366: Finding Courage + Creating Abundance In Your Calling with Ajit Nawalkha

Namaste, it's Sahara Rose. And welcome back to the Highest Self podcast, a place where we discuss what makes you your soul's highest evolvement. If it's your first time listening, welcome. I am so grateful to be reconnected with you in this lifetime. My name is Sahara Rose. I am an author, podcast podcast host, and an ancient soul in a modern body. And I'm so excited for this episode today because we're gonna be really diving deep into one of my favorite topics, which is Dharma, our soul's purpose, the big reason why we are here. And we'll also be diving into how to create a career for yourself, helping others live their purpose. If you have not heard yet, my Dharma Coaching Institute has officially just launched. And who you'll be hearing on the podcast, one of my partners in the project, along with his wife, Nita Bhushan Nivalka, who was on the podcast last week. So I'm really excited for you to get to know Ajit better because he is someone who I find so inspirational. His story is really just such a testament to what is possible for any of us when we really desire something greater for ourselves. He grew up with 23 of his relatives in the same home in Jaipur, India, without a lot of means, even sharing a mattress with three other of his relatives. And his number one goal was just to have his own room, his own bed, his own house placed to himself. And from that desire to want something greater, he became an intern at Mindvalley and worked his way up to become then the CEO of that company for six years, building it to be a multimillion dollar. From there, became the founder of Evercoach by Mindvalley, which is an incredible organization training business coaches. And when I met him and his wife about two years ago now, we instantly bonded over really having this desire to take coaching and make it more sacred, bring back the parts of coaching that we felt like were missing, which were helping people connect to something so much greater than just, you know, the how and the get getting things done and getting clients, but really, really the.

Why, the why we are here and.

How we can connect our coaching to something that really serves humanity in this larger way. So in this episode, we're going to be speaking about his own journey growing up in India, his relative who told him about Dharma from a young age, and the mindset shifts that he made to really help create an entirely new life for himself. We'll also be getting a bit spiritual into what we really believe about Dharma. Are we born with it? How does it really happen. And then we'll be sharing more about Dharma Coaching Institute with you. So if you are feeling the call to become a certified Dharma coach, as well as a certified spiritual life coach, because this is a double certification, so you will have both at Dharma Coaching Institute. We give you all of that information. And again, we are enrolling right now for dci. So if you're wanting to get a little bit more information, head over to dharmacoachinginstitute.com you'll find all the info there. And our class begins May 10, so I highly recommend taking this opportunity. If you're feeling the call to come, join us now. Without further ado, let's welcome Ajit Navalka to the Highest Self podcast. Welcome back to the Highest Self podcast.

I'm Sahar Rose, and I'm so excited to have a really special guest today. I'm actually at his house right now. I just interviewed his wife. So let's welcome Ajit Navalka to the Highest Self podcast.

Welcome. Thank you, Sara. I'm excited to be here.

Yes. And the first question I'd love to ask you is, what makes you your highest self?

What makes me my highest self is being the channel of love and service. I found that in my life as different experiences happened, that seems to be the place where I feel most connected. That's the place where I feel I'm most in service and most authentic to myself. And it feels like the place where, when I'm operating from a place of service and love, it's just easy to, like, flow and be in my higher self.

I love that, and I totally agree. And I feel like so many people because of, you know, 2020, and the shifts we're still experiencing right now are really reevaluating their priorities, you know, of, like, does it matter for me to keep going all the time or living my life on autopilot? And so many people are awakening and making shifts right now and really re questioning their. Their purposes. So we're excited to dive more deeply into that in this conversation. But, you know, your story is so inspiring, and Jaipur is probably my favorite city on earth. I love it so much, and it's so beautiful. And. And your story really just shows how, you know, the resiliency and the grit and the focus that you had allowed you to just create this whole new reality for yourself. So can you share with us a little bit about your upbringing?

