233: Inside the harmonic egg - where frequency meets healing, ft. Claire Grabham

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Hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of Kami Crystals, the podcast. I hope that you're all well. My name is Mart Tweedy, I'm your host, and today's episode is one that I've been really curious about for quite some time because we're going to be diving into something that when you first hear the name, you might think, what the hell is that? So we're going to be talking all about the Harmonic Egg. Now, if you've never heard of it before, you're not alone. It's one of those things that sits right at the intersection of science, energy, frequency, sound, color, and healing. And naturally, as someone who spends a lot of time talking about energy, mindset, and all the tools that can help us shift our state, I was absolutely fascinated. So today I'm joined by Claire Grabham from the Harmonic Egg, and we're going to explore what it actually is, where it came from, and what really happens when someone steps inside of it. Because from the outside, it can sound a little bit like something from a futuristic wellness lab, but the principles behind it are actually rooted in the idea that our bodies respond deeply to vibration, frequency, and environment. So we're going to be talking all about how the Harmonic Egg works, the kind of experiences that people have inside of it, including myself, and some of the transformations that Clare has witnessed from people who have used it. And of course, we'll get into the bigger conversation around energy healing and how tools like this can help bring the body back into balance. So whether you're someone who's already deep into the world of energy and frequency, or maybe you're listening thinking, I've never heard of this before, but color me intrigued, then I think you're really going to enjoy this conversation. So Clare, Welcome to the podcast. I'm really excited to have you here. The Harmonic Egg. What is it? Where did it come from? Who invented it? Give me everything.

So the Harmonic Egg, the thought process was from Gail Lynne. So Gail Lynne is the inventor. And Gail started out as an engineer. So she was an engineer. She was always expected by her parents just to follow their path. So her dad was working in this, um, I think it, was possibly Ford. It was a, it was a car company. My dad was working in the car company. She was expected then follow suit, which she did. It's got quite high up, but she was burnt out. She was stressed a bit, and she knew this wasn't the life path that she wanted to take. She met a guy who was, um, very much into, um, shamanic work and traveling the world and finding out about spiritual things, which really was her awakening. We all have that time, don't we, where that seed is planted and you say this is what I'm interested in, this is what I want to learn about. So, she'd been to Peru with this guy, and other, other places, where the seed was planted. Now, they split up, that was another story, but the seed had been planted where she was following this path. In the next breath, she was with Elvis Presley's stepbrother, making a movie, and her life just seemed to have these sort of explosions of, of different paths. They made a movie about Elvis, it wasn't allowed to come out because because it showed him in a negative light. But along this way, the stress grew with the movie that she'd made. She said she, you know, with all of the executives she was dealing with, with being at the top of that pile, the stress was intense. And she went to a cardiologist and he said, you've got the heart of an 8-year-old. And at the time, I think she was about 30-odd, and she thought, things have to change. She was getting out of breath walking, um, wasn't really like She didn't look unhealthy in her body, but she was unhealthy in her body. So within the town that she lived, there was a guy who had a light box, and she was walking by one day and she thought, I'm gonna try that. And she went to the light box and sat in the box. And I mean, obviously now we have light within the egg, um, but this was her first instance of having light as a possible health alternative. Is a modality. So tried the light box 2 or 3 times, didn't think anything of it. Went back to her cardiologist and he said, what have you done? She said, I haven't done anything. He said, your heart is back to the way it should be. What have you done? She said, the only thing that's changed is I've been in the light box. And she also noticed that when she was walking up hills, she wasn't struggling to breathe. So she knew there was something in this. So Gail being Gail, she decided to get as much information as she could. By moving in the owner of the light box into her home, and, um, they went into business together. And she sort of gathered all of the information she could about light and how it can help heal the body. Within that, frequency was introduced as well. And she had a car crash and went into the light box after the car crash and started receive— receiving downloads of information. These downloads were you have to create an egg-shaped box, um, or an egg-shaped chamber with light, with frequency, and it has to have sacred geometry running through it. And this is where the Harmonic Egg was born. So the Harmonic Egg was born from a download of information that Gail received, and then it started on a path to try and find somebody who could build this creation that she had in her head, which also took quite a while, you know, finding the person that could can create a wooden egg chamber with something in itself. But she found the person and created the egg, and this is how the egg was born. A sound chamber that uses frequency, light, and sacred geometry, um, to heal and to reset the nervous system.

So how did all of this come around for you then, Clare? Because you haven't always been in a sound frequency, have you? So what's your background?

