337: Greatest Lessons of 2020 with Cassandra Bodzak

Namaste, it's Sahara Rose. And welcome back to the Highest Self podcast, a place where we discuss what makes you your soul's highest evolvement. I love doing episodes with my best girlfriends. Just talk about all of the things. I've done a couple of these on the podcast, and you guys have just given such a tremendous response to feeling like you get to be a fly on the wall on two girls. Real conversation of, you know, going through 2020. I did one with my friend Rosie Acosta earlier this year about the social dilemma and censorship and all of the conversations around that. I did one with Cassandra as well last year about lessons from my wedding and what we often experience in weddings and the ups and the downs, et cetera. And today you will be part of our conversation all about the greatest lessons of 2020. So this year has definitely been a tremendous one, one of a great deal of lessons and opportunities and insights, and that's what we jam out about on this conversation. So it's not an interview as much as it really is a dialogue of both of us. We both are authors, spiritual teachers, and, you know, two girls just going through the many, many, many ups and downs of this year. And throughout the course of this year, we were just always like, voice on each other back and forth and having these discussions. And we wanted to hop on air to be able to talk about what we've really gained from all the experiences of 2020 so far. And that is this episode. So if you don't know Cassandra Bodzak yet, she's one of my besties and she's amazing. Amazing. Her archetype is like very Kapha Nurturer. She's a healer and she's here to help you divinely design your life. She is an author of Eat with Intention and such a beautiful soul. So without further ado, let's welcome Cassandra Bodzak to the Highest Self podcast. And before we get started, I'd love to share with you this special offer. Are you ready to discover your dharma, your soul's purpose, the big reason why you are here? Well, if so, then I invite you to pre order my new book, discover your Dharma, A Vedic guide to discovering your purpose. This book has my true story for the very first time, of how I began and created this lifestyle where I am being able to be me full time, and the many obstacles and roadblocks I overcame with my family members with limiting beliefs, doubts, fears, and how I overcame them to really be able to share my gifts with this planet. Unapologetically, this book has everything you need to know for discovering and also embodying your Dharma, how to take action on it, how to find yourself in the nine Dharma archetypes and then create a Dharma blueprint for yourself to put your Dharma into action. I share about everything from what to do if you're confused, if you have a lot of different things you like to do, to what if you aren't sure, how to take action, and everything in between. I also have incredible bonuses including meditations, courses and gifts available for you when you pre order the book and submit your receipt@iamsaharrose.com Dharma so if you're interested in diving into the book and learning more, check it out. The link is in the bio and I also have my Dharma Archetype quiz that is now available that will help you understand which of the nine Dharma archetypes you are so you can get started in understanding yours. I email you tons of great information from the book so you can begin on your Dharma journey as soon as possible. So head over to iamsaharrose.com dharma the link is in the show notes and I'm so excited to share this book with you.

So welcome, welcome everyone. I am here with my bestie, Sahara Rose. I'm Cassandra Bozak. For those of you who are not listening to this on Divine Downloads, I am Sahara Rose.

I'm the host of the Highest Self podcast and we are so excited to dive into today's not an episode, not an interview, but really just like a conversation between two girls who are trying to really understand what's happening in 2020 on a spiritual level, who are on our own, you know, spirit growth journeys, who are spiritual teachers and knowing how many people this year need the support and need someone that they can talk to about all of the different avenues that are happening simultaneously. So this episode is really a conversation that you are our third. You're our third bestie. Welcome to the crew and on the spiritual lessons of 2020.

Absolutely. Yeah. We did a podcast actually on Divine Downloads earlier at the start of 2020 as we were going into it kind of chatting just about the same things that me and Sara voice know each over back and forth during the day and I had such a tremendous reaction towards it. So many people emailed me and DM me and said how much they love just listening in on the two of us talking about it and feeling like they were a part of that conversation and kind of getting to be like a little fly on the wall for our conversation. And as you know, the year is coming to a close. And I think a big thing that so many of us, especially in the conscious spiritual community, will be doing more than ever this year will be reflecting on the lessons that we learned and how much growth and how much evolution and all the things that changed in 2020. So me and Sahara thought it'd be fun to just hit recording and do a podcast double feature to talk about for, you know, personally, for us. What are the big lessons we're walking away from 2020 with? So you want to hit it off first, Sahara, what's one of the lessons that you feel like you learned this year?

Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest lesson, and this is just the most obvious one, but it's one that really can't be repeated enough, is you can plan a pretty picnic, but you can't predict the weather, you know, like, bringing it back to outkast. Truer words have not been spoken. Like, I remember start, like, before this year, I was speaking at this Mind Body Green event in New York, like, in October, and I was like, 2020 is going to be the year of 2020 vision. Everyone was like, yeah. And, like, everyone was, like, so excited about this year. I had never seen such excitement for a year in the history of my life. And we've lived through Y2K. It was like, 2020. Everyone was like, shit's going to pop off. And it's kind of funny to look back at it because it's like, oh, you humans, like, sometimes I look back at even a picture of me, like, a year ago, I'm like, you don't know it's about to go down. And not that this year, by the way, I'll talk about this has been the best year of my life. Despite everything happening, it has still been the best year of my life. And it has been totally, totally different than any type of year that any one of us could have planned for. So I think the biggest lesson overall for the collective is you can try to plan, you can try to control, you can try to put your Q1 to Q4 goals down, and life is going to happen. And really, your power, your control, comes into how you respond to what's happening to the world around you. That is the only thing you can really control.

Absolutely. That's like the quote, we make plans and God laughs. I think that was one of the ones I wrote down as my biggest lessons, too, was like, I think uncertainty has always existed. It's always been part of life in the existence. But this year, we really tasted it really palpably And. And it became really real for us. And the kind of funny thing, Lisa, I choose to laugh about it is that it's always been like this in a way, right? Like, life has always been unpredictable. We've never, you know, there's that Alanis Morissette song that she talks about. Like, you know that Tuesday phone call that brings you to your needs? Right. Like, we've all kind of had those moments where an email or a phone call changes our life for good or for bad, Right. We've all had those moments where something unpredictable happens and we have to rise above. And 2020 was just kind of like a year that you were not going to get through without learning that lesson. You just had to really sit in, who am I in the face of uncertainty? And I think that's what we learned. We learned, how do we react in the face of uncertainty? And how comfortable are we with mo forward in the face of uncertainty? You know, like, thinking, like you were saying, like, it was the best year of your life, but in a way, you couldn't have predicted it, right? It was because of how you kind of rolled with the punches and how you innovated. And I think that was. That was like, this was a year that I think early on I saw, and I don't even remember if we touched on this in our first episode, but that you either were going to pull back and stay small and be scared and kind of make your world smaller by it and make it safer, or you were going to say, you know what, There is so much uncertainty. So, like, effort, let's go. Right? And, like, how can I show up now with what I know now? And so, yeah, I think that's a big thing. And I think it's made us all collectively. No matter where in 2020 you learn that lesson, I'm sure you learned it somewhere. And now moving into 2021, I think it's making all of us stronger and more. All of us more equipped for whatever.

