126: Your Entrepreneurship Dosha with Sahara Rose

Namaste, it's Sahara Rose. And welcome back to the Highest Self podcast, a place where we discuss what makes you your soul's highest evolvement. Today I'm going to share with you an interview that a friend of mine, Angie Lee, did of me. So you're going to be able to hear me being interviewed on Angie Lee's podcast. And I, I really loved this episode because it was on a topic that I'm so passionate about, which is entrepreneurship and Ayurveda and how I believe the two are inherently linked together. And by knowing your unique dosha type, you can be the entrepreneur that you are meant to be. So this episode is all about how the doshas are related to different types of leaders, business people, et cetera, and how you can get past whatever the blocks are of your dosha to become the entrepreneur that you were meant to. So even if you have no experience as an entrepreneur, you don't even know if you want to be an entrepreneur. This episode is for you. It really opens up your eyes to see how we all are born with unique gifts, unique skills. We all have incredible things to share and we just have to focus on our strengths. We shouldn't be looking around us and see what other people are doing. It's all about what you are here to do, what you are called on this planet to achieve. And this episode is going to help you find that. And I also want to share with you that I am launching my new abundance mindset masterclass. Yes, I am bringing you a masterclass all about abundance because I have done two podcasts now about abundance, Financial self care and adapting an abundance mindset and they have been two of the most popular episodes to date in our 100 plus episodes. So I know you guys want to hear about this stuff and are really resonating with how I'm teaching it because I look at it from such a different lens. We see a lot of people teaching about money. It's all about. It's only about the money. It's only about how can I make more dollars. And for me, it's. It's not about that. I actually don't care about cars, don't care about clothes, don't care about shoes, bags, fashion. None of that stuff is important to me. But for me, what money is for is to make a larger impact, to be able to help people. I shared in my financial self care episode that I with changing my relationship with money, I was able to create more revenue in my business and for the first time, truly become financially free beyond Free, abundant. And with that abundance, the first thing I wanted to do was help people and give back. So I had heard about this incredible organization called Cambodia Children's Fund, and I had met the founder. He was giving a presentation at this conference that I went to and I saw the videos of the people that he was helping. Thousands of people who live in literal dumpsters in Cambodia who get Hepatitis C and so many diseases because of all of the bacteria and the poor hygiene and it was just so heartbreaking to see. And he essentially created this organization that takes those kids out of their dumpster, puts them into school of full on school where they can live, are fed, cared for, and also takes their families out. A lot of the parents are drug addicted. They have dealt with prostitution in the Khmer Rouge genocide. A lot of the grandparents were killed. So they help the grandparents as well. And in fact, they have two types of sponsorships. One that is to sponsor a child. So you are able to sponsor a child for $150 a month and you pay for not only the child school and food, but also for their whole family to get out of the dump. And also they have a grandmother sponsorship program where you are able to sponsor a Grandma that's only $50 a month and you are able to help the grandma. Because a lot of these grandmas were abandoned. Their families didn't want them. And these grandmas preserve the ancient traditions that were essentially stripped away from them in this genocide. And they pass along the ancient roots of the Khmer tribes for thousands of years to these children. So the first thing I did when I made money is I sponsored a child. And now, more recently, a few months later, I sponsored a grandma too. And I shared about that, the child on my podcast, the first one I did. And this beautiful woman, Laura heard about it and she, she was going to go on a yoga teacher training in Thailand and decided that she wants to go to this exact organization in Cambodia and visit it. And she did that. I'm going to share with you the interview I did of her. Very, very powerful. But she went to Cambodia and she saw those children there. She sponsored a child that her friends had sponsored. She took them out for a day and just loved these kids, just gave them love. She said she had never seen such an incredible organization and just how much they care. And again, this is not sponsored by them. They're a nonprofit organization. But I share this with you. So when you think about entrepreneurship, it's not about yourself, it's not about how much money you can make and what you're going to get out of it. It's about how much you can help others. That to me is what is the most important thing about all of this and why I created the Abundance Mindset Masterclass is because a lot of us are not able to truly help people because we are in lack ourselves. We are going through our own financial burdens that make it really difficult for us to share and help. And I genuinely believe you are never too poor to help someone else. If you even have $2, you have a dollar to share. But again, I understand how the fear comes in when you're not able to pay bills that the last thing you're going to do is sponsor a so this is why it's important that we talk about this stuff. We talk about abundance, we change our mindset about it and we reshape our framework with money. And more importantly, we create businesses that fulfill us on a soul level that help the planet, that are providing services and goods that elevate vibration. But also we can use some of that revenue to help others across the world that don't have access to this kind of stuff. Like if money is for one thing, it is currency that we can use to support the causes that matter to us. And that to me fuels me up more than anything else. And that is my big why. So if you want to shift your relationship with money, please join my Abundance Mindset Masterclass. The link is in the show notes of this episode. You can also find it on my website iamsaharrose.com we are going to be doing a live webinar at the beginning of November. So please sign up by then so you can make it on the webinar. If for some reason you're listening to this episode months later, we're going to run it again in January. So even if it's months after November, but please still sign up. But this masterclass is going to have the potential for you to lead to a small group 6 week guided program where I help you learn how to create your online business, how to have a funnel, how to do the marketing, how to look at your own blocks of what's holding you back from creating your business, what's holding you back from having a strong relationship with abundance. All of that stuff, all of the things that I had to learn, I am here to share it with you. It is my honor, it is my duty, it is the thing that has changed my life. You know the first thing that I had to take care of was my health. And then after I took care of my health. I had to find my purpose. And after I found my purpose, I had to figure out how I'm going to create a lifestyle around it. So that's what I'm sharing with you. And again, it doesn't matter if you have a business or not. You're going to gain value from this, the program. You're going to have people who have mentored me, people who have created businesses for people like Tony Robbins and T. Harv Ecker. I'm talking that big. They're going to be live on the webinars answering your questions about programs and funnels and what software do I use and how do I monetize it. What kind of program should I start off with? All those questions you have, we are going to answer it. We're going to be live on the call with you answering it with my mentors and it is going to be such a life changing experience. So please, please, please, if this is at all calling you, the masterclass is $35 nothing, the price of a yoga class here in LA and it could be the very hour that changes your life. So please head over to my show notes iamsaharrose.com Sign up for the Abundance Mindset Masterclass. It's going to rock your socks off. You're going to have the best time and I can't wait to chat with you live on the webinar. Also, I'd like to make my book tour announcement. I will be coming to several different cities not just to share my book but to have a Bollywood dance party and hug each other and talk all about the doshas and relationships and business and self care and everything in between. My book launch events are so much more than me just talking about the book, but it's really a way to create community and to have a lot of fun. So come join me October 12th in LA, October 17th in New York, November 30th in Miami and I'm going to be going to San Diego sometime in between. Then head over to my website eatfeelfresh.com book. I'm going to be adding some more cities so head over there so you can stay tuned. And I'm so excited to meet you in person. So in this interview where Angie Lee is interviewing me, we talk about my journey, what brought me to Ayurveda and how the Doshi wishes are related to entrepreneurship. So I'm really excited to share this wisdom with you. I hope it resonates with you on a soul level. It opens your mind and inspires you to Be your highest self. Without further ado, let's welcome me being interviewed by Angie on the Highest Self podcast. I basically make ancient wisdom modern and accessible.

When I first started following you, I thought that you would be. Yeah, this girl's probably, like, real expensive, serious, and uptight.