So my background, um, really started with emotional well-being, um, children's emotional well-being. Having 4 boys, I needed to help them. There was always things that you need to help, you know, there are always things that you need to help your children with. So I am a knowledge seeker, and starting my parenting journey, I realized I knew nothing. You're thrown into it, aren't you? You're absolutely thrown into this this, this place of no knowledge. And if you don't seek it, I feel like your life's going to be really difficult. So starting off with the, the two older ones, I realized that I knew nothing, and I had challenges within, um, parenting. And I think you parent the way that you were parented, which is fine, but there's so much more knowledge out there now. So we have neurodiversity running through our family. And with that, you have dysregulated nervous systems. You have children who maybe don't understand the way that the world works. And so I started reading psychology books. And I read psychology books on children's brains, on the nervous system, on how the vagus nerve works. And I started using, um, meditation and breathwork and massage to calm my children's nervous systems. With that came, training with Relaxed Kids. And Relaxed Kids, um, are emotional wellbeing coaches that coach children between the ages of 4 to 18. So I became a Relaxed Kids emotional wellbeing coach, and with that I started going into schools and using the knowledge that I was using on my children to then spread that knowledge within primary schools. And so I would take a class of 30 children and we would use breathwork and stretching and strong sentences saying, I can do this, I am calm, I am safe, um, and using meditation. Now, in the meantime, I was still stressed out, you know. I still had anxiety of my mom wasn't well at the time— she's passed now— of running the household for 4 children and of trying to help them regulate and also keep myself regulated. And I felt burnt out. And I noticed that there was an advert for a sound bath, and I think it must have been around 2018, and it was just down the street. And I said to my husband, I need that. I don't know what that is, but I think I need it. And I walked down the street that night and I went to the sound bath, and I remember the couple, they're an amazing couple. It was called the Lotus Sound Academy, and they traveled the Northeast. There wasn't many sound baths back then in 2018, 2019. And they travel the Northeast, um, delivering the sound baths. So I went in, got myself all cozied up, knew the girl beside us, and I was like, oh, hi. And at the end I said to her, wow, that was amazing. I was so relaxed. I feel like I could have fallen asleep. And she went, Claire, you were asleep. You were snoring. And that made me realize that it took me to a place that I didn't realize I was under. That I was in that meditative state of thinking I was awake, but actually I was way, I was way under. And I floated into the house that night and somebody was wrestling and somebody was throwing a ball, but I wasn't stressed. It didn't touch us. I just floated in and I was calm and I could deal with the children in a, in a beautifully calm way. So I started introducing sound into my work within, um, relaxed kids sessions as well. And I started telling the people, I started telling children, I started telling people of how this sound bath effect is. And every time the Lotus Sound Academy would come, I would go and I would have a sound bath. And I said to my friends, girls, you have to come to the sound bath. They were into, you know, the, the modalities that I was into, Reiki, and just trying to find ways to calm your nervous system. And they're like, right, okay. When's the next one? I think it was April 2022, and we went along the sound bath, and the next day I had the WhatsApp messages. Oh my God, I've had the best sleep of my life! What was that? I've never felt so chilled out. I was like, we'll find out when the next one is. And I Googled the next one. It must have been a nighttime, because I can remember lying in bed Googling when the next sound bath was, and the egg came to the top of the Google search. And the visual of the egg, I was like, what is that? Clicked on the link and this hook attached to my chest and drew me to the Harmonic Egg and it didn't let go. It was like, as soon as I saw this visual of the egg, I thought, that's it. I know that I am going to purchase that egg. And it's gonna be part of my life, and I didn't know how I was gonna do it. You know, I'm the positive in our relationship with my husband. When I say negative, he's logical. He looks at what could go wrong, where I just don't think about what can go wrong. It can only go right. So he was asleep and I remember texting him and saying, hi, yeah, wanna do this? Um, this is the link. This is what it does. And then probably for about 2 hours, I lay awake gathering my argument for going towards the egg. And so he woke up the next morning and I woke up and he's like, okay, I've got your message. What's this? And I said, it's a sound chamber and frequency is the future. And do you know Tesla said this about sound? And do you know Einstein said this about frequency? And he's like, yep. 'Looks good.' Well, you could have knocked me out with a feather because I was just like, 'No, you are going to argue against this.' So him being on board, immediately I just knew that this was, this was it. And from there on in, from deciding to do that, to, to buy the egg, it just flowed like a river. Everything just, just made sense and Yeah, that's how the egg came to be in the Northeast.

And obviously you were telling me in one of the very first sessions here at the Harmonic Egg that there's only 3 of these in the UK. Is that right? There's lots in the US, but you had to have this specifically flown in from the US, didn't you?

That's true. So at the time there was only 1 egg in the UK and it, it was Marie and she was in Doddlesworth. Is it Doddlesworth? Near Chester, um, you know, on the outskirts of Manchester. And this is how crazy you would maybe call it, but invested I was, I bought the egg before I tried it. I bought the egg before I tried it. I just knew. Um, so I bought it and then went to try the egg and Marie was a lovely host. Me and my two friends went along and tried the egg. And thankfully I knew it was, you know, everything that I wanted it to be. But yeah, I was the second egg in the UK, and I was in the Northeast. And since then there's now 3 eggs. The one from Chester is in East Anglia, is it? And then we have London, and then we have the egg in the Northeast.

So, why the egg? Because, I think that's quite intriguing in itself. Like, why that egg shape in particular?

