My Full Workout with Chris Bumstead [6x Mr. Olympia Champion]

If you asked mj, would you rather peace of mind or a seventh ring? You'd say a seventh fucking ring.

Talking about different objectives. What is yours? Be racial. Trying to train some legs. And I'm going to Mr. Alex Harmozi's gym. A bunch of old broken men that need a lot of warm up.

So we're doing legs.

What's the plan?

All right, you want to just alternate? Like, we'll go, I'll go one direction.

You go the other way.

Singing Deceptively heavy.

I'll do whatever you do.

I want to go.

Yeah, let's go.

What's the heaviest you get in the off season?

270. The heaviest I've ever been. I kind of stopped trying to push food right now. And I'm going to slowly bring it down from here because I mean for.

You to keep winning so you don't.

Need more size, right?

I have a little room. Do you ever hear like two pounds?

Okay.

And I can always like be leaner and I keep putting on weight and I keep making weight. So yeah, we just keep it working. Jesus.

I could have warned you all.

Now it's a counterbalance for Russian weight crawl. Okay.

Come on, deep breath, use your breath. Come on, keep going.

Yep, easy came out the top of there for some. It's counter intuitive that once you succeed at bodybuilding, everything that comes with the success of bodybuilding prevents you from succeeding in bodybuilding. Yeah. If you like speaking and guest posing. Yeah. Like traveling, podcasts, whatever.

And not wanting to wait till you retire to start a business and all this shit.

Well, I don't think you should.

No.

Like starting a business when you, when you retire is like no one cares anymore. We definitely forced growth. We post, we do 450 posts a week.

How often do you film that? Get.

Every day. Every day. No, so we used to. It's like it's changed over time. Before, in the very beginning, it was once every 90 days. Every one full day, really. And we do like 100 clips. Just that. That was it. Yeah. And then it switched to every other week and then it became Fridays. And then now it's like, you know, I think I'm better if I'm pressure and I do fewer more. Yeah. And so that's what.

Or something like in the moment.

It's exactly what it is. It's basically like Daniel message means like we're ready if you feel like stepping away at any time. So I'm doing my shit in the morning. If I like lightning strike, I go down and I talk about in his health of mind. I gotta ask.

Done any seminars in there with no one in the crowd and filmed it?

Yeah, no, I did, because why? The team there, but, like, had this theory. I do better live at live things than I do in front of the camera. It's just more, you know, interesting. And so I was like, can I approximate that? So then we did the whole setup. We did the presentations, the stage, and then they set my teens out in the audience and I gave the presentation. But it's not the same.

You're not talking to empty chairs, but there's.

You still mostly empty chairs there. Seems to. Can't fill a room.

Yeah.

We opted out of doing that. We did it like four times. And then when I was done doing it. Yeah. And so then I started doing Instagram lives and that was way more, like, fun.

Yeah.

Also because it's like the room's got 2,000 people in it or whatever, you know, so that's nice.

I mean, if you can present in front of a empty chair, that's harder than a crowd.

So. Yeah.

Right.

It's just the on light. Yeah. I had this tweet that went kind of viral. It's like, if you're like 16 to 25, like, just get in shape.

Yeah.

Like. Cause once you're in shape, you can stay in shape, but, like, you have the time and you'll get different priorities later. Yeah. So it's like, just do it then.

You have all the time.

Yeah. I'm grateful that I. I was obsessed from 15. I started when I was 14 until I stopped computer. I was 25. It was right around when I started my new. I was 23, but I guess it started. I stopped computers when I first.

You're 23?

Yeah, when I stopped.

Yeah.

Got my state record. Not national.

Fair enough. There's 50 states, I think 23 when I dropped. No, 22 is when I dropped at a university. And that's when I started doing it full time.

Were you like a junior senior or something?

I was there for four years, but on my second year of school. So you. You lift.

But I was jacked. You're.

But that's a lot.

Napping, which in your actual life, that is all that matters.

Exactly. Yeah. It paid off.

Yeah. What are you thinking to do, lift weights for a living? You're like, actually, yes. That sounds great.

Yeah. It literally would spend four hours in the weight room and then, like, be in the cafeteria all day.

Right.

That was life.

Right.