Every day I have, like, my song of the day, and I also text it to my mom, and she's like, yesterday was Indian sitar, today Fat Joe. She's like, why you can't make your mind. I'm like, that's why you can't make your mind who I am. I'm Fat Joe in an Indian sitar.

Is that your mom's voice?

Absolutely.

Oh, my gosh. Why is she not?

I can just do the whole podcast like this if you want.

Oh, my God. So growing up, did you have a strict upbringing?

No, they weren't strict on me at all. Like, my parents were immigrants from Iran. So, like, in terms of money, my dad had a lot of money but was really cheap. And my mom was like, the housewife who didn't have any money. But also, like, was like, oh, I'll take money from your dad and give it to you. So it was like this very, like, polar opposite.

Yeah.

Like, I remember my first memory of money.

Yeah.

Was like, I was at the ice cream store with my dad and my brother, and normally my mom would take us, and we would pick whatever we want. And then my dad's like, okay, what flavor do you want? Oh, my gosh, I'm dying.

Have you ever seen SuperWoman on YouTube? Do you know what that is? So she always makes fun of her, her Indian parents, and, like, she literally uses this voice.

Yeah, totally. So I was like, I want vanilla with sprinkles. My brother's like, I want chocolate. Rocky road. And my dad's like, well, a small is 179. 179. But if you get a medium, it's 210. So we'll save, like, 60 cents. So you better pick one flavor and you share it. How about coffee? Because I like coffee. You can just have mine. I was like, no, I want vanilla with sprinkles. And he's like, I want chocolate. And then my dad's like, if you can't decide on one flavor, no one' getting ice cream. And we couldn't, so neither of us got ice cream. So I learned early on that if you don't have the money, you can't make the decisions. But at the same time, I had this belief that, like, money makes you really stressed out. I remember always, like, seeing my dad, like, just so. Just angry, paying bills and like, almost feeling like, you know, these bills, right? Like, he had. He had a lot of money, but he was so unhappy all the time. So I went down this road of, like, screw money. I'm just gonna live my life. And I started volunteering with NGOs all around the world. So I went to Costa Rica when I was 15 with an NGO, and I lived in a prison, and I was helping the orphans whose moms were incarcerated. And then I went to Nicaragua. I built a community center there. I went to Vietnam. I was teaching the people with Agent Orange. Deaf, mute, deformed. How about, like, workers rights? I was basically volunteering all over. And my goal was to become an international human rights lawyer. And, you know, obviously didn't happen.

You know, not in here.

Yeah. But. But I always wanted to help people, and that's what I knew. And I thought that the way to help. And I knew I want to help a lot of people, not just one on one. So I thought the best way to do that was to get into, like, law. And then I went to school at George Washington University, the best program for this. And I was studying and I was so unhappy because I saw at these NGOs, like, like, people weren't actually being helped. You were raising money for the fundraiser, for the next fundraiser. And there was no contact. I was like, where are these people that were supposedly helping? And I didn't. I was just stuck in this office.

Wow. And what is NGOs?

NGOs means non governmental organization. Yeah. So basically any, like, charity, essentially. Rights organizations like that. Amnesty International. So I became super depressed and I actually left college and I went back home to Boston because I was like, I don't even know what I want to do. Like, I spent my whole life wanting to do this and it's not working. And at this time got a super bad eating disorder. And like, just like, you know, when you lose control about everything in your life. So I became super fixated and obsessed with food at this time. And I decided the healthiest thing I could ever do is to become a raw vegan. So I became a raw vegan.

I love this story.

Yeah.

Just eating broccoli all day. Yeah, Dry.

Exact broccoli. And I lived in Boston, which is.

Like Antarctica, which is so cold and dry and.

Exactly. So you're from Boston. Basically. Yeah. So that's why I'm real.

No, that's why I'm real. Chicago walked in. Oh, no, it makes sense. Okay.

So we just have great baseball teams. No. So I was a raw vegan and a few months into it I started to just kind of feel dizzy all the time. My hair was. No, nothing. My hair was falling out in pieces. People would come up to me and be like, are you okay? And I was like, oh, it's cuz I lost weight. But it was, it was not a compliment of kind of. I had lost £30. I was £88.

What?

Yeah. So I was just, just I looked like a ghost, a walking ghost. And I remember being at the gym and I was obsessed with working out and I would faint and then I would like try to go to like the bathroom and like try to vomit or something to like get. So this was like a really like dark point in my life. But I wouldn't listen to anyone because again I was using this like raw vegan facade of like, I'm actually healthier than all of you because I'm living, I'm eating, living exercise, I cook my broccoli. Obviously my body was not working and I didn't have my period for two years.

Wow, that's not good.

So at this time I was going back and forth to India already, not for Ayurveda, but to volunteer teaching health and sanitation in the slums of New Delhi.

So you've done a lot at a young age. Wow.

Yeah, so. And I was raw vegan in India, which is like unheard of. They would call me like the cow because it's like that was the only thing they've ever seen eat like raw greens. And while I was there I was like, I was just so sick all the time that I decided to go visit the local doctor, which is an ayurvedic doctor. So Ayurveda is the ancient Indian health system and it's the world's oldest health system. It's a sister science of yoga based off of mind body balance. So I had heard of it before and at this point I had done IIN Institute for Integrated. They mentioned I heard the word before, but honestly I thought it was like a psychic or astrologer or something. Like really weird. Yeah, I was like, whatever, I'm in India. And I went. And instantly she's like, beta, beta, you too pretty to not have babies. I was like, what? She knew that I was infertile. My body had gone through pre menopause when I was 21 years old. Instantly could tell. And basically all of these problems that I had been going to doctors for, for years. IBS and my digestion Anxiety and insomnia, my bones always getting injured. All of these issues that I had were all interconnected as a vata imbalance, meaning I had too much air in my system, which is. Yeah. And it's also caused by eating only cold, dry, raw foods.

Yeah.

So basically this diet that I was doing to be super healthy was actually making my body shut down. And she had told me, if I don't stop, I'm on the path towards infertility. Well, already was infertile, but Alzheimer's and osteoporosis, my gosh, at 21. Yes. So that was like a big slap in the face. But the suggestions that she gave me were like, eat ghee and lentils and rice and all of these like super Indian cooked foods that like a raw vegan would never want to eat. So I was like, kitchery, kitchery, basically for the rest of my life.

So good.

But at that point I was like, no way. So I kind of threw it away. Tried paleo, sibo diet, Gaps diet, everything you can imagine. And nothing was working. No doctors to get to get to the point of it. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna give this Ayurveda thing a shot, but make it in my own modern way. So maybe instead of rice I'll do quinoa. Maybe instead of ghee I'll do coconut oil. And like, maybe I'll add in avocados. There's no avocados in India. And just trying to make it more modernized. And once I started doing that, not only did I feel physically better, but also mentally better. I could sleep, I could make a decision, breathe, like, yeah, things, you know, and eventually got my period back, my hair grew back, looked like a normal person. So I immediately got the download, a download essentially like a glimpse of information that I need to write a book about this. So I signed up for Ayurveda school in India, ended up going to school for two years in India. Writing. I had never met an author before, but I just wanted to write a book. So I just decided to call it Eat right for your Mind Body Type. And I incorporated Ayurveda, the vata pittsikapha, which we can talk about with ectomorph, mesomorph and endomorph and how they're interconnected and just like kind of like looking at the science of like the gut, brain connection, etc, and how does it have to do with Ayurveda? So, long story short, because I know this podcast is about business and not about health.

No, they Love it too, though. They're like, keep. I can see them being like, no, keep it out.

