EP 93: Last Show of 2021! Where to Next and Q&A from the DM Community

Welcome to the making of a DM. My last show of the year, 2021. More importantly, today I'm gonna do a rapid fire round of Q and A. I hope you're ready for this because it's going to be epic. So with that said, let's get started.

There ain't no question. Mark Evans, when he stepping it down, he's closing deals. Time to tell him what the DM stand for. I'm a deal maker. A deal maker. But I'm not just a deal maker. I'm a dream maker.

Hey there, it's your boy, Mark Evans. D m coming to you from Kirtland Hills, Ohio, near Cleveland, Ohio, out here in the treehouse, a little bit of snow on the ground as I'm recording this. This will be my last podcast show from Ohio of the year. I'll be leaving in about 48 hours, hopping on the jet, rolling down to Parkland, Florida for the next six and a half months or so. And I'm excited, I'm excited to get down there. I was hoping to have a lot more snow than we had this year before Christmas and during Christmas, but hope you guys absolutely had an amazing Christmas. Had the family over, did some cool stuff, kids got some toys, I got some neat things, my wife got some neat things. And truth is, I don't really need anything. And I don't know about you guys, but in all seriousness, I just hate wasting like, you know, our kids have everything they ever wanted and need and beyond in multiple houses, right? They have toys here in Ohio, toys in Florida, and it's just almost becomes wasteful. And so I teach the kids about, you know, give 10 gifts away, give 10 toys away to get one and just explain to them why it's so important not to just have a bunch of stuff because you can. But to us, you know, it's cool to have stuff, but just understand one how you got it and appreciate it and earn it, you know what I mean? So teaching the kids is a never ending thing. Truth is, I'm still learning, you know, and everyone here listening. That's why you're here. You're learning as well. So as I'm sitting here, I just want to say thank you guys so much. I had so many people reach out to me over the last couple days during the holidays and just say, merry Christmas, you made a huge impact in my life. Here's what you've done for me. And some people sent some really neat gifts as well. One guy, Chris, he sent me a really cool custom painting of Me on stage at the Lion's Not Sheep event I did earlier this year. Really neat with a cool message. Haters aren't creators, which is the truth. But it was a really neat piece, very thoughtful. Another guy sent me a dm. What is that? Doormat for the treehouse here. Customize. And this is a cool story. Like the guy actually loaned money to. I do day funding. I have a company that does a lot of day funding and real estate deals and such. And we day funded this guy's deal. His name is John. And I've never talked to him, never met him in person, but, you know, my team has talked to him and we funded a deal and he paid us a decent amount of money. We did the deal, we made money and everyone's happy. And he did a very smart thing. He sent a cool gift after the fact. He follows me, pays attention, and it's a great gift, very useful, very thoughtful. It doesn't have to be expensive gifts, by the way, to be thoughtful. I don't even know what a customized doormat costs, but let's say $100 or so. But he got my attention and it's very appreciative. And those are people I want to always invest more in and with. So that's really cool. Got some golf stuff and things like that. Even though I don't golf much, but I do have it and I will, I will put it to use when I am golfing. Cigars, cards, you know, emails, videos, those always go well. But. And then also a lot of people said, hey man, you know, I got to indulge in your show over the holidays and it really made a massive impact in my life. And I just left you amazing five star review. That's the best thing you could do for me, honestly. And for the people who want to listen and learn about this show is just leave a five star review on Spotify, itunes or wherever you listen to the show at. Take a minute or two out of your life and, you know, pay it forward. It's a good way to, you know, pay it back. And, you know, you never know. You're very important to this world. And that message could be seen by many and it could just be seen shit, even if it's seen by one and it changes their life. You had a part in that and that's very powerful. And I think that's what some people forget is in life, it's not about the huge things. It's all about all these little things that oftentimes don't feel like it means dick but it means a lot. You know what I mean? Waking up early a lot. You know, going to the gym means a lot. You know, saying thank you and hello and you know, being proper, standing up, shaking hands, looking people like all these little things that you don't think mean anything. They mean absolutely pretty much everything and it's pretty cool. So if you have a chance, leave a five star review. I'd appreciate it. Let me know. I always like to hear it. As well as me Economy and Magician versus Mule. A lot of people are reading the book Over 75 Hard by Andy Frisella. It's a great mental challenge. 75 days you can get over 75 hard and check it out and see exactly what it is. I've done it several times, couple times actually successfully. It's very intense in a good way. It's not even intense, it's just very clear, structured for guys like me where you know, I can pretty much wake up and do what I want one I want. It really gives me a very clear path daily of, of execution mode. So it's a very powerful thing. Check it out. 75 hard. A lot of people are reading that book Magician vs. Mule and Me economy in that. So it's kind of cool to see me being tagged with all those guys. Very honored and excited to and hear your guys results. So as I'm sitting here, like I said, looking overlooking the ravine, checking out a couple deer running around and some squirrels and all that fun stuff, I asked the question a couple weeks ago. Hey guys, Q and A. If you could sit down with me for 30 minutes, what question would you ask? And very interesting. And again I want to be transparent with you guys. Out of hundreds and hundreds of questions I got asked, to be honest with you, the truth is most people suck at trying to figure out how to ask a question. It's true, most people suck at asking questions. And until you get better at asking questions, you're going to continue to get shitty answers in your life. And this is why most people don't have results. They're asking themselves the wrong questions. They're asking themselves shitty questions. They're not in the game of what they really think they are. They're talking about it, but they're not really asking the questions to get what the real outcome they're seeking. So I just want to share some Q and A's today with you. And I'm just going to fire. I literally had my, you know, my assistant print them off. They're sitting here in front of Me. And I'm just going to go through some. I have not looked at them yet. I did look at them two weeks ago when they're coming through and I'm like, oh, my God. Some of these are so. Most of these are shitty questions. But this stuff's important to me and I just kind of want to like today's. It's going to be you and I talking, right? You're sitting across the desk from me for a half hour and I'm just going to fireball or fire around, go back and forth. I might answer five questions or 20 questions. I don't know. I'm just going to answer and go down the line. So pull up a seat. It should be good. And before I get too excited here again, 2021 was my biggest financial gain year ever. And also my biggest. What I'm most proud of is my biggest giving year ever. We gave away more money. Not in direct correlation with growth. I actually kind of committed to giving before I was