490: How To Step Into Your Greatest Level of Abundance as a Spiritual Person with Master Sri Akarshana

No one in my ancestry, no female has ever made money before. And because I have been able to step into that, I now, at this point in my life, can truly live my best reality. And that's why I think it's so important to not demonize money. Because ultimately money can provide us with freedom and choice. It does not equate to those things.

I think it's like everything in life.

Yeah.

And if we look at money, it's just that society is ingrained as money is beautiful and oh, and money doesn't grow on and oh, everything about it is negative. But if we really ask the question, we say, hey, are there some people in this world right now who maybe have a good amount of money who are doing good with that money? And the answer is yes. And is it true that if they didn't have the money, maybe they couldn't do the things they're doing? And the answer is yes. So what does that mean? It's neutral, just like everything.

Hi, it's Sahara Rose and welcome back to the Highest Self podcast, a place where we discuss what makes you your soul's highest evolvement. I have been on a journey for the past four months, traveling all around the world, reconnecting to different parts of my soul. And in this journey I found myself in Dubai, of all places, which really wasn't somewhere that I felt called to go before. But I ended up there and I was pleasantly surprised by the emerging spiritual community. And if you're new to the podcast, I am Persian, my family comes from Iran and I spent a lot of time in the Middle east growing up. But one of the difficulties of that is that in the Middle east, spirituality in, in this more modern way isn't a big part of the culture. It was a big part of the ancient culture, you know, ancient Zoroastrian roots and, you know, even Sufism. However, today we are seeing a massive resurgence in spirituality in the Middle East. So I was really pleasantly surprised in Dubai finding that there spiritual centers and wellness centers and people even sitting with different forms of ceremony. And it was so beautiful and refreshing to see a revival of these ancient age old wisdom in the very lands that many of them came from.

So when I was in Dubai, I.

Put on my Instagram, my little story thing in Dubai and this beautiful soul reached out to me, Master Sri Akarshna, who I had come across his YouTube videos before and we decided to meet up and we went for a walk on the beach and we instantly just like dropped it and went straight to the heart of it sharing the depths of our soul and really just connecting and learning more about each other's journeys.

So I knew I wanted to have.

Him on the podcast.

He had me on his YouTube channel.

And it was just such a beautiful conversation and today you're going to hear it. So we really speak about this unique shift that we are in right now as spiritual people of no longer wanting to be the renunciate that gives up all material possessions and all belongings and has no clothes and moves to the mountains and sits in their cave alone, away from distractions forever.

That is a path.

And many of us grew up thinking, oh, a spiritual person is a monk and renounciate. And that's the path if you want to be spiritual, if you want to be enlightened. But a lot of us now, we're, we're not wanting to be separate from the world. We enjoy beauty, we enjoy luxury, we enjoy organic foods, traveling, giving back, giving gifts, giving money to charity.

So how do we have that balance.

Between our desire to be part of the world, which does require monetary exchange, with being highly spiritual people that are connected to this universal source consciousness that is far beyond us? And he shares in the episode his own personal journey of being on both extremes, you know, of going down the monk path, then also going down a very material path and how he has been able to see that spirituality or with money and abundance are actually not two separate things, but are very interrelated.

So this is a really beautiful conversation.

That we got to do in person in Dubai. So if you have YouTube or Spotify, be sure to watch the video to drop in with us even further.

So without further ado, let's welcome Master.

Sri Akarsha to the Highest Self podcast. And before we dive into this episode, have you ever noticed that you are that person that people come to whenever.

They have a problem, Maybe at a part party. You end up in this really deep.

One on one conversation with someone and they're pouring their heart out to you. And you genuinely love helping people. You have such wisdom that you want to share, but you're not really sure how to turn that into a career. Well, if I'm speaking to your soul.

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Now, without further ado, let's get into this episode. Welcome Master Sri Akarshna to the Highest Self podcast. It's so great to have you here.

Thank you for having me.

The first question I would love to ask you is, what makes you your.

Highest self, being the strong vessel to allow that infinite collective intelligence to flow through me and manifest through me?

So we're here in Dubai right now in your beautiful studio, and we've been having amazing conversations the past few days and many beautiful synchronicities, and you shared with me a bit about your story, and it's so inspirational because a lot of people may be in various stages of your story and having those different awarenesses.

So can you please share with us.

What began your spiritual journey and what that looked like for you?

I think what began my spiritual journey didn't seem like a spiritual journey at that time. Now when I connect the dots, I look back at it, I say it's spiritual journey. But I think one of the biggest moments was growing up. My dad always told me that, you know, you got to make money and you'll be successful. I was not the academic type, so I had to go to work in burger vans, burgers, and then eventually start my own business. And I was only.

Where did you grow up?

I grew up in the uk. Yeah. And then so I started my first business in the restaurant industry and I was around 20 years old. I took on a lot of debt, but it went well. And when I got to like 24, 25, I would say I was financially free. I could buy whatever supercars or all the things that people dream of. And I was happy for a while. And then the question came in, is this it? Why are we all here? And I didn't know, that would take me into a part where I suddenly fall into depression. So I think that was one of my biggest moments because I realized that life is not just about materials or money or, you know, there's something beyond that. So I think that started the inquiry.

Yeah, it's beautiful because we never decide to go on a spiritual journey. For the most part, it's through our darkest times, you know, and really asking yourself, why am I here? What is the point of all this? I have the money, I have the success, and what do I want next? So what did you start to do after that?