Yeah. Okay. So, well, basically, I ended up writing the whole book. Paid to get a graphic design edited. I want to be super, super visual, like, for the online reader because I know people don't like to read words anymore.

What was your dad saying at this time? Is he like, you are crazy.

What are you doing? Why are you not engineered? My dad. My dad has three PhDs from MIT.

Oh, so do I. That's cool.

Yeah, no deal. Like, next.

I did him in like a year or two, if he wants to talk about it. Yeah, I have the opposite of 3 Ph.D. exactly.

Like, he. They're just like, if you. You don't exist. If you don't have. Have postgraduate education.

Like, so this was very rebellious of you.

Well, this is not even. So I'm studying this. I'm staying in India. They're like, when the. Are you coming back from India? And I'm like, I don't really know, guys if I'm gonna come back, because at this point, I was like, so done with, like, malls and consumerism and all of these things. And I honestly wanted to be Gandhi. I was like, I just want to live in India, you know, be with my people here, meditate, live the life, eat fruits from the trees.

Is this where you met Deepak Talk?

No, I met him here in the US in la. But if I had not lived in India for so long, we would not have the connection that we have. Because he's also from Delhi.

Yeah.

So this is where, like, got really real. And this is actually where my entrepreneurship was born from. Because before that, I really had no entrepreneurial desires. But at this point, basically was so bad between my parents and me of like, you need to get a job, you need to get focused, you need to get serious. And me being like, no, I'm writing this book on Ayurveda. They're like, what is Ayurveda? No one knows about this. You don't have an agent. You don't know anything about this. And I remember them very clearly saying, a writer is like a starving artist. You're never going to make it. And they were like, get realistic. You think you're J.K. rowling. You think you have something other people don't have. And this is very much actually like, the immigrant mindset of the immigrant mindset. Do what's practical. Do what's going to make money. And like. Yeah. And it's like, when I look at Maslow's Hierarchy, it's like, you know, the beginning is, like, safety and survival, and then it's like, needs, and then it wants, and then it's. The top is self actualization. So I'm here trying to get self actualized where. Whereas their, like, needs and wants, of course.

Well, you can't blame them almost, right? They're trying to breathe and make sure you're safe.

Exactly. So it got so rocky to this point that eventually I came back from India, but it was constant fights and my dad just getting, like. Like, really verbally abusive at this point, being like, you're a failure. You're a loser. I wish you weren't my daughter. I want nothing to do with you. And it got to this point that I was like, okay, okay. I would. I would actually go back and forth of, like, kind of asking people around who are like. Because then I went to Bali, and I was like, do your parents know you're here? Like, what do your parents think of this? Like, I had this, like, thing stuck in my head that, like, only if you had hippie parents could you live life to yourself. But people with, like, educated parents have to be educated. So it was this, like, in between. But all the advice I was getting was like, follow what you want, but it's so different to get advice and do it yourself. And I basically got to this point that I was like, I'm okay to not have a relationship with my family to do. To write this book that I don't even know where it's gonna go, but that's how. All in. I was like. And I basically told them. I wrote them a letter from Bali. I was like, maybe we're never gonna talk again. Like, it was great being raised by you, but, like, this is. This is it. And obviously they freaked out.

Of course. Yeah.

And I also dropped my phone in a waterfall. I didn't have a phone for a few months. And. Yeah. So I was, like, living in a rice village, writing this book.

Oh, my God, this is so cool. I love it. I would. I'm like, if you were my daughter, I'd be like, do it.

Live life. But, you know, maybe this drive also came from them saying not to do it. That I really feel like the reason why I'm so strong today is, like, if you can get to the point of, like, being dead to your parents, you don't give a shit what other people think.

Shit. I love that. I'm so glad you're saying that, because that's a huge message right now. I have a lot of really young girls who listen to my show. And I want them to know that, yes, you are the daughter of someone, but you are also your own person. And not only legally when you're 18, but cut the cord. Cut the umbilical cord. This is your life. And it's a very trippy moment. It hit me at about 25, and I have a great relationship with them, but it hit me that, oh, my God, this is my life. They're not gonna be here forever. And this is. I have to live out what I have to live out. And I think that's a really cool moment that yours came to you maybe in a more difficult way, but you realize this is your life, right?

And I think the universe provides you with whatever experience that you need to listen. And maybe for me, it took like, sobbing on the floor, crying, God, do you even exist like that level for me to listen? Because if it had just. It had come in nudges before, but I wasn't listening to it enough. And I didn't have examples. I had never seen anyone do something like this. But then I went all in. And guys, for now, this is four years later. My parents love what I do and are so proud of me and are like, look, my daughter write ayurveda book, like, bragging to their friends. So, guys, your parents, honestly, your parents are testing you.

You.

They're testing you. Because if they can sense a quiver of uncertainty in your voice, they will question that because they know then you don't really have what it takes to make it. You don't have that level of tenacity. But if you're so sure about it, it's like your parents want you in their life. They're eventually just going to accept you, but then once you do it, you change the game for what they believe is possible. And now my mom takes philosophy classes and goes African drumming and is like, opened up this whole spiritual world and, like, sees that. You know, I'm. I make. I'm the first woman in my family ever make money. Like, it's such a.

Changing the lineage, right?

Like, both of my. My grandmas were in child marriages. One of them 11 years old. So it's like, changes what they believe. Now my grandma goes to unplug meditation. So that's why you have to believe in yourself so much, to literally shift the ancestral and bonds and lineage that all of us, you know, all of our grandparents have gone through World War II and. And poverty and this and that. And we don't realize that we actually still have that in ourselves. And we are re going through those same experiences but on different scales. And when we can pass through that, we just heal the whole ancestral lineage.

Yeah, reprogramming fear. And I feel like it's our responsibility to do this for our daughters and our sons. So then they can say, guess what my mom did, Even though no one thought she could do it. And then he's going to tell her his son, and she's going to tell her daughter. And then that's how life works. And that's your gift to this world, is maybe you. You reprogramming the lineage of what was possible. Maybe that's really what all of this was in addition to the work you're doing.

Exactly.

I love this. And okay, so you're in India and then you write this book and the next thing you know, it does really well. And yeah.

So the book ended up. I ended up finding a literary agent, got rejected by 30 publishers and happened to be that Penguin Random House was looking for someone to write the Idiot's Guide to Ayurveda. So I didn't call this one book the Idiot's Guide. It's actually like the part of the series of idiot's guides to like gardening and mowing your lawn part of that. So they were looking for someone to write the book. They had someone four months in who had quit and you normally have six months to write the book. So they happened. There are no coincidences to call my literary agent and say, we're looking for someone to write the Idiot's Guide to Ayurveda. Do you happen to know anyone? Which is like, literally, guys, the most random topic ever.

Get out.

So she was like, yeah, I do know someone. She's pitching her first book. They're like, I don't know, we want like a doctor, blah, blah, blah. And they were like, well, let's put you guys in contact, see what happens. So they were like, okay, if you were to write the table of contents, what would it be? You have one week that day. I was literally like, boom, this is it. I channeled source. I got that shit done and I sent it back to them that day. The whole, you know, it's a 400 page book with like detailed paragraph by paragraph. And they were like, okay, if you were to write the first chapter of the book, what would it look like you have a week to do? Do it the next day. Wrote that first chapter. And then they hired me. And then I was like. At first I was really excited, but then I was like, oh, now I just got myself in this situation where I'm trying to sell my book, Eat right for your mind body type. And now I have to write this whole other book and I can't have a sentence be the same because of copyright laws. So now I'm gonna have to really learn about Ayurveda because how many ways can I explain this one subject without repeating myself?

