369: Remembering Your Soul’s Purpose with Sahara Rose

Namaste, it's Sahara Rose. And welcome back to the Highest Self Podcast, a place to discuss what makes you your soul's highest evolvement. I am so excited to share with you today's episode because it is actually an interview I was on on Ben Harris's Feeling Free podcast and we really got to go deep into different topics that I don't get to normally speak about, especially in relation to Dharma, but into spirituality and past lives and all of the different rabbit holes we can get into. So I'm really excited to share this conversation with you because I love diving deep with someone and exploring different realms of consciousness and really bouncing off each other and going deeper into our own truths. And this is really what this conversation is. So if you aren't familiar with me, this is a wonderful episode to get started. In it, I describe what Dharma is. Your Dharma being your soul's purpose, the big reason why you are here. I most recently wrote the book Discover your Dharma, which came out this January. It's available wherever books are sold worldwide, as well as on Audible, ebook, Kindle, et cetera. So if you just look up Discover your dharma or head over to iamsaharrose.com dharma you'll be able to find links there internationally, as well as submit your receipt to get different bonuses, including my free meditation, embodiment practice and tapping. So in this conversation I share a lot about exploring Dharma from a deeper level and different things that may come up for you in your journey, such as feeling stuck, feeling overwhelmed, being uncertain about what direction you are meant to take, and so much more. So I'm super excited for you to tune in, sit back and relax with a cup of chai and let's dive into this conversation.

And before we get started, I have an announcement for you. Do you feel deep in your soul that you have a purpose but are overwhelmed and confused about where to start? Are you a multi passionate person who needs a clear focus and direction so you can truly make progress and impact this year? Do you know deep down that your highest form of joy is your highest form of service, but need clarity on how to make that your reality? Well, you're not alone. Our school system and society has not trained us to follow our intuition and honor our Dharmas. In fact, it can feel like totally foreign territory. But the thing is, discovering your Dharma is the most important work you can do. And without discovering our Dharma, we will never experience true happiness because happiness is the byproduct of living your purpose. I was where you might be right now, confused and overwhelmed about my own Dharma, questioning if I even had one, if my dreams were just wishful thinking, or if my obstacles had happened to be for a reason. Because it was my opportunity to share them. And through my journey of deconditioning and unraveling and getting true with myself for many, many years, I finally got the courage to write my first book, second book, third book, my newest book, discover your Dharma and help thousands of others discover their Dharmas too. So I'm so excited to bring you the first ever course, the 21 day Dharma Dharma Discovery Journey. In this course in just 21 days, in less than 10 minutes a day, I will be your Dharma coach, guiding you step by step on how to discover your Dharma. So if you're interested in learning more, head over to iamsaharrose.com Dharma discovery Again, that's I am saharrose.com Dharma discovery the link is in the show notes and I'm so excited to see you live in your dharma.

Sahara thank you so much for being here. How in the hell? Actually, I heard someone start saying instead of how in the hell, how in the heaven, which I thought was funny and cool. But either way, just thank you so much for being here and I appreciate you so much in your presence because I know your time, your energy is sacred. So thank you so much for being here.

Ah, thank you so much for having me and for reaching out. I'm so grateful to be here.

So before we go a little or way deep, I think it's important. As for people who haven't heard the word dharma or they've heard the word dharma and don't know what it means, what does Dharma mean?

So the word dharma in Sanskrit has over 16 different definitions, but the most ancient definition of it is your soul's purpose. So the big reason why you are here, and I like to think of it like your mission statement. So a company's mission statement is, for example, we are here to merge together two different cultures. Or your personal mission statement could be, I'm here to raise consciousness or bring beauty to the world or connect women back to their bodies, et cetera. But underneath that mission statement are all of the different services. So these are different careers you can have, roles you can play, projects you can work on, ways that this energy can express. So truthfully, at the highest level, all of our dharmas is the same. We are all here to raise consciousness. We are all here to make the world a better place. However, the unique way that Source expresses through us, through our personality, our upbringing, our obstacles Our childhood, all of these different elements that make us. Us give that fractal of light a direction to point to. And that really is what our dharma is. So I like to think of it as the unique freque that only we can bring to the world.

That's dope. And I don't know why I must have missed it. I don't know, but. Because I've heard you obviously talk about this, but that hit me in a different way, because, yeah, ultimately, we all are. Have the same purpose, but different. And when you talk about, like, the fractals, that's super interesting. When you. I'm curious. When you're out in the world talking about these things, and I know you're. Your world is different than, you know, typical worlds. But when you talk about, like, fractal, the fractalization, how do people respond to that? Just generally?

I mean, that's actually the first time I expressed in that unique word form right now that came through. But, you know, I always just. I can just feel where a person is at, and then I will speak to them. So if I'm on Good Morning Milwaukee, I will not. I will not talk about. I'm more like. It's just your. Your overall mission statement, right. That I think that's something everyone can understand. So it. I always just speak of the level of consciousness that someone is at, and I could feel that you were going to get that vibe.

Well, thank you. That's cool. So I think. I mean, how many times a day do you get the question, how do I find my purpose?

You know, interestingly enough, I really seek to empower others. So the messages that I get are no longer, how can I find my purpose? The messages I get from people are, I'm living my purpose, and here's what I'm understanding. And I read your book, and now I got offered a job as a radio host or whatever else is happening. So I think people can feel because I am not here to. No one can know your purpose. I don't know what your purpose is. I'm still only remembering my purpose as I walk through this path of life. So I seek to empower people to know that it's not even finding your purpose. It's remembering your purpose. You already know your soul's purpose. You just have all of these layers and conditioning that you have held onto that have caused you to forget the truth of who it is that you already are. So when we strip ourselves and we're like, hey, what's this hat, this limiting belief? I got from my child, this jacket, this fear that I will never make it as an artist. Or these socks which say, only if I do finance, I'll make money. When we strip ourselves from all of these, we're like, wait, I have already been the son, and I have, for whatever reason, forgotten.

Oh, damn. Okay, this is so good. I'm glad you're already going here, because, yeah, this is awesome. So there's so many things I want to go to, but it'll flow perfectly. Let's just start with the sun, because when you said I forgot that I was the sun, like, whoa, I touch on that because, yeah, that's an amazing statement.

So I believe we're so much more than human beings, but we're really sun beings. And to me, the sun is the ultimate muse. It shines its light regardless of whatever direction or person or thing is in front of it. It just shines its omnipresent light in all directions. And that is the truth of who we are. We are the sun. We are living embodiments of that radiance. And it's like a candle that when I activate my internal flame, I can pass that flame on to you. But then your flame, it's not coming from me. It's its own individual flame that can then go on and activate the flame of others and others and others. So when I remember my sunlight, I shine my light on you, and you may be a shadow to be like, screw you. I hate you. Why are you shining so brightly and be super triggered by it? And that's often what happens right before we're like, oh, wow. It's so blinding for me because it's reminding me of what I have been forgetting, what I have been afraid of. And then when we are able to overcome past that, we're able to remember the light that is inside of us. And then it creates this beautiful domino effect. So that's why, you know, whenever I'm lost or confused, I just ask, what would the sun do? And it's always my guide forward.