growing anything but it. I'm very, very honored, very excited to do that. And I'm doing. I'm putting it even harder in 2022. I want to give away double of what I gave this year. And it's scary. Like, literally, as I say it, I'm like swallowing really hard about the gag because it's a lot, a lot of money, millions and of what I want to give in 2022. So it makes me feel weird. I'm saying this out loud. One for public commitment. I don't need that. But I kind of like to share it with you guys, kind of let you know where my head's at. Because I truly do believe the biggest givers are the biggest getters. And I'm not talking about just the people. It's giving their time. You have to save yourself before you save the world, number one. So I'm not taking food off my table to give to someone else necessarily. And I've seen a lot of great people do that. Actually. I grew up like that. My mom and dad would give their shirt off their back, but into, you know, to the problem of they create other people's problem, became their problem financially. And some people can take advantage of that. But, you know, I always worked really hard to kind of find my path. It's different for everybody, but I got to take care of me. You know, I'm taking care of me. Where I'm at today and more importantly, where I see the biggest miss is a lot of people are taking out where they're at. Today, but, but not thinking about the future right now. Today I'm healthy. Tomorrow could be a different story. So I am definitely thinking about the future. Another quick thing share here and everyone listening to my voice should get over to Facebook or Instagram asap. Seriously, I talk about saving some money on taxes. If you're an entrepreneur, which most people listening to the show is if you're an entrepreneur, a way to pay your children $12,550. Not tax advice, not financial advice, but something I'd recommend checking out is paying them. It's a tax free play to be able to reduce your earned income. Move it over to them and give them a head start on some cool stuff. And I break it down. I give you how we buy stuff with my kids, IRAs and all that good stuff, 100% free. Just put your name and email in there and you'll get the reports. So check it out, you'll see it over there. How to get free money before the end of the year. Do it sooner than later. So let's get to it. So this, like I said, it's just going to be a Q and A session. Dan, ask what's the most important business and personal lessons you have learned? Well, business and personal to me, again, a lot of people may not, may understand this or may not. I don't have a difference. My personal business life is the same. I'm very, you know, do the right thing even when it sucks. If you say you're going to do it, do it. That's very important. And personal and business. So these are two main things that are very important to me. There's a lot of business lessons, you know, like hiring people. I wish I'd have known. What I'm sharing with you now, 10 years ago, actually 15 years ago, is hire better people than you. Hire people that can make you better. Hire people that want to drive you harder. Pay people real money. And when I say real money, oftentimes they're getting paid more than me in the beginning of the business if I started it. So it's something most people don't understand. I didn't understand it until I actually did it and executed it. But what's cool about it is when everyone around you making real money and I'm talking, you know, six, seven, eight figures a year, they want to help you make more money too because that's what keeps the machine rolling. So a lot of lessons there. Hey, I'd like to thank you for the information you share and for the inspiration you manifest. Thank you Yearly. Don, describe one or two of your most recent turning points in your thinking mindset. I don't really think about that kind of stuff. I'm very. Gratitude, number one, will always change your life. If you're very gratitude driven, you're going to see amazing things in front of you at all times. I do see the world in a positive manner. I write about this in me economy, but I focus on me. I genuinely do. I'm very conscious that I don't know everything. I'm very conscious that I'm wrong often. I'm very conscious that I need help around me all the time. My hardest part is asking for help. Sometimes I think I just. It's my old school mentality kicks in. It's like, hunker down and just do the job. Nothing wrong with that. But it also constrains my growth. So, you know, don't get these ideas in your head that you can do it all on your own. I mean, there's only one of you. So I was probably the biggest thing, but I don't really know turning points. You know, this is something that I learned a long time ago. Turn off the fucking news. I learned that 15, 16, 17 years ago, maybe longer, me and my wife's been together 16 plus years and I haven't watched news way before her. So, you know, I saw my grandmother go to bed with the news on and wake up with the news on and sleep with the news on and it will fucking wreck havoc on your brain. It is a massive manipulation at the highest level. I've always known that as a kid. One thing I heard back in the day, it's like, hey, listen, if you don't turn on the news and for another year, you're going to turn it on a year from now, and the question, it's going to be the same shit who got killed. Racism, is that full effect this or that? I mean, it's all the same shit. Someone's always dying, someone's always bleeding. If it ain't bleeding, it ain't leading. So shut the news off and focus. Another thing too. Again, I'm sure some other people ask these questions as well. So it might be a little bit of duplication here, but we have to think bigger. So many people are trying to figure out how to make 5 grand a month, 10 grand a month, 20 grand a month, 100 grand a month. And listen, that's awesome. And when you accomplish that, that, you know, you, you look back and you're like, fuck, why didn't I go for a Million a month. See the thing is, is when you're going to make ten grand a month, I'm using as an example, by the way, it's not hard to make ten grand a month doing anything. Like if you have any hustle muscle at all in this day and age, to make ten grand a month is very, very, very, very, very. It's never been easier. Let's just say that as long as you provide value and do work. But picture this, if you're sitting in your brain and you're used to making five grand a month in your business or your job or whatever, the only way you know how to make ten grand a month is work harder, work twice as hard. That's what our brain does to us because it's, it's, it's semi reachable because you can see it. The problem with going from five grand to a hundred grand, your brain wigs out. You don't know how to do anything to, because if you did, you'd already be at 100 grand a month. Right? So what you have to do is you have to start asking yourself better in different questions. See what I mean? So like I said, even a lot of people here, the majority of the people suck at asking questions. Therefore they're retrieving the wrong answers. And the problem is, is you're, you're pissed off because you're like dude, I want to make, I want to make this. But all your actions are X, you'll never get there. So you're, you're, there's a reason you're always frustrated. Feel like you're spending your wills never getting any closer than you are. Actually a lot of times you're going backwards because you're losing time. But to go from five thousand to a hundred thousand a month, your brain has to start thinking differently. You have to start working on different things. You have to start letting go of small things and start focusing on big things. And I see too many people at the five grand a month mark, ten grand a month mark, Mickey Mouse in them ways trying to get the 10 to 11 to 