So the egg shape, well, first of all, when you think of an egg, not only is it gathering life and energy from the inside, but also it's a protective layer. So when you look at it, even from that point of view, you have something that is protective but also grows and wants to grow, you know, with you. But the egg shape, um, encompasses sacred geometry. So when you start looking into sacred geometry and sacred geometric patterns, sacred geometry is the information of the universe in visual form, and it's mathematical. And mathematics is the information of the universe, you know, in mathematical form. So we have mathematical shape and sacred geometrical shape within the egg, which is a dodecahedron, will have the numbers 3, 6, 9 running through the shape of the egg. You sit on a hexagon within the egg because the numbers are very much, and the sacred geometry is very much, um, all-encompassing within the egg. It's very important. Um, you'll find that the numbers 3, 6, 9 are sort of universally very magical, very auspicious numbers. You know, Tesla, Einstein, Pythagoras all believed that there was something mystical about the numbers 3, 6, 9. And if you knew the, you know, who was it? Was it Tesla that said if you knew the power of the number 3, 6, 9, you would have the key to the universe? So the shape of the egg is the sacred geometry that we feel actually adds the energetic sort of frequency, sound, light, and sacred geometry.

Yeah, and I even know like the healing frequency 369 Hz, everyone refers to that as the God frequency because it really helps with manifestation, doesn't it? So how does the light, sound, and color all work together to influence the mind and the body then?

So we— I mean, the frequency is very important and we use different frequencies depending on what the person needs. So if I was, say, using 432 Hz, that's quite a well-known frequency. So if I was using 432 Hz, that I would know would calm the nervous system. But we also have frequency in color. And when you start looking at color, and you'll probably have felt it yourself, when you wear something bright, you feel upbeat. But there's also a frequency within that color spectrum. So we would use maybe purple or blue to— it's purple and blue are very calming frequent color frequencies, and purple is amazing, also attributed to the crown chakra and around the crown and throat chakras. But purple calms the mind, clears the mind, can help with clarity. Blue calms the body and can also be sort of, um, a little bit like water, very cleansing. So when you start looking into how important colour is, not only with the frequency that's being, you know, portrayed out when you're using it, but also how it has an effect on you physically and mentally, it's really important. So encompassing frequency and the colour and the sacred geometry, we do believe taps into the quantum field as well. So if we want to start Talking about that, I mean, it's so complex, you know. I'm not a science person. I can take on information, I can, you know, and I can sort of understand it to a certain degree. But when you have, when you start looking into the quantum field, different frequencies create the opportunity to tap into different dimensions. So we can go interdimensional. And so we do have the aspect of tapping into the quantum field when you're in the egg. So you you would have the energetic field of frequency, the energetic field of color. You're in the middle of these frequencies because you're sitting in the chair. You also have the energy of that sacred geometrical information as well. We believe that that creates a torsion field where you're sitting in the middle of a torsion field, and with all of those energetic patterns that are being created, you have then the scalar waves from the frequencies, which can then take it into the perfect dimension for you to have whatever it is you need from the egg.

Yeah, I was just going to say there, Clare, I think every single time that I've been to the egg, I've had a totally different experience. But the very last time that I was in a couple of weeks ago, I specifically requested one of the programs that I had previously. And I know there are 65 programs in total, aren't there? And I feel that you are so intuitive as a person, you know exactly which programme to, to choose for me. So you do a little assessment when someone comes to the Egg. You then give a personalised recommendation on whichever programme you think. And one of the weirdest experiences that I've ever had when I came to you was when I asked if you could help me with balancing my nervous system. But I remember also saying that I would love some abundance and some clarity in me life. Now, when I first lay in the egg and the music started, I obviously closed my eyes. You stood at the door and you set the intention for the session before guiding me through that short 60-second meditation. And the very first thing that I started to see was a bright blue sky with what appeared to be like a mesh veil over it, almost like I was about to walk down the aisle with a veil over my face. Now, as that session went on, those tiny holes in that veil got bigger and bigger, to the point that they were almost like those '80s fishnets that women used to wear, almost like it was revealing the blue sky and the universe to me. And then at the end, there's like a 10-minute silence to allow your body to integrate the healing. And I kid you not, during those 10 minutes, I felt like I was on a boat on water, like I was on a boat in the middle of a lake, almost like going side to side, like swaying with the momentum of the water beneath me. And I remember talking to you about this afterwards, and when I got home, I put it all through ChatGPT the entire experience about what I'd felt, what I'd seen, and it specifically said that the swaying was likely the sympathetic and the parasympathetic halves of my nervous system both coming back into balance. So it was like the egg gave me everything that I needed in that session. It was the clarity from being able to see the sky. It was the, the motion of the side to side of the balancing of my nervous system. It was basically everything that we set the intention for. Now that blew my mind. So what other things do people come to the egg for?