Life throws our way, 100%. I do remember us talking about how at the beginning, when quarantine first started, there was the message of use this as your chance to write your dream book, to get your business off the ground, to do all the things. And then there were the people. Like, stop trying to pressure people to perform and achieve during this time. Take this time to nap, rest, cry, feel all of your emotions. And, like, it was interesting because both sides were quite loud. You know, you would have one person, like, write your screenplay and the other person, like, stop telling us to do that, and I think that no one expected it to go as long as it has. The fact that it. We're still in a quarantine, you know, almost a year later, no one could have predicted that. So it showed us who we really are. It showed us how we cope with trauma and how we cope with distress. Are you that person that hunkers down and just tries to, like, ride it out, or are you that person that actually gets activated by, you know, a little bit of risk and that gets you really going? So it really shows us who we are and it shows us our resilience. Because, you know, when I think of, like, that Tuesday morning phone call, I don't want that fucking Tuesday phone call. Like, you know, my initial fear is, like, alanis, don't come my way with that phone call. There's a lot of fear. However, I've survived all of that. You know, we've survived this. If someone were to tell us, like, back in March, when all of this was started, like, by the way, you guys are going to still be in quarantine, like, in Christmas, like, we would have maybe lost it. We would have gone crazy. I mean, I remember even in June thinking, imagine if we had known it was going to last three months. Like, I definitely didn't think it was going to go even through the summer. So even though if we had known, it would have felt so overwhelming, like, we wouldn't be able to handle it. We have. We have become so resilient. Like, we don't think twice about, like, wearing a mask or getting a test or whatever it is. It's just, like, a normal part of life. So there's the beauty in that of, like, we humans can survive anything. That's how we've made it so far. And there is a tinge of fear of that, of, like, look how easily we can be conditioned to take anything and just accept it as normal. And one thing that I think this year has also shown us is the multidimensionality of all things, how one thing, such as wearing a mask, can be so controversial. One thing, such as a test or a vaccine or whatever it is, can have so many different sides to it. So it has shown us our differences as a country, as a world, and also our similarities of how we all really want what's best for the whole. And the information that we've received based off of our algorithms, our newsfeed, our news channels, are going to inform us of different ways of doing so.

Oh, yes, two things I have to add to that. The first Thing is, around, like, we had no idea how long this was going to go. And I think going back to those in the beginning of quarantine, where literally everybody and their brother was trying to give you your prescription for what you should be doing during quarantine and whatever it was, like, clean your house or take a nap or whatever it was. And really realizing this year, and then even with all the other subjects you said, too, which I'll get into a little bit as well, how important it is to have our own sovereignty of mind more than ever, and how important it is to really be connected to your own intuition and your own individual path. Because I remember it was funny because some people are on the side of really wanting to rest and then feeling, like, bad because people were telling them to write their book or whatever, right? I was kind of on the other side, right? I was feeling really enthused, inspired, energized. You know, I actually made like. Like, I hit, like, great numbers, you know, in this year in quarantine, Right. I felt so like my work is needed more than ever. Like, people are taking, like, the more digital spiritual stuff more than ever now, right? And so to me, when I was getting all those rest messages, I'm at the place with my spiritual practice in a way where I was like, okay, that doesn't feel right for me, right? Like, when I want to rest, I'll rest. But I think it's really important when you're in those spaces to be like, okay, all these people are sharing what's coming up for them. The people that need to rest are probably sharing the rest message. The people that are excited and inspired might be sharing that message. And that's great. And I don't think there's anything wrong with anyone sharing whatever. It's that we need to have that filter to say, okay, great, Sahara is saying rest, and Cass is saying, write a book, or whatever. I know we're both pretty much write a book people.

I definitely didn't arrest the score, dude.

No. But, you know, there's nothing inherently wrong with that message, right? It's just kind of knowing, does that work for me? And does that make sense for me? And the same thing goes with all this other stuff. We've seen such multidimensionality of opinions and conspiracy theories and masks and vaccines and political stuff. And one of the things I wrote down is that. But acceptance around people that we love and their opinions has been a huge lesson for me this quarantine this year because I have had really close friends and loved Ones that believe things I don't believe. Right. And the question has been, or the lesson has been, can I love and can I accept them where they're at? And still. And I think again, it goes back to the same thing. It's like, I've gotten to this point now where that's a yes. And it was harder at certain points because I was like, okay. And I think it's taken a lot of different skills around boundaries and stuff, but also being able to fully witness someone in their beliefs and what's true for them and what they feel really passionate or committed to or their logic or their newsfeed is telling them and being able to be really, in my own energetic sovereignty and be like, okay, right now, in this moment, that doesn't ring true for me. I don't know if maybe in a year from now something else will happen and maybe it will. Who knows? I don't know if in a year from now that person, something else might happen and they might think what I think now. Right. I think we've also been through the rollercoaster of exploring different things that we were believing in. Right. Which has been, you know, a normal, natural part of the journey. So I think 2020, hopefully for a lot of people, but I know for myself has been around. How can I hold those loved ones that had different beliefs than me and navigate those relationships with all of the polarization and the multidimensionality that's going on this year?

Yeah, I mean, I think this year will go down in history as the year of cancel culture.

Oh my gosh.

Really saw the great rise of that, of what collective groupthink can do and modern day witch hunt.

I never felt so much modern day witch hunt vibes than this year, like, so terrifying past life.

You know, we both coach women all the time to speak their truth and to like, show up in their power and their gift and share their magic with the world. And. And this was definitely the scariest year to do so because of how quick people were to take one thing they don't like about you, which could actually be something you did wrong or could just be a difference of opinion and create essentially this like, group think movement to slander you and to tear you down. And in the witnessing of who this really happened to, was it happening to, like, legitimate, like Ku Klux Klan members and like the like, horrible, like, you know, Republican people who are trying to make abortion illegal for all? No, it was not happening to them. It was happening to normal women by other women. And I think that for me was like a huge, like my nervous system was definitely the most out of whack in June because, you know, the George Floyd murder, which was I think honestly the most traumatic event of this year. But then what followed that, which was this like, almost like very, very quick tear down. And we talked about this, I think on another episode that we did together. And I think everyone was in the situation that they haven't been in before of like this really tragic death happened. And no one knew how to respond. So some of us, again, like coronavirus, are quick to respond. I'm someone who's quick to respond. I'm like, you know, I'm a very politically active person. However, not everyone is like that. Not everyone is even trained in that or knows about that or feels comfortable to immediately speak about something right after it happened. However, the way that people reacted to that silence is violence. You must be a racist. And I saw the tear down of so many women who, you know, most likely were afraid and didn't speak up because they didn't know what to say. And people trying to take down their entire careers. And that was really sad to see as a woman.