Yeah.

So that actually brought me way deeper into my knowledge of Ayurveda from like the digestion, the food and the self care into like, like the spirituality of it. And like what is this really about? And in the book I talk about, you know, finding your dosha, what's good for you, but like why? And like the, you know, the energetics behind it and the spirituality and writing that book so very much deepened my spiritual experience. You know, when you're writing through something, you're going through it yourself. And that book came out, it's now but the bestselling Ayurveda book globally. I ended up seeing Deepak Chopra at a conference, walked up to him, walked onto a stage, introduced myself to him and he ended up writing the forward to that book. This book is like a close mentor of mine. And yeah, and now I'm just, you know, I'm always just looking for the signs of like, where to go next.

Yeah. What did you go up and say to him? Hello, hello, sir, are. I heard you're a big deal. Kinda. Anyways, do you want to write my book?

I have always loved Deepak. Started reading his books when I was 12 years old. So I had always loved him and I always had a dream of meeting him, but I didn't know it was going to happen. And I actually met someone off Instagram. We ended up going to meeting at this conference called Yoga and Science Conference and he was not supposed to be there. And then I remember it's lunch break and I'm like literally so boredom in my chair. And I'm, because, you know, I, I don't need to learn about the science of yoga, I just do the yoga. So I remember saying in my head, oh my God, this could only get lit right now if Deepak Chopra walked on stage and they're like, it's time for lunch. Oh, and here's our sponsor, Deepak Chopra, and he's like, hello everyone and like walks off. And I just knew like, this is your chance. Like if you don't walk up to him right now, you're probably never going to see him again.

Yeah, this is Deepak. Where does he live?

He like, is everywhere. He's like, in a new country a day. And I literally just walked up to him, I walked onto stage. He's talking to someone, I just stand next to them until he's done this.

What, five years ago, four years ago?

No, this was like a year and a. A year ago. Like last, last May. It happened so fast.

You grabbed your lady balls and you're like, this is it.

Yeah. And I already finished writing the book, so I was like, basically like, I wrote this book in its guide to Irvine. It's published by your same publisher paying Random House. And this book's going to bring, you know, Ayurveda to the masses. You are the person who introduced Ayurveda to me. So it would only make sense at first. I told him just the quote and he basically was like, just send me the book and I'll see. I sent him the book. He's like, what's your phone number? I was like, oh, my God, my phone number. This is like the voice of God right now. And I talked on the phone and he's like, what are you doing tomorrow? And I was flying.

Nothing. You're like, nothing?

No, I was flying back to LA and this was all in New York. And he was like, I'm going to be in San Diego. Can you come to my event? And I was like, yes, because I was going to be in la, so.

I was getting my nails done. Deepak.

Yeah. So that next day I flew back that I literally just drove out there that next morning and I went to his lecture. And then afterwards he, you know, really interrogated me with like three people. Just wanted to know everything about me and what I'm doing. And then he was like, yeah, we love you. We want you to be faculty on Jayo, his organization chief teach at the Chopra center and would love to write the forward of your book and just literally just like offering so much, but it was because one, I had done the work.

You showed up.

I showed up. I had done the work. Do you know how many people I get? We were just talking about this. I get people like, can you write the Ford? I've never, I've never written a book. No, I had done the book, gotten a publisher. It was a good book. It was gonna. And also, you have to think what's in it for that person? You know, for him. He's gonna also reach an audience of like 20 year olds who don't know who Deepak Chopra is.

Now you've brought back relevancy for him.

Exact. So for him, it's a. It's a win. Win for both people. And I think people need to know that when they're messaging influential people, because now we've been on the other side of that. When it comes from this place of need, when it comes from this place of I'm inferior to you, that Energetics will set up this. No. Because he. Do you know how many people every day are like, deepak, you're my Lord and savior. I love you.

You came from an empowered place of, I'm going to be brave. I'm going to raise my hand here.

Yeah.

And ask what I. For what I want, which I love. But you were prepared, and you said, and God, spirit, whoever brought you to him at the exact right time, no sooner, no later.

Exactly.

And you were prepared and you came to him with confidence.

Right. And I mean, think of how many. Think of how many times. Like now sometimes I'll, like, you know, when you see someone at a party that you, like, know from Instagram and. But you don't say hi because it's, like, weird. I'm like, wait, if I could go up to Deepak Chopra, I could go up to this person from Instagram, you know? But it's like we lose these moments that, like, look, I went up to you at Lori Harder's thing. If I had. So glad. If I had it, then we would have never talked. And so I think people, we are presented these opportunities all the time, but it's free will. Are you going to say yes to it or not?

Yeah. I love that. That's one of my biggest messages, is just asking for what you want, raising your hand, picking up the phone, and having that scary conversation. The worst thing that could have happened is he would have said to you, oh, my gosh, thank you so much. I wish you the best on this. And you'd been like, thank you, that's great. But at least you went to sleep knowing you tried. But it ended up being such a beautiful experience for you and probably one of the coolest moments of your life. And you're so proud that you're you. Oh, what up there?

I mean, it's such a game changer for everything that I've done since.

So fill us in about the Doshas and then how they relate to business, because I had no idea they relate to business, but I'm super excited, so. Because I have too much fire. So we gotta get the fire out of this.

So the Doshas are energy types. They're essentially archetypes and they're Part of Ayurveda. So when I say dosha, think archetype. And there's three of them. Vata, pitta, kapha, vata, pitta, air, pitta, fire, kapha, earth. So if I was like, angie, I'm dating this guy who's really airy. What do you think?

He's like Louisiana flake ball. Just doesn't show up. Super spacey.

Right. But he's probably the creative of an ad agency, right?

Yeah, he definitely is writing music and is the creative at an ad agency.

Exactly. So that's vata right there. Now if I was like, I have this friend who's so super fiery.

He's probably a speaker or also a creative. Really passionate. Maybe he's loud, he's extroverted.

Okay, we got the pitta. And if I was like, I have this friend who's really earthy.

I see this guy laying in the grass. He's a yoga teacher. He has a few really good friends. He kind of talks like this. Maybe even.

Exactly.

I see all these people. People.

Exactly. So. So we see them.

I get them. Yeah. Now I understand them after learning.

Right? So vata, airy. We even have the words an airhead, a space hat, space cadet. We have the same words in our language. So airy, fairy. They feel like you know the friend who you're talking to them, but they're like definitely thinking about something else. It's like almost like they're just gonna like float away into their thoughts. So they can be forgetful, they can be all over the place. They're that friend that every time you talk to them, they're like, yeah, I'm actually gonna be a life coach. And like the next time you meet.

Up for coffee, I'm gonna be a surfer.

Yeah, I'm gon for her. It's like, oh, I'm gonna be a shoe Smith. It's like, what do you, what do you. I mean, I used to be one of those people. So I totally freaking get it.

And we all have all three. I want to say all three.

And we also have different phases in our lives.

Okay. Okay.

So like my like living in Bali, 23 year old self was super, super vata. But that's why I was experiencing the physical imbalances of it, which we'll talk about a lot of anxiety, A lot of anxiety. But the good side of being Vata is you're really creative. You know, if when you have all of these thoughts and all of these of the space in your head, you're able to think of thoughts. You're an idea machine. You're able to see things like I like to think of vata as like the bird seeing things from like the higher frequency. Whereas everyone's like stuck in day to day life and they're kind of looking at things like in human design they say it's like the projector. So that's sort of what vata is like. Creative, energetic, More like enthusiastic, a little bit quirky. But also when there's too many thoughts in your mind that can lead into a tornado and that's when the anxiety and the insomnia ends up happening. And then the mind is related to the body. So when it's happening mentally, it will happen physically. And that turns into feeling cold and dry all the time is a good indicator having a cold and dry digestive system. So that looks like bloating, literally. Air, gas, air constipation, cold, dry colon.