That's dope. And I like to go back to the previous question, when you said how you no longer get DMS about how do I find my purpose? I think that's so important. And that says a lot about you, too, of, like, what you're embodying. So just I want to make sure I acknowledge that. Like, that really does. Because so many coaches or healers or whatever you want to call us get stuck in that loop of we want to be of service and quote, unquote, fixing People. So, like, for real, that's like, major props to you that you're getting those types of messages and, like, your, like, embodiment in that area. And it's super. So when you say remembering, that's literally. That's like. That's just. That's me too. Like, that's what I say. And, like, I have a retreat coming up that's called remember your truth. So I'm just preaching the choir, but I'm just hyping you up, I guess. But I'm loving the combo. So with you personally, if we were to go back to one of your first moments or a key moment moments that you remember, because it is a practice of feeling that fear, embracing it, navigating it. And I know you've had different quote, unquote lives away from here and also in here during different purposes and stuff like that, but in this current life. And then are you down to talk about past life stuff? Sure, that'd be dope. So in this current life, what fears have you navigated into this now moment?

So I believe we were each born into the microcosm of the macrocosm that we came here to solve. So I was born in a lineage of female suppression and patriarchy and child marriage. My mother was a refugee and my dad was an immigrant. So really, they came to this country with one purpose, to survive. How can we make enough money to survive and be safe? You know, they escaped from Iran, where there was an Islamic revolution and a war happening with Iraq. My mom fled by foot. So, of course, their number one. Their number one goal is how can I just be safe? Two years they came to the United States and they had me. So it's like our first child. I'm the first person to be born in the United States. So let's make sure she does all of the safest things. And I believe that first of all, I even chose that experience to see firsthand all of the violations of human rights that were happening in the world. Like seeing firsthand my uncles being political prisoners and again, all of these different situations, I just spoke of saying firsthand, what does a lack of freedom look like? And then because of that mixture of my soul choosing that, but then also being born into seeing what it looks like to still not be free, even if you're in a free country. I always wanted more. At the same time, I felt the sense of responsibility, the savior complex we just mentioned of I need to save the world. I was born here. So now I owe this lifetime to save all, all of the other people, I will do it first thing. And it's. It's a beautiful desire that we have of like, I'm going to save the world. And who are we to think that we're stronger or better or smarter than the universe, you know? So I was on this journey of saving the world and I moved to D.C. i went to George Washington University, and I was studying international development. And my goal was to be an international human rights lawyer. I was volunteering. I was the president of Amnesty International, like, very deep in the human rights space. And it wasn't until I was in college that my first detour happened of experiencing really crippling health issues. My body began shutting down and went to perimenopause when I was 21 years old. So when that happens and your body is no longer producing any type of hormones, the doctors told me by the time I'm 50, I will probably be handicapped because I'm no longer creating any estrogen in my body. Never be able to have children. And then all of the side effects that come with your body going into that state of insomnia, digestive issues, like fainting all the time, so many different problems. So I couldn't save the world. I had to first learn how to save myself and heal myself. And it was really this redirection. And I think so many of us, we project on the outside world, but we don't really look within ourselves. So my journey became about self healing. And that was really the first destination that I went on, which brought me to Ayurveda, the world's oldest health system. Now, in my process of studying Ayurveda, healing my body, I was living in India for two years, studying to become an Ayurveda practitioner and falling in love with this ancient healing science. I had this realization that maybe these health problems, all of these challenges happened to me for a reason, so I could share about Ayurveda, especially to millennial women who didn't have access to this type of wisdom and knowledge. So I decided I would write a book on Ayurveda. And that's when my second. My second redirection or layer that I needed to let go happened of my parents being like, wait, wait, wait, wait, you are going to write a book? Book? You don't even have a book deal. You're not a doctor. Like, who do you think you are? How are you going to make money doing this? Like, you're delusional. Like, this is. No, this is not okay. You cannot do this. You need to get a Normal, stable job.

And to really break it down, did they call you delusional?

Oh, a loser, failure, scum.

Wow. They said that verbatim.

Verbatim, yeah. And it got worse and worse and worse until my father disowned me. And he said, you are dead to me. I want nothing to do with you. I gave my whole life to try to you, a stable upbringing, and this is how you repay me? So to them, it was the ultimate betrayal that I am doing against them to be in India and studying this thing that they don't. They think is a pseudoscience. They don't even understand what I'm doing. And it was their deep fear of me making the wrong choice. That they were saying these things not to hurt me, but because they thought that maybe this would cause me to change my mind. Maybe if I were just firm enough with her. We say these things, then she'll wake up out of this hippie fantasy that she's having that she has this purpose. No, no, no. You don't have a purpose. Everyone hates their job, who you think you are. So this was a really tough time in my life because I didn't even know if it was true. Like, I didn't have any evidence that I have a purpose. I didn't have any evidence I would quote, unquote, make it. I didn't even know what the path looked like. So shouldn't I just follow the very people who raised me? Who are the people who I have been brought up to make happy as children were taught to get that parent stamp of approval? Or is this deeper desire in my soul that is so curious and yearning to take this different career path of writing a book. Is this here for a reason? And it wasn't an instant, like, that's it. It was a dance. Sometimes I would be like, you know what? It's too selfish for me to live my purpose. I don't want to ruin their lives. I don't want to cause so much pain and suffering for them. So I'll just do this as a hobby and become a real estate agent or something. And that'll give me enough time to just, like, read Ayurveda on the side. And then other times, like seeing people living their dharma and living their purpose and knowing that the biggest regret that I would live with is to not give this a try. And I think for me, I had to get to that level of being disowned by my own family because it required me to become free. Because in that moment, I realized that I was Always living for their approval, even though it was this unconscious way. And here I am now dead to them. So I have no one to live for but myself.

Wow, that's incredible. What is your relationship with them now?