Yeah, I think that this was a scary AF year to be a female leader or to be someone that was in the public eye at all. And I think it also probably made a lot of people that perhaps were thinking about stepping up into the public eye or stepping up to be a leader or coach or something like that, second guess it a little bit more or really own the full breadth of what comes with that. Because a lot of times it's so easy to see the positive things and you don't see sometimes the DMs or the comments that we have to deal with and how. I remember I made a post this year about Breonna Taylor, which I thought like, what, you know, could be wrong about this. And I still felt really firmly about what I wrote in the post. And I had people reach out to me that were pretty much, let's just say, did not agree that it was a tragedy. Right. And like I, like, I was like crying and I was just like, just like my head wanted to explode. Right. Just around like, wow, there are people that really feel this way. And also, you know, people that are violently attacking who I am because I shared how I felt about it. Right. And so, yeah, I think it's definitely a year where it made you really like sit in like, who am I as a leader? And I think it was really, you know, it's interesting cause I was Talking to one of my best friends. Casey is like such a human design dork. Nerd, whatever. She like loves it. And she was actually telling me in Human Design that in your profile there are different people that are meant to kind of address worldly issues and certain people that are not right. And when she was telling me this, I was like, this is so fascinating because I believe that on a core level, right? Like there are certain people that are naturally drawn to being more political, to kind of having their voice and kind of these things. And there are other people, let's say, whatever. Sally, who like makes a mean cupcake and is awesome at decorating cupcakes, that maybe doesn't want to get involved in talking about political stuff and what's going on in the news. And this year it almost made that wrong. Like if you had a Facebook or an Instagram or anything, didn't matter if it was for your wood carving business, like, you were like demanded upon to have an opinion on things, which I think led to a lot of opinions and sometimes opinions from people that felt kind of forced in a way to give an opinion, you know?

Totally. And I think this was the year of learning sovereignty. Because on the Internet there are millions upon millions of perspectives. So when you're trying to be told what to do, do, you're going to act one way and then someone else is not going to like it. Then you're going to act another way and then someone else is going to like it and then you what the feedback was, everyone was like, I feel like I keep getting it wrong. I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. I'm posting the black square. Oh, now I ruined this day because I posted the black square. And now it's this. And now silence is violence. Well, now it's performative activism and now I'm sharing, but I should be giving black people a voice. Well, now I'm not sharing enough and it should be coming from me. And like people's minds were spinning and going crazy and what was happening was then they felt like, screw it, I'm not going to do this because everything I do I'm being criticized for or hated on. But also people really feeling strongly to stand up for this very important cause in this moment in history. So I think, and we still don't have a clear answer on what activism through social media can really look like. I feel like honestly what happened were a lot of people just got burnt out and confused and kind of just stepped away. Whereas there is such great power, like in what we were creating in June of like sharing the different protests and sharing what was really happening behind the scenes and giving a voice and videos to police brutality in a way that has never been shown before. And I think the sensitivity around it, you know, got to us. We shouldn't be as sensitive as we are. And on the other side of that, realizing that everyone's a human. So it comes back to this multidimensionality of this year that, you know, in Gene Keys as well, we just entered a seven year period of collective chaos. So we entered this period in 2020. It's still 2027. The first half is going to be more of the destruction of judicial systems, medical systems, everything that is not serving us. And then the second half is going to be on the creation of what we do want to build. So by 2027, we're fully immersed into the new paradigm. Now within that collective shift, we are different volunteers. So like, we are definitely here to build the new. We're here to like, while everyone's tearing down the old, we are hunkering down. And like, here are the new ways you can relate to yourself. Here are the new forms of education, wellness, et cetera. And I think that a lot more people are gonna realize that they are also on that creation team. But because they're not really seeing people creating, they're more seeing like, shit, I should be destroying, I should be criticizing. And that's needed. But it's not everyone's role. So I think we're going to learn from this more and more. The way that activism and change can really come about is by all of us really being in our unique archetypes.

Yeah, for sure. Being in. And you know, that's. It's so true. They actually, yeah, they call it the great change in Gene Keys. And it's a collective shift from victimhood into empowerment that's happening in these seven years. Right. So we're like releasing that like victim consciousness and that disempowered energy that circulating on the planet.

Well, even that word victim too. That's a word to talk about now in 2020. This has become a very triggering word.

Yep, exactly. Right. And it kind of has to. Right, it kind of has to. So that we can heal our wounds around that word. Right. And I think there is something that each and every one of us, you know, can look at and see maybe where we were a victim or we would say we were a victim in our lives. Right. A lot of us have different traumas that we've withstood and different things than our own stories and seeing how we can use that. It's funny, I just finished reading Man's Search for Meeting for the Second Time, which is Viktor Frankl. It's his book. He's a therapist that was in the Holocaust in the concentration camps. Jew that was in the camps, but they put him into service as a doctor. But anyway, he talks about the use of purpose and meaning through suffering, right? And it was, you know, it made me think a lot about 2020, right? Is how it doesn't mean that we have to deny or diminish or, you know, sweep under the rug the suffering that we've incurred, right? But it's like if we can derive purpose and meaning and let that empower us, then now we've alchemized, right? We've shifted out of victimhood, but we haven't negated our experience, right? Our experience is our experience, but we can now transmute that into purpose and meaning for what we're to create moving forward. So I do think that there's a lot of people that that's there. First of all, it's all of our soul's mission in different ways, right? There's a lot of people that have specific suffering around things we're seeing publicly that are absolutely meant to use that as fuel to create something new and beautiful in the world and be the guiding light for the change. And I think especially the people that are listening to our podcast, and I know this has been a theme with literally all of my clients this year. They've been like, literally word for word. It happens at some point during our journey where they'll be like, but no one's ever done this before. And I'm like, that's exactly it. We're this generation of collective, right, this conscious, collective people that are listening to this podcast that follow us, right? That are the bringers of the new right, that are meant to be doing things and innovating and doing things in a way that they've never done it before. And I think in a lot of ways, some of that cancel culture or that criticism or kind of the fire that we have had to walk through this year is an initiation of sorts, right? It's an initiation for us to really stand in our mission and our purpose and our courage to say, hey, you know, you can't burn me again, right? Like, I'm going to keep prevailing, and this matters so much to me. And to have kind of the, you know, the boldness and the courage that it takes to say, hey, no, One's ever done it this way before, right? But I'm gonna do it this way, right? I'm gonna be the one that, you know, even like your latest book, discover your dharma, right? I'm gonna take this ancient concept and I'm gonna put like my authentic Sahara spin on it, right? And boldly share it in that way. And so many of my clients that are like kind of entering in, I have a lot of clients right now, they're kind of entering in, in more historically male dominated fields, right? And they're all young women, right? And saying, well, I don't have any role models that aren't men that are doing it in a way that I don't resonate with, right? And realizing that it's time to be our own role models. And I think that's part of this great change is saying we're not going to look up to patriarchal role models anymore. And whether they're male or female, right. The ways of an older establishment or the Piscean. As we're also moving into the Aquarian age officially this year. And we have to be the new role models. You have to be our. I always say, like, your role model.