Yeah.

So if your poop looks like deer pebblets, that's vata going on. So bloating, gas, constipation, turning off all cycles. So if you have a very far space apartment menstrual cycle or no menstrual cycle, that's related to vata. Very dark menstrual cycle as well. Again, cold, dry. If you get like cracking joints all the time, you feel like you get injured. Often vatas in the skeletal structure. So they're weak. Yeah, you're weak, you're skeletal. I'd like to think of the fall season. You know, you have those type of qualities. They're like the wind, wind brittle, ever moving. Sometimes you're really enthusiastic and other times you crash. It's, it's unpredictable. You can't predict the way the wind's going to go. That's how vata is. Now pizza, on the other hand is the fire. So fire is goal oriented, it's passionate, it knows what it wants, it's hard working. It's like that friend that you're going to hang out and they're like, I'm going to send you Google Cal from 310 to 453. Please, please accept.

Yeah, okay.

And then the like 24 hour confirmation that our Google Cal is still happening. Okay, my assistant's just going to email you a third time to confirm.

Like that is, that's like not me because I'm okay. There's where I get the more vata I'm just like, we show up when I show up.

Yeah. So that's when you know you're not 100% Pitta yeah, so. And a lot of entrepreneurs are. I mean, it's great. They're really so. Pittas are very fixated on time. They love time. They are always knowing what time it is. They always in their mind lines. You can ask them what time it is. Any time of day, they'll know. Oh, like in this conversation, they are keeping track.

Okay.

Pittas are very, very present. So when you're very present, that can lead to you getting a lot done, but it can also lead to, you know, when someone cancels. Your Google Calendar didn't hit. No. You freak out. And they end up becoming impatient with people. They get agitated, they get angry, they get irritable. It's like that guy honking at you in traffic. You're like, I can't move.

Sorry. Too much pitta.

Yeah, that's a major pits and balance going on. So, you know, life. Pitt does love to control things, but you can't control everything in life. And that's where the imbalance shows up. When things don't go as planned and they can't handle. So it's that heat, that goal oriented, passionate drive turns into the volcano of anger. And just, you know, they're so present that they don't realize what those people have done for them before and what's gonna relationship's gonna be like after. So they'll explode because they' thing about that moment. So there's, you know, anger problems. That's. That's what it is. That's a severe pits imbalance. And Donald Trump is a really good example of an imbalanced pit. Too much fire. I mean, he's dyed his hair orange. Like he's trying to let us know. He's like, guys, help me out. Leafy greens, coconut water. Mail it over to me. You know, my address, the White House.

Only you would bake that.

Yeah, he's like so pit and balanced. And you can see, you know, he's obviously a great business person. He's obviously great at manifesting. Like he freaking became president. It's amazing. If he wrote a book on manifesting, I would so buy it.

Yeah, yeah.

Obviously good at delegating tasks. We can't deny that. But as a human being, he's super in his ego. Us versus them. Using fear tactics. Can't take a joke. The fire is just so unsettled.

He needs your book.

Right? Needs my book. If anyone has any connections.

Donald, if you're listening, Donald.

Caging Donald. Whereas Jennifer Lopez on the other side would be a balanced pita. You know, she's Fiery, she's fierce. She's got her Latina fire going on. And it's even interesting culturally. Like, in Latin culture, women want to be fiery, whereas in Western cult, woman want to be vata, airy, spacey. I'm so skinny. You know, fashion models, it's like the most vata body type. Whereas in Latin America, it's all about how much fuego. Like, that's sexy, you know? So you could be jla, you could be Donald Trump. Choose your side. P does they had a baby.

You could be whatever that is.

Yeah. Oh, God.

Oh, God, that's gross.

He'd be like, I'm going to deport myself. Like, half of him would be on one side of the.

That's the weirdest couple ever.

Ever.

Weirdest car ever.

So basically, in the body fire, heat, they feel hot all the time. They're sweating. In Ayurveda, the digestion is called a fire. It's called agni. So when they have too much fire, your stomach basically throws too much stomach acid. So you get acidity, acid reflux, heartburn. Literally your heart is burning. So we have the same language in English culture, a hot head, all. All pitta. So if you're feeling sweaty, hot, acidic, rashes, ulcers, rosacea, anything that's red and inflamed is pitta. And globally, we are going through a mass pit to imbalance all of the inflammation on a individual level is leading to inflammation as a planetary level, which is why we're going through so much war, chaos, gun violence, etc, because it's really just inflammation. Because when one person's in a bad, bad mood and you interact with them and then you interact with the next person, it's like a ripple effect.

Of course, course.

So then lastly, it's kapha. So kaphas talk a little bit more like this and they'll look in your eyes for a long time. Yes.

The yoga teacher.

Yes. Om Namashibaya. So all my yoga teachers. Yeah. Even right now, they have all the.

Time in the world.

All the time in the world. They do the podcast like this. God, I wish I. I was like. And then breathe for a few minutes and stare in your eyes for a little too long and hug you for a good seven minutes. Not a hug. It's not seven minutes long. Heart to heart, though. Heart to heart.

Oh, my God. I meet those people in Encinitas, California. I'm like, can we go?

Let's go. Yeah, I know. I'm like getting stressed out talking to them. Yeah, but that's Also right. I mean, good quality. It can be both. So Kaphas energetically don't have a good grasp on time. They take they. I mean they feel like they have all the time in the world, which can be really beautiful. So they like to take things slow. They like to go at their own pace. They are like pitas have all this like drive and energy, like for what, you know, they just like to take it as it is. A Kapha person would be better off doing the one on one coaching because they can sit, they hold space, they can listen. They are empaths. They can connect with people. They are calm, loving, understanding. Think of Oprah energy. So it doesn't mean you're gonna, you know, never get a job. Oprah is like the Kafa. Deepak is a Kapha.

He is.

Yes, he is.

Are they usually introverted?

Usually. Most of the healers. My, my property, natural born constitution is also kapha. And you can, I can go into this telling about the shape of your face and stuff. My personality is not kapha. But as a kid I had a lot of. I was very shy, calm, you know, just.

Yeah, sweet little girl. Your body and your head could be two different things. I read that. Is that correct?

It can.

Okay.

So because of, because of imbalances that.

Are like vata pitta pitta, you can like exactly.

Your, your mind can be different. So Kapha people, mentally calm, loving Oprah energy. You know, think of Oprah, she's like you in a car. You in a car. Everyone gets a car. Like they love to give. That's actually how they get off. They are natural born nurturers. But in this giving, giving, giving. Just like the earth gives us resources, oil, gas, whatever we need. And then you just take, take, take. It ends up feeling depleted. So Kaphas are seem like they're the happiest all the time, but are the most likely to suffer from depression. And Robin Williams is a good example of this. You know, he was making America laugh and no one knew that he was, was clinically depressed. Yeah. So Kaphas really need to learn about one speaking their needs.

Do you think he was a Kapha?

For sure. He has a very Kapha body face.

Everything about how you're studying all these things that are happening in the world.

Yeah. Everything can be reflected back into the doshas.

My God, that's crazy.