It's quite a funny story because I had. In my restaurant, it was. I remember it was Valentine's Day. We had a performer. She played this Chinese instrument called the gu zheng. And after her performance, she really quickly rushed off, and I said, whoa, you need to leave already? She said, yeah, I need to pack my bags. I've got a plane to catch. And I was like, okay, where are you going? Just normal questions. And then she said, I'm going to Kenya. And I said, what are you going there for? And then she showed me a picture of her and some orphan children. And then she said, oh, I'm going to help them. And she said, you want to come? And I was like, yeah, whatever. I said, no, not really. So I said, no, it's okay. You enjoy, right? And I said, safe trip. But that was during a time where I would get into my sports car every day and literally say to whoever it was up there, please take me away. Like, that's where I was. I was like, I couldn't find any meaning in life. I thought I was done. I was supposed to be successful, but I'm not happy, and I didn't know why. And so when, after that whole encounter, I remember that night, I went out drinking with my friends. I was partying a lot because I was lost. I was confused. And I told my friends, I said, this girl called Lisa asked me to go to Kenya with her. Could you imagine? They said, don't go. And I said, why? They said, it's really dangerous out there. I heard, dangerous. And I said, okay. And obviously, I was a little bit like that at the time. And then I called Lisa up in the middle of the night, half not there. And I said, when are you flying? I said, I'm coming with you. Can you imagine? My idea was, if I go out there and something dangerous happens, great, I'm done. I didn't have the guts to do it myself. And so I booked the ticket the next day, we fly out with this person I barely know, and I'm scared all the way because I've never been anywhere in Africa before. And I'm just looking around thinking, oh, they're going to stab me. They're going to kill me. They're going to, you know, imagine I'm being scared at the same time as I'm wanting to go there, you know, and good job. I wasn't so good at manifestation back then, otherwise I probably won't be here right now. But then the first day, we went into the forest areas, into the hills, and she took me to the first orphanage. I seen the kids playing there, kicking this old bottle around and laughing, cheering. And in the far distance, I seen this lady. Her name's Betty, and she was cheering and with the biggest and most beautiful smile I've ever seen in my life. And that was my first day, the first scene I witnessed. And I burst into tears because I was questioning, why are they so happy? Everybody says I've got everything, but why do I not want to be here? But they have everything. I don't get it. So all these thoughts started coming in my head, and that's where I took a complete 180 turn in my life. And I started to promote and started to live the life of giving is living. And so that's when I started the charity, and I built the orphanage and built the school, and I started giving, giving, giving. And I said, this is life. So I think that was one big realization, big paradigm shift.

That is so beautiful. And I so agree with you that ultimately the spiritual journey is for us to be of service to something greater than us. And I see often we think of spirituality of just, like, how do I improve and how do I get more and more? That's not why we're here. It's not so we can, like, take, take, take, but it's so we can take and learn and grow and then be able to share that and be the vessel. And it's in that reciprocal nature with the universe that we really grow and we open ourselves up for such greater things. And often, too, when we're stuck in depression, anxiety, even suicidal ideation, sometimes it's helpful to realize how blessed we really are. And it might sound corny, or even someone might say, that's toxic, positive, but it's the truth. Like, it is the truth that if you're right now listening to a podcast, like, you are extremely blessed to even have the resources and the time to be able to do so. And, yeah, for Me, the same thing of the times that I have been able to, you know, I was in Zimbabwe doing volunteer work there. And the times that I've been able to be on the grounds helping people that I normally would have never had access to. Those are the pinnacles of my soul's experience.

But I think one of the interesting things back then was because I went complete 180 in saying life is not about money. It's not about materials detach from all of that. It's about being here in the mountains, helping their children, helping whoever you can help. And the interesting thing happened shortly after that, A few years after I realized that my finances were dropping and I was just contributing, contributing, helping everybody. And then it came to one point where my team back in UK was saying, hey, you can't keep going out there and keep giving away this money and helping us because you can't help the whole of Kenya. That's what they were saying to me. That really shifted it back. It brought it back. It kind of grounded that idea of, okay, just give, give, give, and then you fulfill your highest purpose. Because we also say that first of all, you can't give what you don't have. You have to fill your cup to be able to have that capacity. So when that was happening, imagine I would go into another phase of depression where I'd be sat there one day thinking, okay, I can't help that anymore, I need to stop this because if I continue, I'm going to run out of money. There was a lady called Mary. I remember she came with her nine month old dying baby and she came to me for help. But every single day, imagine I'm getting so many requests while I'm out in Kenya for help. And I knew something had to stop. So in that moment I said, mary, I don't think I can help. And she started crying. She said, please help, please help. I said, I don't think I can help. And she said, please, please, please, please assist. And I said, maybe we can try and find some help in the village or something, but I don't think I can help anymore. And I remember going back into, we have this mud hut and I remember going back into the hut and this was during rain season and in the middle of the night I hear this loud scream, loud cry. I didn't know she was still out there. So when I stood outside the hut and I seen her there crying her eyes out, the baby had died right in front of me. And I think it was my first time experiencing anything like that. But the problem was I started taking all that responsibility. That was me. I said I could have done something. I could have. But I didn't. I said no. And then a whole different conversation started gathering in my head, saying, who are you? You think you're some sort of hero? You think you can change the world? You say, giving is living. Where did you give there? How did you help? And so imagine I go into this whole new phase of, okay, I thought life was about just service and helping people. And it's not about material. It's not about the money world or anything. And I would go back to UK and I would fall into this next stage, next part of my journey of depression, where I'm questioning everything in my life. What is the purpose? Why am I here? So I'd go back to that purpose question again. And then only later on slowly, slowly coming to acceptance that, hey, yes, we're spiritual beings, and yes, we can fulfill something that's greater than us, but we do live in a physical world. We are mattering. And if we become more abundant in this physical world, then we also have more to give and more to fulfill. That what you would refer to as dharma. And so that whole epiphany came where I said, hey, you know what? Actually, it's the balance of two, you know? So I think that was a very important part as well.

It reminds me of this show and book called Shantaram. Have you heard of it?

