237: Spirit Hacking + Shamanism For The People with Shaman Durek

Namaste, it's Sahara Rose. And welcome back to the Highest Self podcast, a place where you discuss what makes you your soul's highest development. It has been such a beautiful end of the year, as I have been observing in myself, in my friends and my community member, just this shift of consciousness and particularly this shift into the feminine. I've been observing so many people saying that they're done with chasing and pushing and struggling and are so ready to just flow and allow in ease and do things a different way. And I myself am someone who completely resonates. This year has very much been about the Goddess. You know, Rose Gold Goddesses, my sacred sisterhood collective, which is an online membership community with monthly goddess circles. We have our very own app with goddesses from all around the world, connecting, talking about everything from sound baths to meditation to entrepreneurship to finding their dharma, to dealing with family members who are not conscious during the holidays and everything in between. And it has been so amazing to see these women coming together, talking about the things that we don't get to talk about in the things that really matter, like consciousness and being in touch with your soul self and living your best life. And it's funny because these are the things that matter the most. But we tend to not talk about in our society. So it's been amazing watching this shift, watching women come into their bodies, watching women own their sexuality and their sensuality, and seeing that that is sacred, that there is nothing dirty or shameful or disgusting or wrong about you being a sexual creature. And I just did post on my Instagram at I am Sahara Rose. If you're not following me on there, I'm always posting on there. It's a really good place to get a glimpse of what I'm working through on a daily basis. And I just posted a picture of me at my Rose Gold Goddesses launch party in New York. We did launch parties in New York, L.A. miami. And it's amazing because in these launch parties, you feel the sisterhood, you feel the connection. We're dancing together. We're doing Oracle cards. We're connecting, we're talking. We're sharing our highest dreams, our highest visions. Like it is the ult act of support and love and union and sisterhood and celebration. And even with that, you know, because people on social media only see one part of the picture. They see us dancing, they see us enjoying our bodies, and we receive criticism for it. I have personally, so I wanted to address that face on and I shared on my Instagram post some of the quotes and Comments that I've gotten from people like, there is nothing spiritual about a bunch of women dancing sexually or oh, my God, twerking and belly dancing is disgusting. Shame on you. Women who show their bodies are insecure. Girls who dress sexually are asking for it. You can't be spiritual and twerk. It's the opposite. And these are just examples to show us that the patriarchy is alive and rampant and sadly in many women's subconscious. Because we have been made to believe that our bodies, our wombs, our movement, our fluidity, our sexuality, our yonis are disgusting, shameful, wrong, sinful, when the polar opposite is true. Our sexuality is sacred. Our wombs hold life force. Our yonis are the divine portal between the physical and spiritual worlds. Dancing is sacred worship, Our bodies are the temple. And twerking and belly dance are ancient birthing dances meant to open up our bodies to deliver life.

And more than that, they allow us.

To enjoy the femininity of our bodies, our curves, our expressions, our innate wisdom. And when one come together and honor their bodies and allow themselves to be seen for the sensual, sexual, and spiritual goddesses that they are, because you are all three. And that is how the feminine is healed. So it has been an honor to step into this myself, because in me stepping into this fire of growing up in a family, that sexuality was never talked about, growing up in a lineage of child marriage, my grandmas were in child marriages. And coming from a background where the woman was suppressed, where she was an object, where she was the second, third wife of someone else, where she was never allowed to even learn how to read and write, that's my literal lineage. And to come from that and to own that, I'm capable of deciding for myself. I'm capable of deciding how I want to live, how I want to work, if I want to work, how I want to marry, if I want to marry, how I want to move, if I want to move, and that is healing. And from the outside, we can look at that, we can judge, we can shame, we can put on our own limiting mindset of what we've seen before. Maybe we've seen unconscious sexuality. So we now equate all sexuality with being unconscious. But that is not the truth. That is not the whole. We have to see that sexuality is how we all came to exist on this physical plane. No one came from not sex. You know, we all came from this plane. And it's crucial for us to see that when we judge other women for dancing and for enjoying their bodies, we're actually just judging Ourselves. And we're limiting ourselves from living our ultimate expression because you were meant to dance and to shake and to enjoy and to feel and to experience pleasure and bliss. The truth of who you are. Like in Vedas, the truth of who you are is Ananda. That's. That's bliss. So when we say, ah, spirituality only looks like. Only looks like this. It only looks like Om Namashivaya. I'm only wearing white. I'm disconnected from my physical body. Like, sure, that's Vedanta. That's non dualism. That's one aspect of spirituality. And then there's also shamanism, which is to go deeply into the body and to remove all right and wrong in a totally different way and to just actually go and face those shadows head on. So this was essentially my very long intro to introduce Shaman Durek to Highest Self podcast. And he is someone who does this so beautifully. He has a new book called Spirit Hacking, which we're going to talk about on this episode. And what he shares so well is that we all have access to this power inside of ourselves. And when we judge ourselves and we say, oh, spirituality only looks like this. I can't be attached to my physical body. I can only work with the third eye. It's like we let go of the whole spectrum of who we are. And another huge topic we talked about in this episode is that when you truly dive into spirituality, you realize that there's no separation between you and someone else. And that removes judgment, because when we're judging someone else, we're automatically saying, me and you are different. I don't relate to you. So that's why I'm judging you, because I believe in this way, I'm superior to you.

So if you believe you're superior to.

