300: Mind-Body Healing with Goop Lab’s Dr. John Amaral

Namaste, it's Sahara Rose. And welcome back to the Highest Self podcast, a place where we discuss what makes you your soul's highest evolvement. Do you feel the shift from this third and final eclipse of this summer? I am feeling so much more light, so much more love, so much more grounding spiritual awareness, so much more of that space between the inhale and exhale, the sacred pause, the kapha. And that is actually my intention for this next month is to really sink into my kapha energy, the dosha, the ayurvedic energy, type of earth, of resting, of nourishment, of taking that pause, of not jumping to the next thing, not trying to make yourself busy because that's all you've known your whole life, but to really sit in that pause. Because truthfully, the past couple months for all of us have been extremely cathartic and confronting and all of the things there has been a lot of angels, anxiety, fear, tension, stress, I mean any shadow you name, it has come to surface in the past six months for us. And as I'll share in my solo cast, this is really the time to learn the lessons that you have been faced with in the past six months and to really see them for what they are and decide that you do not want to bring these into the new paradigm. Because this is the opportunity for us right now to either evolve or repeat. And if we can learn from that soul lesson, see it for what it is, the medicine that it gave us, we can transmute it into alchemy, which is what this once rose gold goddesses circle is all about. But if not, if we continue to ride with that story of I'm never going to be able to do what I love or I'm never going to be healed, I'm never going to find someone, I'm never going to be able to find my purpose, be creative, whatever that story is. And if you continue to find quote unquote evidence for it, then the lesson is actually going to repeat for you for the next year or even longer until you choose to look at it. So this is our opportunity right now to either evolve or repeat. So what are you going to choose? So evolving, finding your dharma, being in touch with your highest self, this all requires us to integrate the codes in our bodies. We are born in our bodies for a reason. We are born in these human vessels because. Because they are our temples, they are our homes, they are our conduits to experience this lifetime through. This is why it is of utmost importance to take care of your body. Through exercise, breath work, meditation, self care, practices, Ayurvedic practices, because your body is how you experience this world through. And when your body is convoluted, tense, dense, you're actually not going to be able to receive the messages that your soul and your spirit are giving you because there's too much density in your physical form. And as we transition into 5D consciousness, which is a higher frequency, a new way of being, the paradigm of love and of joy and of complete possibilities. Well, if we're bringing on all of the baggage from the old paradigm, the 3D paradigm of fear, duality, scarcity, which is the paradigm that we're in and we're shifting from, but if we don't remove the residue from our bodies, we're actually going to be stuck with it and we're not going to move forward. It's like moving into a new home, but bringing all of the things from your old home. Even if you buy all the new furniture for your new home, you still have your old couch, your old table, your old bed, your old rug that's so still dusty and dirty. So it doesn't matter what practices you, you do if you don't clean up what's already there. And that is the residue that you're carrying in your physical body. So this is why it's so important. You know, I've spent, you know, the beginning 10 years of my career focusing on Ayurveda, which is the world's oldest health system, the sister science of yoga based on the mind and body connection. I've written two books about it, Idiot's Guide to Ayurveda and Eat Feel Fresh. I highly recommend both, especially Idiot's Guide to Ayurveda. If you're interested in the mind, body connections, chakra, the auras outside the body, the koshas, oil pulling, tongue scraping dry, brushing, morning routines, nighttime routines, nutrition, all of those things, and Eat Feel Fresh for plant based, gluten free, alkaline Ayurvedic recipes. So for many of us, food and nourishment and exercise and our physical health is that gateway towards spirit. And it doesn't end there because when you start to eat healthier and take care of your body, you start to notice things, you naturally become more intuitive. You're not even trying necessarily, it just naturally arises. So maybe you were doing a lot of yoga and then you start to become interested in the other aspects of yoga or maybe it was from going vegan or maybe it was from running for a triathlon or something else that required to look at maybe your drinking patterns or smoking or eating sugar or emotional eating. And that triggered this entire awakening that you're experiencing right now. So this is why it's so important that we constantly go back to square one of our physical bodies and what are they telling us? Because our physical body is the manifestation of our soul and whatever is happening physically is happening spiritually, but we're actually seeing it in its most densest form in the 3D. So, for example, if I am holding onto a lot of energy that I'm not able to process, I'm going to get bloated because I'm not able to move that energy through my solar plexus axis. You know, if I'm having different hormonal issues, that's going to be directly related to of course, my sex drive, but also my creativity, abundance and pleasure, which are also related to the sacral chakra. So this is why it's of utmost importance to understand the mind body connection, Ayurveda and all other forms of mind body medicine, to integrate the codes that your body is telling you and to see them as the messages as they are. And then when you see that your body is always communicating with you to tell you what the pathway is for yourself spiritually, then you start to notice, instead of trying to medicate or ignore what your body is saying or, oh, how do I just get rid of the bloating? It's, well, what energy am I not processing? What am I stuck with? What am I holding onto if I'm feeling tired all the time, where do I not have emotional boundaries if I'm feeling lethargic? Maybe it's not the dairy. It could be. But also maybe you're holding onto a lot of people's energy. So we start to see that it's so much more than just calories in, calories out, it's so much more than just exercise more, exercise less, it's psychosomatic. It is the full body approach. So I am obviously very passionate about this and I'm always looking for the top experts in mind body medicine, energy healing, et cetera, to interview on Highest Self podcast. And I recently watch the Goop Lab show on Netflix. Some of you may have seen it. Goop is Gwyneth Paltrow's wellness brand and they have a show on Netflix which I really loved. And it was talking about different forms of healing. And there was one episode where they were really diving into this form of energy healing. You may have seen it with Dr. John Amaral. So I was Just so intrigued by this style of healing that he was doing. Essentially, people were lying on a bed and they were, they were flying, like energy was moving from their spine and they were literally like lifting themselves up out of the table in this almost like trance like state because the energy was shifting and moving through their bodies. So we all have the ability to do this, but when you move out the densities and stuckness and in your body, you're actually able to let the Kundalini energy move through you and your body becomes this free vessel. So I was very, very intrigued about this and to learn more about energy healing from John Amaral himself. And this is why I invited him to come on the Highest Self podcast. And I'm so grateful for him to share his wisdom with us. So in this episode, we talk all things mind, body, spirit. We speak about different exercise types for different bodies. We talk about how our forms, our physical forms are a manifestation of our souls. We speak about common questions, people, hormonal imbalances, how to deal with stress, how to deal with anxiety, how to deal with overwhelm. Just everything that I am feeling, the collective is experiencing right now. I asked him and he gave us such beautiful and elaborate responses with all of his, you know, decades of experience working with so Tony Robbins and Julianne Huff and so many incredible dancers, healers, motivational speakers, authors. And really coming back to we are souls. We are souls in these physical bodies. And we can't ignore that he started himself as a chiropractor and shifted to his energy flow formula because he realized that we're so much more than just these physical vessels and we really dive into that in this episode. So if you've seen Goop Labs, I'm sure you're super stoked for this. If not, definitely check that out after this podcast. And then without further ado, let's welcome Dr. John Moral to the Highest Self podcast. And before we get started, I have an announcement for you. Are you ready to channel your full embodied goddess to work that spiritual activism to stand up for the causes you truly believe in and embody your highest self? Well, if this is calling your name, I invite you to join us in my membership Community Rose Gold Goddesses, the sacred sisterhood collective all about embodying the goddess within. This month, we are working with Sekhmet, the lioness goddess, who is all about transformation and using that sacred anger towards change. We are drumming, we are dancing. We have my full four hour healing and embodiment workshop available for you, teaching you how to use your body as an instrument for healing, for transformation in a divine feminine way. We also have so many other workshops and master classes available for you, from my Awaken your powers masterclass with Shaman Durek to my Sex Money Magic masterclass with Alexandra Rockso, my Discover your Dharma 10 day audio course and dozens of other workshops including many from guests on the Highest Self podcast and member led workshops. So if this is calling your name and you'd like to join a community of 2000 plus spiritual soul sisters on our very own app where we're talking about all things spiritual, we're sharing what we're moving through at this moment and really supporting each other, then I invite you to join us at Rose Gold Goddesses. It is Rose Gold goddesses dot com. The link is in the show notes and I'm so excited to meet you inside. Welcome John, to the Highest Self podcast. It's so great to have you here.