No.

I really recommend it. And it's a true story of this Australian convict who escapes from jail and ends up in India living in the slums. And as he's in the slums because he was an ambulance EMT driver, they start to call him the doctor, and they're going to him for all their health problems. And he's realizing there's all these preventable diseases that these people from the slums are dying from. So he feels extremely responsible of, like, I need to help all the people in the slums. But the thing is, when he's not a doctor, too, he doesn't have resources. So he begins to sell drugs to the tourists and uses that money that he gets from selling drugs to buy medical supplies for the people in the slums. And it's this question of, like, what is right or wrong, you know, and this, like, morality that we're in. And the hard part for him as well is, like, eventually he has to leave. But now these people are dependent on him. They're expecting him, and he knows if he leaves, they have no one else. And I Think it takes us to the greater question of how can we create more empowered communities and how can we create more healers in communities and opportunities for conscious social entrepreneurship and things like that. So it doesn't need to be a model that someone from an outside country comes into the country with resources, but rather being able to create communities that are able to support themselves. The ancient ways that we have for thousands of years. It's just our colonialist society has made us, you know, let go and become so attached to a corporation or an NGO or something like that, helping. So I know you still have. Now, can you tell us about a little bit about this orphanage in Kenya and what you're up to with that?

Yeah. So we're going out there again, actually flying tomorrow morning. So I've been going out there for the past 11, 12 years, and we take some volunteers every year just because it really completely changed my life. And I like people to witness that, you know, get some perspective and learn from the kids. We always say we give to the kids out there, but actually they give us so much. I'm sure you and your experience had similar experience. You get so much joy from it, you get so much healing from it, so much love from it. So we have an orphanage, we have a school, a few hundred kids, and our project now is more focused on trying to get it to sustainability. What you were speaking about before, social entrepreneurship, a lot of people always ask me to say, why don't you do something in India? Why don't you do something here? Why don't you do something in uk? I said, well, I can, but I can keep giving money here, giving money there, giving money here. But if we don't create something sustainable and we haven't got the foundation for that, there's not really. We're not really doing this change. It's not going to last. So we've been focusing on it. It's been a tough ride because obviously a whole different culture with corruption and all the things that happen that come with it. But it's been a beautiful ride. It's been a very fulfilling ride.

Well, I definitely want to come visit one day next time.

You're coming?

Yes, absolutely.

Yeah.

You told me. I was like, maybe I should just go tomorrow, have my own story with us. So I want to talk about business as a way of. As a vessel, really, for spirituality and being of service, because I know that it has been for you and for myself and a lot of people listening. They want to create their own businesses and use it really as a Way for them to share their voice and impact humanity in a way. So if someone's maybe very much starting their entrepreneurship journey, maybe they're still figuring out, how do I create a business out of what I love? What do you suggest for them?

Well, I think it's very similar to what you speak about when it comes to finding your dharma. I think it's finding out what your passion, what your skill sets are, finding out what serves the world and what problems there are that's happening out there, and what needs solving and how can you help. And to understand that what money is is an exchange of value for value. Before money, we would have bartering. It's still exchanging value for value. So I think once you find out what it is that you want to put out to the world, what skill sets you have, what knowledge do you have, how you can help people? As long as you've got a solution, then people will exchange that value for value. But I think that the thing is, because we use the word spirituality, that's where things can get a little bit more complicated than just I always say to people, if I didn't believe in spirituality and I was just doing business purely just to make money, life would be so much easier. I'm not talking about life as a whole. I'm talking about business. Life would be so much easier when you're talking about spirituality. Just like, even if you talk about churches out there that collect donations, people start talking about, where's the money going? And all this comes a lot of question around money. And this is where I see a big problem in the world, where you have this divide. When I was teaching, I started teaching only 12 years ago. Speaking, I was teaching business. On my journey of teaching business was also during my journey of realizing that money is not everything. And why are we chasing something that is just material, but that is not the goal? So as I evolved, I started to see the people that were coming to my business sessions evolve, and I started to see I was attracting different people as well. People who come in. I'm a theta healer. I'm a reiki healer. I'm this. I'm that download. And all these words and terminology that I would not use before. But I connected with that because that was where I was going. I felt I was remembering. You know, I call it spiritual remembering. And it was like, wow, it's just like, suddenly everything just makes sense. And I started to dedicate so much time to helping these entrepreneurs say, hey, come from a space of love, come from a good intention, come From a space of service. So many people in entrepreneurship, they say, add value and the money will come. But the problem, I see that some people, you can interpret it two ways. Some people say, add value, the money will come. Oh, you mean I need to give somebody something first and then I get to get the money off them? I say, yes, that is add more value and the money will come. But that's a complete different perspective. And the intent is different, the energy is different. But then there's add value and the money will come. Meaning that I sincerely want the good of humanity. I want to help people. And that's the space I come from as a space of love. If people come from that space and then understand if you have the right business knowledge, then the money will come. That's a complete different energy. And so I was taking my years educating these business owners to become conscious entrepreneurs. And I said, hey, that this is sustainable. You're not here just to make the quick buck. This is sustainable and it's helping people. And it's interesting because as I started to awaken myself more and more throughout this journey, I went complete onto this whole language of what we speak today and intuition and downloads and channeling and everything. And obviously then my audience would change because everybody who now I was attracting was all the what we class as woo woo people, all your tree huggers, you know, it's all downloads and everything and angels and everything. And when I went there and I started to communicate with these people and find out where their problems were, I realized that majority of their problems was in the physical world. Now that's interesting because imagine once upon a time I'm on this side, next moment I'm on that side and I'm seeing this problem, I'm seeing that problem. I'm saying, hey, these business entrepreneurs, they're looking at all those tree huggers and saying, go get a job, do something with your life. What do you think? Do you think just God will give you everything? This whole thought? And then the other side is looking at this side and thinking, you guys are just chasing money every day. You don't even know what self love is, is the meaning of life. And it's interesting because they say, what's that saying? They say, we're not human beings having a spiritual experience, we're a spiritual being having a human experience. Right? And the spiritual people can say that, but I don't think they get it yet because what is it meaning? It's meaning that yes, you are spiritual, but you are physical too. So maybe now is not your time. You say, oh, I just want to detach from everything. But there will come a time where you will be detached from everything. But why do you think God Source universe put you into a physical world? To try to get you to completely detach from physical. There must be a purpose, a physical purpose here that you need to fulfill. And I think people don't get that. And that's why people think there's this divide. You have money, you're not spiritual, you're chasing money. I'm not saying chasing money. I say to people all the time, I say, hey, your best mantra is, hey, universe, I'm open for everything, I'm open for abundance, and yet at the same time, I'm attached to nothing. I say, if you live life like that, I say, life becomes so easy, and guess what? Abundance will come your way. And then you don't have to just close your eyes and visualize yourself being abundant. I'm saying, when you open your eyes, are you sitting in comfort? Because that's important too, you know, they know it's important. Except I think a lot of people, they divide these two things.