A whole host of things. So I have people whose nervous system just seems to be shot. You know, they have very stressful lives, um, anxiety. They may have past trauma from things that have happened, you know, through childhood or within life. So it's addressing what we start with first. And that's why we have that, you know, those, that first maybe half an hour, 40 minutes to be able to get to the crux of, of what's happened in the past, how they're feeling right now and what they feel that they need. And from there, I can deduct from those, the frequencies that I have, what I think I'll start them on the journey. And it may be that they just want to come in for one session and just feel relaxed. And just calm the nervous system. But if they really want to do the work, then we'll start them on a protocol. So the very first session that they'll have is an autonomic nervous system reset. Everybody has that first, as you know, and it resets your nervous system so that your body is in a place where it can start to heal. Your body can't heal, your body can't calm down until we've, we've reset the nervous system. And when I say reset, what I mean is that, is that You're lying there and the frequency passes through your body and it passes through your tissue and it passes through your nervous system. You know, as we know, sound travels through these things. And it just takes you to a place where your body can come out of fight, flight, or freeze. If you're in a, in a job, if you're in a, a situation where you're constantly in fight, flight, or freeze, then your body is in a, in a mode. Where it cannot be in a place of healing, it cannot be in a place of calm. And so you're never going to be able to, to be in a place where you can, for instance, if you were— I know I digress all of the time, this is just the way I talk— if you're in a place of stress, you're going to come at that with stress because that's what's inside your body. But after you've had your egg sessions, and if you've had, say, 2 or 3, you will attack that problem from a place of calm rather than a place of stress. You know, it's one of those things where we start from a place where we need to start, and then the egg sometimes give you, again, as you know, it'll give you something that you need and not what you want. You say, what I really need is, is to get rid of this pain in my knee. And actually what you really need is, is to realize that we're not moving forward with something, and that the pain in your knee is emotional, and it's because you can't move forward until we, we get to an emotional sort of realization, and then we can move forward. And all of a sudden, that pain in the knee goes along with the emotion that's been attached to it.

It's really funny that you say that, because I don't know if you remember, but the very first session that I had, and the very first time I ever met you, I had exactly that. I had a pain in the side of my knee and it was excruciating. I remember it was stopping me from running. And after that very first session, I thought, well, that didn't really work, the pain's still there. But just a couple of days later, I woke up and that pain was completely gone. Now, for context, I'd had that pain for about 6 months at that point and it hadn't gone away. And then just from one session in the egg, it had gone completely. So what other transformational things have you seen after people have had just one session in the egg?

Yeah, so we can have things like that which are physical. And although, you know, we can't say the egg will take away your pain, um, it's not something that you could ever put on the tin. It's more sometimes pain can be the nervous system or it can be emotional. So we can have something like that. And I've had transformations with people who have had quite acute anxiety, and they've come in, and I suppose part of it is also being able to talk to me and get out what these anxieties are and where they've come from. And then the egg, we work in unison, myself and the egg, where I'll do the listening and the egg will do the physical, the emotional, the spiritual work. So we've had some real, um, amazing steps forward with people who have anxiety I've had somebody who's had treatment-resistant, um, is it, uh, treatment-resistant depression, where it's just lightened the feeling within his body, where he felt like that heavy weight within his chest, things were released. So we can have emotional and physical releases. We've had things where people have maybe held trauma and emotion inside and not ever opened that box up and The egg has given him that, that space and that place to be able to open the box up, but not in a traumatic— not reliving the trauma. It's just helped it release that trauma. So it, it, it can take time. You know, things that have manifested over years and decades aren't just released in one session. But if you're ready to invest your time, we can work through those things. Um, I've had people who've went in as one profession and then came out and just had the clarity to say, I am not going to do that job anymore. I've always wanted to do this. And I've like, okay, are you sure? And it's given them some clarity and focus to say, hey, this is not what I want. I don't know whether it's the way that it calms your nervous system to a place where It gives you the clarity and it opens the mind so that you can focus on what you've always wanted. But yeah, there's lots of different ways that the egg can change people.

So what's the significance of lying down then? Because obviously, once you've had that initial assessment with yourself and you've chosen a frequency, you take them through into the room where the egg is, you open up the chamber, and you basically sit on a seat, don't you? The seat reclines so that your body is horizontal, like you're laying on a bed, but your legs are elevated into the air, almost like you're lying down with your legs up a wall. And for anyone listening, that does sound uncomfortable. I know I'm not really selling it well, but it's strangely relaxing. And every session I've had, I've actually looked forward to being in that position again. It's strangely comforting. Is there any significance in that positioning to receiving the healing from the egg itself?

There is some significance in the fact that when we lie you back, and we call it the zero gravity chair. So then when you're in that horizontal position, it takes the weight off your shoulders, your hips, your knees. And I have had people who've said that they feel like they're floating, or that they feel like they just were not in the body. I've had people say that they felt like they just became part of the consciousness and that they couldn't feel the body at all, or that they felt like the body was weighted down, but yet they were above it. So there's the significance of the Zero Gravity Chair, but also when you look at it from a physical perspective, if your legs are elevated, then your blood is flowing down towards your head and back again. It's making your blood work harder, which is great for oxygenating the brain and great for your lymphatic system. So it's a two-pronged benefit.