Yeah.

Are you the only member of RAW Athletic Club?

No. This is our public gym.

Oh, is it?

We just opened it like six weeks ago. It's attached to our warehouse.

Where your private gym is?

No, my private gym's away from there.

This is in Nashville, Florida. It's in Florida.

We're partners in Nashville with Carbon Culture. Maybe that's what we.

Oh, no. Carbon Culture. Yeah.

Yeah.

I worked at the gym. Yeah. Does he do some of the formulation stuff?

He's actually our partner in the call in the business. He used to own the manufacturer, and then we partnered with them to get pricing and help on our payment plan and all the bullshit.

Yeah.

Because I knew he did that. I remember I got connected his location operator, when I went in, knew who I was, he was like, you should talk to our owner. And I was like, ah, you know, whatever. He's like, no, he's, you know, blah, blah.

So I was like, fine.

So I think we had a phone call or something. Yeah. Yeah.

He's a really good guy. He's smart.

Yeah, I know he sounded that way because I was. When I was getting in the settlement business, he quoted us for manufacturing.

Oh, yeah.

He was one of the. I think his final three bids.

We ended up going another company, but.

Probably should have gone with him. All right, Bulgarians. Yeah. So we've got. I've got this thing.

You got a proper pad?

I do have a proper pad.

Fancy.

I usually set up next to this pole here. Just have something to balance on.

Use a dumbbell or.

I. Yeah, usually I just grab a dumbbell.

How do you do it? Yeah, but I just never held on to something.

Oh, well, that's how you cheat. That's how you do it.

Exactly.

Here, I'm gonna put a little bit.

Of music on because we have a sound system.

All your silence.

Well, that's kind of nice, hearing you pant. I'm gonna try it out.

See, you're my inspiration.

Sorry?

You're my inspiration. You'll be like, what motivates you? And I'll just be like, this guy right here.

Asshole comes in my gym and lifts more than me. Yeah. That's the motivation of this.

I used to really like barbell lunges. Like, they used to tear my glutes up more than anything back when I had glutes.

They're great. Walking lunges are incredible for leg growth.

You can load them.

You're such a. To do.

Like, I left this whole quarter empty for that.

Yeah.

For walking on. Just because Lalo doesn't.

Because Layla's hardcore two plate walking lunges.

Yeah, that's the biggest. I did 225. 225. I was. When I was strong and young and that's what I was eating. 6,000 calories a day. I just was like. I read this thing. It was like, insulin's the most anabolic hormone. And I was like, done. And so more food. There's an Layla that I met. She used to make me a box of pancakes for breakfast. It was a cake. I do half a thing of syrup and I pass out again. And then I wake up, I'd work out. I'd have a 1200 calorie shake. Then I'd have a burrito, double me double rice, sour cream chips on the side, guac. And then I'd get back home for dinner, and I'd have one box of pasta and one jar of tomato sauce. That's because the box pasta. 70 grams of protein. Yeah.

I eat pasta a lot.

I digest it great.

Yeah, me too.

And rice. I do really well with basmati rice. I could just eat unlimited amounts.

Can you still eat like that? No.

I can talk about it though.

Yeah, I eat like out. Like, I go to like a nice restaurant. I have a steak and then like chips and something, and I'm like, oh, my stomach.

All right, you want to do sidebacks? Oh, oh, oh. Starting to feel it. Like gluteus.

Yeah, I haven't done those in a long time.

With the split squats. Yeah. So usually when I do my warm up, I'll do this guy.

This?

Yeah, not for this. I mean, I'm poor, but I'll do that guy and I'll do that. The hip flexor one, like multi hit down gluten. I actually do this up, like up here. But I think I needed that mobility stuff more than the shrink.

Honey, you probably could argue that if you took 20 minutes out of your workout and pike, like constructive mobility, you'd be better off.

Well, I mean, I did way more weight than I normally do, so. Yeah, that alone.

Yeah. Literally today especially.

So I put. I put one rule for the whole gym is that this machine keeps four plates out always. You want five?

Yeah, I think so. You ever plan on leaving this building or is this like home?

Is this for the next 3 or 5?

3 to 5.

I like Vegas a lot more than I think I've liked any city I've.