Hi Sahar, it's nice to be here.

The first question I'd love to ask you is what makes you your highest self?

You know, my experience is that my highest self is always available. And I think what makes me my highest self is when I shut off all the conditioning and all the noise and all of that, which is kind of in the way, it's like a dirty windshield that I'm wiping away that which distorts what just is at the most high essence level. So I think what makes me my highest self is not what I do or anything that I could possibly do in this 3D world. It's what's already there that I just have to truly remember and find.

I love that it is always there for us and it's just removing all of those blockages that we hold onto that make us forget. And you are so adept at helping us remove that from our physical body. So a lot of us right now are feeling in fear, we're feeling defensive, we're feeling like we're going to get it wrong. Victimhood. Like all of the shadows are coming up and our bodies are feeling really tense. So can you share with us kind of what you are seeing for the collective and how it's manifesting in our physical bodies?

Yeah, we're in an intense time because there's a, there's an awareness that has come to the forefront of something that has been going on. It's something that we've known about, but now, now the light is being shined on, shined on. One of those places that we've kind of ignored or avoided for many people. And so the Collective, there was already the COVID pandemic going on. So there's already confusion and financial concern for people. There's a concern about health and am I going to be okay? How bad is this? And then you add to this now this situation that's happening within our country around justice and equality and social justice. And so what I feel in the collective is that there's just. There's a heaviness and a density, but at the same time there's an incredible possibility because the structure that's been there, there are like cracks in the, in the structure. And this light is starting to shine in. And when the light shines in the light of truth, the light of goodness, the light of just kind of possibility, it starts breaking up the existing stories and the beliefs and all the places that have been in the shadows. And so there's this like, there's this shadow aspect that's being sort of revealed. We're being asked to and many times faced with looking at some of the places that we've avoided. There's uncertainty and there's intensity, there's polarity, a highly charged and polarized environment. So there's a lot happening on a lot of levels. And so to be in this and at the same time continue to connect to and remember that which is spacious and free and possible for ourselves and our lives and for others, it takes a practice, it takes tools, it takes commitment to not get dragged into the heavy density, polarizing charge of it all, but at the same time weave in and out of it and actually be able to be productive and be adding value and be open and receptive. It's taking a lot of self awareness and it's taking a lot of conscious action right now.

Absolutely. I think one of the biggest things is that uncertainty that you mentioned, because before you could map out your year and be pretty sure like, okay, if September I'm going to go on this trip, I'm probably going to go on this trip. And now you don't know what's going to happen, what borders will be open, whatever it is. And because of this, we've never lived our lives like this, like up in the air. But in a way, it is the way of the new paradigm of just like completely being present and being in the moment. But most of us have not set up our lives to be so open and free. So it's like causing this like polarity and contradiction. So what tools and recommendations do you have for dealing with the anxiety that's arising, in fact, that you don't Know if your kids are going to go back to school in the fall or what your life is going to even look like a month from now?

I think that's a great question. I think that for decades I've been working with people from all walks of life, from all over the world with all kinds of different backgrounds and different situations that they're going through. Some people are going through extreme health crisis where they're cancering. Other people that have had literally lost limbs or had spinal cord injuries or been partially paralyzed, people that have had severe abuse situations and traumas, gunshot wounds, all kinds of things that I've come across. And so one of the things that I found is that we have a need for certainty for sure in our lives and to feel like there's a stability and that everything's going to be okay. But there's a foundational need for that. Like survival elements have to be there. At the same time, there is a high need to feel safe and in control for people. And the more you need to be in control or, or the illusion of control of your circumstances, the more anxiety you get when you can't control them. And the truth is we can't ever control the external circumstances we can interact with. We can shift our own internal being, which shifts the world out there. There's a tremendous amount of actually process that we can do, but we cannot control the global events that are happening around us. So I think right now the tools that are most critical are the ones that help us find more peace and find more safety and security in the uncertainty. So how do we navigate? And we can talk about this and go into some specific things, but how do we go about our lives when it feels very uncertain? How, what income, what are we going to do? What is the environment for the economics? What's going to happen in the world? What's going to happen? Is there going to be there? So we could just stack all of these uncertainties and it leaves us in a very vigilant, like protective fight or flight state. And we can have the same amount of uncertainty going on and the same amount of chaos going on all around us. And we can actually feel centered, we can feel at peace, and we can feel like we can move in all different directions. If we're cultivating our bodies, our minds and our connection to something higher, source or spirit or divine, whatever you want to call it, we can actually create an environment that allows us to be flexible and adaptable no matter what's happening. And that's this time is giving us an Opportunity to do that at a very accelerated pace because it's necessary right now. Or you will go into reaction, you'll check out of your body, you'll go into avoidance strategies or addictions. You'll do something to not feel because it's so intense. And it's not just an individual thing. It is collective. We are all in it. And you can't separate yourself out as like, you're like one tiny atom of H2O, our molecule of H2O in the middle of the ocean. You know, it's like you can't separate yourself out from the collective energy that's happening around us. But you can experience it, move with it, and then actually stay in a way peace and flow throughout.

So what can we do when we feel ourselves just going into that fear spiral to come back into our bodies in the present moment?