Yeah, I think it's like a spiral, right? When you're so in the physical realm, your lesson is to detach from this physical reality and trust that there is spirit and there is something beyond. Then you might go only in that realm that it's like all about, you know, enlightenment and leaving your body and connecting to God consciousness. And then you have to go back and realize, like, I'm here in a physical body on this planet for a reason. There must be a reason why I'm here. And it's like this beautiful spiral that we're constantly going into. And you know, you said something interesting the other day when we were walking. You were like, the 60s with Osho was all about kind of like normalizing that you can be a spiritual person and have sex. And they were de stigmatizing that. And today's generation is you can be a spiritual person and have money and want money. And I so agree with that. Like, as a Capricorn, I'm like, I love money, you know, and it's a beautiful way. Like right now, having the choice and having the freedom as a woman to be able to travel where I want and have the ability to make my own decisions. Like no one in my ancestry, no female has ever made money before. And because I have been able to step into that, I now, at this point in my life, can truly live my best reality. And that's why I think it's so important to not demonize money because ultimately money can provide us with freedom and choice. It does not equate to those things.

I think it's like everything in life.

Yeah.

Like in our, in our practices, in our spiritual practices, we do a lot of work on witnessing, witnessing meditation, being the witnesser. And what is a witnesser? A witnesser is being able to see everything just as it is. Not judgmental, not worse than it is, not even better than it is just as it is. And if we look at money, it's just that society is ingrained as money is the root of all and money doesn't grow on and, oh, everything about it is negative. But if we really ask the question, we say, hey, are there some people in this world right now who maybe have a good amount of money who are doing good with that money? And the answer is yes. And is it true that if they didn't have the money, maybe they couldn't do the things they're doing? And the answer is yes. So what does that mean? It's neutral, just like everything.

Yes.

Right. Just like a knife.

It's an expression of who you are.

Just like a knife, you can operate and save someone's life or you can kill someone with it. It's the same thing. It's neutral. Money is. Money is purely a magnify amplifier of who we are.

And I feel like the way that you use money like the universe watches and sees, you know, like, when I started to make money for the first time, the first thing I did was I began sponsoring children in Cambodia.

That's beautiful.

And now I have like seven children, Cambodia and two grannies. And I plan to go to Cambodia and visit them. And I'm emailing with them all the time, and they just feel like my family now. And every single time I would make a little bit more money, I would sponsor another one and sponsor another one. And it's so easy to wait until, oh, once I have this amount of money saved, then I'm going to start to donate. Then I'm going to start to be of service. But when you start to donate and be of service in whatever capacity you can, the universe sees where that money is flowing and sends more to you.

This is why I always say to people, some people say, oh, I'd love to do some charity work sometime. And I say, why sometime? Why not now? They say, oh, yeah, I don't have the financial ability right now. I said, but it's not really that because, hey, if I'm Making a thousand a month, then, hey, I can still give the 10, $50, $100. It doesn't have to.

You don't have to become a millionaire to get that. Exactly. And I think, again, we have such scarcity with money that we're afraid, like, oh, if I'm only making a thousand dollars a month, I need to hold on to every single dollar. And it's like, even if you gave $10 a month, you know, it's showing that I'm not so attached this money. And knowing that I have more money than a lot of people at $1,000 a month, probably more than like 80% of the population.

Do. You know what's interesting, though? Because obviously a lot of our messages to a lot of people who are more spiritually conscious, pretty much all spiritual people can speak that we are abundance, we are unity, we are one with universe, we are everything. Yet at the same time, they live with that scarcity mindset or that it's like unconscious. It's just.

Right, because it's the separation.

Right. That's interesting. Right? Because they can speak it. They can definitely speak it every day. They can even affirm it. Yeah, I am abundance. I'm one with universe. And then the moment it comes to anything with money, then this whole fear starts kicking in.

Well, here's the thing with money, it does require aligned action, you know, And I think a lot of spiritual people have a resistance to action, you know, because it's a lot easier. I call it mental masturbation, you know, in your head, to be like, my vision board, and I'm going to attract this and da, da, da. And then it's like, okay, what are you doing now? Doing with that?

This is what my audience don't like hearing.