Lived in as an adult.

It's just like. It's a non judgmental city. Everyone pretends to be something and they come to Vegas and they like, let their real selves out.

Yeah.

And I just like being here. And so also it's not political because it's for tourism. So it has to be just neutral producer. So it's not political at all. Which I like. It's great for traveling in and out. Everybody I know comes to Vegas once a year anyways, so I could see. Honey pill, if I lived in Cincinnati, I would never see you.

Right.

So I get to like, I benefit from those. We have direct flights everywhere out. Four hours from the beach in the mountains.

Yeah.

30 minutes on the lake. We've got the best student dining and shows in the world. It's tax free, it's dry. Which I personally like. UFC's here. It's their old building.

I mean, it's a perfect setup for this.

Yeah.

Dice, you don't need like warehouse space too.

No right.

To deal with that bullshitting.

Right? Nice, Nice.

Those little quarter reps. Oh, yeah. Just your time under tension is crazy.

Because you can't skip through the weak parts. It's like. That is the weak part, right? Yeah, well, yeah, it's interesting because now you have this balance of like, I want to push, but like the risk reward of pushing goes down a lot. Literally. Cuz like you really just want to maintain on as little effort as possible or a little risk as possible.

It's hard.

Especially cuz they added weight cap to.

Everybody in my weight in my category except me. I got like £2 and everyone else got six to eight.

Why?

Just because I was unfair. People were complaining that people at the height of 6:1 had an unfair advantage.

Like statistically or something.

No, people were just complaining because I was the only one in that category. So that happened and then now everyone got better. So I actually have to improve and.

Like fine tune it. But I'm also like the most old.

Broken guy in the category.

So I also have to be the safest.

Yeah. Well, it is interesting from like an investment perspective. That's like risk adjusted return.

Yeah, like the same thing.

If you're at fifth place, you should take all the risks you can. Because if you fail, you lost nothing. Because no one cares.

Literally, if you win, it makes all the difference.

Exactly.

I've always found it so interesting of repeat champions.

Huh?

Like, and most of them are like, I mean, Michael Jones, everyone's quite confident, but he's not happy. He's a miserable motherfucker. He just found some way to continuously drive his way in a miserable fashion. Yeah. And people look up to that and they want to be that. And I'm like, he didn't do it.

Right.

Yeah. Well, he did, but he didn't. Right. It's just like my goal is. My goal would either be happy and have peace of mind.

Yeah.

Rather than. Yeah.

And I think. And I think if you asked mj, would you rather peace of mind or a seventh ring? You'd say a seven fucking ring. Oh, yeah. So I think, yeah.

Ronnie Coleman, would you rather be able to walk or have nine titles? You'd say nine titles.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's where like you zoom all the way out. And it's like making a judgment on anyone else's goals in general is stupid because their goals aren't the same as yours. Yeah. So I would do it different. No, you're different. Like, I had somebody, a family member, tell me they were like, I would never live my life like you. And I was like, no shit. And I would never live my life like you. Which is why you have your life and I live my life. And good thing is you don't have to live mine and I don't have to live yours. It's interesting about how you define champion too. Like, I had to think about it like a year ago, I was like, do I want to be the richest man in the world? And I was like, no, I don't think that's my goal.

So then I was going to ask you that while you're talking about different objectives, what is yours?

Honestly?

I want to.

Is it just be rich as possible?

No, no, no, it's not. I see wealth as a measure of my personal growth.

Yeah.

Because I see entrepreneurship as the most quantitative path of personal development. It's more I want to be the richest man that out to become not the richest man in the world. Now if that happens to become the richest man in the world, cool. I'm not against it. Yeah. But me measuring my wealth against other people's is not the right game for me.

Yeah.