Absolutely. So I grew up in the city of Jaipur. I was born in this household of a joint family, as we call it in India. Where your uncles live with you, your aunts live with your grandparents, and your grandparents cousins, and everybody's living in the same house. So I grew up in a house of about 23 people as I was growing up. But that doesn't mean we lived in a mansion or anything like that. It was a small house still. And so I didn't grow up with a lot of abundance or I should reframe that. Not with a lot of abundance of money, But I did grow up with a lot of abundance of intellect and love and understanding of things. So I had an interesting dichotomy of life where my mother was a really religious person, is a really religious person, and my father was a really questioning person, if I may. And my grandfather was even more so. So very early on in life, I was brought up with questioning things. Like I would question religion, I would question, why do we have to do a certain thing? How does it make sense? Does it make sense? And also that environment was very uniquely set up because my grandfather was a unique person in society. Wasn't wealthy like I mentioned, but he was respected as an individual with understanding of human beings really differently. So very often while I was growing up, I would come back from school and we would find 10 people sitting around my grandfather asking him questions and having him talk about things. Sometimes it'll be 11, 12 in the night and people were still there. They would come back again at seven, eight in the morning, and they could never understand what the hell was. We're like, why are there people all the time in this house with already 23 people living? It's crazy, right? And as we grew older, we realized that those people that were coming to our house were not just coming because they were guests. They were coming because they were seeking counsel. They were seeking a coach. Now, at that time, coaching wasn't known, right? But that's where I believe that my early nurturing started. Because I saw somebody being present with a person across the room and being honest with them and helping them guide at the same point in time. Of course, when you are not growing up in wealth, when you are growing up in where you are almost always looking at somebody else and saying, can I have a little bit of that? Like, why are these people successful? What makes them so successful? I grew up with that lack of belief in myself, the lack of abundance with myself, the lack of, can I ever get to a place where I'm comfortable? Can I have my own bed, A mattress on the floor, but just mine, not that I have to share with my brother. Or somebody else or a guest. And that initially drove my behavior to really build an understanding that was beyond what most education systems would teach in India, like, you know, Sahara. And a lot of your listeners might know because as you meet Indians, you see a lot of doctors and engineers and accountants. And that was the narrative in my house. Like, hey, you want to be successful, become an engineer. You want to be successful, become a doctor, become accountant. And while that was something that I trained for, as I was preparing for my engineering, I realized that even if I became one, I will hate it. I would hate it to my core, because I didn't enjoy the process of what an engineer does. There's nothing wrong with engineering, but it was just not for me. But that put me into a situation where I had to take some brave steps even when my family didn't approve of it. So I had to quit engineering. I said, this is not for me. I'm going to quit. I'm going to walk away from this. Which created great chaos in my family. But thanks to my father's questioning nature, he was like, all right, son, here is the truth of life. I am not a wealthy person, right? I can support you for next two, three years. As you graduate through college, you don't have to do an engineering degree. You can do whatever you want, but I only have that much money. After that, you're on your own. And that really shifted me because I realized I was running on the timeline of finding myself. Like, I had to find what works for me. And that was really fascinating because those three years, I experimented with everything that a person can experiment with. I experimented with different careers. I experiment with different companies. I experimented with a student organization that would expose me to all these companies outside of my realm of understanding, and that built an initial understanding of what makes us all tick. What is it that's really important in life? That was my early journey in India.

I love that so much and so many gems in that story. I heard of this man. He was a lawyer, and he realized, you know, after graduating law school that he would never want to be a lawyer. And he told his family, and they were like, how can you quit being a lawyer? You just spent eight years going to law school and spent all this money. You can't quit now. So he continued for the next 50 years and had that exact same feeling he had right when he graduated of, I don't want to be doing this. But he didn't listen to himself that spent the next 50 years working a job that he knew was not in Alignment with his dharma, with his truth. So I. I think that's the story of most people. You know, most people can instantly feel, I don't like doing this. But you just see societal conditioning, and you hear what your parents say, and you think, oh, I guess no one likes what their job is, right? That's being a hashtag, adulting, you know? So I love that you, especially coming from India, where there is so much pressure to succeed and it can feel very competitive and very, very cutthroat to have that trust in yourself and not even know where it would take you to be like, I'm just gonna figure it out because I know this trajectory going to serve me if I continue walking down it.

And like you said, Tara, and you know this, and I'm sure your listeners know this, is that we all know it. Like, it's not that. It's like this hidden thing that we don't know. We know that something's off. Like, something's not aligned. Something doesn't feel real, doesn't feel connected. It feels like, yeah, I'm doing a chore. It's like, you have to force yourself out of the bed. You have to force and push yourself out of your. I have to do this. All right, fine. I'm gonna go do it. When it feels like a lot of us think of it like, oh, this is just life. You know, life's hard. But what if life was actually easy? What if life was made hard by people telling us what we need to do instead of us listening to what we need to do? What if life was actually like our dharma was there to guide us in the direction of what's honest to us? And if we followed that path contrary to popular opinion, we would actually have an easier way. And that's what at least I learned in my life, is the more people I met, they were connected to what they were doing. It was just easy. It didn't feel like work. They didn't feel like, oh, I have to wake up today, and I have to do this, right? They're more like, yeah, I get to do this. Like, they didn't have the concept of time. Suddenly, they were like, I'm in flow. I don't have a problem. They seem to be more abundant. They seem to be more connected. They seem to get things fairly easily. And we met those people, right? They just get things, and they just manifest whatever they want to manifest because they're just so aligned to the Dharma.

I love that. And now for someone who's listening, who's like, I have that feeling that I'm not in alignment with my dharma, but I just don't know how to take that leap. I'm afraid. How would you now with, you know, you're the founder of Evercoach, and you've coached so many coaches. And how would you coach someone into taking that plunge when they don't know what it is that they really want to do?