So it was a journey. It wasn't like, oh, great, now you got a book deal. Like, we're totally all for it. Like, it was. It was still a journey because they didn't understand who I was becoming. And I think that sometimes when you know a child or even a partner of yours is changing in a way that you don't know them, you're trying to hold on to what you want them to be. So it was almost like this, getting to know your child for the first time, which is really an everyday process because we're always changing. So it was a journey. However, in writing discover your Dharma, I shared this story publicly for the first time, and I had so much fear around sharing it. I'm like, sometimes I would write it and I'd be like, you know what? I'm just going to take this out. It's not worth rocking the boat. I don't even know how many years they have left. I don't want to go another two years of not speaking to them. Let me just take this out. And then other times thinking, how can I even talk about discovering your dharma if I don't fully share my own story? And it's tough because your story is one thing to share, but when your story is tied with other people who don't want their story to be shared. So me writing the book was, I think, kind of like the final healing that needed to happen around the situation. Because when you, you know, you write about something, you have to see it from all of these different angles. From my parents angle, from sources angle, from all these different angles. And then knowing that they're going to read it and their family and friends and all the people that they care about are going to read it while staying true to myself. So when the book was coming out, I, like, wanted to talk to them about it, but also I didn't want to ask them for permission because knew they would say no. So finally, when it was, like, about to come out, I was like, here's the book. And they were not reading it. I was, like, trying to wanting them to read it so they would, like, see. And then I just had to tell them what's in it. And they were upset. You know, they were upset. Why is this in here? Like, why don't you talk about all the times we sent you to Summer camp. I'm appreciative of it, you know, but, you know, parents always want. It's like, I think especially that generation, shadow work is not really a thing that people talk about. You don't talk about the hard times. Like, you only talk about the good things happening. So they're like, why are you, why are you so negative? You always focus on the negative versus like, for us we see it's in those. I'm like, I'm the most grateful I have everything you've ever done for me for not believing in me in those times because it caused me to believe in myself. So now they are proud of me and share the book and have come around it. But it was, you know, a seven year journey for that to happen.

Wow, that's wild. I mean, because when you share the story, right, it sounds so inspiring, but when you're actually in that moment, it's not, it's easier said than done, right? And like, when you talk about your situation as far as, you know, coming from two immigrant parents and like, it's so like that pressure, I mean, for them, right, it's the feeling of being safe and all the things, their own fear or whatever. But how did you. And you said it took them disowning you to feel free. That's very powerful. But even at that point, it's still like you still have to make the decisions. And was it just what you said of like, you can't imagine not doing it and like being at the end of life? Is that the main thing or what else was just like that catalyst to make you actually keep going foot after, like step after step?

Well, one of the things that really was eye opening for me is, you know, sometimes we take advice from people, but then we really look at their lives and I'm like, wait, would I even want to be living like my parents are now? They definitely are not living their purpose. Like, I'm so grateful for everything that they've done for me. But you know, my dad is miserable and is mad at the news and is mad at what's happening in the media and is in victimhood so often. So do you. Would I want to take my life advice from someone who is embodying in this way, even though he has, he for sure has a Dharma and this greater purpose, but that's not really what's on his mind. So having that first realization of like, am I taking advice from people who I would want to live a life similar to. And it was really helpful for me because at this Time from India, I bought a one way ticket to Bali. And in Bali was the first time I saw people who were like ecstatic dance facilitators and like tantric life coaches and like all of these different things that I was. I would ask everyone, I'm like, do your parents know you're here? Like, are they okay with you being here? Like what do they think? Like, because it was so mind boggling for me, I had never seen anyone taking these completely alternative paths that they were just creating. It wasn't even a job to apply for. So when I really tuned into it and all of them were saying the same thing, like, you can't hold yourself back to try to make your parents happy because you're never going to make them happy. You're keep going to try to limbo this way, a limbo that way, and they're still going to find something that's wrong. So when I saw these people, they may not have had all of the money in the world, but they definitely were proud of the existences that they were living. And they were all pointing me in that same direction. That was helpful for me to see. You know, maybe there is some truth to this.

And what about. So referencing past life stuff. Well, actually before we get to that, were you, did you feel different as like a kid growing up?

Yeah, so I was definitely extremely psychic as a kid. You know, as a child I grew up in Boston, you know, by Salem, Massachusetts, which is where the Salem witch trials happened. And since I was a kid, I was obsessed with, with Salem and the witch trials and witchcraft and like all things, you know, Wicca. And I started to go like on the weekends and get spell books and I would like do all the witchy things and they have these three other girls and we would go to the four directions and like literally like do all of these. But we were, we were good witches, but the other kids thought we were crazy. You know, it was, we were like 10 years old. And I actually experienced, I was walking on a hill during recess and this, these group of kids in my class, they were like, burn the witch at the stake. Burn the witch at the stake. And this boy threw me down the hill and he had on one of those casts that you can walk in those like metal casts. So he threw me down the hill, but he came tumbling after me. His cast hit my head and gave me a concussion. So I became unconscious and rolled all the way down this hill. And I remember waking up and just hearing them laughing and I just was alone at the bottom of this hill. And I knew I just had to get myself up and walk to the principal's office and just go. And it's crazy because the teachers after that happened, they were like, well, you know, Sahara scaring the other kids so, you know, she needs to be separated from those girls and they're up to no good. And we were the ones wrong, right? And in that moment I realized it's not safe for me to be a witch. It's not safe for me to be magical and mystical. And that really took away a lot of my powers. I would see so many more things before that happened, but I think I just, you know, had to relive essentially being burnt at the stake in that way. And it made me close up. And it wasn't until practicing yoga that that became a new avenue to spirituality to me. But I think the reason, you know, I had many, many, many past lives in, you know, obviously ayurveda and yogic sciences, but it felt like the safer way because it was like a science and like a body practice and discipline. But it's really all bringing us back to the same source.

Yeah, that's fascinating. What's like the latest story or belief you've uncovered? Because when you talk about like all these things, whether it's, you know, a past life or from this childhood, I mean, because, yeah, I'm always remembering, right? Like, I'm always just like, holy hell, you know, just like, oh my gosh, what's the latest thing if you feel comfortable or like whatever you want to share about, like the latest. Because you share all these, like all these are amazing stories. So after you share this, I'd love to hear what has your practice been like to uncover them and then to whatever you want to call rewire, remember, reframe. We can use remember though, because that's our lingo.

So what I have been uncovering in my current life is toxic productivity. You know, we talk so much about toxic positivity and I feel like the next thing is this toxic productivity because of quarantine. So many of us, we went to whatever our trauma responses are. For some people it's denial and for some people it's being hyper productive and like working all the time and like, and I went that direction probably, you know, connected to the same parental approval, perfectionism strains. Also, I have seven planets in Capricorn, guys. So, you know, I was actually going.

To say when you posted about, we're actually pretty similar because I'm a projector and have tons of Capricorn and Sagittarius, too, but keep going.

I love that. Yes. So. So for me, it's really been looking at my relationship with this toxic productivity that, like, what else could I do and get more done? And, like, every time there's a free moment in my schedule, like, let me find more things to do and just to sit into that receiving state and trusting that I am being guided without me having to do and control. And I think that so many of us, especially entrepreneurs, we have the story that if I don't do it or if I'm not in control of it, it will go wrong. So it's really hard for us to let go because we have all of this proof. Look, I try to let go. I try to trust. This one time it didn't work, so now I can't do it. So, you know, and I've really been exploring a lot about human design, actually, like, going super deep into the different gates and channels and incarnation cross and all these different layers, which I absolutely love. And, you know, as a projector, which we both are, it's so important for us to rest and to be in that horizontal state. And we are meant to be paid for what we see, not what we do. So I'm like, sara, get into your projector ness. Like, no more than three hours a day of work. But my conditioning is like, oh, no. Well, you got to show your team that you're working so hard or, like, you got to keep going. So it's crazy that it's hard to not do, but for me, it's the hardest thing.