And can I just ask as well, because a lot of people are naturally spiritually open like we are, me and you, others are more skeptical. So what would you say to someone who's curious but a bit unsure about whether or not this would actually work for them?

Well, a lot of the time I'll go with the science. You know, I'll have somebody and they'll come and they'll say, I'd love my husband to do this, but he's not very spiritual. I was like, but there's so much science to the egg without the spiritual aspect. So if we're going from a science perspective, When frequency is passed through water, it creates beautiful sacred geometric patterns. Now, we could go back to the information of sacred geometry, and the sacred geometry is the information of the universe. I probably wouldn't say to this person's husband, I probably wouldn't go that deep, but what I would say is that frequency reharmonizes cells and tissue and, you know, and the fascia within our body. When you pass frequency through a cell, if you listen to a cell, you'd probably find that it's resonating at about 1,000 Hz. Your heart has more matter, it's more dense, so that probably resonates at about 100 Hz. But if you have inflammation, if you're not well, if you're stressed, your cell will not be resonating at 1,000 Hz. Your heart will not be resonating at 100 Hz. But when you pass frequency through a cell, when you pass frequency through tissue, it reharmonizes and brings it back up to that resonance, the hertz that it should be. So I'll usually find that somebody who is skeptical spiritually understands the science of frequency. And there's so much research now, the NHS uses frequency, I think it's called histotripsy, and they use frequency to attack um, tumors in the liver. They use frequency to manipulate tissue within the heart. So when the skeptical husband needs some information about frequency and you start talking about things like this, they become a lot less skeptical and realize that frequency can be used in so many ways to benefit us medically. You'll have somebody For instance, like John Stuart Reid, who is a professor, or he was a professor at Northumbria University, and he is an acoustic physicist. He is the font of all knowledge on how we use frequency to benefit us physically. And he made the cymascope, and the cymascope is a way to see sound visually. And so as part of his research, he would use, say, blood, for instance, to research how frequency affects blood. And he has, if you go onto YouTube, you can actually watch this video. If you put in Jon Stewart read blood and frequency, or you would put in, um, research with blood. He does this experiment where he puts blood in a Faraday cage, a vial of blood in a Faraday cage, and he puts blood into a cage with frequency passing through it, leaves it for a certain amount of time. I think it was around 3 days, goes back and tests the blood, the blood that's been in the Faraday cage. A Faraday cage is something where nothing can get through, no sound, nothing, no light. That was just the same. But the blood that had been, had frequency passing through was more oxygenated. You'll find that blood, imagine blood is coins being stacked when it's not in a healthy state. The blood was free, the, there wasn't, the coins weren't stacked, they were flowing around. And it was, it was more red in color, it was more vibrant. So passing frequency through blood had so many beneficial effects. So he's such an interesting person. If people are interested in sound, to actually go to his YouTube channel and see what frequency does for the body. He has amazing stories about how it healed his spine whilst he was in Egypt within one of the tombs. But I'll let people in, that'll be something that people have to research. And see what happened with John Stewart Reid and how it healed an ongoing motorbike accident spinal injury that he had. So we have those skeptics who I would talk about the scientific side of the egg and how frequency, um, can be a benefit to the nervous system and the physical side, and they can understand that. But those who are aligned spiritually, We have such bigger conversations. You know, you come in here and we talk dimensions and the quantum field and the spiritual and energetic field. And what I find is people who are interested and aligned spiritually have different experiences. Um, so when you are on the egg, it creates that space, that energetic field where sometimes I've had customers who have had people visit them. I haven't. Now, knowing that I go in weekly, you might find that odd, but it's something that I just feel like I obviously don't need, or it's not that. It's always universal timing in my book. It's always supposed to be in the right space and time. But I have had customers who have said, my dad was there with me. I felt him. I knew he was there, and I knew You know, there's things— I'm not going to go into personal things, but there's things that have been said that needed to be said. That can never be a guarantee, but I know that it's happened. I've had people who have had— they feel like they've gone to past lives. One of my friends in particular, she was in the prairies, and she said, I'm in the prairies. She said, I am physically there, Claire. I am there. There's grass fields, there's white picket fences. My family are giving me the biggest hug because they haven't seen me in so long, and that love is real. So we have people who think that, you know, that feel like they have gone into past lives, and then we have people who feel like they have ancestors or whoever come to give them some healing. You know, I feel like sometimes I've had something like a shamanic power retrieval, which I've had in the past, where something that I've lost has been put back in. Something, you know, whether it was the loss of my mom or something that I've had where I've lost part of my soul or something's left, has been put back in again. And I remember coming out of the egg one day and thinking, yeah, that was nice. And I stood up and I went, wow, look at that. It's like a piece, a jigsaw puzzle had been put back in and I felt more whole. And I also felt like I had that reddy brec glow. And it was when I was in Newcastle and I was walking around Marks Spencer's thinking, people can see this, they can see this glow. I felt like they could see something had been put back in me and I felt like I was glowing. So you can't quantify it. I can't say this is going to happen. But people have had spiritual experiences. One in particular, lady, one lady in particular, I can remember she was not spiritual and she was a scientist and more scientific. Um, and she said, look, I'm not interested in the spiritual side of things. I wanna have an egg and want to feel, you know, nice and calm, relaxed. I was like, hey, it can do that for you. Can definitely do that for you. Let's call her Sheila. So Sheila went in the egg, fictional name, Sheila. Sheila went in the egg, and then after the 50 minutes, I opened the door and I was a bit worried because she looked a little bit in shock. And I was like, are you okay? And she said, yes, I've had 5 of my ancestors behind me and I'm a bit freaked out. She come out, had a drink, sat down, and she said, It's made me think, why have I not explored the spiritual side of life? And she was in her 40s, and I was like, but it's okay, this is the catalyst. So this, it was never the right time to explore your spiritual side, but the egg has been the catalyst to, to give you this insight that maybe now is your time, that you, you had this feeling that you had people who have passed. Visit you, and now is the time to be more open to looking into that side of things. So yeah, there is the spiritual aspect, the physical aspect, the scientific aspect, um, and the egg gives you what you need, not exactly what you ask for, it gives you what you need.