So fortunately, as several years ago, I was running this company called mindvalley. And while I was at the peak position of it, I was the CEO of the company. I had a crisis in life because I had fallen out of my dharma again. I've fallen out of my purpose again. And that happens sometimes. You're so into it that you forget that you're going into a direction that is not you. And it's a beautiful and fantastic company and everything. But I had found that rest of my life wasn't in alignment with what I wanted to do. And so I had to ask myself the question of actually quitting my diamond relationship. I had to give myself the permission to say, what I'm doing for the company is not perfectly aligned with what I really want to do. And there's bigger calling that I had, and it was a really safe, secure place, which is the situation with a lot of people right now. It's like they feel like, okay, I can keep doing this. At least it pays the bills, right? It's safe, it's secure. And so it's hard to take action when it's safe and when it's secure. My invitation to anybody that is right now at a stage where they're going, well, this is safe and secure. I can't move. I cannot quit. This. This doesn't feel right. I don't know what my dharma is. Is that you only get to know your dharma when you start taking the first few steps. Imperfect action is the most perfect action. Imperfect action is the most perfect action. It also is true that when you start your progress and you find your connection with your dharma, when you know your, you know, where are you in your journey? For example, when you do that discovery of going, oh, this is where I am at right now. This is where I have awareness or I don't have awareness and so forth, you then can start to make progress. You can then can start to take steps because you go, okay, I know one day I am going to be whatever I'm going to be like you have to get comfortable with that is to get, say, I will discover my perfect position, my perfect dharma, my perfect Alignment in time. Because progress, your movement towards it is what helps you find it. What I found is, let's say, if we have to ask ourselves a question, okay, what's your career going to look like in three years? Let's say you were doing a certain job. Like, you're a dentist, you're a yoga instructor. You're doing whatever you're doing, right? Three years from now, what is going to look like? Turi does not understand that. But let's say if I ask, okay, what's your career going to look like in three years? You can give me whatever answer. But if I really ask you, do you know what it's going to look like in three years? You don't know. See, that's the beauty of our universe, right? The thing that we can do is to hope for a great future but live in the greatest moment, right? Present, right now is all you got, right? We know that intuitively. We all know that. But do we follow it if we say, today, today I'm going to live in alignment with my dharma. Today I'm going to live with joy. Today, I'm going to live with happiness. Today I'm going to live with, you know, alignment to whatever my calling is. And I know that tomorrow is uncertain and it will reveal itself as I create progress in it. I think there is a lot of truth to that. There's a lot of truth to getting comfortable with the uncertain and knowing that if today is joyous, Tomorrow will be two.

I think if there's one lesson 2020 taught us is that the experience of your life is a result of how comfortable you can be in that unknown. And people who can really be in that dance of like, hey, I have no idea what I'm doing this summer or, you know, next year or next week at that. And to be okay with that just allows you to open up to all of the experiences that life is awaiting you. And I just see how so many people, you know, that desire within them to shift, it's so potent, but they don't say yes to it, that they could miss out on an ent. Higher trajectory of their life experience. They could have. I mean, imagine if you were just like, you know what? I need to be an engineer. Like, I wouldn't make money doing anything else. And you'd still be in JPO right now, right? We wouldn't be having this conversation. And all of the people who you would have have affected wouldn't have had their lives affected, and then they wouldn't have gone on and affected More people's lives and like that ripple effect that one person has. So I see so many people and, you know, you also coming from India, it's like a lot of us feel like it's selfish to be living our purpose of like, who am I or my parents sacrificed for me? Or like this guilt around living your purpose. But actually, one of the most selfish things we can do is not live our purposes because we're withholding our gifts from all of the people who need us to rise up into our lights.

Absolutely. And there are many, of course, theories around a lot of things that happen around us, Right. Even science is, if you really think about it, it's a theoretical process in many ways where you could prove something and prove something completely different in a couple of years from now. So there's that much uncertainty that we live around. Even science is like that. Theories that were established in 1800s are not valid in 1900s are not valid in 2000s. So everything is changing at all times. The thing that we need to remember is that all of us have all of those paths that are always available to us. It is never any path that is the perfect path. So I think the decision making of, hey, I'm doing this, it's safe, it's secure. How do I really choose if I don't know where I want to go is almost like saying that I don't know. This is the path is like saying, I am God and I should know what's going to happen tomorrow, right? I am the universe and I should know what should happen tomorrow. And if we were to really believe in the universe and of all things, then if you should know, you know that universe is always creating things for you, right? Universe is by design structured to support whatever journey you want to take, right? The reason why I feel most people tend to not go towards their dharma and a lot of times they stop themselves from that progress is because the law of universe that I think we don't follow is that universe is, and I like to call it this way, that think about universe as a blue collar worker, right? It's taking orders from you to say, what do you want? Right? Say you go, hey, universe, you know what? I would like to have a fantastic coaching business and I will generate, say, a really comfortable life. I want to make six figures, right? You place in that order. The blue collar worker says, all right, ma'. Am. All right, sir, I'm going to go get to business. And they start working, they start working, they start working. They're working on it, right? Two Days later, you go, you know what, universe? This seems really hard. Let me be a yoga teacher. And that's all I want to do. Just give me $10,000. The blue collar worker says, but I have this order from you. $100,000. Become a coach. It's like, what? Okay, going to that work. So what the blue collar worker, the universe's creation is doing is constantly changing their position because we fall out of a Dharma, right? So the order placed to the universe doesn't even have time to really manifest into your reality. And that is the biggest challenge I feel today, or at least with the coaches that we've been working with. A lot of time. It's like you give up in the first 15 days, 30 days, one month, two months. If things get hard, you start to give up. Instead of saying, hey, give universe time. It's a big, tall order. You gave an order of $100,000. You've never made $50,000 in your life. Give it time. You want to be a coach, you want to be successful, you want to impact lives. Give it time. It's a tall order. Give it a little bit space. Give it a little bit more energy. Give it a little bit more work. It will all work out. But I think that's just where we just fall off all the time.