So I love that. Yeah. So obviously, I'm very similar, and I feel like that's now just really starting to come online. How I mentioned the retreat earlier. I kept like. I'm like, I'm only going to do things that are fun and easy. I'm only going to do things that are fun and easy. I have so many ideas. I'm sure you do as well. That I'm like, oh, my God. And it's so uncomfortable to not, like, try and, like, create it all the time. But I drop in, you know, like, is this just for me or is this for everyone? You know? So I was like, I'm only gonna do something that's fun and easy. And I had some resistance to doing the retreat. Cause I'm like, I don't want to do, you know, like, 30 calls to sign up 15, 16 people. I was like, this is going to be as easy as possible. So it's two days in, like, a third of the Way signed up. And, like, I haven't talked to one person. You know, it's just been through Instagram and, like, application things. And so that's starting to come online. But there's this cool metaphor I like about projectors with mentor I worked with last year. She said projectors are like spiders. Have you heard this? So which one I first heard spiders. I'm like, what? But you're like, what? Yeah, but so it's, if you think about it, project, like how most animals. Like a lion, right? Probably like a manifesting generator or a generator literally goes out and gets the thing and brings it back. What we do is we literally build and create this beautiful web, and then we literally just go back and sit and wait, and then other people will see that, right? And that's when, quote, unquote, whether it's the money or whatever it may be, is like, we are creating, we are observing. We are taking care of ourselves. We're not necessarily quote, unquote, hunting, per se and going out there and doing. But we build this beautiful magic thing and let people come to us.

I so resonate with that. And it's tough living in a world that's 70% generators, manifesting generators, because we're like, well, that person, like, got what they wanted and just went for it. And. And then it's also what I struggle with too, is I'm like, well, what about the time that I reached out to that person and ended up working? I didn't wait for the INV meditation. So it's definitely tough. And, you know, nothing is literal, nothing is 100%.

It's all nuanced.

But I do feel like we are opening up into this new way of being, of have, like, in the world, the new paradigm that we are creating. And I believe that many of us will be completely living in it in this lifetime. I believe communities are being built that we will. There's going to be many, many different dimensions happening on this planet, right? But when you're fully in alignment with your dharma and everyone around you is in full line with your Dharma, you don't need to do all of these different things that are not your dharma anymore. In fact, you realize the opportunity cost of that, and you also realize it's getting in the way of someone else living their dharma. So, for example, if I'm like, let me, like, go in the back of my website and, like, change up all these things and like, the. The funnel and this and that, like, there's actually someone who, who loves doing that, who I am preventing them from being in their unique zone of genius. So who am I to think that I should be doing that? Maybe at that moment of time, Source had a download for me that I would have missed because I would have been too frustrated trying to make this thing happen that is not in alignment with my dharma. So, you know, I think at the beginning of our journeys, especially in an entrepreneurial journey, you do kind of have to do these things that you might not want to do, but you're excited about doing it. You know, like, when I first started my website, I was excited to learn how to SEO and do the web design and do this and do that, because I was like, there was momentum going there. But then you reach this point that you continue to refine and refine and like, what. What are the things that are coming on the rocket ship and what are the things that are just baggage at this point? And the further along that rocket goes, the higher layers, the higher dimensions, you start to really fine tune every ounce that you're holding onto and you're like, oh, if that even feels a little bit off, it is holding me back from my true dharma and from being of service to humanity.

Ooh, I love that too. Yeah, I resonate hard with all of this.

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There's one thing that I've really liked and that I've been working on is literally like my. My frequency is the formula because I resonate with you of, like, all this one time, you know, or like, many times I've hustled and it's worked. Right. And so I love how you talk about the nuance. And it's not forever and always. It's if, when, maybe all the time. Definitely probably not, or never, depending on where you are. But yeah, like, literally, like, I've seen just crazy things happen just from. Like, it's crazy because you mentioned earlier in the conversation about. Yeah. That universe source or what. Like, we don't know better than that. And so when I work on my frequency, like, my being is the thing. Like, my creations speak for themselves. Like, I literally. Do you have any, like, 5G or like, blocker, like technology that, like, blocks things or, like, sends out frequency?

I have, like, shungite all over.

Okay. So. So I have like this thing that, like, it restructures water, does a whole bunch of stuff.

But so like those triangle things almost.

This one is like oval.

Okay. I also have this like, Soma Vedic.

Oh, I have this. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Soma Vedic.

Okay, okay, yeah, I got that.

I could have just said the brand name. So I have the Soma Vedic. And that's what I picture myself as, is like I am like, like affecting as I go because, like, I can't see everything that's happening. Some people can, you know, but to me, I just. I'm like, I'm literally like, affecting things. And it's crazy. I've just seen so much evidence in my life now of literally me not doing things. And I just think or feel, mostly feel. To me, it's almost the same now, and things just, like, appear. Like yesterday I was like, three people asked about something. I was like, okay, I guess I need to do that event or like, this product. Something that I had the idea with. So it's just interesting to see how those come through. I'm curious about your past life stuff. Do you know how many lives you've lived?

You know, the way that I see past lives is. Yeah, like. Like they're not even in the past. It's all simultaneously happening in the now. And our. Our human brain loves to be like, past, present, future. Like, how many? Like, where were they? Like, was I the princess of Egypt? Like, you know, have these amazing stories, and for me, the ultimate way that I have actually channeled past lives. And I've done, like, quantum hypnosis, healing technique, and past life conferences and all sorts of things, but it's actually just been from Intuitively feeling like, what do I resonate with? What are the historical time periods? What are the languages, cultures? What is the information that channels through me? So my main Claire is claircognizance of just a knowing. And for people who don't know, Claire is like your intuitive abilities. Clairvoyant is seeing, clairaudient is hearing, clairsentient is feeling, clair cognizance is knowing. So for me, for example, when I was, you know, writing my, especially my book Idiot's Guide to Ayurveda, which was that first one that got published that Deepak Chopra wrote the first forward to, I would just look out the window and just type and like specific information was coming through. Gunas sub gunas koshers. I can't make this shit up. It's a science, you know. So this was completely past life knowledge that was coming back to me. And I had this like remembrance. And for me, the remembrance, it feels like vape. It feels. Sometimes I'll see glimpses of it in a dream. Like for example, this one I was later shown in a dream. I was flying over ancient India and I saw the Sarasvati river, which is a river that has been dried up for the past couple thousand of years. So again, I couldn't have known this. And it showed me this is where your soul is from and it's actually where the Vedas were written. It's actually where my ancestors are from even in this human life. So in that lifetime, I was one of the Rishis that was originally channeling Ayurveda. Ayurveda is, you know, just like Yoga tantra. These are all channels, texts. Like no one invented it, they're just tapping into it and they're, they're scribing it. So in that lifetime I was one of the Rishis channeling this Ayurvedic text. But the other Rishis, they wanted to combine it with religion. They wanted to use it as a form of like a religious and a form of control. And it was very patriarchal. So I said, I will come back in another life as a woman and bring Ayurveda to the people.