12, the 13 to 14 to 15. Like dude, fuck, you have to take a massive leap. And until you do so you're going to always be stuck in that small minded thinking. By the way, 100 grand a month is not a lot of money. Not so you can't live on that obviously. But in the grand scheme of a business to make 100 grand a month, if my company is not making all my companies pretty much, if they're not making 100 grand a month within the first year or less, maybe way less, depending on the product or service. I'm shutting it down. It's just a waste of your time. 100 grand a month is not hard to accomplish. And pretty much a lot of industries, all industries, if you, if you're looking at it properly. You got to look around. There's people in your industry that are making way more than 100 grand a month. The question is, is are you? And you know, what does that look like? What path are you willing to take? What are you willing to do? So those are some different, not necessarily turning points, but mindset. Another thing I talk about in all my books is called thought auditing. You know, thought auditing's got me really to where I'm at today in my life. You know, it's like, dude, I want to be rich. Okay, cool. Take out a pen and paper and write down, what does rich mean to me? Because to me and you could mean two drastically different things. I want to be wealthy. I don't want to be poor. Well, stop being poor, right? That's what it means to me, by the way, for real, right? I don't focus on being poor. I don't focus on me being broke back in the day. I focus on what I can do and what I've done and where I'm going. You know, if you focus on the negative, you get more negative. You focus on the positive, the positive starts turning up a lot more. You know, a lot of reason, everyone's like, dude, you're just lucky. I'm lucky because I. I have a lot of things I'm not lucky on. You know, it's just, you don't see those. You only see the wins. You don't see the losses. That's why I like to share the losses. I just shared how I lost over 560 something grand recently in a month on one of our companies. And it's not the end of the world. We still, that company still will generate millions of dollars in net revenue this year, but like, at the end of the day, it sucks because that money's not in my pocket. I can manage that money better, but it's part of business, part of life, part of growth. And that company will go on to do massive numbers in 2022 and beyond. So I'm excited to share that journey with you, but we gotta start thinking bigger and thought auditing does that. My question to you is, what is a lot of money per month? Because when I'm sitting here talking nonchalant about 100 grand's nothing. It really is nothing on the grand scheme of things where I come from. Growing up, 18 years old, when I got 18 years old and I bought my first company, you know, 100 grand. I was trying to make 100 grand a year gross in my company, not 100 grand net a year in my company. Different worlds, right? So I got what I wanted and beyond, but I struggled. It was very tough and thinking, you know, thought audience, like, why did I think a hundred grand was a lot of money? The truth is I never knew anybody made over a hundred grand, so I didn't have any point of references. That's what's cool about social media. If you look at social media in a different way that, you know, there are fakers, it is what it is. But there also is a lot of genuine people sharing real shit. I like to be in that category. I share the good, the bad, the ugly, and everything in between. And that's why I share of my big losses, my big wins, my mediocre losses, my mediocre ones. I'm just sharing life with you. Let people. Dude, you're fucking flexing, dude. My life is a massive flex every day. Like you could look outside, looking in and think, all I'm doing is flexing, dude. I'm living. And the truth is I'm not doing shit for where I'm going. I'm just getting started. So it's funny to me, the perspective of one to the other. That's why I don't hold any weight when someone's like, dude, you know you're rich. Well, what does rich mean? Because rich to you and me are probably drastically different. And using social media to look up to people and say, damn, that's what's possible. Making millions of dollars a year is doable. You might be from a small town and just be encouraged or inspired. Maybe you're having a bad day, bad week, bad month, bad year, and you pop on and listen to this show or another video or podcast about someone else that's sharing real with you. And it hit you in the face like a ton of bricks. You're like, dude, if that can do it, why can't I? That's what I'm here for. I know this is real. I live it. It's my life. It's real. So to generate millions of dollars a month, let alone a year, is doable. And I wouldn't tell you it's doable if I wasn't doing it and haven't done it Many times in a row, Multiple, many, many, many, many times now at this point. So. So not to say there's not good, not to say there's not bad in between all that. It's called life. So I hope that gave you a little bit of insight. What was your big turning moment that made you who you are today? Again, Sanad asked that. The truth is, October 8, 2005 was my biggest turning point in my life, in my business, career life. That's when my grandmother passed away. She found out she had stage four cancer and she only had a couple weeks to live. She's like, take my ass home. We put her in the dining room, in the bed. And I'm very emotional, by the way, so I can't talk to her like, grandma, I love you, blah, blah, blah. I actually did a recording, went there, held her hand, and we cried for about 15 minutes listening to an audio I put together for her, letting her know how much she meant to me. And it was one of the most amazing things I got to do in my life because I could tell her goodbye. I could tell her what she meant to me. See, I'm getting emotional now, but. But there's people out there that's never had that opportunity. And if they did have the opportunity, they never took the opportunity. They saw the obstacle, they saw the pain, they saw the suffering. I saw it as a magical moment to go there and let her know if this is the last thing I could ever say to her. That's what I shared with her. So depends what you're trying to do. And how do you see the world. But if you ever get that chance, I've had to, I got to do. I was lucky enough to do it to two people in my life. So very powerful moment in my life, if you can't tell. But it made me realize there's more to life than just working. I was a workhorse, working 16, 18 hours a day, seven days a week. I absolutely loved it because I didn't know any better. And that was a wake up call for me. Like I said, that was October 8, 2005. I had a girlfriend then, now my wife, Dina. She's like, hey, let's take a trip for a month. I about pissed my pants because I was like, that's not possible. And I figured out how to make it possible. I didn't say it's not possible. I said, how do I make it possible again? Change the questions, change the results. It's like, you know, so you see something very expensive, you're Like, I can't afford that. Well, that's a dumbass question, by the way. If you think you can't afford it, you're right, you can. The next question, the real question you ask yourself is, how can I afford that? Because if you ask yourself that question, the brain starts going to work subconsciously and consciously of how to find that opportunity and not the obstacles. There's obstacles in the journey for sure, but if you, you shut it off immediately. I can't afford that. Okay, cool, you're right. Get the fuck out of here. As opposed to like, dude, how can I afford that? What do I need to create to make that mine? Right? This could be a house, could be a car, this could be a trip. This, this could be everything. This, this is