No one likes hearing it, but it needs to be said. And, you know, when we realize that we are creators and creatrixes of our own reality, business becomes a tool. It's like, oh, I'm going to wave my magic wand. What do I want to create? Do I want to create a business where I'm one on one Dharma coaching, spiritual life coaching? Do I want to create a business where I take these beautiful candles that I'm making and put them out on Etsy? Do I want to create a business with social entrepreneurship or be a part of a business that has a mission that matters to me? And we realize where we invest our time and energy, we can actually create realities that no longer exist? That's magic. That's alchemy right there. But we have this idea in our head that, like, work is this, like, dense, hard thing that sucks. And it's like, I have my work, and I have, like, my higher spiritual self, and they're separate. But it's when we have that integration that we're like, wow, I can put my energy towards whatever I want. And not everyone wants to be a multimillionaire. That's actually not in some people's best.

Do you know what I think as well? It's not just about the lack behind money or wealth. I think also it's the fear of judgment. Right, Right. You see that a lot of people going into becoming more conscious, coming into the spiritual world, and then they have all their conscious friends, and because it's not commercialized to be okay, then they think, oh, well, I'm supposed to be spiritual right now. I'm not supposed to buy something expensive or pay for something expensive. And I think they also fear judgment.

Totally because we're told those stories, you know, more money, more problems. Or, you know, those neighbors of ours that are rich, see, they're evil or whatever the thing is. And we're also afraid of, yeah, like, letting go of old friends that maybe are not no longer in our tax bracket. And, like, what does that mean? But what I have found oftentimes, too, with money is, like, we think it's this really, really hard, complicated thing, but.

Making money is actually really easy.

And people don't realize that it's actually very easy because every single person has.

A unique gift to offer.

And it's just when we can tune into our dharma, our energetic signature, that we end up sharing that very thing that the world needs that only we can share, which I shared with you. It's like the supply is one and the demand is infinite. So, but it's just. Most people don't sit with that question long enough to understand what it is. So then they're jumping to the thing that looks like it's making money. You know, everyone's talking about this on social media. It's making money. So let me do this. Everyone's doing that, so let me do that. But then you're one in a sea of a million, saying the exact same thing in the exact same way with the exact same brand, the exact same font. And then you're wondering why it's not making money. It's because it's not your dharma. So what tips do you have for someone who is maybe having a hard time, like, with their judgment around money? They want to make more money, but they feel like there Are some limiting beliefs and scarcity blocks.

I think that they need to first think about where those thoughts came from. Most likely it will come from parents, upbringing, teachers, what we've heard in the past. And then also is to acknowledge, okay, where were they at that time? The people who were involved, who conditioned us, who said these words? Maybe that was only their interpretation or your misinterpretation or their understanding of it. So then to question, hey, is that true for everybody who has money? Or is that true for everybody who has tried to make money? Is it really that difficult? Or has it been easy for some and has money been good for some also? And when we come to that more, we take a step back and we look at it, we realize that, hey, money is just neutral and money can be easy if we allow it to be. I think that from that perspective, then I always say the easiest way to get any result in life is to find somebody who's achieved it already. Study, read the books, watch the videos, find the mentors, find the coaches, because they are like you say, making money is easy because your awareness is around that and not everybody's awareness. And we don't learn it at school. So I think at the same time, there are things that need to be learned. Somebody can say, oh, you said add value and the money will come. I help people every single day. I'm still broke. Yeah, but do you have a service for people? Do you say, hey, by the way, this is a service, and, hey, this is the. This is the website, or do you have something there? And the answer is no. Well, that's why. Can you communicate that? And some people will find it. I think the biggest challenge people usually have is they feel like asking for money. They feel like, oh, I don't want to ask for money because it feels like begging for money, or I need their money. But instead of thinking that, I think it's more shift the perspective again to, hey, I have something of value. It's purely an energy exchange. Energy is everything. Everything is energy. Money is energy. So it's just an energy exchange. It's like you smiling as a Muslim smiles back. So it's the same thing. And once we come to that acceptance, then, okay, well, how about we better learn? And I don't say learn sales. I just say, how about we better learn the skill of communication? How about we more effectively communicate? Because actually everybody sells anyway. We do it all the time. We sell to our kids. Do your homework. They say, no, I don't want to. Okay, but if you do your Homework. I'll give you this. It's the same thing. It's an exchange. It's communication. So we're selling all the time. We're even selling when sometimes we purchase a new vacuum cleaner, we got it on sale, and then we tell our aunt or uncle about it, and then they go and buy it. What have we just done? We sold. So we do it all the time. But I think a lot of the time we find it difficult when it's our own service because we feel like I'm. I can't ask people for money. But everything is an exchange of value. Everything is an exchange of energy.

Yes. And I think that this is where packaging something really comes in. Because I could be like, oh yeah, like I'm helping you, giving you advice whenever you need. There's a difference between doing that and packaging like a transformation or here's how I'm gonna work.

This is a coaching program.

Exactly. This is a coaching program. Or this is how we could work together and giving some form of boundaries and structure to it. Because then it can start to make sense in people's minds. Because. Because there's a lot of people out there giving incredible advice and sharing wisdom or doing things for people and stuff. And if they can just fine tune it, choose that thing, create a package around it so the value is easily understood by other people, then it makes sense. So I think that's a really great tip that we're already being a value in many different ways. It's like, how can we have more awareness around it and then make it super easy for someone? Because I think most of us, we're investing in the things that are gonna get us the results that we want faster, you know, so it's like, let's say the result that I want is to find love again. So if I could go to my friend and call her and talk to her for three hours, or I could go to someone who's like, I'm a coach specifically to help you find love again. And it's a 90 minute session. I would even find more value in that because I'm like, okay, this is a container that I'm in with a result and we're working towards that thing versus maybe the friend spent even more time with me, but it was because of my awareness around the value.

That's right. That's right. And another thing that we usually say in this whole area of coaching as well is that people who pay more, pay more attention. When you have actually invested in something, you treat it very differently. How you use the tools is very different. When you sit with a friend, a friend rambles on all night and tells you all these things, you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't end up doing it. So I think that exchange of energy actually helps people to implement, you know, totally.