Is you 2.0, 100%. I think that this is definitely the year that we realized that this is why we were born. You know, like, if you didn't, if you were a little bit confused about your purpose, you weren't sure if you were really needed, just like, look out your window and you will see that whatever gifts that you have, whether it is music or speaking or cooking or setting up a beautiful home in, is so needed right now. And I think that it has been a huge initiation and call to action for a lot of people. Like, don't waste time anymore. Get out of your story, get out of your own way. Get your message out into the world. And a shaking up because I think so many people were playing small, so many people were stuck in the monotony, stuck in doing things exactly how they have been done. That honestly, the only way that we could have made the changes that we made this year is if it wasn't for something so big. And in a way, I actually think that it's going to go on for as however long it needs to go on for until all of the changes are made. So the longer people take to realize that they are the creatrix of their own reality and that we're, you know, basically the wizards here to create heaven on Earth, the longer it takes for us to create this. It's the quarantines can go on forever. But guess what? When you're already living in that 5D consciousness which is living from the heart, living from the soul, living from your dharma, your divine self, whatever it is that you want to call it, like we've been sharing, this has still actually been the best year ever. And some people might say, oh, that is privilege to say that it's the best year ever. You know, my whole family had coronavirus. Like, I come from a family of refugees, political prisoners, immigrants, child marriage. Like, like all of the things, you know, I could definitely create a sob story for myself. And I, you know, my husband lost his job. Like, it definitely hasn't been easy. And I have chosen to take everything that has come from this year and use it to my best advantage of, hey, my husband lost his job. So we get to move now. Where do we want to move to? What a great start, you know, or, you know, my grandmother. My grandmother died. No one could go to her funeral because of COVID How can I commemorate her in a different way? How can I bring her more into my life and use her message more like, like all, like, you know, thinking that my father might get Covid and die because my mother had it. Had it really bad and, you know, to day doesn't have her smell back, you know, and how can I further heal my lineage and now do healing work that maybe I wouldn't have even done in this lifetime if it wasn't for those situations? So when I say best year ever, I don't mean everything has been easy peasy, that I haven't done a lot of crying this year and stressing and figuring it out. It means every single obstacle thrown my way I have alchemized. And that's what magic really is. That's what, you know, when we talk about creating things in your cauldron, Your cauldron is not meant to be empty. It's not meant to just only have beautiful daffodils in it. It's meant to have all sorts of medicine and potion and ancestors and past lives and trauma and whatever it is that you have in your cauldron. And how do I churn that and churn that and churn that and add a little bit of what I want to add to it, which is my own passion and zest and way of being, and create that into the life that I want to live. And I see year as the year that people made decisions that would have taken them years or decades to make it happen so rapidly. Just in this year. So it's such a great lesson that if you want to make a shift in your year, whether it's leaving your job or starting a new relationship or moving across the country or whatever it is that you want to do, it doesn't have to stay on your checklist forever. It's just literally in your own mind and you get to do it it right now. And some of us learn through breakdown. Some of us learn through obstacles. Some of us need to keep feeling pain, pain, pain in order to grow and shift and change. However, when you realize that, you can actually change that narrative for yourself and you don't have to get to the rock bottom to learn anymore, which I think people are now awakening to, they're able to be like, things feel a little bit off. And I'm going to make that change anyways. I'm not going to wait until it becomes this huge, tumultuous situation in life. I'm going to be more adaptable to things. And now, you know, being in a second lockdown, I feel like no one's even stressing it anymore. Which shows how quick we still are, because the first one, we were all having mental breakdowns that it's like, imagine if everything in life, you could be so adaptable. Flip it into you on the other side, living your best life imaginable.

Absolutely. And it's interesting. I want you to talk a little bit more about that because I know one of the big things that happened this year was you moving to Miami. And I know just for being your friend, that this is, is not like out of the blue. Like, this has been something that's been like kind of in your sphere of moving for a minute. But, you know, combined with Stephen losing his job and that shifting because of how his career was so like in person centric, how did you navigate? I'm curious for everyone else as well, your, you know, kind of movement from okay, Stephen's job is struggling to the possibility of okay, look at. Let's look at the bright side of this rainbow and we can move. How was that transition? Were there things that you had to do to kind of alchemize that gold?

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And my heart really does go out for everyone working in there because it is such a passion that people have for music. And it is such a travesty too that music festivals and concerts are at this point not a part of our lives. And we looked at, okay, well now your office is closed. Well, now you can't pay the rent for your office anymore, so you probably shouldn't have it anymore. Well, now you have to lay off everyone here. Like these are hard decisions and these are, you know, not happy, happy conversations to have either. So I don't want people to think it's just like some people have it figured out and not however, this is how we alchemized it. So we were able to see. So you don't have an office anymore, you don't have a team anymore. You're back to working at home. You're not even sure if you're, if your work is going to make money anymore. So we don't need to really be in LA for anything. Considering I've been working online and you now don't have any reason to be here, we're not sure what's going to happen with your job. We've always been interested in not just Miami. There were Bali. We were considering Hawaii. We were considering different places, but those other places weren't even a possibility at that time either. Hawaii and Bali were not accessible because of the lockdown. So Miami was kind of the only option that even could happen. But I had so many fears of leaving my community, like leaving my friends. You know, I'm someone who community really matters to me. I was always having like rituals at my house and having people over that. I was also really afraid of making the wrong decision too. So it was a grapple, like months and months of like, should we do it? Should we not? Should we do it? Should we not? But I know that every time I've put myself in a new situation, whether it's moving to a new place or trying something new, I've always learned and I've always grown. So we visited and I loved it and I had hesitations too. But I figured, you know what? This next year is going to go by anyways. And I don't even know I know how exactly it's going to play out with me staying in this apartment. It's going to be me continuing to take my lap around this little lawn area, like hanging out at the same place, eating my same food, doing the exact same thing. Or there could be a new adventure waiting for me on the other side. And I don't know what that could look like, but I know I'm going to learn more about myself and I'm going to grow. And this is actually the perfect time to do it because we have no reason to be here. So we decided to go for it. And I'm so, so, so grateful that we did, like, energetically. Well, first of all, I'm in Atlantis now, so it feels very Atlantean of expansion and growth and innovation. Like, it definitely doesn't feel like retire in Florida vibes, which I thought it would be. But I share this because so many people have lost their jobs right now and work is maybe permanently going to shift online for a lot of people. So take this as a blessing. Take this as if I could live in any environment in the world. Where would I want to live? What elements really support me? For me, it's the water. I love having the water. I love the humid air, because I'm very vata, so I tend to get dry and cold easily. So the warm humidity that feels really nourishing for my body to be able to just go downstairs and like walk on the beach and see the turquoise blue waters and be able to swim in there. That's what my soul really needs. And I think that this quarantine really taught us too, to live in a place that you don't feel like you need a vacation from. Because before we could, you know, you could live anywhere and be traveling on a plane every month if you wanted to. However, now it's sort of like where you are, you're really there. So do you love the mountains? This is your opportunity to move there. Have you always wanted to live in Canada? Like, why not now? Do you love Tulum? So many people are creating community there, and I'm actually seeing so much more movement and migration happening. And I think that it's really important because especially as spiritual people, we're setting the grid. We're actually going to places that there isn't typically a spiritual community, and we're bringing that over to the small towns or the cities that tend to not be super spiritual, et cetera. And not only is this helping on a physical level of there's going to be more yoga classes there and vegan restaurants and all of that, but on an energetic level, level as well, if we have all the spiritual people like in LA and maybe some in New York and like, that's it. Well, first of all, we're not going to be spreading the knowledge to the people that we want to spread it to. You know, we're just going to be passing it around in the circle. But energetically, if you think about it as like, you know, those like, over the top cameras they take of like the world at night that have like the lights and you can see in the big city, there's so many lights there that you see in like Wyoming. You're like, where's, where's the lights? We figuratively are those lights. So now because of COVID and what has happened, we're spreading, you know, spread the light in your work. We literally are spreading the light to all of the places that have maybe never seen the light of day and able to set that field and set that vibration which begins with the types of foods we buy, the choices we make, but then also even the frequency of the place. And I see kind of the end of cities. Like before, you kind of had to like, move to the city to make it because you had to go in person to meetings and events and, you know, be around New York to make it or whatever it was. And now, because everything's online, including events, et cetera, you don't. You can quote, unquote, make it in the forest or in the jungle or whatever it is you want to be. And I think that there's going to be such beauty in the. I don't feel so alone anymore because there's going to be people just like you all over.