still what I do every day of my life. When I'm looking at a jet, looking at a new car, looking at a new house or new property just to kind of buy, to kind of do some stuff with. Like, I don't, I don't say I can't afford that ever, ever. You can afford whatever you want if you're willing to do the right things and do the right work and get the right team and I mean, there's money galore, if you believe in abundance. The problem is it just might not be in your account today. Cool. Let's set a plan and execute the plan and get the results right. So that was the turning point for me when my grandmother passed. Like I said, it made me really realize there's more to life than just hustling. So that's when I became a lifestyle business owner. Truthfully, I can make a lot of money, I can have the life I want, I can do them both. And it's not like, how do I do this or that's how do I do it all. So that was kind of cool. Favorite cigar? I smoke a lot of tobacco spatials. My favorite is the Gordito Dolce 6x60. So if you ever send me a gift, that's what I smoke. I smoke boxes of those or that's my cigar of taste. What is the one thing about business that you know now that you would tell 20 year old Mark to do? First, stop dicking around. No one cares about the name of your llc. No one cares about your website address, no one cares about your specialties phone number. Just get the fucking work, don't you? A lot of people are like, dude, I'm setting up my llc, but I don't know my name. I want to create a logo, but I Can't get started until I get my logo. I got to go to ups. No. Start fucking making money today. Stop procrastinating. And it's a. It's a very real way. I see so many people do it. It's so dumb. I've done it many times. And that's what I tell myself. Stop talking, Start doing. And I'll talk more about that here, maybe in a few. My boy, Jim Kraut Kramer. Amazing guy, by the way. I would ask about how you think about things. Your belief systems, for example. How do you think through your own personal development? How do you think through monetizing your next project? He's asking a lot of questions here. So let me see here. What's he saying here? I can't see everything. What are you working on now that's moving the needle for you? Those types of things. So let's start with question number one. How do you think your own personal development? Well, the truth is, this is kind of something I've never really talked about, but I actually consult myself. I genuine. I don't take all these crazy drugs or anything like that, not say I wouldn't, but I've never done like, you know, like any kind of crazy, weird drug that gets me outside of my body and all that. I know some buddies that have, and, you know, they love that experience. But I actually sit down with myself. I have some quiet time. And if I'm going through something, I'm like, I'm consulting myself. It takes the emotion away. It takes the ego out of the question. And I just tell myself facts, you know, data, not drama. So if I'm working through something, it's like, Mark, what would you tell yourself? Well, if you're a client of yourself, what would you tell yourself? And then I just say it. I don't edit it. I just say it out loud or write it down. And in essence, I'm. I'm. I'm consulting myself. I do this often, actually pretty much daily on shit. If I'm having a bad, you know, bad situation with an employee, a bad situation with private money guys, or trying to raise or give money, or if I'm having a situation where someone's not paying me back, I mean, it's real life. I mean, it's a lot of things every day. So I'm. I'm a professional consultant to myself for sure. So that's what I do on my personal development is like asking where I can get better word of my blind spots. And I listen to people. I don't judge it. I have a lot of empathy for people, but you know, if someone says something, I'm paying attention. Especially if they have weight. You know, if, like, if your buddy came up to you like your best friend's like, yo man, you're packing on some lbs. What's up? I would take that more serious. And if someone's like, dude, you're a fat ass that I've never heard of, it has a dog meme, you know, or like a character meme, you know, whatever. So again, it depends on where the data is coming from. I'm gonna, I'm gonna listen to it all differently. So that's kind of what I do. I don't know if that answers the question. How do you think through monetizing your next project? Well, my first thing I'm always doing is looking at the jockey. If the jockey's top notch products mean, you know, we, we can make a product work no matter what, then I'm gonna dig deeper. Once I'm cool with the jockey, then I'm gonna look at the product. Right. Cause you could have the best product in the world, but a shitty jockey, I'm not doing the day to day work, right. That's not where I shine. That's not my strength. That's actually a big weakness of mine and I'm very clear of that. But if the jockey stop notch, then I can move to second level. Most people do the opposite. They look at the product and I think that's the wrong approach. I think the product is going to be top notch if the jockey's top notch anyways. So if the jockey's not top notch, why am I even considering this? Because if I, if I do consider it and I get excited now I got to bring on a coo. I mean, it's a lot of work, you know what I mean? So products are easy, I believe. Finding great people and great jockeys, if you will. I call them partners, jockeys, it's all the same to me. Not to talk down to it. Just, I don't look at that any different than, you know, like a horse, like you could have the best horse. But if you have a shitty jockey, man, it's not going to the finish line in first place. If you have the best jockey on a shitty horse, he's, I, I'd put my money on him before I would the guy that has a good horse with a shitty jockey. So at the end of the day, that's what I'm looking at. I don't really, in regards to monetizing a project. I'm not focused on the money, obviously. Money is important as a business owner. I'm more focused on what can it do in the future. Where are we at today? What, what do I need it to do for me today? You know, honestly, I have a massive advantage today where I'm at. I genuinely don't need to make money today to pay my bills. That's good and bad can make you complacent, I'm clear of that. But I genuinely am focused on jockey product solutions and what does it look like and how big can we get it. I don't like being in companies that are small. If they're like I said, minimum, a hundred grand a month is the goal. Minimum, minimum. Because there's no reason, if you have a real product, it can't do that. And if it's not doing that, by the way, I'm not talking shit to you, I'm just shooting straight with you. If you're, if your business is not doing at least a million, million two a year minimum, you're either in the wrong industry or you're the problem in the industry. You're the problem in your business. If someone else is doing it and you're not, it's not because it doesn't exist, it's because you don't. You can't get out of your own way you haven't figured out. You have to work on yourself. You have to become a higher level thinker and start doing different things. This is easier said than done, but it's the truth. You have to do that. What are you working on now that's moving the needle for you? Honestly man, I'm working on me. I'm working on my health, I'm working on my financial future, I'm working on my dreams and goals with my fam. That's what moves the needle for me. It's not about money. Money is always going to move, move around. But for me, moving the needle is taking care of me. That will always. If I'm here, I can keep moving the needle. If I'm not here, the needle stops. So that's what I'm really focused on. David, what's your best investment for me