So there are some components of navigating our inner world and our physiology. There's really. There are really two kind of realms here. There's the. There's the dimension of subjective consciousness, conscious awareness, consciousness that is transcendent of the physical body that is there beyond this time space dimension, beyond this lifetime even. There's our essence or our transcendent self. And then we have our somatic physical, sensational body with our five, you know, our five different senses of sight and hearing and taste and touch, etc. We have the ability to start to navigate and cultivate our physical sensations and respond to our body and tune into what our body is actually telling us. Start to better understand and better respond to the subtle cues that our body's giving us about what's happening. Maybe you're not noticing this consciously on your cognitive level, but your body's giving you information and feedback. Maybe you're having a. Your body's having eczema. Or maybe that was the thing for me in the past when I was growing up. Asthma and allergies and eczema, where my body would have a somatic expression because I was disconnected from what was going on within me emotionally. So my brain and body had to give me some communication that I could actually pay attention to. So it gives me something physical symptoms are a way for your body to give you information about something going on that you may be missing on other levels. Then we have the other area, which is the subjective, just the ability to travel in our consciousness or expand and bring increased awareness to the consciousness and the energy all within and all around us. That's not on a physical level at all. It's purely on us on A subtle level, which it doesn't intersect directly in a way with the physical body. There's, there's like two different things happening there. So we can, we can meditation, and especially meditation, it's been used for thousands and thousands of years to begin to become aware of that which transcends the physical and begin to cultivate and expand our awareness in that realm. And then there are the practices of working with the body and intersecting with your. And those are your breath, the flow of energy in your body, the movement patterns that are going on with your body and your focused awareness on your body. That's a whole other area. And these are two, they're, they mesh together, but they're two different sort of pillars of how we need to approach our being. And both are critically important. Some people are. They meditate regularly, they eat right, they exercise, they do all the right things, but they have a very low awareness and feedback of their body and the sensations that their body is giving them and they override it and they push through. And maybe they do yoga regularly as a physical practice, but they're not connected on the sensations of feedback. And so they're kind of just checked out of their body, even though they use their body a lot. And then there are people that are very tuned in and connected to their body. Maybe they have a fitness regimen, they eat well, they really focus on the three dimensional sort of body aspects of things. But they don't have a practice of cultivating the inner experience of traveling in their consciousness and expanding, which is more on the meditative side. So the goal or objective is to be an integrated human being is to actually be developing both of those. And so there needs to be a practice of some kind of meditation and expanding that kind of awareness and any of your practices of how we connect to and connect to and experience our body and its feedback.

So can you share with us some of the energy flow formula and any practices that we can do of that to ourselves at home? Possibly, yeah.

One of the things that I did when the Netflix show with Gwyneth Paltrow, the Goop Lab show came out, and I had a lot of exposure on that to people from all around the world reaching out and saying, like, what can I do? What can I do? Is I created a free seven day course basically, which is like called a fight or Flight to Flow challenge. So anybody can go on my website, johnamorel.com, they can just sign up and take that. You have 10 days to go through the seven day challenge and it takes you through a process of a bunch of different exercises that involve using your focus and your breath and using your touch and using movement patterns to begin to cultivate more flow. And so people can do that, so anyone listening or watching can connect into that. But just for right now, just this most simple practice of beginning to bring your attention and focus to your body sensations and feedback. All you need is your hands, and it's just literally just touching your body and noticing. Let's say you have a place of physical symptom or distress and you're feeling, let's say maybe it's a headache or maybe it's a tightness in your throat, or maybe you feel a clenching in your gut, or you have an anxious kind of uncomfortable feeling in your body and it feels like fingernails on a chalkboard kind of energy inside that anxious, kind of irritated. Some people experience it as a vibration or a tone or a sound even. Some people experience just a physical intensity or pain somewhere in their body or general regions of their body. We can take our hands and use our hands. You can think of like a stethoscope where the palms of your hands almost like the receiving apparatus. The truth is, we don't really even need to touch that part of our body as we develop the awareness. But at first it's very powerful just to put your hands on a part of your body that feels compressed or tight or tense or irritated. So if it's like your neck, you can put your hand there, or maybe you put your hand. Sometimes people at they're feeling tension in their neck, but really there's more going on in the energetic center of the throat, you know, in this area around, you know, the shock or the energetic center, which is tied into the fifth, you know, the fifth chakra. So voice and expression, higher self connects into this and expressing that in the world. So there are these correlations. As we start to put our hands on our bodies and touch different areas, we become aware that, what do I feel here, what do I sense here? So if you're putting your hands on your neck and you're feeling and you notice like, oh, I keep getting neck pain, I keep getting tension there. Identify it, notice, touch the area and see what does it look like? What's the sense of it? Does it feel like it's in a specific area? Is there a shape there? Do I see a color? Do I feel like it's compressing in? Do I feel like expanding out? Does it feel like it's moving from that place to another place? Is there an epicenter to it. Does it feel like the pain or tension that I'm experiencing is separate from me somehow? Like something got jammed in there or something was being pulled or tugged on from outside of me? And we can start to, like, hone in and feel and identify, hey, wait a minute. This area feels somehow foreign or separate from me or, oh, this area. I feel connected here. But it feels like. And you can start to fill in the blanks, you know, in your own consciousness. Once you identify what an area feels like that's been this uncomfortable for you or feeling like it's been a cause of tension for you or a cause of distress for you, you can take a breath in through your nose and out through your mouth while you're touching the area and notice, do I feel more connected here? Do I feel less connected? If it feels. Sometimes what happens is part of our body that is giving us a hard time feels actually separate somehow from us. It feels like a foreign object or it feels somehow like we're removed or divorced from it being