Someone, that means you're disconnected from them, and that means you're disconnected from the whole. So you are a fragment. You are an individual. You are not part of greater consciousness. So why would you want to put yourself in that box where, like, there's consciousness? We're all here partying and driving and. And illuminating the path for each other. And you want to be separate because you want to judge. Like, that doesn't make sense. I mean, it makes sense in our competitive society where they want us to see ourselves as separate because they don't want us to all come together. But when you look at the whole, when you awaken, you realize that that is a lie. And when you remove yourself from the blackout, which we talked about in this episode, you're able to See that we are all one. And in my new book, discover your Dharma, which I just finished writing, I talk about the different stages of spiritual awakening. And you know, at first you, you realize you're unhappy, and then you realize you have a power. Then your interests shift to getting to know yourself. Then you realize you're not even your personality. You're not your Myers Briggs archetype, you're your soul. And then from that understanding, your soul, which I think most like spiritual. A lot of people on this podcast are. But the next level, which I think a lot of you guys are at too, is, is shifting from me to we. And that sometimes looks like taking a step back from all your self care practices and all the things you do to bring yourself into alignment, but realizing that being of service is the highest point of alignment. And that's truly when you step into power, when you are not trying to remove yourself from society so your chakras can stay in balance, but you actually go into society and you change it and you make it better. And that is really the highest form of spiritual growth. Because your spirituality is not fragile. It's not at this point that like one person with a bad vibe can throw it off, but you're able to come back into that vibration and cultivate it within yourself so you can bring it to the whole and bring it to the places where it is not. So we talk about a lot of this in this episode. Shaman Dirk is a dear friend of mine. We have our awaken your powers masterclass, which is free in Rose Gold Goddesses. So if you want to experience it and you're in Rose Gold Goddesses, it's under the workshop section. And if you're not in Rose Gold Goddesses, just head over to rosegoldgoddesses.com to join the wait list. And we're going to be opening doors back up in January for one week. And we're just opening doors about three times a year because we're really cultivating the community here and we would love to have you. So Shaman Durek is seventh generation shaman. He is a bridge between the two worlds. He is funny, he is sassy. He says it like it is. He is an eloquent speaker, eloquent channel, and he is a dear friend of mine. For the past couple years we've been in each other's vortex and he's someone that really inspires me whenever we do a podcast together. This is the third time he's been on the podcast. People truly love it. So if you love this, just look Up Highest Level Podcast, Shaman Derek. Listen to the other episodes that he's done on the podcast, our conversations together, and this one is going to inspire you. It's going to uplift you, it's going to allow you to think in a different way. And be sure to check out his book, Spirit Hacking for more. So, without further ado, let's welcome Shaman Durek to the Highest Self Podcast.

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Thank you. I love being here with you. You're amazing and you're such a powerful woman and I love everything you do and all your teachings and your ayurvedic books and you're just awesome, friend. You've helped me so much. I mean, I wouldn't be doing a podcast myself if it wasn't for you.

I am so grateful. And everyone who I show your work, all the vertical goddesses who are watching our awaken your powers course are like, yes, I need all of the information and juice and wisdom that is channeling through this divine vessel. And we have you back on the Highest Self podcast to talk about that. And I don't even know where to start with your new book, but we are going to start with what makes you your Highest Self, I would say.

What makes me my highest self is really when I am being a kid, when I'm playing and having fun and being around people and not taking life so seriously, skipping down the street, dancing, spontaneously playing the drums, you know, with just complete happiness without even thinking and singing songs out loud that I'm making up off the top of my head and just really enjoying life without the confines or the restrictions that a lot of people like to add into the narrative of life, you know? And I think that makes me my higher self because I feel like my higher self literally is a love being a love ambassador, childlike spirit.

And you so inspire me to continue to tap into that side of me. I feel like life gets so busy and we can constantly fill our schedules up with things that are quote, unquote productive. And really, especially when my life has become busier, I'm leaning into how can I add more Play. Like I just showed you my Lisa Frank coloring books that I've been drawing. And you're wearing. Guys, he's wearing the most epic rainbow shirt right now. And. And it just. We take everything so literally, so seriously. We feel like if we don't have this, like, serious suit on, then we're going to fall behind. And the more childlike and play like you can be, the easier things will flow to you.

Absolutely. I agree 100%.

So you have just embodied. You've just birthed this movement, this movement that is beginning. And as I know already, I know there's so much more to it, but it's bringing spirit hacking to the world. And this book is revolutionary because it is the first book ever that I've heard someone talk about these things, especially shamanic practices in such a relatable way. And I feel like for the first time, you've given the power back to the people. And there's always been this almost veil of, okay, well, we're the shamans or the mystics and the people who know this information. And then you Muggles cannot know. And I feel like you're like, nope, that veil is no longer going to exist. I'm going to give all of the power and the magic and the tools back to the people so they can lift themselves up. And with that, people are doing incredible healings and it's just amazing to witness.

Thank you. You're going to have something. You're going to have me cry because that's like, that's always been my dream. Is it, you know, is that a lot of shamans have this whole thing where they don't like dealing with confrontation. So it doesn't matter if you're a Peruvian shaman or an African shaman, or a shaman that's in Indonesia or the Sami people, you kind of keep to yourself. You keep your lineage and your indigenous culture to yourself and your secrets to yourself, and you don't really share them with the western world. And my family comes from that indigenous culture of Africa. But even though I was raised in a more modern context, ICE was trained in a lot of that, you know, that past lineage. And I feel at the same time that I was always asking myself, you know, my dad would always say, you know, you can't share this with people. You have to keep it secret. Like, you don't let people know about these things, don't let any friends know about these things, because you know, it's going to draw too much attention and people are going to start making fun of you and, you know, ostracizing you and all this kind of stuff. And I was like, you know, I really think that there's a point in reality where we go into a place of self actualization while we're living our spirit. And a lot of times people have this idea that you become self actualized after you finish your life or you get to some spiritual plateau. And I think that the truth of self actualization is the recognition of yourself in all of the journeys you've been on since the time that you were a child to where you are now. And then really solidifying that into beautiful legems and Ruby's teachings and wisdoms and beautiful adaptations that you can bring to life and interruptions you can bring into life's narrative to better someone else's life. And I don't feel like all of the ancient wisdoms should be so safeguarded. I feel like we need to create a spiritual buffet and give people the right to choose. Because right now, where we are in our evolution is we don't have time to sit back and be so nonchalant about the fact that someone's gonna train with us for 40, 50 years or 20 years, 30 years, and be able to get the knowledge and the information and the wisdom and gain that level of thought and proclivity of what it means to take in the self actualization and understanding shamanism and understanding the relationship with nature and people and anthropology, sociology, and all of these beautiful things that you get from studying shamanism. And so I believe codependency is over. I'm not into the gurus and the idea of someone hierarchy. I believe that we're here to share the information and we can all learn from each other. And I think the putting ourselves on pedestals and walking and parading ourselves as these spiritual leaders instead of saying, hey, you know what? Come stand with me. You're in this together. So when people say my book, I'm like, no, it's not my book. It's our book. I wrote our book. It was channeled through the messages and the teachings. Yes, from my lineage and also from spirit to bring forth, but it's our book. It's all of us living and being a part of this experience, you know, so true.