to net 25k monthly? Again, that's a dumbass question. Why is that a dumbass question, mark? I'm glad you asked. Well, number one, there's no context to that. I could show you a lot of ways to make 25k a month net, but how hard do you want to work? How Much you want to put in play. What's your risk tolerance? What's your time frame? I mean, there's a million questions that go deeper than that. So this is why most people get ripped off in the world of investing. Because someone promises them a world based off their limited information and they're going to tell you what to do, what they would do, and they're going to take your fucking money and run. I promise you. I guarantee it. It's pretty much a guarantee. So the question needs to be reframed. Hey mark, I have $500,000. My risk tolerance is that, you know, I'm all in. If I lose all this money, I can still pay my bills, still make money. I don't want to, but that's my risk tolerance. If it happened, it's not the end of the world. And here's what I'm willing to do, right? That's one way. Not only that, I do have people and partnerships in my E Commerce company. By the way, if you are interested in that, you should. It's about 35 grand to join. 35 to 55 depending which program you take. Partnership level. But shoot me an email. Markevans DM.com make sure you put in there podcast show E Commerce. Let's talk in the subject line again. Podcast show E Commerce. Let's talk. So I can put you to the right person on the team to help you, but we have people over there making more than 25,000amonth net. Now you gotta be clear though. I gotta wanna be crystal clear though. Not everyone does that. Cause they have big cash availability to make that a reality on their credit card. And two, they have risk tolerance. They understand that this thing could pause for a minute, it's gonna go up one month they're gonna make 42,000. Next month they might make 12,000 up and down. It's called business, called life. So, you know, I think this is where a lot of people get confused. They think they just give someone money and get 25k a month on nothing. I think you probably have to give the bank probably about $2 billion to make 25k a month on their interest. Bobby, what's up man? Haven't seen him forever, this guy. Actually from 06 and 08, I lived in Georgia. I got to meet him. Great, great guy. But he said, hey, where would you start if you had less than 10k in cash to play with? I would start on investing in myself. It's the best investment you'll ever do. You'll never lose money. You're investing in your brain, your knowledge, and find a path and go learn how to become better. Learn how to learn about investing, learn about building a business. That's what I would recommend. Mark. I get this asked all the time. As you guys know. I. I do believe this is one of the dumbest questions out there. And I like Mark, so it's not. I'm not knocking him. But he said, hey, if you had to start all over today with nothing in your pocket, just you and your work ethic, how would you build up your lifestyle again while you have family? Well, number one, I've never met anybody that starts with nothing. You always have something. I'm very good at relationship capital. I make lots of deposits daily, and I'll continue to do so my entire life. So I'm never starting with nothing in my pocket. So I kind of understand where you're coming from in your brain. But most people think the destination is where the progress is made. It's really the journey. The journey is where progress is made. The destination is just. It's a checkpoint in the journey. That's it. Because you'll realize once you get to the destination, you're like, shit, there's more out here and you're going to edit and change and grow. But again, my work ethic is, you know, I'd be more focused on one to many. I'd be focusing on getting the efforts done. Like, I don't understand when people have a problem with, like, building a lifestyle with the family. I have a family. That's number one to me. Business I could give two fucks about if my family doesn't love me and know who I am and what I care about. Like, I'm a failure. I don't care how much money you have. So I think people get really delusional about this whole business, lifestyle, family thing. If you said, mark, here's a million dollars, but you can't see your family for a month, I'm out. I don't want your money. I'm out. I'm not going to do it right. I'd figure out. My question I'd ask myself is, okay, well, fuck, I'm going to show you. How do I make a million dollars without doing what this person's, you know, offering me? How do I go do it on my own and not affect my daily, daily lifestyle? So right before this podcast show, just hang out with the kids, I just had lunch with them, and they were playing with their chalkboard and, you know, I'm talking to him about goals. End of the year, what's their goal? Because Mark got his cool whatever it's called Nintendo Switch. So he plays an hour a day now. And you know, now he's got new goals, he needs new things to focus on. Right. So I would just execute and call people. Honestly, the phone is your friend, Mark. True story. I just sit there and rip through the phone. Hey, what's up, Steve? Hope all's well, man. Haven't talked to you for a while. Do you need anything? Anything going on? Hey, cool. Awesome, man. If you need anything, I'm here. Boom. Hey. Hey, Nancy. What's going on? Haven't talked to you for a minute. What's going on? Like, I would rip out the phone and just do that all day long until started popping. I'm just a connector like that. I genuinely have worked really, really, really hard because I'm listening, I'm listening. What do they need help with? A lot of times they're, they're not even asking for help. They just don't know what they need help on. So I'm just going to listen to them, what they got going on and where they're at and if there's anything I can do to help. And oftentimes they will say stuff. And you connect the dots and make money by connecting the dots. Cool. Greg, which of your books would you re release with updated advice? It's a good question. I would definitely. I've looked at updating the book. Virtual Real Estate Investing Made Easy Book. A lot of things have changed. I wrote that book in 2006 or seven, I believe. So it's not that it's outdated. It just needs updated. The same strategy, same techniques and all that shit still work, but links are probably different now. And you know, the truth is it's actually easier. So it's easier. It's more. It's more acceptable across the board. Back in 2006 and seven, I was buying houses sight unseen. Never talk. I never even meant to people. We just did it virtually. So back then people were like, no, there's no way. And they'd come to an event, I'd show them right there on the spot, real life. And then they're like, oh shit, this is real. And so I would definitely, probably update that one. Let's see here. Doug Shelton, great guy here in Cleveland. A lot of good questions here. And I'd ask, how did you learn how to treat people throughout your life? It's a good question. The truth is, my parents and my grandmother and my grandfather and my Uncles and my aunts, you know, treat people with respect. My mom and dad are amazing people here. They really did give me the tools to be a good human being. And what I do with them is up to me, obviously. But I can tell you I like. I like the way I feel when I treat people right. Treating people right doesn't always mean being nice and easy with them. Just means being real and direct because I want to help people. You know, I always hated going to like things and be like, man, so rough out there. And then the person that's trying to help them, like, yeah, man, it is. It's so rough. No, it's not. It's fucking rough. Like, because you got your head in the sand. Pick your ass up. Let's go to work. What's