It's like, what are you going to pay more attention to? You know, maybe you watched a YouTube video or something and the person gave you advice, or you sign up for a coaching session. And even if that person said the same thing, because you invested your time and your energy, you're. You have more awareness and you show up. And I even see in my different containers that I have the higher ticket people, they just take more action on the things that I'm saying because they're showing up in a bigger way. And it doesn't have to be this way. Like, we can see everyone as our teacher and not wait for those things. But I just tend to find that again, the mind perceives value and we take action based on that.

It's how much energy you put out, you also get back.

Yes.

In some form, it comes back. So we can look at that money also. Like energy.

Yeah. Beautiful. And if you have any words of wisdom to share for 2023, I know you do energy forecasts and you shared with me a little glimpse of what's available for us in 2023.

When I went into my initiation journey with my master, Open Himalayas, we did some practices and being able to foresee some things and then needed to come back and communicate this. My master, Grandmaster Aksha, he refers to it as, in spirituality, we call this the Dark Age. Like dark energies are strong right now. But I don't want any of the listeners or viewers to think this as, whoa, that's a lot of negativity. That's really bad. What we're going to do now, just like in certain religions, there's a teaching of three energies. The Creator, the Preserver, the Destroyer. But the Destroyer is not bad. The Destroyer just is needs to do the work, to cleanse and clear for the new things to happen. So right now, in this phase, from 2020, 21, 22, 23, 24, all the way through destroyers at work. So what is it? We have choice. We can say I'm upset that it's happening. Why is this happening to me? Why is all this chaos happening? Why is war breaking out? Why is financial crisis? Why am I losing my job? Why am I? We can all play victim or we can play a bigger role and become one with universe and Observe from universe perspective. Why would there be a cleanse? Why would there be a clearing? Why would there be a loss, Right? I always say to people, hey, a lot of people, they always try and find, oh, I'm trying to find my purpose, find myself, find myself. And I say, hey, but it's the lost and found. You cannot find yourself if you don't first lose yourself. And so we can see loss as is bad or loss as a way of finding yourself. So when you say, I lost in this relationship, actually, hey, but it's clear. This path is more thing. You're finding stuff here. You're finding stuff about you. You're finding stuff about your future. You're finding stuff about your dharma. So during this time, we can either play the blame game and the victim game, or we can play the different level of consciousness and sit and observe when we witness. Everything I say, a good thing you can say is just everything you see. If you see as negative, you can use the word that's interesting. Instead of saying, that's bad, you say, that's interesting because it's neutral. And when we start to observe everything that's happening, we will see that with. There's this Chinese saying that says, in a time of chaos is where opportunity is. Opportunity lies within chaos. Because when that cleansing is happening, it's clearing new space for new creation to happen. Your question to you is, during this time, when I observe, okay, there's some chaos there. Where is my opportunity? To do what? To serve. What can I do? And some people will question. They'll say, wait there a second. So you're saying financial crisis, okay? People are struggling with this, struggling with that. And then you're like, but how am I supposed to help people? I ain't got the knowledge. How about instead of saying all this lack of resources, how about you become resourceful and ask better questions? Instead of saying, oh, yeah, I see opportunities when economic crisis is happening, because it's going to happen, it's coming soon, going to be a big crisis, and everyone's going to be affected. Not just financially. They'll be affected mentally, everything. Am I seeing this as an opportunity? What's this opportunity? Opportunity, okay. Opportunities to invest. You say, but I don't have the money. How do you find the money? Right? How do you leverage the money? Learn about money? Now is a good time to learn mental health. I always say during this pandemic, during this lockdown, I would say there's three things that universe was telling us. And people. People don't see the signs Number one, it gave us the biggest. What? It gave us the biggest health scare. So either people are like sitting at home thinking, I hope I don't die from this virus, or why don't you get active? It's interesting how the universe, I don't know if you noticed this if you look at Covid. Yes, there was a lot of lives lost, inclusive of my grandma actually lost her life also during that time. Right. To Covid. But we can either see it as, oh, it's just lost, lost, lost, lost, lost, or we see, hey, what is the sign? Universe is because universe is always giving us signs. But if we actually look at the stats, what is it showing? Everybody died. No, in fact, it was quite clear. They even said the people who had stronger immune systems, better health, even when they got it, they were okay. The people who had weaker health, they didn't survive. So what is that telling us? That's telling you, hey, that's like this universe saying, I've been telling you all this time to look after your health and you're not listening. So you know what, I'm not just your parent, I'm your most loving parent. I'm going to have to take that thing away from you and force you into looking after your health. But people didn't read it like that. People are just saying, oh, I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared. So look after your health. That includes mental health. Build up, find the coaches, find the mentors, build up your mental health too. Your mental strength. Second thing, wealth scare. And that's people think it's happened already, loss of jobs, all the rest. But there's a big thing happening and it's not. Sometimes people say, oh, that's a good prediction. I say, it's not a prediction. You look at every history, there's cycles every 12 to 15 years, you see the same cycle happen again and again and again. This is not going to differ this time. It's the same thing. It has to happen. So again you can see it as, oh, why is this happening? More people losing their jobs, or oh, my house isn't worth what it was when I bought it. Or I can say, hey, maybe universe is telling me that I need to start managing my finances. Maybe I need to learn about finances, maybe I need to learn about becoming more independent about finances. Why? Because there'll be people losing jobs. But you know what's really interesting? And I did this actually across many, many events. We have like thousands of people come on these virtual events and I asked the question I said, I pretty much know. I said, raise your hands if you've lost your job during lockdown or raised their hand. I said, I want to ask this question. I'm predicting that you were also the people, everyone who did lose your job, you were also the people who, maybe not so long back, one year ago, two year ago, three years ago, you were in your job and you had said, I'm not happy in my job. Or maybe I want to try my own thing. Maybe I want to do my own thing. But you couldn't commit. It's like people in relationships, right? I'm not enjoying my relationship, but I can't break up. I can't live without them, right? Anybody who ever has even spoken that before or felt it before, or received that message or download before through them to say, hey, I should be, I'm called to do my own thing. Yet at the same time, my limited mind or this fear is not allowing me to fulfill that, right? Then what does the universe do? But like I said, the universe is your most loving parent. Universe is listening. Universe is watching, observing. No words go unheard, no actions go unseen. Universe is always watching. Ah, I hear you. I feel you. You want to, but you're afraid of taking that step. Okay, so what was 2020? Let's gather up all the wish list people, right? You all wish for that once upon a time, but you don't have the courage to do it. Let's gather all that up. Okay, Let me help you remove. And then, oh, no, I lost my job. Oh, no, no. Everything happens for a divine reason. Nothing's by accident. At some point you sent out a signal, right? And then it responded. And now you're not happy with the response, right? It's because it surprised you. But actually nothing should surprise you because everything is manifestation. So when we start to look at this, what does that mean? Okay, now, anybody who's going to be struggling financially, what should that be? Oh, it's a sign. You mean I'm supposed to learn. You mean I'm supposed to learn something here. I'm supposed to learn how to become more independent, how to manage my own finances. And the final thing, this final sign I say is for evolution. I always say our physical reality is purely a limited representation of the metaphysical. Metaphysical is infinite. It's way beyond. It's trying to get this message through so everything can manifest into physical reality. This thing that is way beyond. And that's why all we've seen for the past 20 years, 50 years, 100 years, is evolution. We've been advancing technology. So what is this final sign? It's a move into technology. We see it. When did Metaverse announce? Metaverse announced during the. The same time lockdown and announced. Why is everything going digital? Currency, everything's going digital. Assets, everything going digital reality. And it's very interesting because I think pre Covid, pre lockdown, everybody will all these spiritual teachers, put your phone down, get off your phones, be more present in the moment. That was the message. We've lost that connection with people during lockdown. Universe was like, you think because Universe was saying, you don't know what's coming around the corner during lockdown. Probably the only thing that gave us connection was technology. The thing that we were told to keep putting down and that you shouldn't be on technology, you should be more spiritual. So how do we like, even inclusive of this dialogue we're having here? How are people going to consume this through technology? We can say this is a spiritual message, but it's through technology that they're receiving this message. So is technology good? Is it bad? For a lot of spiritual people, the technology is not good. You shouldn't do all this stuff. But actually, hey, wait there a second. You're listening to this right now on some virtual platform, on some social media, on some podcasts. So what is it coming to now? Universe is going to show you even more powerful thing moving forward as it manifests through us. It's the opportunity that the universe is basically saying, get online. If you look at businesses, is it that all businesses crashed during the lockdown or during this time? No, it's not. Look at Amazon. His wealth went up how many times. Why? Because it was showing you high street stores were struggling, all these conventional businesses struggling. What was thriving? Online business was thriving. Everyone was going online.