But me measuring my wealth against what I believe I can create is a game that I can compete in and will always try to compete. And so me seeing like a really hard thing for me was when we sold gym watch, my monthly cash flow, cuz I was an owner, went to zero. And I was like, that's a mind. Yeah. So I was like, all of a sudden, even though I had a bunch of cash in the bank account, I felt poorer. So I was like, okay, this is weird. Oh. And so I had to like recalibrate. And that's why I had this year where I started making content about like the meaning of money and like, all this stuff. Yeah. That's when I had to redefine, like, what, where am I the most? Where do I grow the most? I grow the most when I work hard on things worth doing. And so then it was like, how do I orient my life in a way that I maximize the amount of hard work I do on things worth doing? And then once I saw what those days look like, I had a mentor of mine, my first boss ever. I'd had, like, a really good week. And I was like, that was like, probably one of the best weeks I've had in my life. And she was like, not a profound person. She was like, I'm pretty sure the secret of life is living as many of those days in a row as you can. And she. And it was such a tactical, Like, I was like, so that's what I'll do. I'll think, what are the days that I do my best and how do I live that day? As many times in a row as I can. And that's pretty much just the path I've been on. And the stuff that has occurred has occurred. But that's at least how I think about it.

And your path of feeling, like, best days are wealth building for our personal wealth building, not, like for yourself, but your own goals.

It's usually me creating stuff. And so, like, my arc happens to be business related. So, like, I draw, like, my books are picture buzz. I draw pics about business, I write books about business, I make videos about business, I make podcasts about business. Like, that's just all I think about. Yeah. And so, like, if I happen to do that about, like, electric cars, no one would care. They'd be like, oh, he's passionate about it. It's just that I happen to be passionate about something that makes money.

Yeah.

But it's all I think about. I almost am more interested in business than I am doing business. Like, my days, I only do do business hardcore, one to two days a week. The rest of my days are making things that help other people do business. So, like, me, like, doing this. Is this doing business. I mean, we make media. Yeah. You know, but like, also me working out with people that I care about that I enjoy is on my list of things that I do on my best days.

That you enjoy. Yeah.

And so I respect that.

I feel like a lot of people now are almost like, there's just so many opinions out there of, like, what's right to the world rather than to themselves. Like you said, when what's like A champion. I had this thing when I was young, I said I always talk about champion mentality and I had no idea what it meant and I began to define it. And now I need to consistently reiterate that it's my definition of what a champion is. What is a champion to me is that the true only thing that a champion does is they make their own rules.

Yeah.

Because they don't give fuck what other people think. They just do whatever they want.

I agree.

Doesn't mean I'm winning. Doesn't mean nothing. It just means I'm doing whatever the fuck I want and I'm doing it the best I can.

And so like for example, if they change the rules of the game for you that in order to win you had to, I don't know, fucking kill your liver, something. No, I'm just being, you know, like whatever. Then you would have to make the decision, do I want to win by their rules or do I win in my mind. Exactly.

And I would leave.

Right. I think that is the difference between a champion who wins for the approval and a champion who wins for themselves. Yeah. Is that if they change the rules, if your vision of what a champion is no longer aligns with the third party approval, then you don't do it, you don't play. And I think there's a lot of wisdom in choosing what games to play. Sure.

Not feeling like you have to?

I never want to feel like I have to. Oh dude. My number one rule in life, like I'll do everything in the world to not have to do anything. So fun story about cabs. So you don't know this about me, but I trained cabs every single day for more than 10 years. And I developed tendonitis in my foot from doing so many sets of calves. So I did seven sets of 20. And then your cab shown, no bike cab just still apply. But they were, they were. I had a girl that I did, it was like, why don't you train your cads? And I was like, I trained them all the time. And so then I went from three days a week doing them at the end to doing them seven sets at the beginning. As in my cab fear. But this, I haven't trained cabs right now. Like me doing this with you is the first time I've trained cabs in like probably a year. Really like literally haven't done any reps. And it was because I caught tendonitis. I, I like, I like I was struggling walking cuz there's some muscle in like the base of my foot. It's like under my big toe. But I'll do this cuz I have the champ in town.

So of course maybe now you'll stretch and train calves again.

Yeah, all I have to do is I have to stretch my C down.

Oh, this is a really good calf machine.

Yeah, so. So that's the thing is like I hate the load but I love the way this, the lever is perfect. Perfect, dude. So you don't have to put a lot on it either. No.

The range of motion moves so much. Yeah.

My calves are going to be crippled just from doing like three sets. They're going to be smoked.

Yeah. If you don't train calves, they get.

Oh, you're destroyed.

Yeah.