And as well as the sound healing, like the very first time I came, I remember you talking me through the benefits of having those 10 minutes silence at the very end of the session. And I remember, like, I'm used to it now, but I felt like you closed the door. I was in the egg, maybe 2 to 3 minutes had passed, and the music went off. You opened the door, and I just assumed that something was wrong in the egg or the programme. And as I looked up to you, you said, "Welcome back." And I thought, "That's strange. What's happened?

Why is she saying welcome back?" I can remember you checking your phone because you didn't believe you'd been in the egg that long.

Yeah, because if I'm honest, Claire, I genuinely didn't believe you. I had to check my phone, like, for the time, and even then I thought, she's altered the clock on my phone. I genuinely, hand on heart, thought that I'd been in that egg for around 3 minutes. It was almost like I'd time traveled into the future in that very moment. I was so dazed, so confused, didn't know what was going on. But I'd been in there almost an hour, and I specifically remember you mentioning about that 10 minutes of silence at the end. And you explained that it was super important because you told me a story about violin music and the benefits of that silence.

I know what you're talking about. So, um, as part of our research, um, Gail was looking into what was important, you know, time-wise within the egg and how long we should be in there, and then what, you know, what should happen afterwards. And she found this research where there'd been research on breast cancer patients and they were asked to listen to 40 hours of violin. And the research showed that when they listened to 40 hours of violin, the tumor shrunk within the breast. But as an aside, what they found also was that those that listened to 40 hours of violin and then had at least 6 minutes of silence afterwards, the tumor shrunk even more. And what had happened was the body integrated the information it received from the music within that 6 minutes of silence. And so, if you look into music and you get really deep about music, Pythagoras was probably one of the first, well, the first people that we know who really had a full understanding of music and how music is mathematical. And you can attune, he was one of the first people to tune instruments you know, and have them tuned to his— to the frequencies that we still use today. And what he found was that music is mathematical, and mathematics is the information of the universe. So when we have frequency passing through our body, we are receiving the information of the universe in frequency form. And that one, you know, that frequency wants to help. If you align that as well spiritually, you know, the frequency wants to help us to live at our highest vibrational frequency. The silence within, you know, afterwards is our body receiving that information and disseminating it and integrating it. And so it's just as important as the, the 40 minutes that feels like 3 minutes.

Yeah, because I remember driving home that very first day after my first session, and I think I said to you that I didn't have my radio on, which for anyone who knows me, it's quite unusual for me not to have any form of music on when driving. Even when I'm working, when I'm here in the office, or when I'm at home, I'm always listening to something as background music. I absolutely hate silence. So whether it be a podcast or music or a subliminal, the TV. And when I drove home after that first session, I had the window down ever so slightly, just taking in a bit of lovely fresh air. And I remember driving down the motorway, doing the speed limit, and someone came speeding up from behind us and they overtook us. They were easily doing like 80 to 90 miles an hour. And I just remember like sitting there driving home thinking, someone's in a rush. I wonder what they've got that's so important for them to be doing that speed and why they're rushing around like that. When usually I'd be the one that would be darting from one appointment to the next. But I just felt so zen and relaxed that I just started questioning, like, why they were going so fast.

Yeah, it's sort of— you look from the outside looking in at your life. And I can remember you saying on that day, because you do do the work, you know, you, you do a lot of work, and you're like, oh yeah, I'm always either listening to something subliminally, or I'm doing a meditation, or I'm listening to something. And I said, Mart, when do you ever have silence? And you said, well, I don't. And I was like, what did you say? You don't have silence. And you were filling your life with so much information. And we had that conversation about how important silence is too. And just having that space to be. And yeah, then you messaged me afterwards, didn't you? And you said, I just had the most surreal experience. I didn't have the radio on. And you were viewing the world from an outside perspective in a way, and noticing how fast-paced everything is, but yet you've had your egg and you're not in that rat race.