I love that when this started and so many of my close girlfriends, including you, all moved to different places, and I had this moment where I was like, oh, my God, like, everyone's gone. And I saw in my meditation later that day literally exactly what you said. I saw, like, these little lights, like, going to their corners and, like, kind of spreading out to all these different places and how all of us. It's true. And I had felt this way about the spiritual community for a while, that it was kind of like, redundant in a way. Like when you were like. And of course we're like, in all those groups, right? So I love all those groups, but it was the same thing. It was like, you go to New York, you know your people, you go to la, you know your people, and we're like our own little, like, posse. And it's true. It's like we need to be spread out. We need to engage in communities that don't have as many people, quote, unquote, like us, right? And just our energetic vibration is going to shift that place and also just who we are, right? Like, I teach a course in miracles, and A course in miracles says that to be a teacher is to demonstrate, right? So we're all teachers, regardless of what your quote, unquote profession is in a course in miracles terms. And so all of us are teachers of light. And we teach not by our Instagram posts or not by even our podcast. We teach by who we are, you know, who we show up as, whether we're picking up a tea at, like, the local cafe or we're going shopping or we're just walking our dog, right? Like, our energy signature is making an imprint on that environment. And I definitely think, you know, for me, it's been less dramatic. But as far as the perspective on our living situation has shifted tremendously this year as well, because we were about to buy a house actually before all this happened. And all the banks kind of pulled out of jumbo mortgages when this started because of the mortgage forbearance, and they didn't want to give out large sums of money when they were not getting paid by large sums of people. And so our plans kind of ricocheted. And of course, me being me told my fiance, like, this is obviously divine. Like, there's a reason we're not allowed to buy a house now. And it's going to be okay because we need to get through whatever this is because we're going to be different on the other side of it, and our priorities might be different and the market might be different, and we don't know. But I felt really strongly that it was heavily divinely held. And I'm so glad because regardless of what the market for houses or whatever ends up looking like when we buy, we fundamentally shifted what we want so much because we went from being like, we want to live close to. We're in Orange county, so we wanted to live close to, like, the city center. There's, like, Newport and Corona del Mar, and they have these, like, super cute, like, you know, restaurants and cafes and shops. And I'm a big walker. Like, I like. I have a car, but I like to walk everywhere if I can. And I was like, I need to.

Be able to walk everywhere.

And we want the restaurants and I want the cute little smoothie place and be close to a yoga studio. And all the houses in an area like Orange county for that are astronomical and tiny with, like, no land. So you're. It's kind of like New York or la, right? It's like the closer you are to the cool stuff, the smaller your place is gonna, which I'm sure is everywhere. But, you know, this year has been so grounding in realizing how much we want space, we want land, we don't care so much, right? Like, what does it matter, you know, how close we are to restaurants and stuff? Like, if we want to go to them, and that's a thing still in the future, we will drive to them, right? But we'd rather have, like, our home be a sanctuary. And I'm really glad we ended up finding a really beautiful place to live in this year because it has made all the difference. Because both of us, I think, were. We are like wanderlusters. Like, we love traveling, and that's something I've missed so much, but it's been really even sitting with that and saying, like, okay, what was I receiving from travel? What was I receiving from travel that I can give to myself here, Right? What was, you know, whether it was the relaxation or the peacefulness or, you know, like you said, an adventure, learning new things. Y', all, I've learned to, like, drive up to Tahoe or, you know, have an adventure just by, like, exploring, like, a hike by my house, you know, finding like, different ways to feed that part of me without needing to get on a plane all the time or needing to be some. And in a lot of ways, one of the things that shifted for me a lot was I traveled so much, I didn't even realize how much I traveled until you pretty much couldn't travel. I was traveling, like, once a month, at least for the past five years. And so I have never felt so grounded with all this happening. And really, when you're grounded, it's like I've gotten a chance to really get into a routine and, like, a steadiness and like, in a way that I. I mean, I'm like a ritual person, so I always have rituals. But there's been a groundedness to being like, oh, like, when you go on a trip, you're always like, there's a lead up and, like, the lead back and, you know, there's like, the shifting. And it's been, like, really steady this year, which I think has also been a real gift to creation, right? To creation of, you know, new projects and ideas and that. But also into, like, deep self discovery and really getting that time to, like, sit with myself and being like, how do I want my office to be? How do I want my home to feel? What do I want to shift? You know, what are the parts of me that I was able to run from when things were busier and how do I let, like, let me sit with them, let me heal them, let me show up for that work right now, because I'm not off, like, being distracted and doing all these exciting things.

Totally. I think that this is definitely the year to make your home your sanctuary and to create the life you don't need the vacation from. And so many more people this year, like, have been doing home redesigns and renovations and, like, you know, I've realized how much it's worth paying extra for, like, the beautiful furniture or wall decoration or something like that that I'm going to look at every single day versus the, like, traveling that you end up spending all of this money. And it's just like, you know, I obviously love to travel still, and I'm excited to do it again, but I realized how much money I would spend on this quick trip. And you don't think about it. You're like, oh, like, hotels just cost that much. You know, you got to eat the good food There you got to, you know, try, try the spa. Like, you could get the good taxi and just, like, all of this money that you would spend on, like, a week of your life. Now, I think of everything in furniture. What could that get in terms of, like, a carpet?

You know, that's a really nice sectional.