a part of us. I can't even tell you how many times I've worked with people and I'm having them touch a part of their body and they're putting their focus there. They actually remark, you know, wow, it feels like almost like an appendage that doesn't belong to me. Like, maybe it's an arm or an elbow or some part that they've injured. And it feels so somehow foreign that it feels like something is happening to them that. That they have no sort of control over because they can't even find or feel that in their awareness as part of them. It feels like it's an outside force doing something. Like, if you've ever had the experience that you just say, I wish this would just go away. I, like, I don't care if someone, like, cuts my freaking arm off or it cuts my leg, you know, I just want this pain, I want this intensity to go away. And so when you touch or tune into a part of your body where you're having an intense or even if it's a more subtle, like, symptom or feedback because symptoms are an opportunity or a call from our body to say, hey, pay attention. Something needs to change here. Something needs your focus and awareness. If you keep avoiding it, keep overriding it, having people try to work on it, do things to it, stretch it out, put some salve on it, take some medications to make it go away, you have an adversarial relationship with this part of your body that you're Trying to control or manipulate or make fall in line with your objectives of where you think you need to go or what you think needs to happen. Does that make sense? And so many people are actually trying to treat their body like more of a mechanical device that they want to make work for them in the way that they want to make it work. So I have an agenda. I want to get these things done. I want to push through. I want to make it happen. It's like my body is. This is a nuisance that's holding me back from what I want to do. So by putting your focus and attention onto your body and starting with compassion. And this is the key. With compassion, with curiosity, with an honoring of the sacredness of all feedback and sensations that your body gives you with a gentleness and a kindness, you start to touch and hold different parts of you take a breath in and let it out and feel and sense. What do I notice here? What do I feel? Is there a sense? Is there a sensation beyond just the physical? If I go into that, what feels like pain, or if I draw myself out and I look at it from outside my body as if I'm visiting from outside and actually see or feel that area, what do I notice there? And sometimes people will be like, oh, my God, I feel, oh, this part is so sad. And then it's. All of a sudden, there's an awareness like, oh. And next thing you know, there's some tears and there's a breath, and there's just a release energy. Because a majority of the symptoms that we're having are the inability to move or express emotional content or information. And your body is holding energy that you have built up as you went into fight or flight. I say fight or flight to flow. Because when you're in fight or flight, you're holding. You're in a tense state. And that means your muscles and tendons and your spinal cord and your spine, your soft tissues, your fascia, everything tightens up. And it tightens up because you're binding up energy, because it doesn't feel safe. So you're holding on, you're in vigilance. And when you finally connect, there's an expression. All emotional expression involves sound and motion. So you move, you take a breath into that area, you feel it, you let out a sound. And that sound, you want to match the feeling or quality or vibration that comes on into your awareness when you're touching that area. And if you match it right on, what happens is it sends, like a tuning fork kind of feedback to Your brain, the part of your brain, your cortical area of your brain that can actually register and notice and make up a meaning or an association with what that is. And sometimes you have a memory of something that happened that you forgot about. It might just bring a sense of wholeness and a sense of, wow, I'm actually in dialogue with this part of me now instead of. I feel separate from this whole part of me, and I'm trying to do something to it. And amazing healing can happen because healing is a movement toward wholeness. And if you have a fragmented part of yourself, which is energy bound up separate from the flow of the whole system, it's like an eddy to the current, and it's just kind of settling. It's either moving very subtly or it's moving rapidly and intensively, but it's compressed into an area of your body, which we call a standing wave. When you take a wave of energy that's fluidly moving and you push it into a small area, it builds up intensity until it creates like a. It has nowhere to go. So it's held or compressed in that area and contained. And then our brain thinks it's separate. So it doesn't register what that energy even is anymore. It just feels like a separate thing. Like a physical dense or hollow or some object or something separate. So this is like a way that we can start to move. A simple practice of just put your hands on your body, breathe into your nose, out through your mouth. So grounding breath brings you more present. Focus on that part of your body. Notice what do I feel, sense or experience here? Is it nothing? If it's nothing, that's something. That's a disconnection. If you feel like, I don't feel anything here, I feel nothing. Okay, just say state it right here. I feel nothing right here. I feel disconnected from my body. Right here. I feel blank. Fill in the blank. And it could just be. I feel so disconnected or separate from my body that I have no idea what I'm even feeling. And just state it out loud. I have no idea what I'm feeling. I feel. And then just take a breath. And then you might notice something comes onto the radar because by acknowledging where you're at, it opens up a window in a way or a doorway for something to come onto the radar because you've acknowledged the truth. But if you don't connect to your body, you don't actually ever take your focus and attention on. Like, what am I noticing here? What's really happening here? Let me put my Attention and focus here and breathe here and just see. Then you may have just kind of a story about it that is in a way divorced or separate from the actual feeling or sensation that's there. And for a lot of people, they did learn how to override or disconnect from feelings and sensations. Because let's say someone had sexual abuse, let's say somebody had a traumatic accident or incident or something happened, physically or emotionally, whatever that was very difficult to be with. We develop a strategy to not feel that by just tensing up, going into fight or flight, binding up that energy and then going into our head, which is make up a meaning, make up a story that helps us better navigate and get through it. And this is why a lot of people, when they're under regression, hypnotherapy or going through therapy process, they remember experiences or going gaining bodywork, they might remember an experience of some kind of abuse or some situation that they had totally forgotten about. Because as a safety mechanism, the fight, flight or freeze mechanism overrides the higher brain awareness and checks you out. So that seven day challenge is a way that I take you very in depth through. Each session is between 12 and 20 minutes and there are seven of them. And I take you through a process where you can learn to actually, through the actual experience, learn to reconnect to your body and start to initiate flow. But the basic premise of where I always start is connection. And that means connection to the body. In the way I'm describing, I love.