Yeah.

It's a little bit like, um, I know there's a story and I'll butcher it and I'll never get it right perfectly, but somebody asks, um, a Buddhist monk about anger. And he said, well, it's whatever is inside you comes out. And he said, if you're holding a cup of tea and somebody knocks you, then tea will come out. If there's nothing in your cup, then nothing comes out. And I find now, obviously I'm lucky enough to have an egg every week, that my reactions, because I do have this state of inner calm, if something like somebody whizzing past and beeping me were to happen, I would just say, oh, I wonder why he's so upset. But 3 years ago, I might have beeped back because what was inside of me was stress and anger and frustration. So what the egg does is it calms your nervous system to a point where you look at the outside world and you think, wow, look at me. I'm so calm.

Now see, this is why I need an egg in me house, and I genuinely even considered getting one of these to fill the space in me new office until I saw the 50 grand price tag. Because you always come across as the Queen of Serene Clare, and I think it's clearly because the egg is doing a bloody good job with you having your weekly sessions. Do people tend to feel something straight away after just one session, or is the impact more subtle and gradual the more that they do it over time?

I think it depends on how stressed you are, how anxious you are, and also how your brain works. So what I've come to find over the years is that somebody who is very stressed, who can't switch off, they may feel it with the first session, but they would need possibly 2 or 3 more sessions before they really start to notice that those anxious feelings are starting to dissipate. And they feel calmer inside, they will notice subtleties. How they react to something, how maybe they didn't get as stressed over something and it just slid off them. Somebody who has possibly a neurodiverse mind, I would say more ADHD, the mind's constantly working and they've got a thousand tabs open and their brain works in a different way to other brains in an amazing and powerful way. But I would say they may not feel it on their first session, and they'll feel it again on 2, 3, or 4. And it does— rather than build up in the system, I thought— I think it sort of takes down barriers within the brain and releases things that need to be released. But yeah, you need to build those sessions up to feel that benefit. But I would say 90% of people feel it straight away. 85 to 90% of people just have that sort of, wow, there's nothing in my brain. Where did my thoughts go? And why do I feel a little bit woo?

Yeah, I felt like my brain had been in a blender the very first time. And I struggled to feel anything, if I'm honest. Like almost like a numbness, but a really nice, peaceful, and calm numbness, if that makes sense. Like nothing could affect us.

Yeah, it's like a reset, isn't it? And I always tell my customers, my first feeling, I can remember we were driving back and on the way to my first egg session, we're driving there and it's like, oh, have you heard about this? Have you noticed this? Have you seen this text message? Blah, blah, blah. And there was me and my two friends talking constantly. And then we had our egg session on the way back. I remember saying, I can't talk to you. I'm sorry, but I just have no words. And they're like, it's fine, we can't talk either. And I can remember looking out the window and thinking, this reminds me of childhood and being on a journey with your family in the car, and you had no emails that you were going to have to deal with, and no bills, and no stress. You just had this clear mind, and you were watching the trees and the world go by. And that was my first feeling after my egg session, where nothing mattered, and I didn't have the stresses of daily life. And, you know, it can come back in again because we'd still have our lives to lead, but that first initial session was just that place of, of purity where everything that I'd thought of had just disappeared. And it's a beautiful state of peace, isn't it? Yeah. And I noticed this a few It was probably about 6 months ago now in the summer, and I had been in a very high state of anxiety probably 4 or 5 years ago. Um, you know, I had cases where I was having problems with one of the kids at school and trying to deal with navigating them here, there, and everywhere. Life just felt very big, and I just wasn't dealing with it. Um, and I remember that feeling in my body. And one of my children didn't really want to go to school, and so I was dealing with that and the school coming at me and, and trying to really be there for him. And the stress was just unbelievable. I remember going home and being nearly shaking with stress, but also crying and disassociating and not being able to do what I really wanted to do. And that feeling within my body was just so intense. And 6 months ago, I can remember getting my 9-year-old to bed, and it was a beautiful summer's day, and the sun was shining in through the window a little bit. And I thought, wow, what a great place to be. Look at him, he's asleep, he's so cute. I'm relishing, because he's my youngest, these moments. And then I said, and look at you. And my body was in this state of calm, and I remember thinking, remember that feeling 5 years ago? 'Look at this feeling now.' And it was a pure, it was a gift. The gratitude that I had, and I get quite emotional thinking about it actually, the gratitude that I had for this feeling of peace was intense. And I just sort of just said out loud to the universe, 'Thank you so much for this.' And that's what the egg, I feel, has given us. Again, I'm lucky enough to have it weekly, but it's calmed my nervous system to a point where I feel like I could deal with anything. It's a polar opposite feeling, and so it's just an absolute gift.

So how often would you advise someone to have an egg session?