I think there's this, like, battle that a lot of spiritual people have of, like, well, if it's my destiny, it's just going to happen, so I'm going to sit back and just, like, let it happen. But then, you know, the underlying belief is I am not empowered. I can't create my reality. You know, And I think that I actually curious, how much do you think your Dharma is, like, your destiny? Like, you're born to fulfill this specific role. And how much of it do you think it's. You know, you have maybe, like, an essence, but then you have all this free will of all the ways it could show up. Or do you think there is any kind of specific Dharma that someone has? It's all created by you?

I think our Dharma is very. And everybody's Dharma is very much so. And this will get a little bit out of what we are kind of talking about. But I really believe that there are multiple universes that we coexist in all times. Right. The experience that we are having is. Let's just call it is the earth number one or universe number one. That's where this experience of physical conversations happening. And there's universe number two that I am not aware of. I know it's there, but I'm not aware of. And they're having a different experience. They might be engineer, like, they might be not even born in India, I don't know. But there are multiple universes, and there are multiple layers of these conversations that are happening. So when we talk esoterically, how does the Dharma show up? Is your Earth, your universe is defined by you. It is completely your will, which path that you're going to choose, because that is the universe that you've chosen. So there is some kind of destiny in there, because this is your universe. Right. So there's kind of predetermined, but it is not really, because you have to make the choices to get to the destiny. So it's kind of that kind of a mix of those two things is. That's how I feel. Dharma shows up. So you could be making a lot of strides in a particular direction right now, and suddenly it might occur to you after listening to this conversation, that you really don't like what you're doing or you love what you're doing, and you like to progress even further on it. As you listen to this conversation, know that everything that you did, it actually accumulates. Relating back to my story, yes, I didn't do engineering, but that made me a really analytical thinker, which allows me to really understand the nuances of human beings, allows me to understand how I really understand things really differently. It helps me coach people in what I call first principle. Coaching methodology. And I use first principle thinking, thanks to my engineering background. Right. Not even the full engineering background, because I didn't become an engineer. But that study itself made me think in different ways. So you would not connect that dot ever. How is that even related, coaching and engineering? It's not. It might not be that right now you're a lawyer or you're a dentist, you're a doctor, and you go, oh, but I want to really become, you know, somebody like Sahara or somebody like Ajit or somebody like whoever that inspires you. I would love to do that. And you may think, oh, but there is no connection. I'm a dentist. What are you talking about? Well, first of all, my wife was a dentist, and she's doing this work right now, and she's amazingly impactful in the dentist community and outside of it as well. But you could totally say, hey, I'm going to take this, what I'm learning right now, and I'm going to expand my purpose into the dimension and use what I have, carry it on, and become more aligned with what gives Me, joy, that happiness, that fulfillment, and creates more value in the world. That lawyer that is 50 years doing or 40 years doing things that are not aligned well, they can go today and say, hey, you know what? I feel like I have more to give than to take from this society. I'm going to use my 40 years of experience. I'm going to top it up with some learning of human beings, and then I'm going to bring this message to other lawyers so they don't waste the 40 years of their life doing they don't care for. I'm sorry, can I say, always for all the time.