And it's so important that we don't take total ownership of the information that is channeling through us because it's only chosen us as a vessel. But the wisdom is not ours. And I think the only reason why we would hold onto it is because of ego. Because the ego wants to, you know, be gratified and be praised for this wisdom that is only coming from me. But if it's true wisdom, it cannot come from you. It's coming from a higher source that is past the mind. And when I read your work, I'm like, yeah, he's tapping into some channel that I've tapped into before too, because it resonates as true. And when something resonates as true, it's because you've already known it as truth inside of you before.

Yeah, for sure. And I think also too, the idea of me or I basically shows that there is no wisdom there. Right? Because the wisdom is the w. It's the we. Right? It's the wisdom. It's the we. It's the, it's the wisdom. You know, it's like, right? It's the acknowledgement of the collective as providing for the all. And so it's all inclusive. And I think that when we separate and we eliminate and we leave people out, you know, it's like my whole saying is like, you know, people will say, oh, you know, this person's like, oh, I've been doing all this healing on myself and I'm so glad I'm finally healed. I'm like, no, you're not. You're not healed. There's a person on the street right now who's suffering. You're not healed until they're healed. Because it's an all inclusive thing. Like you can realize yourself as an individual, but the truth of the matter is that everything you do, everything you say, everything you eat, everything you emulate through your being is affecting life in some way. And and until we recognize that beautiful, distinct connection between us and nature, and us and other people, and us and the galaxy and the universe, we're still going to continue to create things that are actually destroying and hurting us, instead of realizing the potential of our being to utilize our vessel as a collective reflection out into the world, to create what we see as beautiful positive change.

So well said and very true. The wisdom gonna definitely remember that. So in your book Spirit Hacking, you offer us practical tools that we can use essentially to give ourselves back the power, whether it's through self healing, whether it's through regulating our energies and so many other different practices. So can you share with us what spirit hacking is?

So spirit hacking is really about building a very connected relationship with yourself, and not just with yourself, but with nature and with the words that you speak, because those also are power source codes and information that is either creating life or destroying life. You know, the context of spirit hacking really came to me in the sense of looking at shamanism, looking at psychology, and looking at how we interact as individuals on planet Earth and, and just the aspect of how we hug each other, how we talk to each other, how do we actually relate to ourselves in our body and the way we relate to animals and the way we relate to the wind when it passes us on the street. There's a. I've noticed that through the industrial age and through the age of technology, we've become so self reliant upon all of these things and become so entitled to the idea that these things are always gonna be there for us, that we have got out of the idea of stepping into a different relationship with everything around us. It's almost a kind of like, oh yeah, well that person's there. So I'm not really going to really pay attention so much to the plant that's sitting on the table that's dying. But I'm not going to really see that it's dying. I'm just going to see that it's a plant sitting on the table. And when we get into spirit hacking, we take it a little bit deeper, we go like a level deeper and we go into the real antithesis of the core relationship that we're actually really having with ourselves, with our bones, with our muscles, with our words, with our thoughts, with our feelings, with our plant on the table, with the animal in the room, with the person in our life, with the relationship, the way we share our bodies with someone when we're being intimate, and in the way in which we speak into the world and the way we emote the way that we communicate to ourselves. All of these things are creating, generated sources of energy, and those energies are going somewhere and they are affecting something. And I think that there is a point of reference when we begin to realize that the reason why the world has gotten the way it is is because we've become. We, you know, in the past, we've become so complacent with the idea of comfortable being uncomfortable that we don't really see that the comfortable that we think we have is really uncomfortable and really choose to seek a different form of relationship with that which is around us. You know, instead of blaming everyone for what's going wrong in the world, blaming your mate or blaming your friend or blaming nature or blaming your government, you realize that every single thing that's happening in our world is because of our relationship to it. And so spirit hacking is about learning how to hack your attention, your awareness, your ability to tap into a deeper connectivity that allows you to make shifts and changes in the Matrix. And that's a pretty powerful tool to have when it comes to, like, really, really realizing, like, wow, like, I can actually manipulate an energy because I'm being manipulated all the time by energies. Like, you know, you're everywhere you go in life, you're being manipulated by energies. But it's questionable in the sense of manipulation from a negative perspective to understanding manipulation from a much more constructive perspective, which is the idea that you can actually shift energy that can affect a hundred people in one second because you made a shift here that affects the man in Nepal from not either being able to find food or not find food. So you begin to realize that there's this cohesive collective communication taking place even without words, and that the woman who is having difficulty in a relationship where she's in an abusive relationship in another country by you shifting relationship within yourself, here you are sending what we call a pulse string to that woman, and she's able now to move through that situation because you decided to do the loving service here at this part of the world. And I think that, you know, if we look at medicine, we look at technology, we look at all these things, they've made us in a very divisive, very separate, very me, me, glorify me. And because we are coming out of the age of narcissism, which we've been using narcissism as a platform to truly understanding our likes and our dislikes. And as people say, what I resonate with and what I don't resonate with, which is always the a Funny case, because whatever you're actually seeing in your point of view and reference is what you resonate with or what spirit wants you to see that you do resonate with, or you wouldn't even see it. This level of engagement is necessary for us to be able to sustain life.

Absolutely. And I love how you took it so into just the cross global connection. Because I think a lot of times with healing, we really keep it to the point of the individual, like, okay, this is how I can heal myself. And your whole thing and your whole mission is, well, the only way that you can heal yourself is to be connected to the healing of others and be connected to the way that their lack of healing can also be affecting you. But what about if you're in a surrounding of people that are not doing the work and they're not doing the healing and they're in a lot of pain? How can you focus on healing yourself when there's no one around you who's holding that vibration too?

