's wholly different than not really having the education based around it. And I really think people just don't have base educations on what's actually healthy or not because they're listening to what maybe the government or TVs saying, oh, this is healthy. This is what. And you're like, this should this. That's, you know, it just. I think that's the biggest thing is being more educated about the process, which is what I do, and having a quality strategy to actually achieve the results. So I think that's one. I think having daily habits that, you know, you can subtract and add from that lead to success. Like, people ask me why I'm so dedicated to my, like, morning routine, and I'm like, well, check this out. I've only grown. I've only grown my entire life. I've. I've progressed in business, in life, in uncovering things about myself and in new environment. Like, so why would I then stop the process? I know that does all that. So, like, I know what the. I know what the yield is. So I'm going to. I'm going to continue to be dedicated to it. If not, I'm going to even be more dedicated, require more time, add more things, subtract. Like, I'm constantly working that process to get it to where, like, I know it's lights out. I think that's why those are, those are two main keys, is be more educated about those subjects so you don't feel so, like, weird about them. And to, like, have a real good morning routine that, you know, adds value to your life.

It just sets the day, man. And keep score. Like, I make it a game, man. I'm keeping score. If I get up late, I'm like, ugh, it's not good. And I always feel behind the eight ball that day. Isn't that weird feel? You know, you start, you're anxious, you're like. Even if it's 30 minutes off, like you just feel like you just lost 30 minutes of your life, you know?

I feel, I feel that, man. Like on the weekends I try to sleep in. I get up at like 7 and man, I just feel like it hits noon and I'm like, damn, I didn't even do anything yet. I'm normal. I'm normally like looking at. All right, if the afternoon's light, I'm about to chill it out a little bit or you know, do something really fun with the kids or whatever. So I get a heavy amount of stuff done early. But yeah, I don't know, man. Like, I just, I'm super dedicated. I'm a. I'm a weird kind of solo discipline type of cat. So I can operate my. It's. It's crazy because I look at some of the things I disliked about my father that I have traits of, you know, I think we all do that with our parents. And my dad was like a solo operator, kind of a quiet dude. Really operate a lot on his own. He was a truck driver and a coal miner, so he's a lot by himself a lot. So I require 1000% in amount of time with my own thoughts now. He wasn't studying. I don't know what the hell he was doing. But, but there's a. There's these time I'm using a genetic pass down thing that could be a negative. And sometimes I have to fight because with family and things like that, like I can see the genetic patterns that I'm trying to not make happen again. Where, you know, you'd be like, yo, trying to like get your dad to do something. He's like trying to be by himself. So. But I'm getting what I need and then I'm using it for a positive thing in the mornings to grow everything. And so I know that about myself. Even though I'm extremely outgoing, I'm on social media all the time. I don't mind speaking on camera, all those things. But I. If I don't get that time in the morning, which I've used in a positive manner, then I'm, you know, I'm a little off, man. And I just know that about myself. So I think that awareness is huge.

I'm the same way, man. Thought auditing in the morning, sitting there and like journaling, thinking, growing Expanding, finding out where you're vulnerable, where the opportunities are, what your strengths are. All this stuff. The more you do this, the more aware again. It's like you realize to me, it's strength. It gives you strength, knowing your weaknesses, like being cool. Man, I suck at this. I'm good with that. Back in the day, when I was broke, man, I thought I was good at everything. Now I'm like, yo, I suck at this. I'm good about 2% of stuff. Everything else I need to outsource and hand off or hire someone or need help.

Man, I talk, talk about that stuff all the time. Like, I try to put people around me that are really good at the stuff I suck at because I'm not going to get exponentially better at those things. It's just what it is. I don't know why people have such a hard time telling people when the things they're not good at, dude.

Because we used to. I talk about this in Magician versus Mule. We used to get like, you got in trouble if you asked for help in high school. It's called cheating. I was asking, yo, what's the answer to C? That's cheating. I thought it was collaboration. I didn't know the difference. You know, now I'm actually getting praised. But money in the bank account for Donna. But back then, we never been taught it, man. And at work, you know, one of the hardest things in my company in real estate, right? So I'd have to go to the team and say, hey, listen, it's okay if you fail. What do you learn from it is where that's the opportunity. It's okay. Like, how many bosses have told you it's okay to fail? Hey, it's okay to ask for help. Hey, if you need, you need to grow, here, let me hire someone to help you. Let's hire consultants. It's like most people, like you said, they're not doing this. They're not up level and they'll spend money on a lottery ticket, but they won't spend $10 a month on it. Like, on what you're doing, you know, it's.