I love that. And it really just reminds me of everything happens for a reason. And also we give it a reason. Right? You know, that lawyer could have pivoted earlier, but chose 40 years. However, even just their story is creating change right now. You know, even in an unconscious way, they're still doing their dharma of raising consciousness. And I think all of us, all of our dharmas, on the highest level, that highest quantum field, is to raise consciousness. It's to make the world a better place. It's to uplevel the vibration of humanity. But then each of us, because of our direct experiences and upbringings and personalities and astrology and archetypes and like all of the things, is going to give us our unique lens of doing so. And, you know, right now, after these unprecedented levels of career shift, job loss, careers going online, and the spiritual awakening happening behind the scenes of that too, so many people more than ever are beginning to ask themselves that question of what is my greater purpose here? What is beyond just this career or cause? Your dharma is not your career. You know, it's beyond that. So we're in this really interesting time that we're at the tip of the iceberg, I feel, of people beginning to really ask themselves, what is my purpose? How can I live it? And we've been talking about this for months and months and months now. And that's how we came up with this incredible opportunity that we are so excited to share with you. So, so we're super excited to present with you the Dharma Coaching Institute. Now, this is the first and only institute that actually certifies Dharma coaches. So you will be trained by myself, by Ajit, by his wife Neitha, who is just on the podcast to actually guide people with our frameworks, systems. His many, many years of coaching coaches to have boundaries and a business and like all of the masculine and the engineering, and your researcher, researcher, inter entrepreneur archetype, Nina brings in the nurture Archetype, also researcher. I bring in visionary. We all have a teacher. Like all of the archetypes are really present between the three of us to create the most comprehensive, not only dharma coaching institute, but it's also going to be a double certification towards becoming a spiritual life coach. So we are so excited to share this with you. So for people who are there wondering, well, I don't really know fully if I'm living my dharma, how can I become a dharma coach? What advice do you have for them?

So firstly, I want to speak a little bit to what you were already talking about, which is the world has changed in the past year and a half, but the world is going to change even more in the next five to 10 years because more and more people are waking up and more and more need is coming to purpose and alignment and coaching in general. Which is why the certification is so great, because it mixes spirituality with life coaching. And that's a big piece that's missing. Firstly, with all this need that's coming up and it's by data. I'm not just saying it because I run evercoach. No, you can look at data. The life coaching business coaching industry is one of the fastest growing industries in the world. And it's not because of tactile. You know, coaches are needed because people need coaching. It's not just coaches pushing the industry, it's actually the need that is pushing the industry for the matter. I've spoken to so many individuals and companies and what is the biggest struggle? There are not enough good coaches. They're not enough good coaches that understand that life is just not this, you know, psychological conversation. The psychology part of coaching has taken over because it's the oldest side and it's the easy to talk about side. Where else what is the missing piece is a lot of times you have a conversation with someone and after 10 sessions they're still like, but I don't know where I want to go. Because all you're dealing with is psychology of the person. We are not a psychology body. We as an overall human being is a spiritual body first. Then there is psychology and then there is biology. And all of them integrated is the best way to approach it. But nobody has really tackled spirituality and life coaching integrated together and addressed in a way where a person, when they go through a session go, oh, I see how I am one being like, that's just not there. And that's really when we were talking, we were like, hey, listen, Thermal coaching institute would be the perfect blend for a coach that really wants to transform a person's life in many different ways that you can do that, but you want to transform a person's life. You want to work with an individual. No better way than to mix spirituality with life coaching, mix spirit with psychology, blend it together and bring it to the table. Because now you have no bounds per se. You're not going, oh, I can only do this or I can only do that. There's no place where you can't go. You can go everywhere where spirituality and psychology mix together as a spiritual life coach, the Dharma coach. That's what really we are doing, giving you understanding that that is why most people don't get results with life coaching. The biggest. Another big challenge that if you. If somebody that's listening is. Is a life coach already, they would have found this already in their life is they enroll clients, but they don't re enroll clients. They work with clients, but they don't work with clients again. And the reason why that happens is because most coaches are so stuck in psychology that they can't create a transformation. They are so hell bent on saying, okay, can only do A, B and C and D. And this is only the step by step. And the limitation is that they don't. They're not able to cater a wide variety of a very important piece, which is spirituality. And that is also another reason why we said, hey, if you're a coach, if you're already doing work like yoga or anything like that, perfect blend, you can just top it up with spiritual life coaching with dharma coaching, and you have become a rock star result creator. Which is the most important thing for a coach, is you can drive results for your clients. And that is why this integration is so very important. What we are covering in spiritual life coaching is we are bringing the Dharma method, the Dharma ideology, the whole book and your programs and everything, the best of your training. We are saying, okay, let's bring it all together. Let's train people in this, which is the best way to really guide anybody to their dharma and their spirit and the spiritual path. And we said, okay, let's bring the best of psychology, the best of coaching, the best of training around the psychological aspects of coaching. We said, okay, let's bring that together. Just blend it. So me and Nita are bringing the psychology, you are bringing the spirituality. And we are saying, let's blend it together to give the perfect product to people who are interested in a finding their own Dharma and secondly, living their dharma by helping other people live a better or aligned or happy, more joyous life, right? And then we are doing something even more special. I have trained thousands of coaches in building their coaching business, especially when they're new. So somebody who's coming in hot and fresh, and they're like, hey, yes, this is my calling. I gotta do this. And they go, but, hey, there's this whole thing of business that I hear about. Like, I hear coaches don't make money. Well, they don't because, a, they have a bad product. So we're gonna fix that problem first. And then second, because they don't understand the fundamentals of basic. It's actually really simple to get successful in your coaching business if you knew what you were doing, if you were not falling for all the traps that you hear online and all that, don't worry about all that stuff. Focus on some few things that we're going to show you as a. That has consistently created results. So this is all tested. This is all proven. We know it works. It has worked consistently over years at this point, and which is why we have so many success stories.