rough? What's going on? Like, to me, that's when you really care, because I know you know how to treat people good from every walk of life. People you look up to to. People work for you and look up and everyone in between. I feel like I have a decent gauge, a lot of room for improvement on this, but I'm really trying to instill this in my kids. I'm interested where or who you learn this from. Very important in life. Please keep inspiring. Again, these are one. Thank you so much. I do believe I do work on this. This is something I'm very conscious of. I do. I'm a people. I want to help people. I don't. I'm not a people pleaser, but I do want to help people. And oftentimes that takes hard love, tough love, right? Where you have to tell them direct because you know what's best because you've been there, done that. So if they're coming to you and asking, I'm very clear on another thing. I am, like, I. I'm confident in who I am. I guess that's what I'm trying to say. I'm confident. You know, I don't need anything from anybody, genuinely. I never have, never will. I've always been the guy. Like, dude, I'm not going to call you to borrow your car. I'm not going to call you to borrow your house. Like, I just always want to do my. I'll go rent a car. I'll go rent a house. I don't want to be a pest. I don't want to be a. I don't want to be calling you for favors. That. That, to me, it's like. It's amateur hour. I'm very thought. I'm very insightful. Like, I'm paying attention to what you're doing online. I, I take notes. I learn from people. Yeah, Doug, again, I don't think about it a lot. I just kind of do it. And it's probably subconsciously because not only that, let me be honest. I like it when I'm treated good. You know what I mean? And probably one of the biggest lies is treat people how you want to be treated. In my case, I like to be treated good. Therefore, I like to treat people good. I do know people in my life that treat themselves like absolute, like dog at the highest level. Therefore, if you treat them good, they don't know you're treating them good because they're always a victim. So, you know, I match people typically. Honestly, that's what I usually do. But I, I, I hang out with a lot of. I hang out with most great people. Actually, everyone I hang out with on purpose is great people. There are some people in my life that I have very limited association with that sometimes you just got to connect with them. But that's what I do. Good stuff. Favorite cigar, William Bronchic. I answered that. Tobacco spas. Gordito Dolce 6x60 this is cool story Antonio Mas this is neat. 14 years ago, I reached out to you when I was investing in real estate in California. You just happened to be in California too. We met up in Malibu the next day. We had a great conversation and at the time, it was just not right for us to do business together. I thank you for taking the time to randomly sit down with a stranger. You were kind enough when we realized things weren't a good fit. At the time, you were in no rush to leave. Honestly, we hit it off pretty well. I pray for the opportunity to do business with you in the future. Currently my focus at the moment is to take care of my wife who has cancer. But something within me tells me one day we will find ourselves sitting down for a talk once again, Mark. Love you, Mark. You're a really cool and down to earth man. I enjoy seeing your success because I remember our conversations and how even after business did not work out, you still stuck around and we just hung out like a couple of regular guys. Looking forward to seeing you again one day and possibly doing business together. That's cool. Number one, 14 years ago. So Doug's question is treating people right. Like, dude, a lot of people I've rolled with that I end up doing business with in the future is people that. It didn't work out today. By the way, if I'm Talking to you and it doesn't work out. It's not like, yo, you get out of my way, I got to do. It's more like, dude, it just doesn't work out. Anyways, what else is going on, right? Like we're connected, you know, planting seeds. Like I, I'm not meeting people to make money, I'm meeting people to connect with. Just happens oftentimes. We make a lot of money together. Today, tomorrow, in the future, 10 years. This is 14 years ago, folks. So amazing. So I've been planting seeds for 25 plus years, actually almost 20. June will be 26 years. I've been in my adult life and business. So you know, this is a, I'm not a one hit wonder. I've been doing this shit every, every day for many, many years. Another cool thing too. Just again, to expand upon this, I was hanging out with my boy Corey G, if you don't follow me, should. But he was my trainer about 20 something years ago. I used to give out books. And when I gave out books, I'd always put a stamp in it like, hey, this book's been gifted to you by Mark Evans, dm. And then put my website, my phone number on there. Why? Well, because I fucking wanted to help people. If I read a book and it made an impact on my life, well, people I'm rolling with, it might help them too. I handed out thousands of those books, conversations with millionaires. My buddy Mike wrote him and I became great friends. We've actually traveled as a family together multiple times, many, many years in a row. And you know, through that book I connected with them. So people read my books. I've become friends with a lot of people that's read the books that are great advocates of it because birds together flock together. And Corey sent me a. Actually that happened this on Christmas Day it happened. He said, he's like, dude, you're not going to believe what I found. He showed me the book that I gave him this like 20 something years ago. And it has my stamp. And he's like, dude, this fucking book was like catapulted. It changed his whole direction in his life. So again, you just never know. Never, never, never know. So that was February 2011 in Malibu when I met this dude. So it's pretty cool. What market are you looking for acquisitions? Well, I acquire lots of properties in a lot of different states in the last 30 days. We've done stuff in Georgia, multiple parts of Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Ohio, multiple parts in Ohio, Florida, multiple parts in Florida. Probably about 12 or 13 different locations. I don't do much stuff on the west coast. Not that because I don't want to, it's just I don't have a lot of people that or hit me up to do stuff on the west coast. It's just a lot of Midwest and South kind of projects. But I'm, I'm interested in all great deals depending on the size too. I'm not interested in a shifting market with, you know, a single family, you know, that's not my thing. But if it's one of our core markets, you know, it's probably a no brainer. We should do business together. Frank DeFranco. Mark. Frank from Montreal met you back in 2009 in Atlanta at your millionaire mansion experience. There we go. 2009, that's what, 12 years ago. Planting seeds. Jim Whalen. Mark Evans is clearly the coolest and most generous guy on the Internet. I don't know about that, but I try my best to do what I can. You gotta love it. And by the way, I met this guy Jim Whalen. I met him at a Mastermind event probably about 18 years ago. 18 years ago. My, I have a company in the media side. I still send this guy high five figures a month minimum, maybe more. The truth is I don't even know. But I know it's over. I know it's in the five figures minimum. And I have, my team's been doing so for many, many years. And so you just never know. You never, never know. Chad Smith. Why do all successful people smoke cigars? Well, I don't know if all successful people smoke cigars. I actually, true story. I've been smoking cigars. So I had an uncle who passed away actually a year ago, about 512 days ago. It's been a year. My uncle Benny