Well, first of all, you have to understand that if you are around people who you think is not doing the work, because remember, the idea of doing the work right is really subjective to your viewpoint and your perception of what you think that looks like. Right. They may be doing something, it just may not be something you can see or something that you can relate to. Because in your idea of getting something done, it may mean something completely different. Right? So I think when we get into the understanding, the first thing we have to eliminate is the idea of what we think something's happening to another person. And realize that in order for you to be able to get held in that space, you have to realize that you're already held in that space. The consciousness of being held or not held is a, basically it's a differentiation between you accepting that source is there for you or not there for you. And the collective of that would be again, removing the code that is in your subconscious mind, which is when people have sessions with me. One of the things that I do, if I have enough time based on the other things that I have to deal with, depending what their issues are when they come in, is remove the destructive code from their subconscious mind. And the destructive code is that, you know, you're brought into a planet that tells you that your creator could destroy you or throw you away, or burn you in hell, or dispose of you if you don't follow certain indoctrinations and rules. And so therefore you grow up in a system that's based upon these very clear laws of what's you know, what is good and what is bad. But again, they're subjective to each and everyone's family and their culture and their upbringing and, you know, what their theology is and their whole idea of concept of life. So in someone else's house next door, they have a whole different viewpoint of what's right and wrong. But no one's ever taken those right and wrong ideas and really held them up for examination under the lens of unconditional love. Right? We kind of just go along with them. And so we kind of map out our life based on the idea of feeling good by being liked and being loved and getting accolades and being successful. So we think, okay, we're liked because we're successful. Things are working because, look, people like us because we're successful. And so what it does is it creates this imbalanced narrative inside of your being. And that imbalanced narrative is that because you actually believe that's real, you've already created a subconscious coding that is already subconsciously directly affecting you for destruction. So you will actually, as you are moving forward, you're still destroying some aspect of yourself on some level. And a lot of people don't realize that. The reason why we destroy our own resources on our planet, why we destroy other life forms and other sentient beings, Sentient beings on our planet, and why we disregard women in their power is a very clear pathway. Because women operate in a quantum field. They operate in the ability to see in balance. Whereas men don't see imbalance, they see structure. So women to see in balance, men, then women are supposed to tell the men, hey, there's imbalance here. And then men are supposed to be able to be comfortable enough to hear that and then say, okay, let me find new structures to weigh to support that, and vice versa. And what you have is you have a suppression of women. You have suppression of elderly women who hold sacred wisdom and knowledge because they went through that phase of life, and now they're in the croning stage. That's why, if you look in ancient magic, ancient sorcery, ancient things, you have the crone, you have the mother, the maiden, the crone, right? And so the understanding of the crone holds great wisdom. And every time we keep pushing our elderly women out of society, pushing them out of the ring of acceptance and love and seeing their value, we're actually throwing away wisdom. I mean, we're literally taking wisdom books and throwing them into the fire, which is so completely crazy as a culture that wants to continue to evolve because you can't Evolve if you don't have the wisdom of the women, because the wisdom of the women are the cornerstones of society. So then. So in shamanism, we know that. So the consciousness of reality is the distortion factor. The distortion factor that makes it difficult is that you don't believe you're being held or supported. When you're around people who you feel are not doing the quote unquote work, as you said, is because the limitation of seeing that as a reflection makes you feel that you don't have the power or the know how within yourself already. When you have ancestors who are holding you, you have nature spirits who are holding you, you have angelic hosts that are holding you, ascended masters that are holding you, you have deities that are holding you. And then you have, you know, what we call spiritual helpers that are holding you. These are beings from other parts of the galaxies that are tuning into your development and learning from human being and human nature. They're holding you. And then the greatest part is, is you holding you. Right? And that's what we get into, what we call stepping back into the nucleus of you and getting out of the nucleus of another. So when you step back into the nucleus of you, you realize that the dynamic source is you communicating to yourself, which I talk about in the book spirit hacking and soul talk and a lot of other things, such as communicating with your shadow, building relationship with your guides, all of these different things. They're all there waiting, and they're just waiting for you to come back into the nucleus and say, hey, we got this. Now we just need to say the right words, the right codes to illuminate the right energies at the right time. So that way we can see the shift on the outside happen because of the shift in the inside has been made.

So what are some of these codes that we could say to shift the energies?

Well, we can do it right now, together, right?

Yes.

Okay, so think about it this way. Most people spend a huge portion of their life looking for what's wrong. And I catch myself doing this too sometimes. I travel so much and I'm dealing with so much media and I'm dealing with all this stuff going back and forth from my relationship with my girlfriend to, you know, what people are thinking in the country of our relationship and stuff like that. And I get beat down and I catch myself going into that negative speak, right? That negative talk. And so what we need to do is soul talk ourselves back into our reality. Right? Our real reality. Right. Our realness. Right. So you can go right now. So I want you to feel that the difference between the two. So first, the old affirmational component would be to use the word I. The word I signifies you in the beingness of your reality. So I am beautiful. Right. So go ahead and say, I am beautiful.

I am beautiful.

And just notice the energy and see how that feels. Okay, now change the narrative to you actually being the higher self to yourself and say, I love how beautiful you are.

I love how beautiful you are.

Now, which one holds higher frequency?

I found the second one.

Exactly. And you know why? Because when you operate from the I perspective, you actually are creating a cone around your body, your energy field that doesn't allow you to see yourself. You're actually in the center of yourself. When you operate from your higher self communicating to you, that's where you get the true holding that you were talking about. Like, that's the true embrace. Like, that is amazing. So you can say, I love how beautiful you are. Go ahead.

I love how beautiful you are.

And I love how there's so many people right now talking beautiful things about you.

I love how there's so many people right now talking beautiful things about you.

Yeah. How did that feel?

Good.

Yeah. I love how you always walk into a room and you always heal people when you're there.

I love how you always walk into a room and you always heal people.

While you are there.

You see what's happening. I love how right now you're bringing powerful energies up your spine.

I love how right now you are bringing powerful energies up your spine.

Can you feel that? Yes. You see, because when you are operating from the idea that you are communicating to yourself, right? You can even say, I want you to know that you have the power to move through any obstacle.

I want you to know that right now you have the power to move through any obstacle.

And I believe in you.

And I believe in you.

You see the relationship. So that relationship becomes a holding. And that holding then begins to expand. And so therefore, what happens is you begin to feel it immediately. The energies begin to shift. Immediately.

It feels more nurturing.