I love that so much. And I feel like so many coaches, too, they are afraid to go niche because they don't want to miss out on clients. So they're like, sure, I'm just an overall coach of, like, anything. And then they don't go niche. So then people don't know them for whatever problem they're going through. And then that's why they don't get booked and end up no longer being a coach, and they end up going back to whatever it was that they were doing before. And there is no other school out there that teaches Dharma coaching. It is. We are literally the pioneers of this right now. And the people who join this are gonna be that first generation of Dharma coaches who are essentially creating a new field of coaching that integrates the mind, body, spirit. I know for myself, with health coaching, I felt very stuck only talking about food. I'm like, clearly, this person has a lot more going on in their life that I don't need to keep telling them, oh, don't eat, you know, a bunch of food at midn when you're crying. There's something deeper happening there. But I didn't have the training of how to create that transformation. It was very like, just step back and, you know, just don't say the wrong thing. And then I see yoga teachers, and it's just about the physical body. And then I see people who do more. Just, like, overall coaching, it's just about the mind and how do we really create transformation it's integrating the three. And you. I mean, you live the most Ayurvedic life I've ever seen. But that's what Ayurveda really says. And then how can we now take in the more masculine principles of creating boundaries, creating systems, creating frameworks? You know, I see so many women. They're like, I want to be a coach, but, you know, I just don't want to charge for it because people need the help. And then what happens? They don't make money doing it. They have to spend their time making money doing something, and they go back to square one. So that's why we saw all of the issues, like, hours and hours of, like, what are the issues people are having? What are the holes here? And how can we create something that not only can.

Because some people were born, like, have you felt this?

Like, you were born to help other people find your purpose? Like, your purpose is to help other people find their purpose. And I think some people feel a lot of, like, imposter syndrome around that. Of, like, oh, well, I don't have, like, books, or I don't have, like, a six figure business. Who am I to help someone else find their purpose? But just like your grandfather, there have always been guides. Like, some of us were born to be guides and to see things for other people in that bird's eye perspective. And that's why you're here. That's why you were born with that gift. And then it takes reconnecting with that side of yourself and letting yourself be seen and recognize and claim and own. Like, yes, my purpose is to help you find your purpose. And that just brings everything together, and it creates that living in flow and manifestation and all of these things, the piece of the puzzle that is missing. You can't manifest abundance when you're not living your dharma, you know? So it's like, let's bring that into the picture, and then let's also. That ripple effect. And that is the greatest way we're gonna shift humanity at this time.

Yeah, absolutely. And you're so right. If you're not in alignment with your purpose, it's like it's trying to chase in the other direction of where your flow is and hoping that it will create income for you or create joy for you. It will not. And that's why, again, a lot of coaches that start the journey, don't finish the journey or don't really get successful in it is because they fall out of it. They fall out of the Dharma. They fall out of saying, hey, this is My alignment. I'm going to seek alignment. I truly believe, and I know this is a big trigger for especially people who have tried coaching ever in their life is they go, hey, I can't make money doing it. Like, the thing that you address, right? And that's a big trigger, mostly because money is the outcome of our work in the world, right? Our representation of Adharma in the world. And if you are putting in that, not by stressing yourself out, because it'll bring that kind of money. Like, we've met a lot of people who are very wealthy, but they are not having a good time in life. So, yes, you can make money by doing things that will really push you over the edge and you'll not enjoy it and will cause bad health and everything. But Universe is always responding to the energy that you're putting in there. If you're putting the energy of saying, hey, I want money, as a response of my service, you'll get money. If you want respect, you'll get respect. My grandfather didn't care for the money. He cared for respect, so he got ton of money. It, right? I cared for having abundance as well. So I'm blessed with a lot of abundance around me of wealth, right? And also respect. So I chased Dharma in that alignment. You chase Dharma in your alignment, where whatever you seek, you get. Universe has our back. Like, and we know this, and I'm sure you know this. The listeners of this podcast know this because they hear you all the time. Is Universe got you with challenges? Are you giving it time? Are you giving it the focus and attention that you want to give? Live, Right. Are you living your purpose? Right? And the greatest purpose you can live is to help somebody else live theirs. It's the greatest blessing as teachers. You resonate with it. I resonate with it. I'm sure if you're listening to it, you resonate with it. Is because we all have a little teacher in us, right? And if you get to express that with somebody else and you see somebody else fly, oh, the joy we get.