I think the ego gets in front of like you just saying you need help. Help is an extremely powerful word people are scared to use. And I use it a lot. And so like when, when I ask people for help that are, let's say, at a maybe lower position on the totem pole within the company, or maybe what they think in life, they're like tripped out by them. Like, yo, I'm not good at this, but I see you're good at it. So, like, I already know what I'm good at, right. And I'm trying to continue to double down on that. So, like, it's. I think that's just a mind shift away from an ego where people think that you've got to be great at everything.

Well, I just.

I just knew I wasn't really that good at a lot of stuff, including a. Including math.

Yeah. One plus one equals four, right. But no, I think at the end of the day, guys using help, you know, asking for help, it's a sign of strength to me, not weakness, you know? And again, if you ask the wrong person that's weak as well there, they might try to talk shit to you to make you feel weak. But the truth is that's just. You're talking to the wrong person. Just like you don't share your dreams with everyone because not everyone can see what you see. And they might not. They might not, like, help you unlock it. They might actually talk down to it. And if you don't have that mental fortitude to, like, push past that, you're actually going to get stuck in their box and their dream level. And, gee, you and I, when we first met, we were talking about helicopters and all this, you know, like that. Like, we're just pushing and thinking and talking bigger stuff. Like we're. Everyone's having conversations. The question is, what are you talking about? Who are you talking about it with?

You know, I think we realized real early that we was just on a similar wavelength of, like, aspirations and that, you know, we don't run into a lot of people like this. And that's why we're continued. Why we're still friends, you know, I mean, that's. That's it. It's been all these years, and we've always kept in contact, at least often enough to understand what everybody's got going on. And I remember, Mark, you know, you brought a Phantom, actually to my office one day probably a decade ago, and we're like, yo, G, check this out. Blah, blah, blah. And I was like, man, let me drive that. That I need to feel it. I had never went out and drove it to understand what it felt like. And. And I needed that next level of visualization. And I remember pulling it downtown in the town I live in and being like, yeah, this is me. Like, this is how I operate. This is. This is what I expect. This is. I want this to be an easy decision one day. Oh, yeah, let me go and get that. Let go and pull that off the showroom. Like I wanted that feeling, you know, because straight up, like my parents had problems getting financing for a house that cost half as much as that car did, you know. And that's just the truth of it. And so there's some vindication in that type of work to achieve something like that. But then once again that expectation of like I remember thinking to myself like, yep, this is, this is how, this is how I'm about to operate one day.

That's awesome, man. No, I was, I remember, remember that. Yeah, we went to your office and everything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, and then we drove it around. I was like, I went with the ghost though, because the fan, I'm a little big. But you never know, I might go to that one day. But at the end of the day it was more about that understanding of how I, you know, whether I was wearing mesh shorts or not, how I wanted to feel on a day to day basis. And expectation.

Well again what you see in that is it's just the operator like, you know, I'm capable of this. If I can do it, I can achieve it. This guy, can that guy, whatever. Like this is who I am. And again, this could be a Prius.

If that's what you're into, it doesn't matter. Yeah.

Judging the car, it's just where do you want to be? Where do you operate? You know, the levels on levels. So gee, like people can see you at max out. By the way, I got your 100 milligram of CBD. I've never taken that stuff. I got thousand, I got the cream and I got the flavor.

Hell yeah, my dude. I love it. Yeah.

Excited to try it. I've never done anything like that. Good stuff.

Oh my gosh. CBD has helped so many people, Mark. You know what's so crazy is, you know, I've been in health and wellness and supplements for a long time. This was the first time that we had an opportunity to create something and be involved in something that helped with a lot of anxiety. I mean I use it mostly for the anti inflammatory properties. Like I take it before bed. Helps me with a deeper sleep and I wake up feeling good. But a lot of people use it for anxiety and that was the first time I had had something that would help people like that. And the over amount of like kind of messages we got for people like giving it to their family that were supplement, you know, buyers for the, the normal supplement line. It's been wild. And seeing, let's call it the Bodybuilder then transition into CBD because of the sleep quality, recovery quality and. And anti inflammatory. It's. It's been a really cool all the way to my, My mom using the cream on her foot because she had broken her foot and had some inflammation there. My grandma using it on her hands. Like it's. It really opened up the demo. Yeah. Really big. It's kind of wild.

That is wild. So is that. Did I get a good flavor? Strawberry should. I got.

Oh yeah, all the flavors taste good.

I was thinking about sour one.