Yeah. So he had he very Kapha personality. But again with Kaphas, they feel like if they're not making everyone else around them comfortable and happy, then they're not going to be like, loved. That's really what it comes down to. They get their reassurance for making everyone else around them okay. So if they're like, hey, I'm feeling off, or hey, I need your help, they feel like that other person's gonna run and they don't want to get into that space of confrontation. So they take it out on emotional eating and then, you know, sometimes even self harming behaviors. But what ends up happening is we take on energy all the time. So when you take, take, take, you end up storing it somatically in your body as fat, of course. So Kaphas end up feeling, feeling heavy, grounded, stuck, lethargic. They end up gaining weight, particularly on their hips and their thighs. Earthy, grounded, bringing them lower.

Issues letting go.

Exactly. Issues letting go. Hoarding. Thinking about the past. So Vata's futurist, pitta present, Kapha past.

So each one has a good thing and a bad thing to it.

Exactly. You can be balanced or imbalance of any of the doshas and you can have imbalances going on of two doshas at the same time.

Oh my gosh.

Cancer is an imbalance of three to doshas, so it doesn't mean you're just one. This is like a very. People are like, I don't know, I can't decide because I can't relate to just one. You, you're gonna relate to all three on different levels. We have our prakriti, which is our natural born constitution, which is like the deck of cards we were handed with. And then we have our vicar tea, which is what we have now. So for example, I was actually born primarily Kapha, secondarily vata, lastly pitta. Now my personality probably comes off more pitta.

Yeah.

Than vata. Lastly kapha.

Yeah.

Why? I had to make a conscious choice. I had to, you know, really step up into it. But also, since I have that kapha background, I don't need to sit in a meditation every day to get grounded because I'm already pretty grounded. In fact, for me, I need to get up in the morning and exercise first thing because Kaphas need to always stay moving, always stay active. If I don't, if I let myself have a month off, I'm not going to exercise, I'm not going to go back, you know. So that's why a lot of times, times Kapha people can either get obsessed with weight loss and dieting and exercise because they feel like they're gaining weight so fast, or they totally let it go because they feel like it's not working.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh, that's fascinating. So then how do these apply to business?

Yes. So this is what my next book's about. I don't have the title yet. I'm thinking Ayurvedic Entrepreneur maybe.

I like that.

So I actually kind of got this download while I was public speaking somewhere about intuition and business. Business. And I realized that every business process is vata pittsikafa. Vata is the idea.

Like the masculine and the feminine energy. Right. We're seeing some correlation. No, no, okay.

Vata is the idea. It's the download. It's the brainstorming. It's that, huh? Imagine if I did an event. You know, it's still up in the air, it's not tangible. And then you start, you know, playing with a little more. Well, where would that event be? Or what would people actually come and what would it look like? And you start. Really, it comes. Moves from space into air, into your brain. And then you vocalize it. Throat chakra. Also moving through the chakras. If you guys know what chakras are, you vocalize it. You'd call your boyfriend, hey, I'm thinking about doing an event. He's like, huh, sounds cool. Now you feel it. It's in your heart chakra. Oh, my God. This event, I could do this. It's like, it's here. It's almost here. And then you put in the pitta, the work moving into solar plexus, which is the action, the digestion, the transformation. What are the phone calls I need? What are the emails I need? What are the things I need to put this into practice? You're executing, you're taking action, and then you. Sacral chakra, you're experiencing it, the pleasures of it, the juice of it. Root chakra, chakra. You birth it and it's into reality. But in this place of birthing kapha comes the reevaluation of, what could I do better next time? Is this even what I still want to do? Maybe I don't want to do an event anymore. What could be improved? And a lot of entrepreneurs skip this side because they're like, it worked, so let me just do it again. And they. And they stay in the pitta and they're doing, doing, doing, not asking themselves, why not reevaluating and not resting and nourishing themselves too. Because it's like your best idea doesn't come to you when you're like, up against the wall trying to think of the idea. It comes when you take snack.

Oh, so glad you said that. Yeah.

Yeah.

So all the shower when you're naked.

Yep, exactly. Yeah. I think I saw your Instagram.

Like, I get my best ideas always in the shower. My ideas, all of them. Because you're.

You're naked, you're connected to nature, you're connected to source. You're just in your primal energy podcast idea.

And I just write them all down.

So. Exactly. It's the cycle. From the Kapha comes the vata again. The idea comes from that deep space of rest.

So that's important that I'm doing that very vital.

If you don't do that, you're going to. You're going to keep on doing things. That's how we enter the rat race of, I don't know, I'm. I'm doing it making money, you know, making money. Why is it where I want to be going? Is this who I was? You know, even with online programs, I tell entrepreneurs all the time, is this program even who you are this year? Because we are changing so much that the program that you shot yourself doing last year, maybe that's not why you want to put out on the Internet anymore, because you've changed so much. Yeah. The easy ways. I could still monetize on that. But is. But are you going to spend your whole life monetizing on something you made five years ago? It's like you have to keep growing. The cycles have to continue. If you don't, you actually get an imbalance in that dosha. Yeah.

Wow, that is fascinating. So you're applying it to. Are there certain things that we could do as business owners? So let's say I have too much fire, too much pit on my business, and I'm driving it more from that state. The doing. I kind of correlate that to. It feels masculine energy to me a little bit. That fire, the anxiety. What would you say for another woman listening? I feel like a lot of Pittas listen to my show. They are just really go getters. Drive, drive, drive. Hustle, hustle, hustle. Make money, get it done. And they need help, and we need help balancing that out a little bit and taking that time to sit back, reflect, create space. And I am noticing recently what is happening is I am getting a very strong calling to create more space and have more. What Kappa. Right. Kapha. Because just too much of Pitta or just creation makes me me. I mean, eventually you just burn out.

Exactly.

And then that's what causes anxiety.

Exactly.

This is where even as an entrepreneur, I need to realize that I need to play in all three and strategically.

Exactly. So you need to find what dosha you're lacking in. So if you are very vata, you're super creative. Ideas come naturally to you. Maybe you have a hard time with execution, though, you know? So work on now bringing it into pitta. Bring it to the next stage, take one of your amazing ideas and just execute on it. Because an idea is only as good as. As people can see an experience. Now, if you're very much in the pizza and the execution, how can you give yourself that space, that nourishment, that grounding? So you can then say, okay, is this really true to who I am right now? And that's that constant renewal. It's the spring, you know, it's kapha is the spring. It's life. It's a baby being born. So you need to come back into that state of, what can I bring new sprout, new into life? And to do that, you know, you have to become pregnant with that idea. You need to take that step back. So that's what you're doing is very intuitive of you to do, to take that step back. Connect with nature.

Yeah.

Literally walk on the earth, ground yourself, and then ask yourself, you know, there are a million ways to make monies, guys, but are they the ways you want to be making money? I love that because there are so many. You could be an affiliate for other people's programs for the rest of your life, and you might make a ton of money, but when are you going to make your own program? You know, and to make your own program, you have to really be clear about it. To be clear about it, you have to take a step back from it. You have to look at it from fresh eyes. And you have to look at who, first of all, who's the person I want to speak to today? And there's too much of the what does the audience want? Don't ask what the audience want, because you'll make your own audience ask what you want. Ask what are the gifts and the skills that you uniquely have at this present moment that you're also excited to teach? Because also what I find is people are teaching stuff they've experienced 10 years ago. They're not enthusiastic about it anymore because it's also so like, you know, I healed myself from this eating disorder 10 years ago, so it's like they don't care anymore. Whereas not saying you should be fresh off of it, but there should still be a passion there. Not you're just Doing things because there's.