And I really believe our abundance is in a direct correlation with how alignment we are with our Dharma. Like, if when you are in alignment with your Dharma, abundance will show up in all areas, like from family to home to money to all of the things. But I see all of these people that they, you know, try to become a cookie cutter coach and just say what the other person is saying, and then because they're not living in alignment with their Dharma, it's not unique. People can feel it. And the Universe can feel it because he can't lie to that shit. And it doesn't end up working. So we need more people sharing their direct experiences. Those years that, that you may have the story that you wasted those years, those are actually the defining years that you. Like, you can go to an engineering corporation and be like, hey, like, I was once in your position, or I see the world like you do. I can't do that because I definitely was not an engineer. I can't even do math. But. But you can do that. I can go into a room of like, yoga people, though. I feel like you could too. But, you know, I've go into my room. You can go into your room. Like, you can go into your room. Like, we all have our people that we have direct access to that we understand. And that was all part of our journ. Like, I feel like sometimes people think it's too late or those don't fit in, and it's really actually taking those things. Even the things that we're the most ashamed about, like the things that we feel like, I don't want people to know this about me or this doesn't fit into the puzzle. I'm sure for you there is an element of maybe like, shame or like, who am I to go from, you know, big CEO to like, becoming a coach and being more of a personal brand? It's like a. Oh, my God. Like, did you ever feel that?

Oh, hell yeah. I would say even until recently, a lot of times, even when you are following a Dharma, sometimes you doubt it. You feel like, hey, I don't know if I'm pursuing this right? And that's where I think I like to remind myself, I rather be honest than be right. I'd rather be honest than I be right. So if I'm honest with who I am, if I'm honest with what I'm doing, the shame seems to not matter. Because I go, is it honest? Am I doing the best I can? Am I coming from a place of love and service? Am I being heart centered? Am I being in alignment with what I found my dharma to be? And if it is all true, then some people will think that I'm not doing a good job or I'm not good enough for them. And that's okay by me. They hopefully are following their Dharma. I would not say that for anybody else because I feel that's not. Not the energy I want to put out. But if somebody feels that's what they got to do, that's what they got to do. But Let me be honest with myself, because all I got, really, if we were to again believe that we were all one universe, all connected, and we're all eventually all just, you know, stardust in many ways, then how does it matter, right? The only thing that matters at the end of life is that you live in an honest, honest life to yourself. Were you joyous? It doesn't matter if somebody else thinks you're joyous or not. It doesn't matter if somebody else thinks you were rich or poor or happy or unhappy, because they are also going to be the same stardust, and their opinion really is not the matter. The point. The point is to live this life in the greatest alignment that we possibly can and make this physical experience so very exciting, so very fun, so very joyous. Then when we are having our cosmic experience, we miss our physical experience. You're like, damn, that physical experience was dope. Let's do it again, right? That would be fun, right? That would be amazing. So that's. I definitely felt the pain of feeling like that I don't deserve it, or I may not be the right person for it. I've doubted myself, and I think all of us do at some level, even when we are really good at something, almost feel like when you don't doubt yourself, maybe you've stopped being curious and stopped being interested. And that may be a whole different conversation to have if that is happening for someone. But if you're curious, curious, you're interested, you would go, let me know more about that. Let's. Let's discover what's in there, right? What's in me when I am feeling so scared and feeling not good enough about it. There's something more to talk about here, something more to discover, learn, teach, so I can experience more of this experience of life that I'm having. So I feel that's what was honest to me at the time and is honest to me even now, is to say, hey, I'm just a living experience. And that emotion is an equal part. But that's not my dharma. That is an emotion that will fluctuate tomorrow, right? Which is, again, some of the things that we talk about in certified Dharma coach is how do you regulate your emotions? Like, how do you go from these crazy emotional swings, and how do you really regulate and find your balance and go back to, oh, I catch it, and how to help your clients do that? Because once you master that, the emotional challenges that we go through, through, whoa, that's a big win for all of us, because those emotions can really Throw us off.

I love that so much. And for people to know that Dharma is not a one time process. It's not like, oh, like, here I am at the top of the mountain and it's done. I'm the CEO of Mind Valley, you know? And it's like, that's one peak of the mountain, and it's a mountain range. And it continues to evolve and deepen and deepen. And the more you experience the truth of your soul, the more awareness you have. And then your outer reality is going to shift because you're going to be like, oh, there's this whole other side of myself that I wasn't expressing in this current manifestation of my reality. So I can't ignore this now. In fact, when you ignore it, it becomes so crippling. It feels like you're a lion stuck in a cage. And I think so many people right now, because of COVID because of everything happening, are like, wait, I have these other sides of myself. And once you know them, you can't unlearn them. You can't forget it. It's just gonna get louder and louder and louder until you take action. And then it's like, whoa, oh, here is a whole new world. That the reason why it was painful was because it was pushing me to take action and say, yes, True.