The donkey calf over there is what built my cabs and standing single leg off a box.

With his body weight.

Yep. Yeah, I started doing, I did them years ago. It was one of the things that like broke through my calf like growing. So it's funny, it's like I, I don't train chess anything last time because I just always had a decent enough chops.

Yeah.

But like if someone is like doesn't know how to grow calves, I'm like, I can tell you how to grow calves. The biggest thing was super deep purity notice but like super deep stretch.

Yeah.

And so what I would do is I do like 20 or 30 reps body weight on one one leg off a box underneath of a pool slow bar. And then once I reached failure, I would start counting and so then I would do assisted negatives.

Yeah.

Or like you know, assisted positives. And like the level of pain that like, of like cooling yourself to the full flex.

Yeah.

When you're just lower. Oh yeah. And then you like let it down and you, you really make sure that you get that last little. Yeah, that last little bit. I was like, I did it with clients once and I, because I had just discovered this technique for myself and I like could barely walk and I did it with these ladies who I was training. They came in on. So it was like Friday, they came on a Monday and they were like, they like couldn't, they're like I couldn't go to the dance this weekend because I couldn't put heels on. They're like literally could not walk like. And so I felt accomplished.

Job well done.

Yeah. I felt like I did something.

Yeah. Fucking just like control. Negatives are such a secret to making anything grow. I'll do those. Like I'll go up with two, two feet and then lift one foot and then lower down, like, same concept, but.

Yeah, somebody gave me a cue that was trying to get your shoelaces perpendicular. Just like your foot. Just because you're there. Like, perpendicular. Like.

Like it.

You can't really do it, but like. Or maybe ballerinas can. But like, it's like. So how's being a dad, dude? It's good.

It's chaos. It's good. It's chaos.

It's not right. Good for sleep, horrible footballer.

But now we've got help at night now, which is like, oh, good. The biggest cheat code, man. Like, my wife is a saint, so she handles, like, the.

The hard part of all. She not competing anymore?

No, she stopped in 2016. She won the Olympia in 2016. And then she kind of had some health issues and then just.

Kids are a champion breeding stock.

Yeah, they are.

They choose to be. Layla gathered to 3:15 for reps in ill. I'm just, you know, I'm just putting out there. Yeah. You good on this? You can do one more. You're doing more. I'm gonna. My cats are gonna. I already know they're gonna be cooked. All right. Don't worry, Daniel. I know you wanted the shot. There's the shot. Still got it. I'll give you a lefty. Not anymore. I have tendinitis in my fucking toe now. The old man. Excuse the old man. I'm gonna do the hip thing because I. That was the first time I've done legs in a while that I was not it.

With no pain. Yeah.

Because I do my warm up to get to like a 2 out of 10 pain. I'm like, whatever. Yeah. But that was like a 1 out of 10. Like, I had some more.

How many warm up sets you normally.

Do of the actual. I just recently started doing, like three proper. Yes. And that helped a lot.

Yeah.

I was just going straight and I was like, this is horrible.

Yeah, that's brutal.

I feel like it was like my muscles are just tearing off. Like, it just felt horrible.

Yeah, no, there was, like a lot of actual science behind even just your nervous system turning on with proper warms and everything. Your muscles are literally already even activating until then.

Yeah, they're. Yeah, they're just like, what's going on?

Yeah.

Please don't do this. Nice.

Okay.

Oh, easy.

This is so sweet. It's the best C machine ever used, dude.

It's good. This one's sweet because you can have the full stack. This is where I. I built this and the. And standing single leg are the two.

Things that, like, built My calves.

But like this guy, like all the way up and it's just like. Yeah.

Who makes this?

This is Nebula.

Nebula, yeah. Where'd you find this?

Not only hard to find, I used to have all these dealers that I have, like, on speed dial. They're like, kind of serious. I don't know. I like the way this feels.

It feels really good. Give you a crazy stretch because they're bent over.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's one of those ones where when you put weight on it, it like, feels even better kind of thing. You do 400 pounds and weights on top? I did when I was at my peak.

And you're a big boy?

Yeah, when I was a big boy. Yeah. Yeah. I had this 100 pound plate that I had. But I haven't done cads in here, so we'll see. Two of my calf tankers still, like, probably.