A system in place and you have to. Or you think you should, or your parents.

Exactly.

Should.

And, you know, even moving past, like, so many entrepreneurs are just like, I don't know, I'm just like, I meet so many people who are in food and they want to move into life, like life coaching and that sort of stuff, but they feel like, I don't know, I've never done that before. And it's like that's when you have to take a step back. Like, I'm going to Bali by myself in two weeks, for two weeks, just to, like, write and think. And if I.

That's amazing. Yeah.

And if I don't do these types of things regularly. Yeah. I can just keep creating content. Is it going to be next level? No.

When does it end? Yeah. I'm noticing that a lot of in entrepreneurs, a lot of successful entrepreneurs are noticing that they hit this place or this spot where they feel that they. On paper, it's everything, but they still don't feel how they want it to feel or not what they thought it was. And I've had many elements of that over the last few years. And so I'm taking a step back just to say, okay, what do you really want to do? And that's where the event came from. It just was that question. I believe that we become better entrepreneurs and humans and we ask ourselves those really scary, awkward questions of, what do you want to do now? And it was like, oh, I want to have an event. I don't want to launch another course. I just really don't want to right now.

Exactly.

And yeah, it would make me a crapload of money, but I just don't want to do it. I to want. I want to do a live event. And so I think that's really the process of taking a step back to move forward. And that's so necessary because I don't think a lot of entrepreneurs are doing that. I think they're just moving forward, moving forward. Got to make money, got to keep going. And newbie entrepreneurs, too. I want you ladies listening to know that that's important as well. You deserve to take a step back every once in a while and say, what am I doing? Why did I create this course? How could I make it better next time? If you don't ever sit back and implement, you're in the rat race for sure.

I like to think of, if you look at Starbucks, that's a very kapha business. Why is it different from. From Dunkin Donuts or Whatever else, because it's all about the customer. What do you want? How do you feel? Oh, do you want grande fente latte? They make it so personalized. And that's that kapha touch. It's making it personalized. It's the connecting, like what you're doing, connecting with every member of your audience. That's actually your kapha really coming through.

Yeah.

Of like really wanting to be there and understand. And people who have a lot of kapha, that's their superpower. So if, you know, scaling and public speaking gives you the heebie jeebies, you actually don't need to do it because we don't have. Have any desire. You have means you do have the capability. But if you don't have the desire, then maybe that's not part of your dharma. That's not your magic power. Not everyone's meant to talk on a stage. Not everyone's meant to talk one on one with people. So Kaphas should be connecting one on one. They should be doing live in person stuff. Pittas should be managing stuff. They should be running a team. That's how they thras should be creating ideas. They should be big picture people. And I do believe you should have a good kind of setting on each one. Otherwise it's going to be a gaping hole in your pocket. But doesn't mean you have to spend all your time. You just want to make sure that's not a setback. But if eventually with your ideas you can find a team or with your one on one, you can find a execution person you can scale.

I love that. And I want to touch on your last episode. You did a little bit. It was super fiery. It was super awesome. You were super heated. And it basically kind of touched on your thoughts on schooling and the system that we are put into. And I do not think enough of us are chatting about this. And it is a radical thing to bring up, but I would love to hear about your thoughts on that and what is going on with what we were taught and then how that actually hinders us from our growth.

Yeah. So I am saying this from someone whose dad is a straight up scholar. And I have always been good at school, but it's bullshit. It fucked me me up. It made me look for the answer. It made me wait for a teacher to hand me the assignment, telling me where to go and what to do and what comes next.

Wait in lines and.

Yeah. And what ends up happening is it does you this massive disservice because when you leave high school, college Graduate school, your doctorate, Harvard, whatever it is that you decide that you need to be taken seriously, then no one's handing you a fucking piece of paper. And you're like, where do I turn? So then you look for people to hand you sheets of paper, which are going to be like. Like massive. Like headhunter companies who are just using you as, like, you know, just human workforce, basically. And you're gonna end up chasing someone else's dream. And that person's dream is just to have tons of employees under them. So. And I see this. I mean, I teach people about living their dharma, and they're like, so are you gonna tell me what my dharma is? I'm like, do you? And I could. I have a very good guess.

Purpose.

Purpose I have. I've had a skiff my whole life that through someone's conversation, I could basically tell you what your purpose is. But I don't do that. And I used to reason why is because if I can kind of tap in and tell them, then that creates a dependency. And then they're going to keep on saying, well, then what do I do next? And how do I execute? And then I'm just sort of feeding them the answers, and they are losing the drive that they need to fulfill this thing. It's like, you know, going to a psychic. Let's say the psychic is spot on. Does it really help you? No. Because now you're going to be addicted to asking someone else questions you should be asking yourself.

Yeah. Yeah. And you love radical responsibility.

Absolutely.

We both are huge, huge pioneers of let's take control of our life. And it's your life. This is no one else's. And I hear so many excuses on a daily basis from people who want to do things. And it's crazy how much we let life tell us what to do instead of being our own guru. And I am a coach, obviously. And I'm honestly saying that I do not think I am the end all be all for every woman who comes into my space. I am just a guide. I am part of her journey. I hope it's magical. I hope it's incredible, credible. But I am not the answers to everything. Yeah.

And you, you are not the answer. They're never going to find an end all be all. They are the end all be all. And if you are continually looking for another coach, another certificate, another program, honey, you're going to be looking for the rest of your goddamn life.

Yeah.

And you're going to end up copying other people's funnels and other people's ideas. And the Internet is changing every day, literally. So you're gonna do something that worked two years ago and. And you're back at square one. So, you know, it's great to read books, have coaches, all of these things, but the moment that this becomes, you lost. You lost the whole purpose. So radical responsibility is first being okay with the free fall, being okay with the not knowing, being okay with. You know, you could call me confused, but I say, I'm curious. Maybe you're dabbling in different types of teachers or entrepreneurships and spiritual topics, and you're just dabbling. But don't say, now, I'm only going to do what Deepak says. I'm only going to do what Amy Porter says. I'm only going to do what this person says. Because then you're not being authentic to yourself. You can use these things as inspiration. But, you know, I personally, when I read a business book, I'm so, like, motivated at that time, I can't even finish it because I'm like, oh my God, I want to go do. But I see people read business book after business book after business book, and they're not running the business. You know, you're going to learn so much more by just doing it than by sitting and reading about other people who've done something totally different.

And it's a different experience. How I built this business, you could literally try to copy it right now, anybody could. And it probably wouldn't be the same because of how I interact with the audience, because, because of the unique type of content, my personality, you can't mimic that and you're not supposed to. And that's the cool thing, is that everybody builds businesses differently and there's somewhat of a structure and a system and that's what I teach, but I also really teach my students, guys, there's rules, but there's no rules.

Exactly.

And they're like, oh my God. I'm like, that's a good thing. That means you could do whatever the hell you want. There is no online social media police who's like, you have to post this at this time. And that's how you get followers. There really is no way. Everything's kind of hearsay, the algorithm, everything is just kind of up in the air. And it is our opportunity to grab it, play with it, see what works, see what doesn't. And coaches are guides and they are fantastic. Obviously, we are both in coaching and we love it, but honestly, I do not think it is the end all be all. And I hope Women know that when they go to things and even my event, I want them to come and I want them to find the answers inside themselves. I want that to be inspiration to look in. Not like, oh, my God, I need to go be these speakers now. No, I want you to leave and say, wow, I do have all of the answers. I really do. And here and there, coaches are fantastic, but not as a crutch, not as something you need 247 all the time. Go get these things a few times a year. But I don't think you need them every day, all the time. Because there are people who are bouncing from a new coach to a new coach every single month, going back to school because I need more. They're hiding almost, in a sense.