Yeah. And I kind of want to speak to that last bit that you said that taking of action, which is also karma or karma, Karma is the whole give and take thing. But karma is you doing the work, right? Once you find your Dharma or Dharma, you have to do your karma, your karma, because the result of the outcome of your Dharma is very directly proportionate to your karma. So you can listen to this conversation and say, I gotta find my Dharma and then do nothing about it. It's gonna do nothing to you, Right? Yes. You had the con. Listen to the conversation, but do something about it. Do the action so that Dharma can manifest itself, so you can keep doing the karma in the direction and alignment of your Dharma. Giving you that joy, giving you that fulfillment, giving you that. That alignment to the greater universe.

I love that so much. And I think so many of us. And I found myself doing this and I stopped this pattern of, like, I would listen to one podcast and just, like, listen to the next, like, go on my day just like, and not do the embodiment, you know? And I think that that's really what we speak into so much embodiment over information. You can have all the information in the world, not embody any of it. What does it mean so to take something, take action, embody it, practice it, live that experience that will take you so much further than having all of this information about things that you apply.

That is so beautifully put. And I think that is why there are so many podcasts and very few action takers. In context. Exactly right. But still, I think spreading this information out is increasing the consciousness of the universe, and I think having this conversation is very important. But thank you very much for sharing that, because a lot of us find ourselves in that situation.

Right, right.

I listened to this great thing, and, yeah, it was great. And then I just went about doing.

Whatever next and onto the news. Yeah. And it's like, okay, if you. So if this is striking a chord within your heart, you can feel that your dharma is to help others find their dharma. You know, you were born for a greater purpose, and you know that maybe this is a part of your journey that will guide you to what comes next. Then we invite you to head over to dharmacoachinginstitute.com we are taking applications right now. If you're listening to this later, you can join us on our wait list. We're so excited to just bring you into this portal, like a true portal of transformation. I feel like it's like a spiritual car wash. Like, you're going to enter into this experience. You're going to go through some steps. You're going to come out with this shiny new version of yourself and the ripple effect that has on your kids and your parents and your community and every single person whose lives that you touch, and then their ripple effect and their ripple effect. And that's why, you know, for us, it's. It's so far beyond money, success, and, like, we've been so fortunate to experience that, that we're beyond it, that we're like, how can we really be of service at this time when so many people are experiencing uncertainty, confusion, job loss, apathy, depression, anxiety? It is clinically proven that purpose is the remedy for that. So if we can help people find their purpose and inspire them to help others find their purpose, too, I believe that is truly how we'll raise consciousness. So we're so excited to have you in.

Yeah, super excited and pumped. I think, like you rightly said, if we could help few of us find our purpose, think about the ripple effect it has on society, not just for now, but for years and centuries from now with us all living in alignment with our purpose, that would be a beautiful world. World.

I actually believe that with the Dharma coaches who end up joining us and saying yes to this. We may actually create this to be the first generation of everyone living their dharma. Like your little son Ari. He could be amongst the first. Like, they're, they're. They won't have to do all the unlearning that we had to do, all the deconditioning all the way. What did my parents tell me? It's just like, I want to be a rocket scientist, so I want to be a rocket scientist. Like, I want to end climate change, so I'm going to do it. And I really believe that it's up.

To us to create those shifts.

Shifts to guide people, to show kids from the time that they're growing up that it's possible for them. And then we will naturally have solutions to all of the world's problems because there is someone who is designed to be that solution.

Absolutely.

Yay. Well, we're so excited to have you again.

That link is in the show notes.

Dharmacoachinginstitute.Com thank you so much for sharing your wisdom with us today, Ajit. I'm so grateful to have you here.

Thank you so much for inviting me. It was super fun talking about this. Yay.

I hope you feel inspired from that conversation. And it helps to remind you that your Dharma is your birthright. It is the reason why you are here. So please don't let any limiting beliefs hold you back from being of service in the way that you are meant to be, sharing your gifts in the way that you were born to. Now, if you are feeling the call to become a certified Dharma and spiritual life coach, we invite you to head over to dharmacoachinginstitute.com again. That is dharmacoachinginstitute.Com the link is over in the show notes. You'll find all the information there. Class starts May 10th, so if you're feeling the call, take action now and come join us. And if you're listening to this, after May 10, we will probably be opening again sometime in the fall. So head over to the website anyways to join. Join our wait list. I am so excited to meet the future Dharma coaches. It has been such an aligned launch. It really has been so easy and effortless because so many of you have already been feeling the call, have already naturally been helping others in your lives find more purpose. And now you can finally make this an official career for yourself. So if this feels like you, you've always been that friend that's been helping others find their purpose that then take action on that and create a career for yourself where you can really set parameters that allow people to experience success and also allows you to create a livelihood doing so. So again, head over to dharmacoachinginstitute.com you'll find all the information there. And we're so excited to welcome you inside. I hope you enjoyed this episode and I'll see you on the next one. Namaste. There.