Yeah, I had my biggest month ever in my membership community, March 2020.

There you go.

Because people were wanting online community exactly.

The same as us. March 2020, we had 22,000 people practice yoga with us on a zoom call.

Wow.

We never had that amount before. Right. So what is the sign for everybody? The sign is, okay, just don't see anything bad. Right? Don't even need to see anything really, really good or anything. Just see it as it is. Evolution. We're moving towards technology world. It's moving now. Question. Okay, you're early in crypto, in NFTs, in assets, in Metaverse, you're early. You say that's bad. No, it can be bad if you are putting bad information in there. Just like social media can be Negative. There's negative channels. Or it can be positive, like this podcast show. So how about if you can bring this podcast show into the Metaverse and you'll be the first one. We're saying, how do we find opportunities during this time? This is the opportunity during this time. Right. And the interesting thing is this. There's a saying that says change is the only constant. But at the same time, we also know that humans are not so good when it comes to change. Right. Because it's that fear of the unknown. I don't know what's going to happen. Will it turn out? Will it work out? But if we understand that change is the only constant, meaning we're going to be forever evolving right now. There'll be a lot of people who will listen to this. Oh, you're talking about Metaverse. You're talking about that Mark Zuckerberg thing. Oh, that's about data protection and all this. And I get all of that. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you obviously don't understand yet. We are not talking about Mark Zuckerberg. We are not even talking about Facebook Metaverse. We are just saying that there is a virtual world that we're advancing in right now. Where do I see that virtual world? It is the exact bridge. We have the metaphysical, we have the physical. The metaverse, or that virtual world will be the bridge between these two. Everything you've ever dreamt of before as a kid. Loves to fly like Superman, a house built of chocolate. Whatever it is, doesn't matter how crazy your thought is. You dreamt of it when you were a kid.

So I can manifest my soulmate.