Yeah, sour gummy's good. I don't let. So the one thing that I learned from the previous business because it was so big that things sometimes got out the door a little too quick, meaning like they should have been, you know, not tested longer, but the flavor testing longer. And so one thing I'm not willing to do is nothing goes out the door unless it's a unanimous across the board with the co ownership of, you know, me and John saying, yo, this is 100. We would take this. We're into it. Like everything tastes good. Now some people might not like watermelon in general, so they might not like the watermelon flavor. But if you like a certain flavor flavor of something like, you know, just normally you're gonna love any of the flavors that we put out, I believe.

I mean, you've always came out with great products, man. That's never been a thing. So.

No, because I, I'm a, I'm a consumer, man. Like nothing's changed. I'm still a gym guy consumer. I'm making stuff that I know I would take or I would want my clients to take. And you know, that's what so really like across the platforms we have maxevermuscle.com which is the overall supplement brand. I've got John Fosco. John Fosco, myself and Jason Newland have CBD social, which is actually a retail location down on King street in Charleston. So CBD social.com and we do just CBD products. So they've got dog treats and all kinds of stuff down there, which is awesome, including some high powered oils. And then corgifitness.com, which is all the, you know, training and diet and motivation. And then we have business and biceps podcast which a lot of people listen into each week. And you might not know this mark, but I'm pretty proud of this. On itunes Charts all time entrepreneurship or number nine all time. So every entrepreneurship podcast that has ever been on itunes, business and biceps is ranked Ninth overall. And so I'm pretty proud of that, man. Like there's some heavy hitters in that category. Tim Ferriss and Gary V, Barbara Corcoran and you got low old business and biceps right there. Round out the top 10. But we've been on this grind for like five years, man, and we really, we really enjoy it so.

Well, you're putting in the work, man. It's showing. It's. It's amazing to have you here, buddy. I didn't know your boy was. I didn't know he's from Charleston, so.

So he originally spent time there as a kid. He grew up in, in Chicago, but he lives in Charleston and loves it.

Yeah, no, it's an amazing. I used to live out there, you know.

It's cool. No, it's real cool. No, I've been. And we're right in the heart of it, man. Right in King street where it's popping. Well, not right now, but where it will be again.

Well, I'm excited to have you, G. I don't want to take up your time. I know you got stuff going on, you got the world to conquer, but man, I appreciate you guys. Check out Corey G dot com. Corey, what is it?

Corey G fitness dot com Corey G fitness dot com.

Thank you Mark Sephard Mod. So get, get the products guys. He's always got deals going down. Follow him over at Corey G on IG and all that stuff. G. By the way, before I go, that last video you did when someone asked you about like you, you went bananas on it. I loved it. The Flamethrower, I love that because I don't think people, like people don't realize that's how we function internally.

I know and I'm try. Mark, I'll tell you this. I'm trying to do a better job because I'm. I'm a reserved kind of low key cat except for in the weight room, right. So I showcase. Like you see me come out of a 500 pound squat and I'm going crazy. Like that's me in my own environment acting how I want to act, right. I'm trying to do a better job for people to understand what the real fire is in here. And I let it out every now and again. And yeah, it always gets shared like crazy. And I get tons of feedback because I want people to understand the intensity that's really in here. And even my own wife sometimes would be like, man, that dude's kind of scary. I'm like, but that's how we got here. Like that's what I don't think people really get. And I'm trying to do a better job of showing that so people understand that's really what it takes.

No, I'm the same way, man. I'm kind of like, yeah, it's cool. Like, you know, people see this kind of stuff, but, dude, when we're off, we're like, what the. Let's go, let's go. And we're. By the way, we're doing that to ourself.

No, it's all to ourselves.

You remember this, I think, but, like, when I went to the thing, the gym, and, like, I was. I didn't have my shoes with me. You're like, what size are you? Took your shoes off and throw them at me. Like, get on the treadmill. I'm like, okay, like, that's what you want, man.

How's that Life.

You do that to herself, Guys, like, like, I think people think is success is just like, super vanilla, dude. You're. You're working, you're pushing, you're pro. You're gonna punch in the face. How quick can you get up? Like, it. It doesn't end, so. But yeah, I love that kind of fire. The flamethrower. Like, I was watching. I watched it like 10 times. Like, this is. This is what I'm talking about. This is who we are. If you don't think this is what real life is like in our world, you're. You're lying to yourself. You don't know.

So I'm telling you, that's exactly what it feels like every day, Mark. So I'm glad you saw it.

Thank you for being here, buddy. I appreciate it. Guys, follow G. Follow Corey over at 4G Fitness. Check him out. You guys need that? Hit us up.

Appreciate it, homie.

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