That it's just having that first initial conversation with your body, I think so quickly we're like, oh, my neck hurts. But like, is it pulsing? Is it throbbing? Is it this? Is it that you don't really go so far, you just feel it's uncomfortable. So let me go get an adjustment, let me go get a massage, let me go put whatever on it and fix it. Instead of, you know, the same thing with food. If you actually ask your body, like, what are you hungry for? What do you want to eat? It actually may surprise you. So I'm wondering if just that awareness of it is what heals it or after you're aware, let's say my neck feels throbbing, Then do the different textures mean different things? And how can you tell the difference of what is actually like physical? Like it's caused from me being on my phone too much. And what is like emotional related to a throat chakra, for example?

Yeah, that's actually a great question. So you begin to know as you explore and as you discover more so at first it could be very vague. It's something that hasn't been developed for a lot of people. So the difference between what's a physical, mechanical thing, what is more of an emotional thing, are they totally tied together? How about the effect of chemicals on your body? Someone goes out partying and they get a hangover, that's a chemical stress. You feel a physical sickness, you feel a physical achiness in the body if you put certain chemicals into the body and foods that people eat, et cetera. So it's all usually kind of mixed together, but there is generally a primary thing in each situation. So let's say, for example, somebody experienced someone was grabbed as a child, they were grabbed and shaken or something grabbed by the throat. I've had people grab by the throat and they wonder later in life, and they're now in their 30s and they're seven years old, a caretaker or a parent or something grabbed them by the throat and said, you just shut up and you hold it. And so they have a difficult time expressing their truth feeling. They can be articulated because there's been this like holding. So there was a physical part of it, there was an intense emotional part of it. And then they learned how to sort of at the same. Every time they got into a confrontational situation, they learned how to sort of like shrink down even if they wanted to express. Because there was this visceral, encoded, embedded traumatic experience there that even though the cells and tissues that were there years ago are all replaced every two to maybe seven years, everything is all new. The intensity in your limbic system and your, you know, basically in your brain and body of high emotional charge events is retained until it's finally, you know, integrated and discharged somehow through some kind of healing work, some kind of self awareness, body healing therapy work. So things are held for, for oftentimes for a long time. And it can be hard to kind of tease out like what's what. So you're, you may be wondering, like, I have tension in my job, for example, or I have tension in my upper chest, in my lung area, or someone is holding attention around their solar plexus or in their pelvis. And they're wondering, is this because of some. I was in an auto accident. Maybe it was the physical compression that happened when I was hit. What I found is that for a lot of the people that I worked with over the years and still continue to, who were in auto accidents, typically around, you know, like, not typically every time around the time of an accident, even if somebody broadsided Somebody rear ended them. You know, even if you're just minding your own business, just going along, and someone just comes along and hits you, if you look at your life, what was going on in that exact moment in the context around that accident, there were always other things that were happening where you were either you weren't fully present because you were somewhere else, you might have peeled out of the driveway, taken off, and you were just in a fight with a partner or something, and there was high emotional charge. And then somebody ran into you or you ran into someone else. And there's all this entangled stuff going on around what seemed like just a physical thing. And people think, well, the disc was herniated or ruptured and it's usually the C5 and 6 area in the lower neck area. When auto accidents and whiplashes happen many times, especially rear end accidents, that just so happens to be the area around that throat and the fist chakra. It also happens to be tied into the energy around confrontation and conflict and inability to express anger or rage can bind up and hold up and people kind of compress in here. So a lot of many, many times when I'm going through a history with someone, I'm going through a comprehensive journey back through their, you know, past experiences. And I'll look, oh, you had an auto accident, you know, like 17 years old. And they just kind of put that on their mild. And then I'm like, well, what happened? They were like, well, I was going like 55 miles an hour and you know, I walked out of it and have any injuries, but the car was totaled. That wasn't mild. Okay, first of all. And second of all, what was happening around that time? I started asking some questions. All my parents were going through a divorce and this happened and that happened. And I was breaking up with this person and I. And all this stuff is like encoded around. And then they feel like they. Well, I saw an MRI or an X ray and you know, 15 years later, there's degeneration in that area. So it must be physical now. Well, what's happened is there's a physical component because there was injury, but then the pattern stayed locked into the system for years. And the whole posturing and the breathing pattern, the expression pattern was all distorted. And then you start to see physical ramifications down the line. In many cases, sometimes it is super intense physical where someone breaks a leg or they, you know, they have the kind of injury. But then what happened when you broke a bone, you know, what was breaking apart in your life that you couldn't process or feel or experience fully and you had to have a physical expression of it. So I've never ever experienced working with tens of thousands of people, something isolated or existing in a vacuum that didn't have a thread into some other aspect of your being, life and relationships.

It reminds me of, you know, in the Vedas they say that there's like different layers that the universe is trying to warn you. So at first it's like a tap and then it's like a punch and then it can be like a collision. But it's that same thing that you may not have listened until it manifested into something so huge and so physical that you have no choice but to listen totally.

And if you look back through, at the, you know, at the Vedic texts and scriptures and you look back through the teachings and the writings, you will see that the energetic bodies, which in those teachings are called the koshas, are, you know, five different layers of the energetic system that go from, you know, the anamaya kosha, manamaya kosha, there's all these different, they go all the way up to Anandamaya, which is bliss body. So you have basically this infinite interface with the infinite essence. And in the Hindu teachings it's atma or atman. You have this, you know, this divine connection. But it's like the physical body is in a way the outermost shell and the outermost shell which is the densest. And it is the. Where you interface with the physical plane and the three dimensional world. And then you go into the more subtle bodies which are taking you more into the emotional and the mental. And then you finally get to the higher spiritual body which is the anonymya. And there's also like the mental body there which is like that. There's a higher part of the mental body which is the subtle body connected into your sense of who you are becoming. And it could either be more relevant, it could be more focused more on the physical world and the physical reality and your identity. But the higher part of that, the deeper part of that, you start to actually see and experience more of your divine nature. So there's this whole, and I'm, you're nodding as I know you're familiar with. So you have this whole infrastructure of the subtle system. I see it as seven layers. I call it the energy blueprint. And it moves from your life force, which is the interface of the physical, where the physical is the outermost shell. But then you have your life force body which is where you process and Experience all this visceral communication, everything's under the radar of your conscious mind until you develop conscious awareness of it. And this is where a lot of the stuff that I was just talking about lies. It's like information encoded in the fascia and in the whole connect, you know, the connective tissue matrix of your body, it's organs and you know, the surrounding tissues around all these different organ systems, deep into the core of your body. And then you have your emotional body, your mental body, then you go into like your relational body which ties more into your heart. These go up through the chakra system as well. So each one is related to a higher chakra. You get into this area that ties into the higher mind, then you go into soul and infinite consciousness. So the fact that we are a multi layered energetic being and we're having this interface with the physical world and we're experiencing these physical symptoms and feedback from the physical world, that's where we can oftentimes experience a lot of what's happening on these more subtle levels, but they're muted until we develop more of a conscious awareness of the physical system. And that helps us integrate what we're experiencing on higher levels with this world we're living in. Some people definitely have a highly developed awareness of the subtle non self transcendent aspects, but they're totally checked out of their body. Some people, like I was saying at the very beginning of the conversation, are totally checked into this like monomycosha and these lower like subtle bodies or the life force energy or the emotional body, they're very connected in there, but they're totally checked out of a higher, deeper, more transcendent state. The idea, and this goes back to people like Sri Aurobindo, who was the developer of Integral Yoga, brilliant philosopher and a very awakened consciousness being. You have people like that that brought really the transitioning from. He grew up in India, went to the uk, went from the UK back to India and brought Eastern and western together. And I definitely approach more like that. I want to know the western, I want to know all the scientific, like what's happening on the physiological and physical basis and what is the science. I want to know the quantum and all the most recent physics and I also want to know what are the practices and what are the ancient, more spiritual practices that have been around for thousands and thousands and thousands of years and how do we bring those together?

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Body practice, I think that the most critical thing is connection first. So are you aware of what your body needs and wants and are you connected to the rhythms and cycles and are you in sync with your body? Do you really truly need to rest and you want to push through because you have a concept that if I don't do this I'm not going to look a certain way and then I'm going to XYZ and you can go down the rabbit hole of total suffering because of self worth and all these things or is it like does it feed my soul and my being to energize myself in this way? Doing these practices and this is where you have to explore. Certainly you can do a yoga practice where you can just do the, just do the postures and do it for more of a physical stretch and for an experience of more physical bal and to feel more just at ease in your body. But that doesn't mean you're doing a holistic practice that it really is integrated and so you can lift weights and you can do it precisely to develop certain muscles so you can look a certain way, but you can be kind of disconnected from what your body really needs there and what practices would actually serve you the best. So what I found is that people are so different and everyone's got their own, they really got their unique blueprint and you have to find what supports you. I find that some weightlifting or using some kind of bands or resistance training is really helpful for a lot of people. For most people in combination with some kind of like stretching, elongating motion. So whether you're doing some, I mean I really like. I mean I think Pilates is a great, you know, or Pilates based motion is great for core strengthening. I think yoga, all different types of yoga are amazing. I find that some kind of explosive training where you're jumping or you're using some kind of expression that moves like dance is fantastic. I know that you know Julianne Hough who's been a really long time actually now friend of mine and we worked together to help and I kind of guided and helped in the process of where she created her kinergy work so we could integrate breath and movement patterns to create certain shifts in consciousness as you're going through. So movement and explosive expression. Sound, Sound is really important. So those are all important things to do with your physical body. But the question is, are you tactically doing it and just like trying, you know, just doing different things because it like superficially is going to make your body tone in a certain way or is it go deeper? Are you doing this for a more integrated whole feeling in your body and what grounds you? Are you pushing too hard or are you not stretching quite enough to hit that place that really pulls you beyond a certain level of inertia? What do you need? It depends. And you have to really discover that nobody can really tell you the right way. You have to find who are the teachers you resonate with what feels right to you and good in your body. Some people need Ashtanga yoga, they need Hatha. Some people need hot yoga. Some people, they need yin yoga. They need to do some very, very subtle, very, very gentle approaches. It might be a combination. Again, there's no formula that works for every one person. You have to find your own blueprint. Really, that's something that I'll be offering and bringing in later this year is a whole exploration around your energetic blueprint. And where you find your practices that work best for you are going to be built around where your resources are and where your challenges lie. And everyone is different. So once you have a better sense of that, it's easier to know exactly what you need and what you don't.