I don't know exactly. I am, like, $2,000. I could get a whole new sofa leather. So it really has. And honestly, I am really grateful for the age that I'm at in this quarantine, because if I was, like, 21 years old and, like, in college and like, fuck, I have to move back home with my parents and, like, I'm trying to, like, hit the club every night and I can't do this anymore. Like, I think this whole experience would have been much harder. But again, I think my soul chose. It knew this was going to happen, and it chose to actually be with my partner at this time in the work that I'm in. And, you know, so many of us have had these same conversations with yourself and Patrick and, like, you guys got engaged literally in December, right before this all happened. And, you know, imagine if this even happened two years ago. Like, you would have been single in this quarantine. Can you. I mean, I know a lot of.

People are, but it's.

It makes it so much more difficult when you're alone. And I think whatever it is is our souls chose to be in this experience, whether it is being single with a partner, with your parents, whatever situation that you're in. And it's just made me really grateful for where I'm at right now, because I have already felt, like, at a place that I'm, like, grounded, I kind of know what I'm doing, and I could just fully focus on that. Whereas in, you know, your college years, you're so still attached to the. The community and the extracurriculars and the social engagements that are even these high school kids right now. You know, like, how much of high school is, like, passing the note to the person at the desk next to you and, like, telling your friend that you like a boy and, like, that's gone for now. And that it's sad, but I just have to know that it's going to give them a unique experience of, you know, I was so excited to have a snow day. They got, like, a whole year of staying at. At home, too. So whatever age you're in, whatever situation you're in, this was exactly what you needed to experience this as.

It reminds me of that Hafiz Quote that says, this was the place God circled on a map for you. And I feel that. I feel that so strongly because I have thought about that. Literally thought about that, because we did get engaged, like, right before this all started. And I was only, you know, I was with my partner six months before we got engaged, so it was relatively fast. And it went from being, like, single to very committed. And it felt very. Also divinely guided, obviously. But looking back and thinking, like, I often. I did think about that a few times. I was like, what if I was, like, still in my Santa Monica apartment? Like. And you know what? I don't think it. I think at first when we entered quarantine, I was like, oh, wow, this would, like, it would stink to be single right now and be dating, right? But now with my friends and my clients that are single, I've been telling them, and I firmly do believe this, I think there's a really epic opportunity for meeting your person right now. Because if you're open, right? If you're open to being on dating apps, if you're open to meeting someone over social media or Instagram or something like that, because you could be FaceTiming with them, right? I've been telling all my clients, like, have FaceTime happy hours, right? This is a great way. Famously, women often wonder, like, how long should I wait before we get intimate? Or before we kiss or make out or have sex or all this stuff. Like, guess what? You're on Zoom. There's no risk. You can have as many glasses of wine as you need to. You're sleeping alone tonight, right? And that's actually really nice because you have to build, I think, just like, we actually were talking about this before the call. But, you know, certain things in life show you who your friends are, right? And I think this year definitely showed you who are the friends that are willing to have Zoom chats with you. You know, we do, like, long voice memos back and forth in between our Zoom chats. And that, I think, reassured me, like, when people started moving in different directions, I knew right away that people I would talk to you and it wouldn't matter at all. And the people that it might not, right? And I think this also would do that to romantic relationships, right? People that were really willing to get to know you and show up in that way, you could meet someone. You could weed out people and meet someone really, really serious in a beautiful way this year. Just like, I also believe that we were divinely meant to be in the situations we're at during this Year as well. And our souls chose that. And trust me, like, going into, like, moving in with someone and getting engaged and then quarantining with them, you know, it was such a great working thing for our relationship. I was actually joking with Patrick the other day because I was like, you know, I had this moment. We just visited my brother in Maine who just moved out to Maine because his job went remote and he no longer wanted to, like, live in Silicon Valley and have that life. And he loves it, living out in Portland, Maine, like, so nice and peaceful and relaxing. And we wanted to see him for Thanksgiving because I didn't want him to be alone. And that's like, that's a big deal for me. I don't know. I'm a very overprotective big sister. And I was so grateful to have a partner that was cool with that, right? That wanted to come with me and that understood how much that was a priority for me. And we both got our negative COVID test and wore a mask the whole time and, like, abided by all the guidance sidelines. But this is truly like a year of your, what do you call, Apocalypse buddies, right? When you think about that, we joke about that so much. Like, who are your. Like, it's like a Tom Cruise movie and you have your four people, like, who are you surviving this apocalypse with?

Especially at the beginning, I feel like everyone, like, when it first happened, everyone was like, let's zoom call, like. And like, everyone was like, reaching out to, like, zoom call each other. And because for some reason we're like, now we have all of this time to zoom, even though we're all, like, stressing over the news and totally did not have a lot of time on our hands, and everyone was going live on Instagram, like, all the time. It was literally be like 20 people live on my Instagram. I was going live every day doing my dance things. But then I feel like when it kind of hit in of like, this isn't really going anywhere. It's like, who are you actually staying in touch with? Because staying in touch is a commitment. You know, it's time, it's energy, it's checking in. It's having that person on your mind, what they're going through, what they're moving through, holding space for them. So all of these people that you may have had in your life, it kind of made you realize who are my. More like, I see these friends when I'm out and there we vibe when we're at the same dinner party, and that's what the relationship is like, and who are my people? When I'm having a breakdown that, that I have in my life and not a lot of people listening still don't have those friends. And the other opportunity, just like the opportunity is to find a great relationship. I met my own husband on Bumble and we were FaceTiming that first week and I'm super grateful for that. But also, there's so many people who are really looking for genuine friendships now because I think a lot of people have realized, like, I don't want these friends that I, you know, see at this event. And then we don't really keep in touch with anymore. People are really wanting deeply fulfilling relationships. So, you know, there are even apps to find friends. We both have communities. I think finding a community that you align with is honestly the best way to make friends. But to put in that effort and to realize that to have friends, you got to be a friend. And I think too, like, it made you see who is going to put in that time, who is going to put in that effort. Like, how does this friendship feel? Is it mutual? I think that really came to surface, especially when so much of communication has gone to audio, zoom, etc. So you can actually feel that a lot more of like, does this person actually care about me or are they just using me for advice all the time and never checking up on how I'm doing? So just like careers and all of these moves happened really quickly. I think friendships budded very quickly and dissolved very quickly as well.