called him Boss Hog. He had always drive around in his truck and smoking cigars, you know, Swisher Sweets. And for some reason I always thought that was cool. I never smoked cigarettes or any of that. Maybe as a kid I tried one or two here, they'd try to be cool. But like I never like my whole family smoked cigarettes. So I kind of always thought it was disgusting to be honest. But the cigar thing looked cool to me, like had a presence and I was kind of never really did any of that. But then I, you know, once I graduated high school and I was driving to jobs, I told my dad, I was like, I want to try a cigar. And I bought these cheap Philly blunts, you know, small cigars. You spend $5 for five cigars. I thought that was a lot back then. And I'd be in my 1987 Chevy's truck. You know, this thing's trash. Burning one to two quarts of oil a day, smoking cigar, Tony Robbins CD with a rubber band around the CD so it wouldn't skip as much with my window down because I didn't have air conditioning in the balls deep of heat of summer in Ohio, sweating my ass off. But I was in heaven, man. Honestly, smoking the cigar just. It relaxed me. It's a true, true story. I actually smoke cigars kind of as meditation for me. I don't really. I don't want to say I don't enjoy because that's not the right word, but I don't really smoke around other people. I sit in my office or in my basement in my, you know, cigar bar area and smoke by myself. It's when I'm reading, it's what I'm writing, it's what I'm thinking, thought auditing. It's kind of more like my, my, my meditation. It's probably not the healthiest meditation, but it works for me. And when I was. Didn't have a lot of money in at all in the bank, I was probably negative. I'd be sitting in that truck, literally driving down 70 east or west, because I was going back and forth to Columbus every day. And I was like, dude, I'm in a. I'm in heaven. I was like, I got life by the balls. I know where I'm going. I'm smoking a fat stogie. It wasn't fat, but it felt fat in my, in my brain. And I'm driving a Rolls Royce, and this is a 1987 truck that definitely was not a Rolls Royce with a ladder rack on it and all that. And I was in the moment. I really. You could not have told me that that was not happening in real life because I was, I made that in my real life. And if you fast forward 12 years later, I bought the Rolls Royce. I dreamt about Rolls Royce Phantom. I was smoking cigars in that day one, and I still do today. I smoke in every one of my cars because I can, and that's what I do. Like I said, I love just driving. I don't drive a lot, but when I do, I go get lost on purpose. I smoke a cigar or two, depending how long I want to drive around, and I think, expand my brain. If you're in Florida, I go down a 1, a 25, 50, 60, 100, million dollar mansions everywhere, you know what I mean? So some people are driving around. When I used to drive around back in the day, just hustling, I was driving around seeing 20, 30, 50 thousand dollar houses I didn't want to be a part of. But that's where I was grinding it out. And I should have been rolling around in upper Arlington looking at the million dollar houses everywhere, making that my new norm. And it's amazing what you do when you do that. But cigars to me, honestly, I don't know what everyone else does, but this is what I do. It relaxes me, puts me in meditation mode. It's kind of my time to think. I got a solid hour when I'm smoking. Let's do my thing. So what's your 4am look like? Mark Clark's asking. Guys, I'll answer a couple more questions here because I don't want to keep you here. I know you guys are busy but hopefully this is helping. I'm just kind of f, you know, firing around. What's your 4am look like? I get up at 4:30ish. 4:44am pretty much daily. I keep track, I keep a scorecard. Actually over the holidays, two days in a row, I got up at 7am actually I got up earlier than that but the kids were up kind of grumpy and one wasn't feeling so good so I was kind of up weird hours but ended up at 7am and you know that. But my 4am Typically boom. Get up, read, turn on the coffee pot, get some work done. Just check out my messages. I send my wife an email every day. Kind of let her know what my schedule looks like, what I got going on. It's good for me, it's good for her. Kind of keeps us on the same page a little bit. That's kind of a newer thing for me. But it's just, you know, and get to work. I get, you know, I go work out at 7am 7 to 8 and then clean up, get out to the treehouse by 8:30ish. And I'm, I'm, I'm hustling, you know, I've already done a lot of reading, I've already done a lot of learning. I've done a lot of implementation. Why it's quiet and I'm working. I don't have a packed schedule. My schedule's pretty open. I do have structures throughout the day, like a couple calls here and there, but I don't like to have a packed schedule. Hopefully that helps. Mark Kuda. Great Guy, what will you be remembered for? Well, what I want to be remembered for is by being a great human being to my family and the world. You know, I just want to. I just want to be a great dad. I want to be a great husband. I want to be a great son, great son in law, a great leader to my team. I want my team to be wealthy beyond belief. All of them, every single person on the team, from the bottom up, top down, whatever. I want them all to look at me and say, man, this guy changed my life. So I want my kids to be respected, respectful, I should say. I want them, you know, to go out, like, hustle on their hustle. They don't have to be dad, obviously. They don't have to be mom. I want them to be the best they can be and want to be and in their, in their special niche. So I just, I just want to be a great leader. Honestly, man, I hope that makes sense. Angel, how can one get mad enough to take action on the things you know will make you money, but you sit there and freeze and don't take action? How does that work? Well, Angel, I have no clue how that works. I'm mad for you. I don't know. You're obviously not mad enough. That's why you're asking the question. And that sucks because, I mean, dude, you're smart enough to know that you're mad. You're smart enough to know that you're freezing. Like, what are you afraid of? It sounds like you're afraid to disappoint yourself. It sounds like you're afraid to fail. Sounds like you're afraid to separate because you might separate from the people that you hang out with right now because you're excelling and you keep getting pulled back in their making it your bullshit. So I don't personally have that problem. But you just got to get mad enough to do something about it. And you'll know when that point comes because you just get so pissed off. You got to do something, dude. To me, what's crazy about that statement is if you went to the doctor and they said, yo, angel, you have cancer in your left arm. If I don't cut this fucker off today, right now, you're going to die. Do you want to lose your left arm and fucking live or do you want to just freeze and die? It's a choice. Most of the people take the wrong choice, from my experience, because they're scared of growing, they're scared of excelling, they're scared of changing. You know, Their old thought patterns and who they used to be. Don't be scared. Just do it. What's this guy's name? I don't know his name, but he said, hey, I'd ask you about the ways you build your business around your lifestyle and learn how to be a better dad and business leader. Well, I mean, again, you know, the way to do it is make it a priority. A dad and lifestyle to me are number one priorities. You know, if. If I can't be a great dad, I don't care how good the business is or bad the business is. It's just business. I. I just. Again, my priorities are very clear, very crystal clear to me, to my family, to everyone who knows me. And that's what I do. If you