Oh, that's cool.

And that is why, you know, the very first like major Dharmic lesson that I had to go through were my health problems to redirect me in that direction. And then all of the past life information began coming through. So it was really like relearning a language that I once knew. And then, you know, as soon as I wrote that book and the next book on Ayurveda. I could feel that I was done with that. And that's the other thing. Sometimes past lives, you have specific soul contracts with them. You're meant to be channeling that information for a period of time, but it's just like a faucet sometimes. Then it just turns off and you're like. And then it feels like, I don't really want to be doing this. It feels heavy. It feels stuck. Like I feel like I'm repeating myself. And, you know, some people are, like, fully operating from one frequency that they are channeling their whole lives. Whereas for others, it's like different soul contracts that really shift throughout our lives. And it really, I mean, just depends on your unique karma. But I could feel that for me, just talking about Ayurveda in terms of, like, health and nutrition and like, like meditations, the way that it's traditionally being taught, I was done with that. And it was to take these concepts now to bring Ayurveda into Dharma and other areas of being. So that's obviously a major past life of mine. And then also Lemuria. I don't know how much you guys go into different, but Lemuria is the most ancient civilization on Earth that. I mean, our human mind can't really even put into. Into years. But this is like. I mean, they say between like 2 million years ago to 200,000 thousand years ago was the time of Lemuria, also called Mu. So this is the ancient civilization that is modern day Polynesian islands, I mean, kind of like all of the Pacific. And really the frequency of it is based on the heart. It's based off of connecting with our land and our. Our tribes and our Earth. And it was a very feminine frequency. So the way that I remembered this life was I was actually looking at this oracle card deck, and there was a Lemuria card. And I just stared at this picture for, I kid you not, two hours. I was like, I know this place. Like, this is my home. Like the waterfalls and, like, the rich land and the turquoise waters. And I always have this, like, when I think of, like, what is my dream in this lifetime? It's to be in the jungle dancing with, like, swimming pools. And we're, like, drumming and just, like, fully in our bodies. And I just have this, like, yearning to be back and in this place. And that's really the Lemurian frequency. And long story short, I got into this situation with this other fellow Lemurian sister that we had to relive the sinking of Lemuria that she was ready to teleport to Atlantis. Because when Lemuria was, it was slowly sinking. And then some people decided to teleport to Atlantis, which was like the new civilization coming up based off of science. It was a lot more masculine and rational. And it's like modern day Ibiza, Greece, like that area. And we both had the exact same dream of this happening on the same night. But. And this was also while like all of the George Floyd stuff was happening last year. And there was like some stuff happening with her and I actually about that of like me being super activist and like this and like her being just taking a different stance on it. And in that dream that we both had, she was teleporting to Atlantis and she was like, come, Lemuria is sinking. We got to get out of there. And I was like, no, I got to help the people. I am not leaving. And I ended up dying in that lifetime. And it was. I was replaying it because I was. I mean I was. I'm an activist. So I was like just so. So all in that I was like also hurting myself by doing that, by letting go of everything else in my life. So oftentimes our past lives, the lessons from them can replay in this lifetime for a higher perspective and to see are we going to loop into that same karma again or have we fully completed that cycle and have moved on to greater lessons. Now I don't take the same stance as Buddhis per se that like you have X number of lives and then you're done as a human. You did your job, now you're just a soul and you're like out of the suffering of being a human. Because I see that as a really masculine way of looking at it that like being a human sucks. Being in a body. Like I just need to get out of here and like just like be in non dualism again. And there is a beauty in stillness and nothingness. But I also think that we are here to bring heaven to earth. It's not about just like doing our karma and getting out of here. It's about the very things that we are seeking. How can we bring that into this dimension? Mention at least that's what I feel like my lifetime is really about embodying.

Dang, I love that. So you touched on so much without me even asking about it. Which I love because I was going to ask about karma or yeah, I was going to ask about karma. And you touched on how it has influenced you. Right. Because how back to the Egyptian days of how you had to get sick to learn to bring that in. And why I wanted to talk about that is how important it is for our purpose and for our dharma, like, in this current lifetime, in this present moment, in this now on earth that we are. And I'm curious, like, for you as an activist and then also, like, looking at someone when you mentioned your parents and there's so many other people, you know, living in victimhood. And why I'm bringing this up is, like, how. I'm curious to hear your perspective on how past lives influence that and how karma influences that and how that balances out with like. Like activism. And I'm even curious, like, how your activism or any other ism has been redefined for you as you've gone more and more down this path.

Yeah, I love that. Well, I think the 3D understanding of activism is there's something wrong with the world, and I am going to fix that thing. Yes, I was totally in that. And there are so many things wrong with the world. There's genocides happening, and there's sex trafficking, and there's like, all these horrible things that are. That are real. And then we could take that totally other approach of everything is perfect as it is, so let me just be. And it will resolve itself. It's playing out its own karma. But that also doesn't sit right with me because we have free will. We have the ability to create change. So, like, we are the gods and goddesses that we have been waiting for. So we wouldn't have been given the ability to create solutions to these problems if we're not supposed to do it. So I think that we see some people that are only caught in the 3D, in the doing. And then some people, when you learn about spirituality, you have purely caught in the being and the, you know, the spiritual bypass and all of that. And. And it's a dance. And I think every person's relationship with activism is going to be different. For some people, it's going to be quite literal activism. For some people, it's more of the frequency. I know some people who. I genuinely believe their highest activism would be to remain in meditation, to be holding that grid and that light frequency, because it's help so many people that way, even though they're never even communicating with people. And like, every time they're like, I feel like I'm not doing enough. I'm like, please, like, keep holding that grid. Because we need, like, Matt Kahn, for example, like, people like that. We need people doing that. But then we also need people like Marianne Williamson who are like, okay, I'm going to run for president and, like, raise awareness and, like, be in the pit of the fire. And different lifetimes are going to cause, you know, different things. So for me, it has been finding the point of my highest form of joy with my highest form of service. Service not as a sacrificial thing. Service not as a cause. No one else wants to do it. I guess I have to do it, you know, which is what I used to think that it would be. I was like, I'm going to be a human shield and stand in front of a bulldozer and, like, that's how I will save a village. I definitely never thought I would live this far, you know, because I always knew I was here to be of service. But how far could I be of service if then I'm gone, I'm gone that one time the bulldozer came over me. And I've also realized that teach a man to fish, feed him for a day, teach him. You guys know that phrase. But tell someone what to do. You may have solved that problem for a period of time, but raise their consciousness, and they will know what to do later on. Like, the fact that we have to be like, hey, guys, hating people because their skin color is different than you is wrong. Is like, duh. Like, of course. Like, the fact. The fact that. That someone can't understand that is like, this is a consciousness issue. And then we're gonna have to advocate for black lives and Asian lives and Middle Eastern lives and Latin American lives. We're gonna have to do this for the forever gay lives. This lives. Like, we need to raise consciousness so people understand that that person that you hate so much because they're so different than you is you. And that way, that's also going to trickle into how they relate to their environment. Their environment is you, that your children are you, and so many other things. So I realized that my highest way of being of service is to help raise consciousness, which I think a similar way. I think a lot of people listening to this podcast have found a similar way. But does that negate me from the responsibility to still continue to be of service to the people who will never listen to my podcast, who don't even have Internet or electricity? No. And I will continue to with my resources, you know, sponsor girls from sex trafficking in India and children who live in landfills in Cambodia, and all of these people who. Raising consciousness is probably not in this lifetime for them, unfortunately. But the fact that I can help means that it is my dharma to also help.