And I think so many of us have heard, like, push yourself, like, surpass your limits. You can do it. So we think to really be exercising is to. And in some ways, let's say you're like, I don't know, training for a triathlon or something like that. That will cause you. You have to force yourself. But I also see that there's this huge movement of, like, low impact, shorter workouts because so many specifically women have hormonal imbalances. So what do you see happening with that of women's hormones and how that shifts our movement?

I mean, I think I love your questions. I think that, like, I'm. I'm friends with a woman, Lauren Roxburgh, or Lorox as she's known. All right. And so she guides people with a lot of foam rolling, a lot of fascial work, and also rebound. Rebounding. I'm a big fan of rebounding. I think, you know, you're moving your body, but it's low impact and you're getting your heart rate up. And it has so many benefits because it's activating movement of Qi in your body. I'm also a big fan of qigong. I have a background in martial arts, and for years, before I even discovered chiropractic or healing and got into any of this, I was doing qigong on a regular basis. So, you know, when it comes to women's hormones, like, I mean, there are so many factors here. There's. There's so many. There's the environment and diet and there's chemicals in the foods that we're eating. And there are the stresses. More than anything, it's the stress that people are under. So when you are stressed out, your cortisol goes up. Usually if you're not sleeping well Your melatonin levels are affected because the relationship between melatonin and cortisol is an inverse relationship. So melatonin at night goes up. It's tied into tissue repair and dealing with antioxidants in your body and oxidation levels and stuff. If cortisol doesn't drop down and melatonin doesn't go up, it's difficult for your body to repair and recover. So that's one thing. A lot of people are familiar with Joe Dispenza's work. He does a lot of meditations and processes with like, activating the pineal gland. I think that's like great work help. And he also talks about the pineal melatonin relationship. You have these master glands, you have the pituitary and the thyroid, and you have high cortisol for prolonged periods. Fight or flight for prolonged periods messes with your hormonal system. And you can't stay in a vigilant fight or flight state for long periods and have your hormonal system work properly. It affects higher cortisol levels, affect how you burn fat. I mean, there are so many factors here. So every individual, every woman is different. But I will tell you from my experience that when you reduce the stress in your system and you start to truly discharge that fight or flight state through connection and processes that help you release and relax. So some of those are in the seven day challenge. Again, when I work with people in either events or in private work, that's extremely high level, where I can accelerate that massively. So people can. We can shift. It's like taking the body and taking it into a state that if you would go on a vacation in about five or six days in, you realize, oh my God, I was so stressed and I didn't realize how much I was holding. And finally you're like, oh, I'm relaxing. We can create that in 20 minutes and just completely reset that whole fight or flight system in the body. And suddenly there's this big release and the whole hormonal system shifts and changes. I'm not saying that that's the cure for hormones. It's just we know that one of the biggest factors in every single condition that you might be experiencing is your level of stress. And it's not necessarily just your stress because of what's going on in your life. We started out talking about the cultural environment and the collective field. And we're in this like super high frequency, Especially if you're watching news and tuning into these frequencies of high polarity and high charge. Your nervous System calibrates to it. And so it's going to affect your hormonal levels and it's going to affect your adrenaline cortisol response, it's going to affect your body's tissue regeneration, it's going to affect your ability to sleep, it's going to affect your immune system. So we have to start, I think, there. And what are all the practices that we can do to decrease the amount of time we spend in a state of overwhelm, fight or flight, when we might be overwhelmed? Because everything that's going on and we go like, yeah, great, John. It'd be nice if I could just shut it all off, but it's not stopping. I have my kids, I have my this. I have my dad. I'm out of work right now. I have all these things going on. Like, how do you just shut that off when it's really happening? And my challenge to you would be, it's really happening and it isn't. It's a paradox because in this exact moment, is your life in danger? Is there an animal, like, ready to jump and attack you, or are you sitting in your house on your couch or in your bedroom or on a yoga mat or wherever you are, and in this exact moment, nothing is actually attacking you. You, Everything that you're experiencing, all the uncertainty, all the numbers in the checking accounts, which are just numbers in the checking accounts, there's no physical anything there. Is that going to have the power over you, to put you into a massive stress and keep you in a massive stress mode? Or can you develop through awareness, through compassion and kindness, through breathing, through meditation, and through working with your body in a productive way? Can you start to unhook the anchors and the triggers to this world out there that is illusory. It feels like it's really happening, but the majority of it is not even real. And then start to actually cultivate a sense of peace and a sense of groundedness and a sense of centeredness in the midst of all of it, and be the sort of the eye of the storm or eye of the hurricane, because that's the only way. No matter what you do in the outer world, you can do all the right stuff. But if you are feeling inside like, I'm not safe, I'm not okay, I don't care if you're doing every exercise and taking every supplement and seeing every practitioner and working with every hormonal balancing program, if you're in that state, nothing is going to truly, truly move the needle all that much. It's all Going to be just coping, not true healing. And so that you have to do yourself and you have to make the changes you have to make in your life and in your body that nobody can do for you.

Yes. This world is Maya. It's all the illusion. And as soon as we realize this, we're not so fixated into what is actually happening, but we can zoom out. And I think a lot of people, especially at this time, feel a lot of guilt around doing that. They feel like, oh, well, everything's crumbling, so I have to, like, know all of the pieces of it. And I found myself doing that, especially this past month. And I'm like, you can't solve a problem by being so in it because then you just become part of it. You're just tumbling along in it. Have to zoom out. And I know a lot of people are having, like, online confrontations, right? Like, maybe it's on Facebook or with a bunch of strangers in an Instagram comment, and it can feel like that attack is very real. It could almost feel like you're in a fistfight with someone, even though you're basically writing words in an invented language to a person that you will probably never meet. So how do you, like, do you have any tips or tools, like, when you're in that, like, vigilant confrontation state to just, like, kind of zoom out and ground into your body again?