were 23 at this exact time, what would you do with. To make money? Well, I would work. I'd find a niche and I'd work and I'd. I'd get around great people that are crushing it in life. That's what I would do. Again, a lot of weird questions here. I have a question for you in all areas. Okay, genius. You didn't ask them. I would have answered them. What steps do I need to take to get invited on the jet next time you do it to a Mastermind event? Well, C. Miller again, when I post it, I do it once or twice a year. It's something newer I've done. It's worked out absolutely amazing. Every single person that hops on that jet with us or the yacht even does amazing things. They're doing amazing things. That's how you get on there. Just keep doing your shit. And when you, when the opportunity pops up, take action, pony up and join us. I don't know what this means. This guy said I would ask. What is it that you're saying? Do you believe most of us are not understanding? Again, terrible. I don't even know what that means. Mark. I have. I'm 21 years old. I have $10,000. What would you do? I'd invest in myself. I really would. I. I'd read books, I'd go to mastermind groups, I would network and in niches that I'm. I'm very excited about. E commerce, real estate, crypto. I'm actually this year in 2022 coming up, I'll be attending a lot of crypto events, just learning and knowledging up and. Cause I got some cool things I'm working on behind the scenes. But, you know, meeting some guys at high levels, becoming valuable to them, sharing their message to my audience and just being a value add. Honestly, what's something you would tell your younger self? Like I said, think bigger. Surround yourself around other people. Hire better people than you. I, I mean, list goes on and on and on. Truth is, I actually did a report. It's like 15 pages long. It's not even a report. It's a letter I wrote to myself. What I would write to my 15 year old self if I remember right. And it's kind of a cool thing. I might do something with that. I might share it with you guys if that's something you'd like to see. I haven't looked at it for a while, but if that's something you'd like to see, shoot me a message on instagram @Markevans DM. It's saying, Send the letter to your younger self, please. Like that would let me know if you guys are even interested in that. It's, it's a me sitting down writing a letter to myself. Like I'm so kind of to set the set. The framework is I'm having lunch with myself when I'm 15 years old at the age I was at, and I'm talking to him and he's asking me questions and I'm answering them and I'm asking him questions and, you know, and giving him direction. Again, I do this a lot. I talk to myself all the time. I, I pretty much all successful people I know talk to themselves all the time. You know, I, I really am very conscious of what's going on. Good, bad and ugly. Like, you know, I know my weaknesses, I'm very clear. I know my strengths, I'm very clear. I know my vices. Like, you know, these are things. And I'm a work, I'm a work in progress. I'll never stop learning. I'll never stop growing. I'll never start trying to understand certain things and evolve. I just want to be better at all aspects of my life all the time. Because once I think I'm good, I know there's a blind spot. I know there's another level and. But the truth is that's why I hang out with great people. A lot of people challenge me at all levels. I talk about peer pressure. Positive peer pressure is a positive thing. And I know we get caught up on peer pressure thinking it's negative or bad because that's how we've been taught. But dude, fucking peer pressure with my boys are real and, and I love it, and they love it. It pushes us, gives us confidence, gets us excited. Lets us know what's possible. You know, you might be excelling in health, I might be excelling in wealth. And we're going to collaborate and figure out how to get better at both. And, you know, it really does create some really neat things. You're going to make bigger decisions, bolder decisions, faster decisions when you hang out with proper people. And it's going to be scary, but it's going to be fucking worth. Will definitely be worth it. So, folks, I could sit here and talk about this shit all day long. I absolutely love you guys. I'm thinking about you. 2021 was fucking epic, even with all the crazy shit going on in the world. But listen, I can't control that. I can control me and what we do and what I do and how I do it. And I know you're doing the same thing. I hope 2021 was amazing for you. It is what it is. If it wasn't, fuck it, let's move on to 2022. If it was great, let's catapult to 2022 and everyone's winning. You got to win, keep winning. Even when you're getting punched in the face, you're winning. Why? Because you're still fucking alive. You still got your brain, you still got your hustle muscle, and you just got to keep your feet moving. That's all you got to do. And as life grows and gets bigger and bigger and bigger, the opportunities become very big. So. So you got to stay in the game. Stop thinking so small. Start thinking bigger. More importantly, for real, get around people that are doing and doing big shit. Not just talking about it or thinking about it, but actually fucking doing it. Because it started with a thought and now you're actually seeing the outcome. And here's a really huge thing. And I want to be. I just want to say this and be very real and crystal clear. The number one thing I see most people doing wrong is the thing called comparison. They're comparing their chapter one to my chapter 20. They're comparing your chapter three to my chapter 40. And when you do that, you're never. Comparison is. It's going to steal everything. All your happiness through your progress. Don't do that shit. Get inspired. Not to compare, but to know that it's possible. I'm not here to share with you, to compare against me. I'm here so you can borrow my belief, understand my process, and more importantly, know what's possible. Take that shit and go implement it. My goal, I'm 43. You might be 22. 10 I don't know what your age is, but whatever age in business. I've been doing business now for almost 26 years and I'm still learning. I'm just getting started, truthfully. But my goal and my job and my thoughts and true for realness. I want to make you wealthier, give you a better life faster than I got mine. So I want to condense my 26 years into your two years or five years or 10 years. Anything under 26 years, you're fucking winning, right? And you don't know when this time's going to come. But listen, I'm executing at fast paces. Most people are sitting around freezing and waiting and hoping and praying. Listen, that shit's cool if that's what you want to do. But I don't do that. I get to work, pick a plan, execute the plan. I use other people as inspiration, not comparison. I'm very grateful for where I'm at. I'm very grateful for where I'm going. I'm very honored to be in this position. You are in the position as well. You sharing the show to people by leaving a five star review helps build all of us, build the community of the DM family. We need more people like you. We need more people out there hustling, grinding, pushing, driving, succeeding. Because we're going to meet up one day. The question is, you're going to be at the table. Are you going to be outside looking in, watching all of us at the table? It's a choice. It's one you got to make. I'll be here to support the ones that want to hustle and grow. But if you just want to talk about it, you want to think about it, you want to, man. But I'm just thinking, man, I don't have fucking time to think. We execute and go do it. Appreciate you guys. I'll see you next year. 2022. Have an absolutely amazing day. With that said, make today count.

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