Damn, yo. That was a beautiful explanation and perspective because it's both. And back to the person who, you know, is, you know, literally meditating and holding that frequency in this lifetime. That's probably as of now, maybe later it'll change what they can do to provide the most impact and service. And I think we get caught up right in, like, the greater less than, because it goes back to, like, am I doing enough? Da, da, da, da. And our purpose or purposes change, you know, and adjust. So what are your thoughts or words of wisdom and feelings for, like, people who are thinking, am I doing enough?

So our purpose is going to shift, you know, guaranteed. Dharma is a mountain range. You know, the first summit. You've never climbed a mountain before. You don't even know what it's like. You don't even know if there is a summit. You don't have the right shoes. You don't have the tools. You. You don't have the stamina, and it feels really intense and scary. But you climb that first summit, you get the tools. You get the strength. But then you realize it's. It's a mountain range, and it continues to unfold and evolve. And that's why I think of the path more like a spiral than a linear sequence. Because if you think of a spiral, we're going to look at our childhood and our past lives and our purpose and our relationships and all of these things, and then, guess what? We're going to go back to them again and again and again and again. And it's going to continue to deepen and deepen for as long as we're. So as long as we're alive, you're going to continue to find more layers of your purpose. And to live your dharma is just to honor the expression of truth that you are at this moment. Because your truth can and will change as you are exposed to new sides of yourself and exposed to new elements of the world around you. Because nothing is ever the same. So to hold a peg in the ground and be like, well, this is my one purpose. Like, that's it. Like, I already branded myself like that, so I can't rebrand, like, you know, it's like. To not honor that is like being a lion trapped in a cage. It's to pretend that you don't have all of these other abilities and gifts that are waiting to evolve. So your purpose is going to change. There is, however, a red thread that connects them. So, you know, let's say your purpose for me, it Took me from, like, literal activism to healing, to dharma, to, like, embodiment. But really the threat of it is still the same same. You know, it still is. Is helping people in this unique way that only I can. Right. And that's really what your dharma is. For someone, it could be to bring beauty to the world. And they may be a graphic designer and then a wedding planner and then a florist, then an interior designer and then a hairstylist, but they've always been bringing beauty to the world. So it's to not be so attached to the physical manifestation of it, but rather to notice, well, what is the connectiveness between everything in which that I'm doing, and that's going to connect you to where you're going to go moving forward and to the question of, well, am I doing enough? You know, it's both. I think collectively we are not doing enough. And I think collectively we're obsessed with am I enough? Right? It's this feeling of I'm not enough. But then we take all of this energy into I'm not enough. I'm not enough. When you could have just, like, gave a $5 a month donation. And that's still more than the majority of what people are doing. So there's always more that I don't think the 99% of Americans, at least, are, like, at their cap of being of service. I don't think so. You know, we could volunteer. We could do more things. Like, we always have excuses, but how much time do we spend on social media? But this feeling of, am I enough? That is something that 99% of people are dealing with. And the solution is to go into the being of service. You know, Marianne Williamson says, sometimes you just need to put your tears on a shelf and go out there and help the world come home, cry again, and do it again. You know, and sometimes we get so caught up into, like, I need to have the perfect way of being of service, and not until I have all of the different facets of it, then can I go out and do it. But it's really in the being of service that you get the feedback, and then it shifts and it maneuvers and.

Yeah, I love that. Have you seen the movie Soul?

Yes.

Have you? Because I mean, that literally, right? Is about Dharma and purpose and how at the end, he. He. Spoiler alert. If no one's watched it, but how he essentially becomes, like, so, like, pigeonholed, right? Like, so obsessed that it becomes, like, when he actually does it, it doesn't taste as, like, sweet as he thought it would.

I love that movie so much. It's such a great one. I'm like, wow. Like, imagine if, you know, we watched that kind. Those kind of movies growing up. Instead of, like, Aladdin and Little Mermaid. Like, the girl doesn't even have a voice. We're like, she's my hero.

You know, that's actually a good point. I've never thought. She literally doesn't have a voice. And you were like, wow, men love.

You if you're silent.

Wow. I've never even thought about that one.

Yeah. So it's beautiful. And it really does show that consciousness is raising. And what I loved about that movie, it's like you being of service is also you just being in your state of flow. Like, him playing the saxophone is providing a gift for everyone that gets to experience the melodies that are coming through him. Like, when I see a street performer, like, doing their break dance and they're in that flow, like, that lifts me up and that has that ripple effect for how I show up with the barista and then how that barista feels when she goes home from work, and then how her boyfriend feels because of the relationship and how he treats his mom and how the mom's lifespan ends up right. Because that guy was breakdancing. So when we can realize that you shining your light is your highest way of being of service.

Dang. Yeah, I love that because. Yeah, we get caught up in. And speaking for myself when I say we is like, this thing is why I'm important. Or, like, quote unquote, helping people with overcome fear. This is why I'm important. Or, you know, but it's literally who I be. And that is like, the power literally going back to, like, the Soma Vedic thing. Like, that's what, like, it's changed so much for me. I'm just, like, literally just like, how I show up, like, the frequency, the consciousness. And, like, it's such a cool feeling. It's easier, it's more powerful. And just. Yeah. Just to touch on that note of literally, I just being in the flow of, like, playing that sax. Like, being in that. Just being it. Yes, he's doing something as well, but he's literally being that thing. And, like, that's the ripple.