Yes. When that's happening, what we're experiencing is we're experiencing the subtle. The subtle world of, you know, consciousness. There's no distance or time in consciousness, and most of what we are is consciousness. And there's a little bit of the physical body right in this. In this three dimension, but we exist in multiple dimensions. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and more dimensions. Like. Like, so when we're experiencing that, we're feeling that whoever that person is or that group of people, we're actually tuning into them as if they're, you know, we're. We're all in this soup together. So it's very much. We're feeling it through our. Through our being, and then we experience it in our body. The only way we experience it in our body as like a fight or flight trigger is if. Is if there's a part of us that actually gets hooked. Right? There's some. We have like. It's like. It's like we have the one part of the Velcro and the other part is like, you know, or we have one tuning fork that. That resonant energy pings. And then this part of us Inside us that's going. Because for some reason either we're like, I am so not that I do not have that cruel, evil, whatever part of me I am. I'm a conscious, you know, kind human being. How could someone be like whatever, a troll, a hater, like this? And so the little part of us that actually can be like ram, you know, gets triggered because we have that we have. That's the yin Yang symbol, right? There's like, there's. The yin Yang symbol has like a little black dot in the white, A little white dot in the black. There's always a little bit. Even if it's one atom of everything in us. Because we are, we're. We're a microcosm of the whole universe. So so when we get triggered, it's really because that energy somehow is. We're not okay with it. So we're like in defense now. We're polarizing or we're fighting back now. Is there a time to take a stand and time to draw the line and say no or yes, absolutely. So we can use that charge sometimes to direct us in a positive way, but we can also get hooked. And I think what you're describing is when it becomes so real, your whole physiology is viscerally hooked in. And you're like. And you're processing it and you're in your mind, it's like you're chewing on it. You're like, how should I respond to this? And that whole thing? And it's now consuming you. And now how do you unhook yourself from this experience? How do you pull out of it? Well, one is to use the same strategy I was talking about earlier. It's actually touching your body and feeling where you're hooked. Where are you triggered? What actual location? Is it in your heart? Chest, solar plexus area? Is it in your gut? In your pelvis? Is it in your throat? Is it in your head? Put your hands there, breathe. Make this sound like, oh, you know, allow yourself to fully express the sound of that charge. What happens is people are like, okay, I'm above all this. Meanwhile, you're getting hooked into it. So you're in here like this, fighting. But part of you is like, I am greater than all of this. I am better than this. And I'm. And I'm going to. Let's kind of pretend that I'm looking at it from a greater than. And I'm bigger than this. I'm more mature, I'm more evolved than this. And so now you're in this Internal battle. Because part of you just wants to just go at it, and the other part of you wants to just help this person see and elevate and expand and see the world from a more expanded place. And the judgment is there in the projection of how could someone be so unconscious? So all this can be going on and meanwhile you're no more evolved in that moment than that other person in a lot of ways, because you're just as hooked. You're triggered. Now you're in this like you're mud slinging back and forth. So make this sound, express it. The sound and the feeling and the quality you don't want to make because you don't want to be that. Let it come out of you like the rage, the charge, the intensity, the growl, the moan, the wail. And let yourself dissipate some of that energy. Because being with what is and expressing what is always is the path to wholeness. It's always the path to more consciousness. So playing pretend like, I am not. I'm somehow better than these people and I have to like. And I. Or that I have to, like, elevate myself and I have to not get drawn into this and I have to be above. This can actually be your own ego screwing with you where it doesn't allow you to really express and doesn't. I'm not saying go and just charge on the people. I'm saying go out, Go out. Go into your bedroom, shut the door. Find that place. Wail and moan and cry for a moment. Feel the unjust experience of what's going on, how sad you are, how angry you are. Kick and scream and move around and let it move out of your body. It's like a kid having a tantrum sometimes has to just move through and then they can get to the other side. So we may have to do that. And then the other side of it is, yeah, you may also need to just do that first for a moment and then reset yourself. Now you go within. Now you can meditate and expand. Now you can feel your heart. Now you can breathe into your heart. Now you can send true gratitude, not like fake gratitude where you're just like, let me just send my heart out to the world. Meanwhile, you want to, like, strangle someone that doesn't like that doesn't really. You know what people are going to get and they're going to feel from you is they're going to feel the congruence in your being. And so you got to deal with your.

It's like the bless your light aka fu.

Yeah, 100%. And it's like. And don't, you know, getting coachy with someone. It's like, let me coach you on how I think you, you know, it's like, shut up. Just like, we gotta be right now with our. With all of ourselves. And I think this is a great. That's what's. One of the things that's happening right now is there's a authenticity and a true kind of ripping off the facade. We went into a big period of social media kind of glossiness that happened as Instagram and some of the social media in Facebook started building since the last decade or so. And it got to a period of at a height of just show this beautiful life and beautiful experience. People are getting depressed and there's all this research on this that people that spend more time on Facebook were more depressed because comparing their lives to everyone else's and everyone's just like, over that. So there's just been this big reorganization in society. It's happening right now and it's happening on social media. We just have to get real. We have to get, you know, we have to be with the real experience that we're having and own it and learn more about it and learn more about where our charges are and where our triggers are. We have to learn more about where our biases are and really start, you know, like unhooking. But to do it, you have to, like, visit. You have to visit those places. And I think we have to start there and then we can elevate and expand, but just to transcend and not actually go into the kind of the muck and the gunk can lead to a lack of integration where you're like part of these really expanded. You're really elevated, you really feel open and you feel like a high conscious being. And then you have these parts that are just pushed down and shoved away. And that's where people get physical symptoms. They get. The body is like, yeah, we're not fully integrated here. We're going to have a little conversation here. And it's going to be in the form of intense pain or intense anxiety or whatever it is. And so it's going to be calling you to get real, to get in sync with what's really going on with you. And that this is a process. No amount of exercise, no amount of yoga, no amount of controlling your diet, no amount of doing all the right things and cutting out all the bad things is going to get you to be more authentic and more real with yourself. That is A practice of self awareness, starting to truly make a commitment to deepening your awareness of yourself and then starting to transcend that self. And that's a spiritual journey.

Yes. And so many people are talking right now, especially about 2020 being that shift from 3D to 5D consciousness and our bodies becoming lighter and less and less of the density somatically. So what do you see happening to us and what shifts are you seeing in our bodies as we are elevating into these new paradigm beings?