Yeah, it's more nurturing. And it's also more centered. Nucleus centered. Nucleus centered means that you're heart centered. You're literally actually activating your energy within your energy field. As you being a secondary, which is the higher self, to your original self, then that makes it easier for the universal field to connect into that and shift things very quickly. So this is the way that I always tell people is a wonderful way to connect with the self, is to go into soul talk. Just get right into the soul talk space. Really step into the space of. I love how beautiful you are. I love how you're always at the right place at the right time, at the right moment. I love how money is always flowing to you and opportunity is always showing up for you. And I love how you nurture your body and you take really good care of yourself. I love how you tap into yourself and always check in and see what your needs are and what is best for you so you can feel good. I love how people around you can feel your beautiful energy. And I love how right now someone is thinking about about a beautiful thing they want to share with you and then create with you and collaborate with you and how excited they are about being able to do something fun with you. I love how every time you go anywhere in life, you are bringing beautiful energies with you. Literally, when you walk into the room, people just don't know what to do because your energy is so bright and so delicious and so beautiful that they just love to be around you. I love that when you stand next to someone at a group grocery store, you're healing their body. I love how powerful you are, how delightful you are. And I love what a creative genius you are. I love the nature of your being and I love the power that you represent. I love that you are always open to new ideas and new experiences. And I love how you love people.

So beautiful clapping to that, you know, And I think that's so powerful. And I think with the affirmations, it can feel like faking it for a lot of people, like, I am enough. I am worthy. And it's like, do you actually, you know, And I think that putting it in that different narrative of seeing it from your higher self can be really powerful. Because we are used to saying the you because we give these words to other people all the time. So maybe just turning that around and saying the you towards ourselves can be the exact medicine that we need.

Yeah. Like watch. You can put your hand out like this and you can say, create a powerful energy surge in your hand.

Create a powerful energy surge in your hand.

Make it stronger.

Make it stronger.

And open up your feelings to feel it.

And open up your feelings to feel it feels warm.

See? And that's you. Watch this. Say, lift your vibration higher.

Lift your vibration higher.

And add some sparkle to it.

And add some sparkle to it.

Now take a deep breath.

Now take a deep breath.

And feel the expansion.

And feel the expansion.

Do you see what's happening?

Do I look sparkly yeah you are.

You actually do look sparkly.

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But do you see how powerful that is?

Absolutely. And it's so simple.

It's so simple. You can say to yourself, go right now on a journey.

Go right now on a journey.

Access into the spirit world.

Access into the spirit world.

And bring a new, powerful healing symbol to earth.

And bring a new, powerful healing symbol to earth.

Now see it in your mind's eye.

I already saw it. It was like the sign for PI.

Great. Now say, add another symbol to it.

Add another symbol to it.

And combine the energy source.

And combine the energy source.

Now say, later you should draw this out on a paper.

Later you should draw this out on.

A paper and give its description of what it does.

And give its description of what it does. Yeah, I mean, once I had this realization when I was looking into the mountains and I saw all of the tribal markings on the mountains, and it made me realize that these tribal markings aren't coming from nothing. They're coming from a reflection of what happens when they see these mountains. And we recognize them as like, oh, that's African tribal or that's Native American or whatever it is. But it was actually just what they saw when they looked into their nature.

Right, so it's a cultural etching that they have shared with us. Exactly. And in shamanism, we believe that nothing should be regurgitated, that you can take information from the old, which is great, but then you must take it and journey further with it into the unknown to bring more information to it, to create what we call combination energies. Right.

This is so massive because a lot of people, I mean, I experience it, you experience it. It. It's the backlash to. You can't combine the ancient with anything else. You can't bring your modern spin on it. Like, this is the way that things have always been. And it's like this, like this guard of, like the old way. And true shamanism, true Ayurveda, true. Everything at its core is to move forward. It is to look at what the population, what you need at this moment, which is going to be different than even five minutes ago, let alone 5,000 years ago. So. So I love how you said that of the combination, because I think that's what so many people are afraid of doing, and that's why it's not working for them.

Right. And I love that you actually said that, because that's something that's needed to be said. And again, when I talk about moving us out of codependency and getting us into the independent nature, it's like this man said to me the other day, he goes, you know, I know that you do a lot of stuff with, you know, with women, you know, and I just feel like, how can I help my wife become even greater? I'm like, hold space for her and shut up. And he's like, what? He's like, but I'm here to help her grow. I have all this knowledge for her. I said, she has her own knowledge and her own intrinsic wisdom. By you forcing your knowledge on her, you're not giving her space to bring her knowledge forth. So as you're laying out all these things, you're not giving her space to open up her bag and bring out all of her beautiful offerings of flowers and a seashell that has a story behind it, and a rock that tells another story or a piece of bark that she collected that has a story to it, which all of these stories could benefit your life in a huge way. And he goes, oh, my God, you're right. And he's like, I was taught not to do that. I said, well, most men have been taught not to do that. We were taught that we have the information. We are the builders. We have to pay the bills. We're the one who has the right to say what we want. We're the ones that do that. And women just raise the children and do whatever. And I said, but that's not how it operates. If we operate from collective consciousness for the highest level of evolution, we realized that in tribal culture, a woman was the one who decided where the tribe would migrate. The woman was the one who decided how things would continue to flow. It was always the shaman going to the women, because the first shaman in the whole entire world was a woman. And so we have to bring back the women shamans. And a lot of times I get really annoyed when I hear people say things like, well, the shaman. Shamanisms belong to the indigenous people. No, they do not. And this has to stop. Shamanism does not belong to indigenous culture. In fact, it started indigenous culture because that's where we were in. Where we were in our growth on the planet. However, shamans are also being born outside of indigenous tribes because it's not the tribe that chooses the shaman, it's the spirits that choose the shaman. And they choose it based on your willingness to be open, to be fluid, and your ability to step into both the masculine and feminine without fear, and to be able to be a vessel to pour into without you trying to analyze it, trying to just put it into description, trying to make sense of it. But instead, you just act upon the grace of play through it. So it's that curious little kid, little girl, little boy, who's literally doing something completely different from what the tribe is doing. That's how you know the next line of shaman. Who that person is, is. And a lot of times people will write to me and say, well, you know, you don't have a right to tell people that they can become shamans. I'm like, no, you don't have a. A right to say that they can't because you're not the spirit. Spirit chooses the person. I just feel like I'd like to clarify that a little bit more.

I'm, like, nodding like crazy because this is such an important topic, especially as two people of color to have, because I feel like a lot of people, and it's. A lot of times it's white people being like, oh, well, if you're not a person of color, you can't talk about any of these things. And it makes people feel like they're wrong for the color of their skin. You can't choose if you were born white, black, purple, anything, but your soul is coming through. So if you're like, oh, I really want to learn about what Shaman Durek is saying, but, you know, I don't come from an indigenous culture. I'm not African, I'm not Peruvian, so I can't do shamanism. Or I want to learn about Ayurveda. I'm not Indian. That is like telling your soul, like, sorry, you chose the wrong body. In this lifetime, the soul doesn't mess up, you know, and this is such, especially in today's political climate, that we're so afraid of anything. And it's like, what, are we going to go back back in time? That people can only do things related to their culture? People can only marry within their culture? Like, is this even helping?