Beth. Calvin's gonna make a Machiavelli motivation video of you after this. Nice.

Yep. Yeah, that's where I like, smoke those. Yeah. This also goes up too, so you can adjust the. So this. Yeah, so you can go up a little higher for. Cuz I was on Layla setting.

Good luck there.

Yeah, you know, I like. I mean, it's a big piece, but I tr. I mean, I train on this every day for real time. That and the single leg are the two things that I did for my cat.

Did you have all this equipment somewhere else before you moved here?

Yeah, my. My house in Austin, I had. Had. I had like half the. I had everything. I had about half these pieces. Do you want to do something else? My legs are cooked, but I can do whatever. I'm with the champ, so.

I mean, we can do a little quick quad extension call today. Okay. Unless you're cooked. Cooked?

No, no, I can do quads.

Like, zero rest, back and forth.

People are like, you're taller than I expected. It's like, thanks. Because Trevor. Dr. Cash. You know him anyways?

No.

He's like, you have short guy proportions. He's like. So on camera, he's like, you look like you're five' five. Yeah, it's too much. My legs are actually super short, which is good for like, leg moves. Like, I have super short femurs, really long torso.

Are they good for squatting?

Yeah.

Did you pull sumo or conventional sumo?

This guy. I pulled conventional server on my back and then I switched to sumo and I hurt my hips.

Yeah.

I was £100 weaker on sumo than conventional. I could do so much more volume on sumo.

Yeah.

And so that Kind of made up for it. But weirdly, my deadlift made its biggest gains. This is gonna sound insane doing one set of 20 a week like your.

One rep max did.

Because I did the same. I did, like, the pilot pin chart and, you know, like, five, three, one. Like, I did all of the low rep, like, three sets of four, all the tradition. And, like, my deadlift didn't move for, like, three years. And I was like. I was, like, competing in, like, carrots. Yeah. I was, like, so upset about it. And so then I'm like, fuck it. And so I don't know if you know Juggernaut JTS Chad Wesley Smith.

Okay, well, he was the powerlifting world.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. So he was. Yeah, he was being the powerlifting world, like, football training and stuff. And so he had this thing called the Jug Jug method. This is like 10 years ago, and it was all this super high rep stuff. He basically took Wendler's 531, which is a powerlifting program, and just, like, tripled the bullet. So instead of like sets of 5, 3 and 1, it was sets of, like, 20, 15, 10. Yeah, but, like, am wraps. I basically ignored everything in the program, but the deadlifts was, like, 20s. And I was like, well, I'll do that. I'll see how that goes. And I just. I just did sets of 20 and I added 10 pounds a week, and I did it for like 16 weeks and added like 160 pounds to my 20. And I was like, so does your.

Wandering max go up to that?

Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I'm guessing because I was close to my one rep max on my 20. True. Yeah. Yeah.

So hopefully.

Yeah. So, like, the end of it. I did, like, I think I did. I have a video of doing, like, 465 for 20. Jesus. And then I was like, this is stupid. That's enough.

Oh, yeah.

And this is when I was eating.

Like, the 6,000 calories a day thing, the burritos.

Oh, dude. I was like, you know, Milosh is the one who said, like, there's no such thing as over training, only under eating. And like, I will say, as a natural guy who did that, I feel like I can kind of attest to it. Like, I drink a lot of volume.

How old were you?

25. Yeah, I mean, I feel like when.

You'Re 25 and under around there, you.

Can do it everywhere.

I live at a gym.

I was a gym owner. I left the gym.

Yeah.

And I trained. That was all I did. I ate and I trained. That's Literally all I did when I was doing that, it was eight hours.

A day of food and training.

Yeah. I've decreased my loading, increased my warm ups, everything morally proper. And I'm just in more pain.

You said you do more warm up, less volume and you're in more pain. As I used to. That sounds right. Yeah. So that's what I was doing. I did the 20 rep sets for deadlift and I was doing three sets of 20 on squat and I got up to four or five for 21 barbell back squats. For squatting or squatting, I was, I was 235 natural. That's big. I mean that's a for natural.

That's still a lot of.