Absolutely. And I think I love what you said. I think that's really important. I'm sure there's a lot of people listening to this that maybe lost some friends this year. Not like physically, hopefully, but like lost those relationships. And so if that's the case, I think it's like one realizing that sometimes that's divine, right? Sometimes that's divine. Sometimes people just fall apart because they're not meant to continue on with you to that next chapter. And then the other part of that is asking you, like, A Course in Miracles has this thing that I love about relationships. It says anything that you're feeling is missing in a relationship is what you're not feeling giving. And I think it keeps you really honest because then you get really clear on, like, am I checking in on them? Am I? You know, and this was. This continues to be a year. And even as we move on to different years, you know, sometimes I always tell my clients too. And this is a practice that I've developed over the years through Dealing with my own. You know, I started actually during. When I was dealing with my disordered eating. Like, one of the mechanisms I would have when I wanted to, like, go to, like, you know, negative body thoughts or, you know, overeat or undereat or over exercise or whatever it was, was like, reach out to a friend, but not reach out to a friend and, like, spill all my junk on them, but reach out to a friend and just say, hey, Zahara, how's your day going? Right? And just hear what's up for you, because the second I'm asking what's up for you, I'm like, out of me. Right? And so it was, like, actually extra. Of course, it's okay with your friends to, like, ask for advice and, you know, whatever or share what's going on when things happen. But I often think of that as a great tool when you want to just shift your space. And you also. It's like a double whammy win, because now you're showing up for your friend. And, gosh, I feel like 2020 is this year where we have all kind of collectively had this understanding, and I'm so guilty of this with. There's one friend in mind that I'm thinking of that I kind of saw. Like, she just got into a relationship. She's moving. She's got a lot of things going on her, and so I just kind of assume she's busy. Right? She doesn't need to deal with me and Zoom with me. She's got a lot on her plate right now. And obviously, luckily, our friendship is such where as soon as I reached out and we talked, everything was fine. But it's so easy to fall into that mindset of being like, oh, they're busy. Oh, they're dealing with their own stuff. Oh, I'm just dealing with my own stuff. Oh, we'll talk eventually. Don't. Because the second you reach out to someone, the second you. You kind of put that out and you guys connect, oftentimes, we're just so glad you did. Right? And even though it's so easy to be like, oh, I'm on Zoom all day, you know, I remember one of my miracle mastermind clients, she was telling me, because we have Zoom weekly with each other, she was like, I was on Zoom calls all day for work, you know, and there was a part of me that was almost like, do I want to stay on Zoom for this one more call? Which was our mastermind group. And she was like, no, because I did. Because this Zoom is the one all day. That's for me, right? This is the zoom that fills my cup up. And I think it's super easy to say that, especially for those people who work has gone remote and they're like, oh, my God, if I have to get on Zoom anymore, I just want to shut the computer and, like, run and hide after my day. But realize that, like, that Zoom that you have with your girlfriend and having, like a happy hour Zoom or like a T Zoom or dinner Zoom, you know where that's the one that's going to fill your coffee cup up. And let's be real.

Like, where are you going to go to the other TV screen, the phone screen, like, you were like, so Zoom fatigue. When are you Instagram fatigue yet? You know, it's like, what? Better that there's someone on the other side of the computer live wanting to talk to you and you can talk in real time. Like, the fact that we're across the country having this conversation, I can see you nod and blink, is such a fucking miracle that I think too, like, we get to realize how lucky we are. We get to realize how lucky we are we have the Internet during this time. Imagine if this happened in the 80s or the 90s. Like, you would have been at home having to check out your local newspaper every day, afraid if it has coronavirus on it and see what's the latest. According to this, one piece of newspaper with no contact except for your landline that one person your family could use. So I feel like we, like, as humans do this. It's like, I think this comedian was talking about, it was like the first flight ever that had WI fi on it, and the WI fi wasn't working. They're like, oh, the WI fi never works on this flight. And it's like, this is the first flight with WI fi on it. Instead of, what a miracle. I'm on an airplane flying in the sky to whatever destination I want. I don't have to, like, do anything. And there might be Internet on here. So I feel like this year has taught us so much about how we think. Are we that person that goes to the negative? Are we that person that tends to be more positive? And how do we want to share up in the world? Do we want to again, see it from the victim lens? See it from the. Oh, shit. All my friends want a Zoom call with me. Poor me or what a blessing I have. All of these people I get to connect with on Zoom or none of.

My friends have asked me to Zoom call with me, right? And focusing on that. Instead of being like, hey, I know I was in some of my friends, like, the one to go first in that scenario, to be like, hey, maybe, like, when it started being like, I don't know if this sounds corny, but you. I'm, like, losing my mind not seeing any of you. Like, can we zoom and, like, have tea or something? And there were some people that were a little resistant to it at first that were like, I'm not really a zoom person. I'm an in person person. Let's just, like, you know, and that's fine. Like, let's have a phone call.

Good luck.

And I'm like, first of all, like, okay. And then they've all since converted. You know, they've worn them down. And it's true. It's like, it's so priceless, especially with your friends or if you're dating someone or your family. I've been so grateful. My family's on the East Coast. Your family was on the. Some of your family's on the east coast, right.

Boston.

And so I've been so grateful for that with them, because I haven't really been able to see them. Right. I'm, like, grateful that I get to FaceTime with my grandma. Even though she has, like, no idea what's going on with the phone. She's like, oh, my God, I can see you. But it does. It makes such a difference.

Totally. And I think that's another really important thing to touch on for this year is this has also been the year of family healing. I have seen every single person going through deep healing with their. Their physical family, their ancestry, their lineage. It has been. I mean, I feel like ancestral healing is just like a mainstream word at this point, which is so amazing and so powerful. So I think that this has really been the year of. When you're sitting in your home. Home, you're sitting in your body, you're sitting in yourself. You're sitting in your ancestry, your lineage, what's around you. And I think also so many of us, you know, when the holidays would come around, all of the articles were like, how to, like, avoid awkward dinner conversations or how to handle your staying with your parents for a weekend and how to, you know, you know, have those conversations with people you don't want to have. And this year, it wasn't that. This year, it's like, you were lucky if you got to see your family. And I think that we all really needed that, that awakening. Even for myself, I was definitely someone who would, you know, not feel very Energized about spending a lot of time with my family because of our differences, but because of the healing that I have done with my family, now I genuinely feel desire to want to spend time with them, which has never been in my entire life. So the opportunity for us was to go under the carpet and clean up those webs and once that dust under there, and what are those conversations that we've needed to have for a really long time that have been long overdue? Or we didn't know how to start the conversation, or we didn't know what to say, or we didn't want to make a big deal over something, but it's really been bothering us, and it's been the reason why we haven't been so close. Like, this has been the year to bring it up. And if you haven't yet, like, there's still time. We still got a month left.

Now, it doesn't end just because the year changes.

Exactly. Exactly. But you can still do it. But I see. I really think that we needed to all collectively stop, stop, drop and roll and deal with our ancestors right now.