These are great questions, Sarah. These are really great questions. I see that people are, they're accelerated in how, in how they're moving. When I'm working with them personally on the table with people, or in my workshops and events and even in the courses, I have some online offerings that are tied to the back end of the seven day challenge. So an opportunity for people to do this. Discovering the fundamentals of energy program or higher heart and brain activation. I have a couple of different little brief online courses and the feedback I've been getting has been amazing. People are getting it. I feel like we've come to a point where we see the climate situation, we see what's happening in our culture and different cultures around the world. The consumerism has gotten just out of control. People are seeing, especially the Gen Z and some of the millennial generations are recognizing that like, this isn't sustainable. This is not the kind of life we want to live. We're not, we're not trying to just like deplete the resources of the world around us and destroy the habitat that we need to grow in and that our kids need to grow up. And so that is like already there. And so what I see is people are getting it, especially the younger generation, but also a lot of people that are a bit older too, that are just like, they're more conscious and they're saying, look, yeah, we made some mistakes. We want to do what we can to contribute to making this world a better place for everyone. And so that movement from a 3D and kind of 4D world into a 5D, which, when we get into dimensions, the 3D is everything we can see around us in our physical world. When you go into the fourth dimension, it's really how we move about in time. The illusion of linear time really completely drops out when you get to the fifth dimensional consciousness, which is you're really simultaneously in different times all at once. Although time is gone, you're beyond time. So it's called superposition in physics. But we're starting to connect into that that, wait a minute, everything is not really just happening in this moment. We're not just linearly moving from one point to the next in time. Like, there's a possibility to have massive instantaneous change right now. And I feel like that is happening. People are getting that, and people feel like, hey, wait, we can make a difference. We can actually make a shift right now that could very well change the course of the direction of where humanity's going. And I feel like it's a critical time and it's a necessary time for this kind of thinking and for people to take action based on that awareness. And we can't shift into that awareness if we're in fight or flight and we're just dealing with survival stuff that's right in front of us. So how do we. In the midst of a time when everything's going on that feels so intense and needs fight or flight reaction at times, how do we make sure that we don't stay in that so that we can access higher consciousness? You know? And so this is the. This is the sort of dilemma and the challenge that everyone is going through right now. So when someone used to come into my office, like over 20 years ago, and I'd start working with them, we were in a different place. I mean, in just over, you know, two and a half decades that I've been working with people, we used to do a linear progression. In most cases where it was like, okay, you're starting here. You have these things going on. This is what happened in the past. This is where we're going in the future. And I'd set out a whole timeline for them. We're going to do like two weeks, then three weeks ago. And I have a whole protocol now. I might interact with someone in this exact moment. We're going to just address past, present, and future all at once. And a huge transformation that is like completely life and course changing thing could happen instantaneously right now. That would not even have happened in six months or a year of working with them in the past, because it's possible now. The field has primed. The whole energy and consciousness field of the planet and of the universe is that we're in a different place and it's accessible now. So. So what's possible now is pretty incredible.

Like instantaneous change and so many timelines that we're on. Like, even just the situation of coronavirus has so many timelines of how things can go down right, according to collective consciousness, but then also each individual being on their own unique experience, you know, like, for some people, they're thriving and some people are having like the worst time ever. And it's the exact same situation, but different, different, you know, paradigms that we're all living with. And one question that I would love hear your perspective on is, you know, I've done a lot of reading that says that your physical body is the manifestation of your soul. So you look like and embody your soul. Do you believe in that?

You know, I believe that, you know, that, that the soul can manifest in many different times in different ways or different, you know, different could be a totally different look, totally different, you know, person. You know that the soul isn't timeless. But in most of the spiritual traditions and especially when you look into the Buddhist and the Hindu and most of the Eastern traditions, the soul was considered part of the, if you look at the, like we were talking about earlier, the koshas, the different sort of shells or sheaths that, you know, those sheaths, it was considered that the koshers were sheath that would kind of dim the light of the pure essence. And each one was a little denser and a little less, less connected to the. The pure essence of pure consciousness. But the lower bodies or the like, the physical and the emotional and the mental bodies, like, are considered to like, fall away. And then the soul and the connection to the infinite is like, stays and then reincarnates. If that is the, you know, know that is one belief for many religions and many different perspectives around the world is that there's like the soul comes back in different ways until there's the, like a total realization, then you don't have to keep coming back anymore. Right? So hopefully the next lifetime coming back and like the samskara and the, like the, you know, the wheel of, you know, karma and the suffering and everything that people experience over and over. So it's like you can liberate yourself or free yourself from that, from that sort of torturous wheel of like, suffering. So in my experience, like the soul is that pure, that pure essence, that pure knowing part of you, that. And when we recognize it in others, we know we're like, I know I've encountered you some, somewhere, somehow in another, in another place, time. I don't know, but I look into your eyes and I see that I know you somehow. And it goes beyond any kind of understanding. And usually it's very disruptive when you have those connections with someone in your life, like to the life you were living, because, especially if it becomes an intimate relationship because you're like I'm going along, I'm doing my thing and then, oh, this like, this is very inconvenient, that suddenly we have this like connection that makes no sense, but somehow it's a soul connection. And there are certain souls that touch us and move us in different ways. And whether we encountered those, those souls in other lifetimes and we're meeting them again or however that works, there's some part of us that knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that is not something we have to figure out and not something we could ever figure out, but that is that essence that we just know that we know. I feel like that is the part of us that is timeless and that is infinite and will always be a resource and be accessible to us. And in a way we're peeling away all the illusions of this time and space of this three dimensional world and we're remembering more and more that we are that, that we've always been that like you asked at the beginning, like, you know, what helps me, me be my higher self and nothing here in this physical world could actually help me be what I already am. It's like what helps me strip away the illusion that keeps me from remembering and knowing even more of who I am and what I am. And that is, I feel like that's the spiritual journey, that's the path that we're all on in some way, shape or form, whether we know it or not.

Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for sharing all of your wisdom with us. Where can listeners connect with you, you further and participate in your seven day challenge.

It's been a real pleasure actually. I love your line of questioning. I mean it's just, it's been really rewarding to have this conversation with you. So you can find me@johnamorel.com you can find me on Instagram @doctor Johnamiral and you can both my Instagram, there's a link tree on there and also on johnamorel.com, there's a very prominent like seven day challenge free sign up. So you can, you can sign up for that, you can have access, immediate access to the whole challenge so you can go through it at your own pace and you can learn a lot about what I, you know, kind of have to teach in that free course. And then I have some more online courses there. And then later this, this, this year as we, as we go into, further into 2020 and 21, I'll be offering more so people can stay tuned because I'll be going into a whole architecture in a way a whole ecosystem of how you utilize what I call the energy blueprint and how you work with each of these different energy bodies and all the different practices that you can do and choose from and you can try on different things. You'll be able to take a quiz and find out what your typology is in a way and then see which things are best for you, which things are more challenging for you, and then how you can focus and navigate it. So I'm looking forward. We've been working pretty hard on that, so we'll to have have we'll have more on that coming up.

That sounds so fascinating. We love a quiz here. Super excited.

It's all interesting. But I want to know about me, where do I fit? So I'll have a great quiz that will really make you actually have to dig deep and think about is this what's true for me here?

Amazing. Well, thank you so much again and we look forward to diving into all of that.

Sara, thank you so much. Much.

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