Absolutely.

And I've been one where I have. I pick my particular people here and there. I pick the things I want to go to here and there. Other than that, I don't make it complicated.

They're actually using it as a way to shoot shift responsibility off them. Because.

Ability shifting.

Yeah. Because if I'm saying, well, now I'm part of your program, now it's up to you. And now the responsibility is on you to entertain me and educate me. And if you don't do it, then I'm gonna sit and complain, oh, Angie, wasn't that good of a teacher. You know, it has nothing. You're just teaching what you know in your capacity. But if they don't implement things like people are like, is this guaranteed to make me healthy? Is this guaranteed to make me find my purpose? No. No one can guarantee anything to you. Only you can guarantee things to yourself and you. And with the responsibility, with responsibility comes freedom. You know, when you are responsible and you say, listen, I don't know what I'm doing, so I'm just going to try doing something. You become free.

Yeah.

You get to live life on your own terms. No one that you follow, that you like, and that you look up to is doing something someone else did. Every single person was a game changer.

Yeah.

And there are traditionalists and there are game changers. And these are two different things. A traditionalist will say, well, you know, know, Ayurveda said this, or the Bible said this, or blah, blah, or it could even look like this funnel nlp, this specific form of marketing. And they just keep preaching that form of marketing. This is the traditionalist, the change maker, the game changer. They are saying, okay, I've learned about these things. This is my take on it. And you can take it or Leave it. I don't have a fancy name for it. This is just what I'm doing. And those are the people that you're like, huh, cool. It's like, you know, Chinese, Mexican food. Interesting. It's something new.

Yeah.

And we have to be comfortable with being change makers. If you want to be remembered, if you want to make an influence, it's not going to be reiterating what someone else said, it's going to be adding your unique spin on it. And people actually are not here just for your knowledge, they're here for your energy. And this has been a huge lesson of mine. As a very intellectual person who can memorize things and, you know, write textbooks, I realized it has nothing to do with the information that I'm putting out there. I thought I have to know everything about Ayurveda, everything about spirituality and be this human library for people. And then I realize it's just the energy that I'm bringing forth and that's really what people want and it's how.

You deliver the information. You're so relatable, which makes me want to learn from you because I feel like you get me where I'm afraid to sometimes learn from people who are on their high horse of I know everything. I'm a library because I'm like, do you really get me? Do you understand what I'm going through right now? Can you just put this in layman's life terms? Because it's just way over my head. And that's what I think I know you did with Ayurveda is you made it fun and practical and relatable. Which is why I want to read the book versus someone who is like chapter 50 million and five. And it's like, I don't want to read this. This is not doable for me.

Yes. And that comes with confidence because at first I was like, I can't change Ayurveda. This is a 5000 year old health system. What are people going to think of me? Imposter syndrome as you talk about with your people.

I bet you did some crazy imposter syndrome.

A massive thing to be changing. Right. But then I was, listen, I wholeheartedly believe that these changes are necessary. And, and I've explained why I believe these changes are necessary. And again, you can hate it or you can love it. I found most people do love it. I have haters just like the next person does. But if you don't, then you're doing something wrong. Where I am, where I want to be, what are the things I need to do. You know, sometimes it's in our head, just writing down, like, what are the things that I need to be doing more of getting into the action just to. So then you're not. Not like, oh, someone threw this opportunity at me, which is like, you know, start a skincare line. My goal is not to start a skincare line, you know, but we get opportunities thrown at us and the more successful you get, the more people want to tango with you. And you have to have a really clear focus of where you want to be going because it's going to get really, really easy to get lost in collaborations and this and that when you lose your own inner compass.

I feel like I was meant to hear this right now. Yeah, that's where I am. A lot of tangoing of people wanting things that it's. Yeah, I don't want to do that. I'm like, that's not. I don't want to start that business. I don't want to join that. I don't want to start this skincare line or. I totally know what you mean.

You only as smart as the money you leave on the table. There are a lot of ways to make money, Lots of ways, easy ways. But when you leave money on the table, you are saying, I can find a more aligned way to make that money. And you are creating that possibility to happen. Because with every business as easy as it sounds and they tell you you're just going to be partner, you don't have to do work on this, blah, blah, I'm going to do everything. It's never the case. It's never the case because energetically, it's like if you're dating multiple guys, you're not going to be all in on this one guy, even if they don't know about each other. Because energetically, you're scattered with business. We're scattered. And a lot of people think to scale, to build, to grow means, to get involved in more businesses. And that's not the case. This is more, I think, of CrossFit. You know, CrossFit is the fastest growing gym, over $100 million business. They've been offered to do protein shakes, this, that. Think about how many things CrossFit could sell they could make a killing on. They said, no, we're a gym and we're only going to build gyms.

That's what we do. Yeah, yeah. Having that integrity of the simplicity, simplicity, Having that focus, having the niche, having. I think this can apply to everything.

Too many people, they haven't they haven't done the first thing. Oh, and then I'm going to create a product line and this and that. My vision board has all these things. Great, dream big. But execute on that one thing really well. And then actually once you execute it and you see how much work it is, you're going to see all these other things are just not going to.

Stop you to vata. You guys get into the pitta and realize that it takes some work. Execute it.

You can take sips of kapha in that. Taking the walk, going to the yoga class, taking a bath, sips of kapha to keep you going. Yeah. But the majority of your day to day is the doing. It's. It's the grind, it's the hustle. And as long as you're in alignment, it's not going to deplete you.

Yeah, I love that. As long as you're in alignment, it's not going to deplete you. I think that's what I'm going to title this episode. Juicy. How can everyone creep on you, stalk you, find you what's coming up next?

Yes. So my website is iamsahararose.com Sahara like the desert. And I have a quiz they can take to discover what their doshas are and I break it down into the percentage in their mind and in their body. So if they're like, I don't know, just take the quiz, you'll figure it out. And my Instagram is also iamsahara rose. I'm always posting motivational stories and stuff. I have a podcast which I just interviewed you on. Highest self podcast. And my book is called Idiot's guide to Ayurveda. And my new book is called Eat, feel fresh which comes out October 2nd.

Awesome. So excited. You've got a lot of good stuff coming up, but it's also in alignment and that's why it feels good for you. And that's super honorable because there's so many entrepreneurs right now who are not leading their business like that. That. So thank you for being you. Thank you for being on and we'll chat soon. Hope you guys love this episode.

Well, I hope you enjoyed me being interviewed by Angie Lee on the Angie Lee podcast. She's amazing. I'm actually speaking at her event this coming weekend. Pays to be brave. So excited for that. So if you loved learning about entrepreneurship from me and want to dive deeper into that, please join me on the abundance mindset masterclass. It is all about about this money, abundance, how to create a living doing what you love and also based on your dosha, looking at money from a spiritual lens, but also a really, really pragmatic one. Teaching you how to build programs, sales funnels, all of the things you want to do to become an entrepreneur, have your own thriving online business, and all of the freedom to, like, read books and go to the beach and live your fullest life. Because really, money is just a tool that provides us with freedom so we can live as our highest selves. So please join me on the Abundance Mindset Masterclass. Again, spots are limited. We get started this November, if you're listening. After November, we're going to start again in January. So head over to the Show Notes to check that out, and I am so excited to share it with you. I hope you enjoyed this episode and I can't wait to see you on my Abundance Mindset Masterclass Webinar Namaste.

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