Yeah, exactly. You know, I do believe that there is a certain reverence that we should have for other people's cultures and where these things derived from and the time and the energy that the ancestors put into cultivating it. You know, especially when it comes to, like, things like plant medicine, you know, I think there's a certain level of reverence that we need to have for a lot of these things. However, not a lot of these things are going to continue forward in our evolution. In fact, there could be a little boy or a little girl right now who is the next powerful source of bringing shamanic wisdom, new keys, new information, new technology, new everything into the forefront of human consciousness. And because we hold such a strong narrative of it has to be like this or it has to be like that, we're limiting the doors from opening from spirit to bring it in in any which way it chooses. You see, spirit doesn't respond to human nature's conscious ideas of what is right and what is wrong is according to what is allowed, right? Spirit is allowed. Spirit is. It is the allowance of all things. Right? And so I think that when we get beyond these constructs and we get beyond these ideas of how we paint these narratives of descriptions, I mean, even down to the idea of, like, sexuality, sensuality, you know, people will talk about, you know, I'm bi, I'm straight, I'm gay, I'm cis, I'm this I'm that I came up up with one called soul sexual. People ask me, what are you? I'm soul sexual. What does that mean? I'm attracted to the soul. If the soul is something I feel a connection to, I can share my body and intimately with, you know. So people go, like, what? How's that possible? You have a girlfriend? Like, what does that mean? Like, and the thing is, is that we put so much concentration on these boxes that we literally start to build narratives out of those boxes. But there's no real creative freedom there. Because if you're building out of a box box, then what you're building belongs in the box. It doesn't belong in the free world and the free land, the free consciousness. Especially if you're learning how to hack your brain space technology to access any level of technology, even the technology that you're not aware of, which is happening beyond what humans can see, which we call the invisible plane in shamanism, right. In order to hack into that, which I talk about a lot in the spirit hacking book, you have to be willing to go in without holding on to your belief systems of what you believe to be true as of now, because all of that information was given to you. But to go into new lands, to go on the adventure of newness, you literally have to go in like a child again. You know, that's why I love. There's a wonderful scripture, Christian wise, where they say, like when Jesus, they asked Jesus, like, how does one enter the kingdom of heaven? He said, and to tell you the truth and enter the kingdom of heaven, you have to come as a child. In shamanism, the understanding of child, self or play is the narrative for dancing into other realms. And so you can't access goddess consciousness, God consciousness, you can't access deity consciousness, angelic consciousness, if you're not willing to suspend your human box related ideas and go dance and frolic with the spirits in a playful and very generous way. Because you're opening yourself up to the willy ways of the spirit world. And that then comes back and then you can formulate that into a structure that supports humanity in a way that there's actually a process that you can, you know, like when I. With the whole spirit hacking, it's like there's a process to it. But for me to go into that space of learning that there was no process, it was just a dance, a skip, a jump, a cartwheel, you know, a spin around and then basically just falling into the world of all of these different beautiful energies and then coming back and Putting them together, like, oh, that's what that. That means. Right? And I think that's what the whole purpose of our whole evolution process should be about. Not evoluting, because we want to get some ego gratification for the part of our ego that's insecure. So it needs to get those accolades again to support the narrative of our childhood, of being good. Creating for the sake of our species to expand and grow should be the, I think, the cornerstone of truth that we all adhere to, which is, I'm actually contributing my skill to humanity, not because I need to be, like, glorified with my, you know, my bends and my Aston Martin and my powerful life that looks so cool and fabulous. I'm actually contributing to society for the purpose of our species to have a continuation and a thriving and a longevity.

I love that so much. And I think definitely coming through with that playful energy does allow you to get out of the confines, which keep you small on so many different levels. And then you're not in this place of duality or this has to only look this certain way. And then that expands your vision of what you're even capable of doing in this lifetime. Anyone I see that is creating massive change, is showing different parts of themselves that people didn't think could be connected, that you can be playful and sexual and spiritual and assertive and all of it at the same time. And they're not mutually exclusive.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think also, too, like, what I was explaining, I was talking to this guy the other day, and he was saying to me, like, why do I have so many problems in my relationship with my wife? And I said, do you want the honest answer? And he said, yes, I do. I said, well, the reason why you're having a lot of problems with your wife is because you're not taking acknowledgement of the triggers that she's been brought to bring to you. So her role is to trigger you in every single way possible. And I call it the challenge of love is actually the grace of love, right? And it's like, so, like, for my girlfriend, she triggers and triggers and triggers me, and then I laugh, and I'm like, ah. And then I leave the room, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go figure out that trigger, where that came from. What was it about? And so forth, and then thank her for. For irritating me or upsetting me or making me pissed off or saying something to me that really pushed me in a not so comfortable place. Because what she's doing is she's actually helping rip apart the wounded parts of myself and replace them with this liquid gold, this beautiful energy that allows me to rise even more in the majesty of who I am, which then allows me to do the same to her. And so I think in, you know, what I was saying to him is that instead of you getting mad at your wife and fighting with her and debating with her, thank her, and then go and deal with the trigger and then come back and say sorry for whatever you said to her, and then vice versa. And then we can really see the relationship of relationship is really being in a relationship. It's an enhancement of the soul. Not this agitated, confrontational. I have to have it all figured out. It's okay. I told him to just go to your woman and say, I messed up and I'm sad and just cry in her arms and let her hold you. I do that with my girlfriend often. I'll just crawl up on the bed and be like, baby, I'm coming in for a of weeks. Couple cry. And she's like, okay. And she opens her arms up, and I just go in and I snuggle and I cry for like an hour, two hours, you know, like a baby. I just. Well, like a child, you know. And the thing is, it's just so liberating to be held in that space. And I think that when we get out of that idea of, like, what we're supposed to be, what things are supposed to be, this whole kind of, like, you know, we're always wanting to put, like, what's supposed to be and what we. What we think it is, is our people can't let go of their childhood pain because their mom should have been like this. This is what a mom's supposed to be with. Or this is what a dad's supposed to be like. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry that, you know, that's your mom is what you got, you know, and that's what your mom was. It's just be okay with it. Like, my dad wasn't the dad that. If I was to compare my dad to every other dad that I was with when I was in the Boy Scouts, I can. I can tell you it's not a person. Pretty picture. Because that's not who he is. So I have to accept who he is and what I got and realize that it's not fitting in any kind of box. It's just what we get, you know, and then we take that, grow from it, learn from it, transform it, transmute it, and then bring Something beautiful and bring this butterfly spirit out that just has this amazing capacity to share that wisdom with the world.