Yes. I call this the sacred doing. And this is where you're so deep into your doing that you are being. And when you're also so deep into your being that you can't help but do so. I feel like there's this. This battle, like, kind of in the spiritual Community of, like, we're human beings, not human doings. Like, boycott all doing. You know, oh, my God, they're doing so much sheeple. Like, you know, and then, like, these other people that are like, be more productive. Get more done in your day. Like, hustle, hustle. And it's like this. You gotta choose a side of the coin. And that's just not true. It's. Your dharma is the expression of both. Because, you know, I have done many types of meditation trainings and this and that, and I would always, like, get mad at me. I'm like, I'm such a bad meditator. Like, why am I. I'm so bad at being, like, what's wrong with me? And, like, you know, it just became this other thing that I wasn't good enough. Another way to shame. Another way to not be enough. But when I am writing, when I am speaking, when I am dancing, like, I am naturally in a meditative state without any pressure or force. And that's really what meditation is all about. Like, there's this interesting conversation between Osho and Maharishima Hashiogi, and it was. It's this long debate that they were in, like, back in 1969. And what Osho was saying was, meditation cannot have a technique. Because as soon as there's a technique, it's not meditation. He's like, meditation is just being. He's like. But that doesn't require you sitting there and be like, okay, right now I'm going to just be. He's like, meditation can be. You're in nature, and you just become one with nature. You're singing and you just lose yourself with the song. It's the merging. And what Maharishi and his disciples were saying is, like, well, the American mind can't do that. Like, we need to set a time for ourselves and have a technique and a practice around it for us to create the container to get into that state, which I totally understand. It was this. Just this beautiful debate. And I can see both perspectives of, like, you know, in the perfect world, we would just be able to, like, you know, be by the waterfall and just enter that meditative state. But we're on our phones and, like, we need to set the time, otherwise we're not going to do it. But then why aren't we questioning why are cultures built like this?

Yes.

That it requires so much effort and force to just do the most basic thing of being.

I love this. This conversation is so nuanced. And that's. Love it. Will you repeat that sentence? Again, of, like, the beings. Was it your soul, sacred doing?

Yes. So the sacred doing is when you are so deep into your being that you can't help but do. And when you're so deep into your doing that you naturally are being.

I love that.

Yeah. Thank you. What is it for you? Like, what are your sacred doings?

Oh, yes. I love asking you a question. My sacred doing, doing. It's this, right? Like, technically, yeah, like, I'm doing something. And, like, you know, whether it's intuitive sessions with people, like, I am projector, right? So, like, I only want to do, like, two of those a day. But they are my favorite thing in the world. And so I have my kind of. What you mentioned before about how all these different purposes, you know, kind of build on each other about bringing beauty. My first quote, unquote, passion and purpose was a actually hip hop. And so, like, I remember, you know, performing for, like, hundreds and, like, thousands of people. That's what it was like. Like, performing was literally that. Like, so just, like, enthralling and same with, like, guiding meditations. It's that same thing of, like, I'm doing. Then I just be. Because it's. It's so flow and it's so fun. And, like, in those guiding sessions or remembering sessions, because it really is like, we're going to a place that we've both never been before. And so to me, I love that so much because it really is that performance and the yin and the yang and, like, we're both creating together. And so I love that so much. And I wanted to note, when you're talking about. I know people say lemuria or lemuria. I know people say whatever. But when you were talking about that, I just want to point out, like, your body totally, like, lit up.

I love me some lemuria. I can't wait to go back.

Yeah, I love that. Good question. And I was talking to someone yesterday at my apartment, and I imagine, you know, when you talk to people, like in Miami, just, you know, random. Not random people. It's, you know, when they ask you what you. What do you actually. When people ask you and you meet them for the first time and they're, quote, unquote, civilians, what do you. What do you tell them that you do or be?

I just say, I'm an author. They're like, so you write books? They're like, what kind? And I'm like, discover your Dharma. Like, what's a Dharma? I'm like, it's just. They don't get it. At all. Like, they probably think I'm like a children's book author or something. It's like, fine because we're really all imagining things. How about you?

Yeah, that's cool. So why I asked that is because, you know, I'll say a fear coach. And of course that sparks plenty of conversations. And then he was just talking about, you know, of course, how Wim Hof has made cold exposure so popular. And so he was watching this video of top five habits that successful CEOs do. And now like, they're doing breath work and like cold exposure. And so why that came to mind is because it's like the scheduling thing. It becomes so masculine and only doing. But again, it's both. And so just to comment on how it's. I love it, right? We love it because, like, we are raising consciousness and these amazing tools are getting, getting wider and greater. But at the same time, it's being. What's the right word to say? I won't say bastardized, but like misconstrued or like. Yeah, I just wanted to comment on that because that's just so interesting, like how I see that of just meditating or certain things. It's just like we turn them into what you said of more things to do and something that you're not doing good enough still.

Right. And I think it's. We will approach anything as that the consciousness and the mindset that we're in. So. And then it will naturally shift. The breath work will shift that, the cold, all of these things will shift it. So it's already going to change with you just doing it. But I know, you know, so many people, they're like, I need the perfect morning routine. Okay, I gotta wake up and journal for 10 minutes and then breath work for 10 minutes and then this and then that. And like they're doing all of these things are like driving around LA and they're like late and they're so nervous in their cars to like make it to the drip IV session. You know, it's like, maybe if you just, just like sat on a bench, you would be way more calm than what you think this drip IV will get you to. But I think it's just a natural level that we're in. I have these five stages of Dharma discovery. And the second one is that self improvement of like this obsession with improving ourselves. And it's very natural because when we realize, oh, maybe my mindset isn't at the highest level or my physical health or my focus, et cetera, it's very Natural to want to improve it. But then we reach a point that we realize, I am not a mind and body to improve, but rather I'm a soul to know.

Ooh, one more. One more time. That's a good quote.

I'm not a mind or body to improve, but rather I'm a soul to know. So instead of trying to fix ourselves, we shift our focus to getting to know ourselves. And then it becomes less about hacking and more about remembering.

Damn, that's so good. Yeah, this was. I mean, I knew this was going to be good, but this completely just like, woo.

I love it. Because I normally can't enter these realms of a typical podcast host. Normally it's like, you know, stage one Dharma, which is beautiful and great. But I enjoyed this conversation because I think a lot of people are craving, you know, I'm sure people listen to this podcast right now, are craving to go deeper and like, what does it really look like in practice for us, you know, at this point? And. And yeah, to like, open up that. That lid and show people we're always still learning and deepening. And it does get easier. Like, it gets so much easier too, with time.

Yeah. Will you talk about. Because that's even one thing. Going back to, you know, like, being projectors and hustling, like, hard work and everything. It does get easier. But that's one thing I keep questioning. For a long time. I've had this belief almost of, like, I felt bad for it being easy. So that was one of my stories.

Is, you know, it's not worthwhile if it's easy.

Yeah, like, and like, even, like, love my sister, you know, again, different dharmas, different whatever. But she used to say, like, everything comes so easy for Ben, you know, money, like, school, whatever. And so naturally. Right. I don't want her to feel less than or bad. So I'm like, okay, well, but I still want it to be easy. Like, I love that it comes easy.