Oh, absolutely. And I have that same exact experience. Like, I think I really realized how much I took for granted, you know, even though my family's on the east coast, like, I've never. You know, I'm a friend to a plane, so I never saw that as a big deal. And the past couple years. Years, you know, my brother was on the west coast before, he just moved. So oftentimes, you know, for work reasons or whatever, he couldn't go back home. And I would just go spend holidays with him so that he wasn't alone. And I really realized this year how much I took for granted, like, that I just. There'd always be another time where I could go see them, or there'd always be, like, another. You know, there'd always be another opportunity to go hang out with my grandma. And, you know, I've really had to sit with that. And, like, one of the hardest things I've had to sit with is the fact of kind of like, you had to experience. Like, my grandma's 85. She's gonna be 86 on New Year's Eve. And it scares me to think that I may not get to see her again, you know, and I've had to really, like, sit with that and actually sit with. And same thing for. My parents are much younger, so I have more hope for that. But actually just sit with that. Right. Sit with that and trust that, you know, as soon as that's possible. Like my parents reason I can't see is my parents won't let me. I said I'm willing to quarantine and test and do all of that. They just still don't feel safe with it. My grandma has nodules in her lungs from like cancer and they're just very, very scared for her right now. So I understand that we're FaceTiming, but I've had to sit with that. Like if this is the part of the divine plan, like if this is what it has to be, then I have to respect my parents wishes and her wishes at this time. And I have to respect, respect that, you know, and I have to take responsibility for. Okay, how can I be at peace with this, right? And how can I show up in a way that I'm going to feel as complete as I can feel, right? How can I call or FaceTime or, you know, same thing with my parents, right? It's like, okay, like my parents are totally not open to visitation right now, right. And so it's like kind of just accepting that that's where they're at with it. And even though that's hard of me, I have to respect that and understand that they're scared and they're in a different demographic than I am and be with that and show up in the way that I want to show up for that relationship so that I also can feel peace about that.

I think it definitely, you know, circling back to the first point of uncertainty, like my parents like were fortunate enough, they had Covid, so they have antibodies and they got negative tests. So they came in and visited us here. And when they left, I was like, you know, we might not ever see each other again. And that's the case every single time we've seen each other. But it really hit me we just might not ever see each other again. And how important it is to tell the people that you love that you love them and how important it is to not hold the grudges anymore or to not feel like it's worth having the conversation because you don't feel like dealing with it or you don't know how to bring it up. Just do it now. Because again, we just don't know what the future holds. And there's an immense sadness in that and an immense freedom in it too. To really be you and show up the way that you want to right now in this moment.

Absolutely. And I think that's a good kind of place to full circle. It is that. It's true. It's like the uncertainty of the fact that we don't know if we have tomorrow, or we don't know what a month looks like, or we don't know how long we have with our loved ones. Ones has always been there through all the ages, of all the times. And we have lived in a collective privilege of getting to not be so present with that. Right. Some of us are more present to it than others. Those of us that have had those kind of moments where maybe you lost a loved one unexpectedly, are you dealing with certain things in that? But this year, collectively has given all of us that, if anyone didn't have it, that awareness of being like, we don't know what tomorrow will bring and whether that is. You don't know if you'll be able to go to the gym tomorrow. You don't know if you're going to be able to have a wedding. You don't know if you know you're going to have to deliver a baby by yourself. You don't know if you're going to see your love. Like. And I think. I really do think that there's so much power in living from that place and not letting it bring you into, you know, obviously there, like you said, there's so much sadness with that. Right. There's a lot of mourning that we have to do in the acceptance of uncertainty. Right. And that's a necessary, like, the crying and the feeling, that's like a necessary part of it. But then to get to the other side and think, like, what am I going to do with this wild and precious day? I have this amazing life I have, and what do I feel inspired and divinely, divinely guided to do to now what anyone else is telling me to do? Because at the end of the day, if today is my last day, if it's the last week, if it's the last month, what am I going to. What you're going to be the happiest with is the thing that you actually feel the most called to do, regardless of what anyone else is telling you to do.

I think this is the year that death gets to become our friend. And when we become friends with death, which is the inevitable for all of us, you get to experience the freedom that's on the other side of knowing that this is just an opportunity that we have here. And all of those little details that we stress about, really, in the grand scheme of things, don't matter at all. And you're not going to regret not spending enough time on your emails, on your deathbed or whatever. It is. So what a beautiful like this is what tantra is all about. The more that you are aware of your own death, the freer and more liberated you become. And I think that in our society, death was such a never spoken about thing. It was like death and ghosts, like bad. Don't, don't think about them, don't talk about them. And now, because it's on the forefront of our minds, it's a daily conversation, we realize, am I making the choices that I would be making, knowing that I'm a mortal human? And that doesn't mean like I feel like when people think, oh well, if it was my last day to live or my last year to live, I would just like be on roller coasters all day or like, you know, fucking around and doing things. But would you really? I really think the majority of us would be showing up, sharing our message, spreading our magic with the world, sharing our gifts, living our dharmas like that is really what we would be doing if we knew how much time we have left. So to start just doing that now.

Absolutely. Amen to that. You'd love harder, you live more, you'd shine brighter. And let that be the gift that 2020 gives all of us. Yes.

This is a deep one.

Thanks for doing this with me. Love. This is so fun.

So much fun. And doing these podcasts so invigorates me and energizes me. So if this was my last day, I had a good one.

Me too. I'm glad that we left this world. Our insights and we'll put below, Sahara, as you probably know, has an amazing book coming out called discover your Dharma and she's giving away tons of free goodies if you pre order it. So check out that link below. I also have some awesome free meditations for you all about divinely designing your life. So if you're someone that's been itching to get into a consistent daily meditation practice and you want to look help and you want to connect to your guides and your divine support squad every day and receive that guidance and see, maybe what would you do if this is the last day? Check out that below. It's totally free. And my gift to you.

Thank you all so much for listening. We love you so much. We love you. We can't wait to connect with you on our on our 2021 prediction episode.

Yes, coming soon 2021 prediction.

I hope you got a lot from that conversation. I know I did. And it really just brings us back to the baseline human question of why we are here and how limited our time is and how we can make this life our. Our greatest masterpiece, should we choose. And what a gift it truly is for us all to be alive. So we can't really go deep. We can't. We can't manifest and have the rainbows and butterflies and all the things we want. If we don't talk about the shadows, if we don't talk about death. You know, one of the episodes I did at the beginning of this quarantine was about the greatest fear that's holding us back, and that's the fear of death. And our Western society has really tried to keep us from that. It's like death doesn't happen. It doesn't exist. We've literally created, created so many things to avoid death. And it's a part of life. In fact, it's the only guarantee here. And the more that we can become friends with our mortality, the more free we become in this lifetime. So I hope your 2020 was also a year of great lessons for you. I know that it was. And know that these lessons were exactly your soul's unique curriculum to bridge you towards your true dharma. So thank you for incarnating on this planet at the same time as I did. And I'm so excited for 2021. If you loved this episode, I would love to send you a free gift, which is the first half of my unreleased book, Eat Right for your mind body type. This is a different book than Eat Feel Fresh, my first book ever which is not released anywhere and I am gifting it exclusively to those who leave a review of my podcast in the it. So all you gotta do is head over to itunes where you may be listening to this podcast and leave a review, take a screenshot that you've left it and email it over to me@saharaetfeelfresh.com again, that's Sahara S A H A R A@eatfeelfresh.com and I will send you back the first half of my unreleased book, Eat Right for your mind body Type, which goes all into Ayurveda, dosha, plant based nutrition, body types, all of the things in a really fun and engaging way. So this is my gift to you for free for supporting the podcast. Every single review I personally read, it really helps the podcast be listened to by more people so we can raise the vibration of the planet together. And I am so grateful to have you on this journey. Thank you so much for listening and I'll see you on the next episode. Namaste.

Sam.