So good. I love that. And from a deeper level, your soul chose it, even as difficult as it was, was. So I want to talk about horror movies because something that I have been passionate about sharing with my husband and with people is that these horror movies go into your subconscious and they create realities that normally would not have been in your mind. And I was really excited to read that you wrote about that in spirit hacking. So can you share with us the side effects of watching these horror and violent movies?

Yeah. So in the spirit hacking book, it's called Brainstorm. And it's not just horror movies. It's also the music we listen to. It's anything that is being either visually given to us or given to us through audible recognition. And where Hollywood is and where the movie industry is is they are looking to kind of boost us up in our adrenaline and, you know, and rev us up on sugar through their, you know, their Coca Cola and the Pepsis and the sugars they keep out of the movie theaters. Nothing really healthy there. And so then you have. That's just the movie industry. But then let's say you take a movie and you go on Netflix. You put it on, whatever. When you watch a horror film, you have to understand anything you watch. You're creating a visual training for your spirit. You're literally saying, here's a reality that exists. This reality now exists. So you know it. Now what happens is your spirit goes, okay, I know that reality exactly exists. How do you feel about it now? Your feelings are now being registered to your subconscious mind and to your spirit. So if you cry or you scream or you get scared or any of these things, that also gets registered. Now, let's say, for instance, there's dark energies nearby watching you, because they are. They watch you and they go, oh, she's scared of this. She's scared of that. She's scared of this thing. Look at the face of that monster that scared her. Let's go ahead and build a costume that holds that same frequency. And let's get in that costume and. And let's torment her in her dreams. Let's send more of those frequencies to her brain, because she's already accepted it. So she'll accept our frequency. So let's go ahead and send that frequency into her. And not only that, by you actually already agreeing to it, you've already given permission for that to exist in your brain space technology. That means that in that moment You've opened up a doorway of possibility for that to exist in your waking world. So therefore, you'll be much more aware of all of these violent acts that are taking place. You might even expose yourself. I mean, there's all of these really very, I would say, human aggressive narratives that we can create through watching scary movies. And it also feeds the system. So, you know, I. When I was growing up, you know, and I'm older, so I grew up with 16 candles and breathfix Club, and I grew up with Dazed and Confused and St. Elmo's Fire and, like, you know, all of these really feel good films. Ferris, Billy's Day and all this stuff. And then I, you know, those were the films that I was exposed to. And then once in a while, they threw in a scary movie like Jaws or they threw in something else like, you know, Freddy Krueger or something of.

This nature tormented my life.

Oh, it tormented me. Not only did it torment me, the beings in the underworld saw that I was scared of it and haunted me for five years in my dreams. Playing Freddy Krueger and having him.

That was my scary monster too. Always Freddy Krueger. And what I hated about it was he could get you during the light, too.

Yeah, it was annoying.

It was so frustrating. What do I do?

I actually went to an elder and was like, I can't. This. This. This spirit in the underworld has taken on the costume of Freddy Krueger. So every night I go to bed. I wake up in my bed. I wake up in my room. The sky is red. All of a sudden, I'm walking through the house. I hear the song singing in my house. And then I'm in a boiler room, and I hear. Hear the screeching of his things on the thing. And then I see him, and he's chasing me, and he catches me and he kills me. And it's horrible. You know, I mean, there's times where I woke up where he cut me and I felt the cut. When I woke up, it was like, that was how much I was making it real. Because the spirit in the underworld was like, yeah, we're gonna take this to the far extent. This is how we're gonna break down Shaman Durek. We're gonna break him down by utilizing his fears and turn them against him because he's paralyzed to them. So the elder said to me, you have to go into that dream world. So every night you go to bed, you say, take me to that horrible dream and go in there, and you need to beat his butt. Like, you have to go in and confront him and, like. Like, realize what he really is.

You're like, freddie, come over here. I want to talk to you.

Yeah. No, I went in. I was, like, doing flips and karate kicks and, like, you know, the whole bit. And I got him into this one area. It was like a warehouse. I got through the boiler room, and I jumped through this window. I ended up climbing out of a washing machine. I was in this house, and these people were sleeping, and he's like, see how easy it is that they sleep? And I was like. I was like, come on, Freddie. Find me. And I was like, opening up doors. And I'm like, take me here. And it took me to this warehouse, and there he was. And he was like, are we done playing yet? You know, and then he's like, you know, he's like, all I have to do is get you to believe that I can kill you in your dreams and you'll die in your sleep. And I was like, no, because you're not really Freddy Krueger. You're a spirit from the underworld. And guess what I am. I'm a child of light, and I've come to take you home.

Boom. Mike dropped.

And I walked towards him with love. And all of a sudden, he was like, no. And all of a sudden, his costume, like, disappeared, Almost like sparkles of energy, like fire dust. And there was this smoke being. And I said, I turn you back into your original form of the light. You are redeemed through my vessel. And all of a sudden, it was this man who suffered a lot. He went through a lot of pain and torment in his life in the early 1800s. And he was in the underworld, and he needed to tell his story. And the way the underworld works is that you have to become an agent of invoking fear in humanity by accessing their thoughts or creating certain thoughts. And then human beings don't question those thoughts. What I talk about in spirit hacking, that you literally actually go in and start giving these spirits permission to anchor into your consciousness. And so once I was redeeming him with love, he turned back into the light, into his original self, and he went back home to heaven. And it was a simple, like, thing. But the whole time he was doing this, for years, I didn't think about that because I was so consumed by his image that I was buying into Freddy Krueger, not buying into the fact that there's a lost soul, a spirit that didn't chose to go into light when it died. And it's been in the underworld. And its only way to survive in the underworld is to keep the underworld, you know, supplied with human fear. Because that's what keeps the darkness growing, is for us to keep reacting with fear against the darkness. Right. Which is also we're talking about in the book, which I think is really interesting too, because human beings, like, I'll meet these religious people and they'll be like, you know, saying things to people like, you're gonna go to hell and da, da, da. You are not an agent of the light. You are an agent of darkness. And they're like, what? And like anytime you condemn someone, someone call out their worst things and hold that as the truth of their being. You are a condemnation being. You are here to condemn people into darkness. You are not a love and light person.