And, and then I benched. So bench has been my biggest natural lift. Like built a bench. Every time I touch the bench, it blows up. And so I don't bench, which is why I do it. But for the six, I only did it for six weeks. I put 35 pounds on naturally. I have the pictures.

What was your 20 rep max for bench?

So I hadn't benched in like a year or two. This.

Yeah.

But I did it for this 95 for one. And I never like, I didn't put a. Yeah. Anything on there. It's like I think the week of, I did like 335 for seven sets of five. Like six weeks.

Yeah.

But, but I like, I. Because I only had that in that one lift. And then I just know that there are guys who had that on all their lifts.

It's just like that's my worst lift.

So it's your bad.

That isn't the horrible, horrible bench. My 1 rep max ever was 415.

You were probably bodybuilding bench. I was like powerlifting benching.

Which is.

Yeah. Six inches. So when you train, I mean, do you, do you have programming that you follow?

This year is the first year I've ever fallen the program.

I love that. Like that confirmed. Like, it's so confirming.

I mean, you know, in your field there's an art to being good.

Yeah.

And you, it's you. If you think you need to follow a perfect program. Yeah. If someone took everything I did or someone who took everything you did and did it again, even if you did it.

Yeah.

But you were following a plan instead of just doing it naturally, you wouldn't be here. Yeah.

It's really interesting because the hardest thing to develop is intuition.

Yeah.

Like how can, like when, when you're like, I got it today. I'm gonna, I'm gonna Gas it. Like, can someone teach me you that? I don't know. I mean, I definitely know, like for work, I have seasons where like I gas it, you know what I mean? Where I'm like, I'm working 16 hours of taking every stimulate I know of and like. And I'm like, not getting as much sleep as I showed back and just keep pushing. And then there's some days where I like wake up and I'm like, no, not today. Yeah. And so I was, I put it on my, my profile. I was like, I don't have like, I work like weekdays, weekends are all the same for me. So basically I wake up. If I feel good, I work. And if I wake up and I feel like shit, I change the nature of the work I do.

Yeah.

So it's like, if I don't feel good, I'll play more meetings, I'll take more calls because I'm not like, I'm not gonna be doing deep work. Yeah. But if I wake up and I'm like, dude, I could cure cancer today, then I'm like, all right, let me write a book chapter or let me script out like a, a presentation or something that's like really deep. And I'll just tell the team, like, cancel some of my calls or move them.

Like, I'm gonna be in the zone today.

Yeah. But I also imagine over time, whether consciously, subconsciously, you know, that like when you wake up on those shitty days, doing certain things that you can at least do at the right capacity will put you back into a place where you feel good.

Oh.

Whereas most people are like, I'm gonna take the day off, they don't feel good. And then next thing you know, it's been a year and they've taken a whole year off.

What's up, Julio? I'm glad you came for Legs because legs is what, like I can push on upper body.

But like, I hesitated. I was like, girl, I want to ask someone to train legs with me. And I was like, ah, it.

We're not trained with you.

I got the hot spot. Okay.

You guys know Sebum? He just tied it on to with some of the drinks. The Sebum cans are his his.

And then you get this probably even more than I do, but like the.

Generic hey, big guy.

Like, hey, Jim's that way or whatever the.

Yeah. No matter what someone says and you know, half the time it's some sort of left handed compliment or whatever, I just say like, just trying to catch up to you, bro. And so it doesn't matter what they like. I've had so many people who like.

Said something mean and I'm like, just.

Trying to catch up to you, bro.

And then they're like, ah.

Being dick, you know, and that, that's always been my, my big counter. Yeah.

For some reason I always get people like, are you like that C bum guy? And my response is just, no. But I get that all the time. And then like probably 50 of the time people are like, oh. And then I just walk away.

That's it.

I'm also equally awkward and antisocial. So if someone comes up and like, do I know you from somewhere? I'm like, I don't know. Probably not. And then I just leave.

Not from somewhere. So training wise, you just train by.

Feel and you just consistently add weight when you can.

I have a program now.

Well, every year.

But yeah, until now I was pretty like consistent in what I would do. And your movement, I just knew in my brain. Yeah, I know like my top movements. When I started for the incline chest dumbbell press, it's fifth pendulum squat. If it's the bent over rows, I'm like this much. So I'm going to do this much this week. Yeah, yeah.