Yeah, it's, it's totally individual, so that's why I will have the, the meeting and we have a conversation every time you come in the egg to see where you're at. I feel like if somebody was maybe like I was 4 or 5 years ago, I would say have 6 sessions. And if you can have them on a weekly basis for your first 2 or 3, you'll notice a difference within your nervous system. And then what I'll usually find is that somebody will say, 'I am feeling great,' you know, after your 3rd session. Say, 'Why don't we just do this in 2 weeks' time instead?' And then it'll get to a point where I say, 'Why don't we do this, you know, on a monthly basis?' And then if they're feeling great about themselves, it might be that they, they are, they have a session once every 6 weeks from then on in. So it depends on what it is that we're dealing with. But if it's usually the nervous system, 6 sessions, some within a short space of time. If it's something physical, it can be that we will need to have those 6 sessions, but then continuous sessions. And because it takes time to undo what's accumulated over these years, so it's not a quick let's have an egg session and I'm going to feel great. It's let's have an egg session and let's use these different frequencies to target what we need to target. And that doesn't always take 1 session, 3 sessions, 6 sessions. It can take a lot longer, but things that have accumulated over the years, and this is what happens, isn't it? We start off feeling stressed and that stress can then turn to inflammation in the body. And that inflammation then turns to disease. And that dis-ease needs to have other modalities thrown at it rather than just medicine and pharmaceuticals, you know, and sometimes it's not Even physical, it's emotional, it's spiritual. And that's what we work on. It's not just a physical thing with the egg. It's physical, emotional, spiritual. And we're dealing with the wholeness of all of us and not just the physical side of things.

And why can we only have one session a week? Is that kind of to give the body time to process the frequency changes within?

It's a very strong energy treatment. So you have that frequency that's passed through your body, it's gonna have a detox effect. So customers are told that it will have a detox effect and that they need to hydrate, you know, for the next 3 or 4 days. So on a physical level, it has quite a strong detox effect. When Gill did her tests and she had a Chinese medicine doctor, she had a remote viewer, she had quite a lot of different people who had different skills and modalities test the egg out, what they found was that the body could only take 40 minutes a week, and anything after that, you could have a, um, a healing crisis, or you could have a major detox where, you know, you had really bad stomachs, really intense migraines, um, because the body couldn't deal with that amount, um, of energy work. So it's only between— you can only have an egg between 5 and 7 days, um, so that your body can have time to use the energy and, you know, let that energy run through and do its work, and then ready again 5 days later, 7 days later, um, to receive that energy treatment again.

I've loved this conversation, Clare, honestly. And finally, what I just want to ask you before we wrap this up is if you could leave the listeners with one idea or belief about energy healing, or the body's ability to rebalance itself, what would that be?

Well, what we have to understand is that we are just energy, and the energy that you surround yourself with is the energy that you will be, you know, that, that's how you're living your life. And what I've found is, as I've, um, had energy treatments like Reiki sound baths and the Harmonic Egg, it raises my vibrational energy. I feel my body vibration in this high vibration. But what happens as an aside to that is, as you raise your vibration, some of those lower vibrational energies and people who maybe— and this isn't a slight— that people who are just on a different vibrational level start to move away. And you start sort of migrating towards people who are also high vibrational. So my, my thing would be to look at the energy that you surround yourself with. Who are you vibrating with, and who are you not resonating with? Vibration and energy are everything, and we know it. You know, when you approach somebody and they have maybe some low vibrational energy and and they're feeling angry and they're feeling stressed, you start to soak that up. So what are you soaking up? When you're with somebody who you feel amazing with, who wants you to grow and, and get higher within, you know, that higher energetic field, or just wants you to succeed, you feel it and you feel amazing around them. So look at the energy that you're surrounding yourself with and what needs to be left behind. And where do you need to be? And I think that the egg sometimes shows this and it makes it more apparent to me. But I feel like you have to make sure you have good energy hygiene. If you wanted to check out the website so you can have more information, it's www.harmonicaeggnorth.com. And there you'll find information about the Harmonic Egg. And there's obviously the booking page as well where you can book your sessions. Um, but anything that they need is to, to find out, they can WhatsApp me. I have an Instagram page, Harmonic Egg North, a Facebook page, and the mobile number is on the website, so they can ask away. Ask me the questions.

Claire, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. I really do appreciate it. And to anyone else that's listening that wants to know more all about the Harmonic Egg, I will leave all of Claire's links in the show notes for today's episode. So just have a look underneath this episode, you'll see there's like a description basically all about about it. So I'll leave all the links in there, and then you can go and follow Claire on socials, send her any messages that you might have, let her know what you thought about this episode. I really would appreciate that. If you have enjoyed this episode, please don't forget to like, review, subscribe, whatever it is that you do on podcasts these days. I'm not down with the kids. I really do appreciate all of the love, the shares, the support. So if you can, please share this episode with a friend or a family member that you think might need the Harmonic Egg in their lives. You can do this via sharing on a Facebook group or a WhatsApp group that you're part of with like-minded people. That tends to be the best way to get the message out there. But thank you so, so much from the bottom of my heart for listening, and I will see you all next Friday for another episode. Speak soon, guys. Bye!

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