Oh, right.

And it's not just religious people who say that. It's the haters on the Internet. It's the people who've decided that they're the moral police or grammar police or whatever that they are. And these people think that they have the jurisdiction to decide what's right or what's wrong. And if you're not doing what's right in my Bible, therefore I'm going to torment you and bring you down. And it's so sad because with social media you're, you're seeing it way more because in my normal life, like, I don't have anyone in my life that's like that at all. I would have cut them off light years ago. But in social media, it just creates this, like, this like, playing field that anyone can message on anything. So then you just have these, like, really deeply hurting souls that are so lost and so confused and are just trying to, to make someone who's of the light feel a morse of what they feel. So they're like, let me just throw my venom on you and see how much it can stick on. And then the more that we let it affect us, they're like, it's working.

Yeah, exactly. I call it free bullying. It's called free bullying. It's like anywhere, any social media platform you're on or any type of social experience you're going through in the wave of technology gives people the right to free bully because they don't have to take accountability for it because you don't know who they are. They can be using a screen name or an avatar and they're free bullying you. You know, and I think, you know, for me, I used to be okay with like, people just free bullying on my page, but Then it got really crazy recently and I just decided I'm just going to block every single free bully that's on that comes up on my page because I don't need that on my Instagram.

And you're holding a frequency of light. And if they can't, it's like your, your page is your altar. And if they're going to bring some bullshit to your altar, it's like, like, nope, that doesn't have space here.

Yeah, exactly. I like the way the words that I hear is like, your name's not dawn on the list. You're not coming in. It's like that, you know, it's like there's this old song I used to listen to called James Brown is Dead. And it was like a big house music song. And it's like, your name's not down, you're not coming in with like an English accent. And literally, I look at myself like a doorman, you know, and it's like, if you want to get into this temple of love and transformation and shamanic beauty and like stepping in, honoring women and honoring men and helping men emote and really learn the principles of what it means to be this, this powerful, awakened, you know, self realized person, but you're coming in with this stuff. You're not on the list. I'm sorry, I'm the bouncer and I'm the doorman and you gotta go.

Exactly.

And that's it. And they only get one shot because unless they create a new account, but they're not gonna ever come back. And.

Exactly.

So that's how I've been handling it.

Same here. You have offered so much incredible wisdom, so much light, so much sacred knowledge. I would love if you had any downloads or messages that you have for the collective listening to this podcast right now.

So my download for the collective is to be resourceful. Right. So we operate in a plateau of consciousness where we accumulate a lot of things that we really don't need. And the system is really clever at making us believe that something is missing from us or that's not there and that is not going to make us happy. You know, we're raised with the idea through the matrix that the more we have, the happier we should be because it gives us a sense of security. And I say down with that. The idea of having things that don't really actually invest in you. You could buy a picture for your house. That picture is not inspiring you or giving you some level of love or joy or teaching you something that's making you, when you look at that picture and you're like, yes, you get lit by that. Get that thing off your wall. Because the thing is, is that the more things you have collected that are not creating those registered responses through your sensorium that is telling you something that's great and wonderful and beautiful and investing in you, then those things are actually taking up energy and space, and you could replace them with things that actually do inspire you. So I think conscious living, conscious giving and being present with the fact that less is more subtraction is the key to true power and true peace. And when we recognize that, we begin to get out of that vacuous hole that the Matrix wants us to stay in, where we can become consumers, where we make money and they take money. We make money, they take money. The whole aspect of the Matrix is to get you to become a worker bee for the system so that the higher ups who actually built the Matrix with the help of the beings in the underworld, can sit in their lavish luxuries and never have to lift a finger because you're doing it all for them. So the consciousness is to learn, how do I become sustainable and independent and able to sustain my life without having to need so much to fill me up? And then choose those selective things that really have an impact on you. If you want to buy a car, if it has an impact on you, but do you need 10 or 20? So the thing is, I'm not saying to people that you can't have 20 cars if you want, but look at the understanding of hoarding from a place of insecurity. Do you really need to have the Manolos? Do you really need to have the Gucci bag or only you having it? Because it gives you some form of status in some form of accolades by society, that means it's only gonna make your insecurity even much more deeper, much more longer and much more progressive. So the idea is to heal the sickness within is really to subtract and see what is really there for what purpose. And if it's not there for a purpose where it's investing in you, get rid of it.

So, well said. Where can people connect with you and get your amazing new book, Spirit Hacking?

You can connect with me@shamandurek.com or Shaman Durek on Instagram, or you can check out the podcast at Ancient Wisdom Today. You can get the book at Amazon, you can get the book on Barnes and Nobles, you can get the book on pretty much any bookstore from here to there. And it's our book, everyone. It's our book, it's our talk, and it's our time to shine. And this is what it's about. And if you're not living your life shining and glowing and radiating everywhere you go and bringing that powerful lit energy and throwing the lit hammer down when you're not putting up with nonsense anymore, and lit rocking, which means getting things done in a beautiful way, then what are you doing? So live your life and live it good and live it well and live it with truth. And remember this, that this is your time now. And I love the movie Goonies because it's this one scene scene where they're deciding if they want to leave from underground. And there's this bucket. And he says, you know, we could take the bucket. It's Troy's bucket. We can take the bucket and be saved. But it's our time. It's our time now. Our parents have their time there. It's our time now. It's our time down here. So this is what I'm saying. It's your time now. It's your time right now. So what are you gonna do with that time? And whatever you decide to do, like, do all of it, like, just have the best time and reflect always on what it is that you love about why you're there. So if you're an artist or a writer or a doctor or an engineer or whatever it is you are, remember what inspired you to be that and go back to that energy and hold that space for yourself and remember that. And that's gonna just keep you going for a long, long time.

Oh, thank you so much for being on the podcast.

Thank you for having me, my love.

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