Because you're in alignment with your dharma. You're living in the state of Korea, which is the effortless flow, because the universe is propelling you in the direction of your dharma. When obstacles show up for us, you know, it's often feedback to tell us where we're out of alignment. You know, it's like the word karma really is bounded action by the universe. So when we're experiencing those challenges, it's not out to get us. It's to show us where we're off and where the things that maybe we need to make a U turn and course correct. And move back on. But truly, when you're living your dharma, you do experience that flow and the synchronicities and the remembrance. But sometimes, to get to the path of least resistance, you first must follow the path that you are personally the most resistant to.

And I love that we've talked about that a lot of quite a few different examples of, like, it can start this way. It doesn't have to, but for a lot of us. Right. Like, that's how it starts. And then we can graduate from that.

Absolutely. Because if we didn't have those things, I mean, I think in the future, like, our kids and our kids. Kids will just be like, I'm just going to be an astronaut. And that's what's happening. And, like, that's it. Like, everyone's supporting them, and they just do it. And then, I mean, look at, like, Greta Thunberg. She is one of the world's youngest activists and making so much change in the environmental sphere. And she's just like, yeah, I'm 15 years old and I'm going to do it. Whereas, you know, she didn't have to do all of deconditioning and all of the stuff that a lot of other people had to do. So what could this world look like if instead of putting our focus into trying to heal and unveil and unlayer, we could just be like, yep, I'm just going to live my Dharma. And that's already happening because so many of us are doing. We're like the Indigo Generation, and we're making space for the rainbows. Just be like, yo, I'm a rainbow, boo. Shining my light.

I love that. And. But I've even be interested with, like, someone like Greta. Like, I'd love to have a conversation with her because there has to be. Doesn't have to be, but, like, from outside looking in, like, trauma and beliefs building even within that. Because she is like, that first. She's. She's 15 years old now.

Yeah. I mean, I can just like, feel. She definitely has that savior. I don't want to call it savior complex. I love what she's. What she's doing. And it's. It's amazing. And I. And I think that also her soul, like, because she has Asperger's syndrome, and. And it's. It's one of her greatest gifts, I think, because she's able to, like, detach herself from feeling hypersensitive in the way that, like, many young teenage girls would feel like being in a room of these, like, politicians and CEOs and these people like destroying the environment. And she's just like strong in that. Like, no, like, we need to stop this. Like, you guys need to grow up. I am not going to grow up on this planet that doesn't have resources. So I think that is her gift. But you know, every human and has stuff that they're working through. But I think that her soul definitely chose to make this her primary focus.

Yeah, right. Isn't that. And that's cool. I love how you talked about that, like that being her gift because it's so easy to not view it that way. Really though. And so many quote unquote bad things have happened and it is hard to say. Right. Because it goes even back to like the activism of like doing it, the importance of doing it, but also not doing it depending who you are. And even like just like karmic laws and stuff like that. That's something that I've always wondered about. You know, it's like universal law, like balancing itself out. What are your thoughts on that?

Like the greater universal karma of having duality, like equal amounts of good and.

Bad early, like cause and effect. Like if I was the oppressor in this life, I will be the oppressed or like kind of that thing.

Yeah. So I think it's a lot further out than we think. Like there is definitely some of that like instant cause and effect karma that happens of like you're a bitch to someone. Like you get a slap in the face, like it just happens. But then there's past life karma. I think all of us spiritual healers, teachers, etc. Probably did some really messed up shit in previous lifetimes that were like having to show up in this way for things that we have done. So I don't think any Anyone has like 100% like perfect in all lifetimes we learn that way. So I feel like the concept of karma also what I do love about Buddhism is like the merit that by doing good deeds, regardless of what our karma is, we create more positive merit, which is essentially like currency. Positive currency that allows us to live better lives. And you know, we have probably spent a lot of lifetime times doing this work and studying this work to even be where we are right now. We have collected a lot of merit to be here, but that doesn't mean our journey is done. Like I can also see, for example, I used to live in India. And in India, sometimes the concept of karma, just the modern caste system understanding of karma is like, well, that person's homeless, like they're just Going to be homeless in this lifetime. And I'm basically a prince, so I deserve this. And, like, that's not what it is. We're still collecting positive merit or negative karma by the choices that we're making right now, but I don't see the goal of it to ascend and be out of the perpetual wheel. I see. You know, I do think that we take space between lifetimes. We come in other forms. We may come in spirit guide form, ascended masters, you know, so many other things. But I don't think it's, like, sucks to be a human. The same way that often, like, a lot of, like, spirituality is like, ugh, like, I'm back on Earth. Shit, get me out of here. Like I said, think the purpose of us having these insights is so we could bridge them to humanity.

Yeah, I love that. Well, I mean, yeah, this is definitely incredible. Is there anything else on your heart that you feel called to share?

No. I mean, we traversed many different pathways.

On the spiral staircase we spiraled along.

Yes.

Well, Sahara, thank you so much just for being and doing. Because, yeah, this conversation was. Yeah, like, how you. Yeah. What you be and, like, your energy and how you show up, but also what you're doing and, like, on all the ways. Yeah. And, like, props for, like, showing up in, like, the ways that you have. Because, like, you said, of all the karma, all the things, whatever, past lives, like, we still have a choice. So thank you for making the choices to be here.

Well, thank you so much for having me. It was such a lovely and fun conversation. I really enjoyed it. And.

And, yeah, thanks for having me on.

You know it. And of course, we got to do the podcast things, you know, gotta plug the old book, gotta tell them the social media things.

Yeah. So listeners can connect with me on my website, IAMSaharrose.com I actually have a quiz for your Dharma archetype. So if you're curious to learning more about your Dharma, there are nine Dharma archetypes. So you could take that quiz. And it also has the link for my book discover your Dharma and all of my other resources there on my website. I am Sahara Rose, and my website is also. Or my Instagram. Instagram is also I am Sahara Rose.

And, well, I'll say. And you do have. You have fun. So, like, you do tiktoks and stuff. I am. Last year, that helped me become less serious. I've kind of stepped away from it. Then I've dipped my toe in it a little bit. But just so people know that you are a well rounded individual and you have fun with all of it too. But you're serious and not serious.

Yes, I'm always learning new TikTok dances, twerking. I'm a dj, so find me on Instagram as well because that's the thing too. It's like the spiritual journey is meant to be fun. That's really the whole point of this. We're meant to have a good time here. So sometimes we take ourselves so seriously. And I feel the same way. Like my inner entertainer archetype has gotten to come out a lot more this past year because of the TikToks and reels. So it's been a good time.

Love it. Well, thank you, thank you.

I absolutely loved being part of that conversation. It was such a juicy one. I love diving into these topics with people. So thank you you for listening. And if you want to dive into your dharma in a deeper way, I invite you to join me on my 21 day Dharma discovery journey. This will literally take you from feeling confused, overwhelmed, uncertain about your dharma to complete clarity in just 21 days. You can head over to my show notes or iamsaharrose.com Dharma discovery to begin your journey today. Thank you so much for tuning in and I'll see you on the next episode.

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