And you just work to like, I'm going to add £20 to it or £30.

Yeah, it was for a while it was like, all right, I'm going to do this for six and then I got eight and I got 10. I'll put a 25 on. I'm back down to six and eight and then 10.

All the stuff that I know is like stick to a handful of lifts, don't do a lot of variations. Slowly I'd progress it, you know, reps or weight.

Right.

But then like I just noticed that I had less motivation to train and so like I was more prone to skip days and things like that.

Yeah. And like this was.

Today was harder than I would normally train my legs. So I'll probably like, it'll probably my like I'm supposed to train legs tomorrow.

Yeah.

So I was just like, I'll probably.

If you train like tomorrow, I'd be impressed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'll just like, I'll skip that.

And maybe I'll skip a second like because it's every other day. So I would have trained legs tomorrow and two days from now. So I'll probably just skip the next two and then hit it again.

Like if you don't have that flexibility, like if you were in town, I'm.

Like, oh, I'm falling like why bother? Like, you know what I mean?

Like, I've had people.

There's like three, you know, fitness dudes who have, you know, falling. So whatever. They were in town, I saw this kid who's like, not a competitor, who's like, I'm following a program.

And so all the dudes are lifting, all the big guys are lifting together, throwing weights around, and he's like, sitting Indian style inside. Like, I'm falling.

It's like, dude, you're missing the point. Yeah.

Like, you're not going to get.

Be like 40 and be like, man, I'm really glad I followed that Progress. I was 22 and, you know, training.

With those guys and then going home, being fired up about training with them will result to your lifts going up more, too.

Right.

The motivation you get from that will be more.

Oh, so much more.

Yeah.

Like.

And the memory and, like, all the positive experience that come from it. Do you listen to music when you train? Yeah. What do you listen to?

It varies. Alternative rock, Eminem, Kanye, West 90s, hip hop.

Yeah, I have more or less the same stuff. I'm not a music person. The only time I listen to music is when I train.

Yeah.

And so I, like, so bad that a friend of mine from high school gave me this CD. It was rap CD 1 through 6. And I uploaded it on my ipod. And then, like, I went through all of college, and then we were hanging out a couple years later. He's like, so we live, you know. What do you listen to now on your train? I was like, this. That you made me. And he was like, the what?

And I was like, yeah, the one that you made me. He was like, in high school. And I was like, yeah, rap CD1 through 6.

I still listen. He's like, dear God.

He's like, dude, there's been things that have had. He's like, Eminem's had two CDs since then. I'll make you a new mix.

Spotify. By then you just still have an ipod.

Like, I've got a Zune.

Yeah. I didn't even have one of those.

It's weird because Now I'm turning 35 in, like, a couple months in August. And I was like, I am like. Like, when I. Before I turned 30, I was like, young and successful, and now I'm just a white dude.

Yeah, I felt that, too. I was like, Holy, you're only 25 and you won the Olympia. Yeah. Now you're like, all right, you're the old guy now.

Yeah. You're just. Yeah. It's.

I'm just a guy.

Yeah.

What's interesting with like, with the Olympia in terms of like competitive landscape and whatnot, is that like in the game of business, everyone is a competitor. Like everyone's in the game. It's just some people don't know it. And that's what I find kind of interesting about like the business world is like you compete against the world and it's global.

Yeah.

And you compete against guys that are 90 and like, like, like you can't age out.

How old is Kendall Jenner?

She, she became the youngest self made billionaire and then they revoked it.

They did. Like she wasn't actually.

Or.

Yeah, the numbers weren't what, she overstated some of her numbers. Like nine months later, after she got into all of the pr, after I had gone into a deep seven day depression because of how inadequate I felt as a result of.

Compared to this little white girl. Yeah.

No, I mean it was actually like, it was actually, weirdly, it was a, it was a, it was a career defining moment for me.

Really.

It sounds ridiculous to say. When I saw her on the COVID of Forbes at 19 years old as a billionaire, I felt like a failure.

I, I did.

Yeah.

I was, I was 20, I think I was 26 or 27, I can't.

Remember what it was.

And I, I taken home $17 million in income that year and I was.