Yeah. And to look any way you want them to look as well. But the thing is that these things in physical reality are still limited because why? There's physical laws, right? There's gravity, there's all of this. There's physical laws that we're bound by when we're in this physical. But metaverse, it changes everything. We'll be able to time travel, we'll be able to. You can be back in Miami, I'll be here in Dubai. And the moment I put this on, I'll be sitting in your living room. And in future, we'll be able to shake hands, we'll be able to hug. It's like, wow. On the other side of the world. But the thing is, people will be looking at. No, I'm not going to put those silly goggles on. But that's what they said for social media when it first started, too. That's also what people said, I don't know if you had this right. I'm guilty of this. When supermarkets started introducing the self checkout. Yeah, I don't know what your feeling was, whether you just received it very nicely, but personally, I didn't. Just like any other human out there, I was looking at it. Oh, look, another robot. And now we're losing that human touch again. You got no one to speak to. So guess what? During that time, I would still queue up, right? Everyone's going, fast checkout. I'm like, nope, I want person. I'm stubborn. Nope. Humans are not so good with change. And I heard a lot of people say that too. Oh, we're losing the human touch. But it's very interesting. Unconsciously, what, four, five, six, seven years have passed by, and unconsciously, we all use that fast lane now. Why? Because we realize it's convenient. That's what technology is. It's convenient. Right. People would never have imagined before lockdown that they would sit in front of a laptop for three days to indulge themselves in a motivational event. They would do that now. And not only they will do that now, some people even prefer to do that now. We've evolved, and it's been an unconscious evolution. We don't even know how far we've come, but we've already evolved as humans, you know?

Yeah. And I agree with what you're saying. And, like, what comes up for me is the fear of losing our sense of grounding. Like, you know, I've put on these, like, VR Oculus things, and I feel so dizzy after because it's like the human body is still evolutionary behind, and we're like, wait, I remember I did this, like, boxing game, and it was like this person punching me, and I'm like, ah. It was like my nervous system could not handle it. So how can we adapt when our biology is still very much designed for in person connection, being on Earth, et cetera?

It will naturally happen. It will naturally happen. One, yes, our biology would advance, but yet at the same time, technology will also advance to also match us too. So both will advance. But I think that it's like when lockdown first happened and we were teaching yoga from a zoom call. Our feeling was, oh, it's not the same. I can't help you. I can't even see the angle properly. I don't even know if you're doing it correctly or not. You know, I don't know how to guide properly. But then slowly, slowly you adjust and it becomes normal. It's the same with everybody at work now having Zoom meetings all the time. And it's funny because I speak to so many people today, and when lockdown first happened, everyone's like, oh, I just wish I could get out the house and meet people. The funny thing is, two years later, people get the opportunity to meet people and they don't want it anymore. They're like, actually, let's just jump on Zoom and let's just chat on there. Right? It's easy to do.

And I wonder if that's because now we're comfortable with being in our, like, very lonely cubicle that we control, you know? And, like, then going out there and going to an event and meeting new people, it brings up that fear.

There's that as well. How I see it is like this, like, social media. Okay. Is it bad? Well, not really. It is if you're addicted to it, but same with any addiction. So when you're talking about grounding, should they still be present in the moment when they're having a meal with their family? Of course. But when it comes to some convenience to be able to suddenly chat to somebody on the other side of the world, would you use it? Yes, use it. But don't remember this world. Now, this is the interesting thing with this whole Web three game. Now. Now is saying, before, we were like, okay, our highest self, most connected, and we're here. And then social media is like, okay, we go into there and we get lost in there. Okay. But now, then we go into there, and all these gurus are now teaching, go into there, but don't get lost in there. Come back, live in the present moment. Now, humans are going to need to evolve even more, because why? You got two layers now. You're not just going to go into there, you're going to go into there, and then there's going to be a lot of people who get lost in there too. Right. So what's that then? Like you, like me, the retreats we run, people will still have to come back, take the goggles off, still go to Bali with you, and still meditate in person to ground that energy and to understand, okay, how do we use these as tools, not living it indefinitely, forever. How do we use it as tools to be able to help the people around us or help more people in the world or fulfill some of the things that we cannot fulfill in this physical reality, but don't get lost in it.

Yeah. I even think about how TikTok was made right before the pandemic, and then when the pandemic happened. TikTok was this way that so many people were dancing and doing challenges together, and even I was having a lot of fun on there. And I was so grateful to have this app. But then. And once kind of life started picking up, I was noticing I'm like missing out on life to scroll on TikTok. And now it's like it crossed that threshold of now I'm addicted to this app. And I had to delete it off my phone to find that equilibrium again.

But people need to attach before they detach, right? There is no point any other way. I had the same thing when I first started YouTube. I was vlogging. I don't know if you tried. Have you tried vlogging before?

No.

You lose your life. It's not okay. We're going for a meal even. Who are you going for meal?

Here I am just sat down. The menu is right.

Wait there a second. Let me figure out the lens. Okay. The angle, you know, you're not enjoying the meal anymore. You're not even enjoying the person anymore. It becomes that. But then you get lost in there to then find again. Okay, what's the balance here? And it's interesting when you said that, because I thought of something that my master, Grandmaster Akshay, he always says. He says a lot of people today, always practicing detachment, minimalism, detach from this. Detach from everything. Detach from everything he said. The funny thing is, he said a lot of people, they never had it in the first place. You know, a lot of these people venturing into spirituality, consciousness and detachment, you never had the wealth in the first place. What are you detaching from? How about you allow yourself, at least give yourself the honor. Because we're in this world for such a short time in this physical reality. How about you give yourself, just honor yourself to give yourself the experience to experience life at its fullest. Experience at the fullest. And then decide, oh, I don't like the taste of that, but at least taste it first. Otherwise you never know. And then decide, where is the balance? Should I detach this much? That much? 80%, 50%. Right. Then find, okay, what's best for me.

Yeah, I think it's. You chase your desires to realize which ones are empty. You know, like, you might. If you have a desire of, like, I want to have a hundred thousand TikTok followers or whatever the thing is like, and that desire is there. You deleting TikTok is not going to get rid of that desire.

You need to follow it and see.

And make the content and build and grow. And then you might realize that you love it or you might realize that it was, you have a hundred thousand and now you need two hundred and five hundred and a million and it's, it's never enough for you. But you would never have consciously had that experience if you didn't try.

Like the person who says, I want to start my own business. Okay, done. I want to make my first six figures, done. I need to be a millionaire. Done. 10 million, 100 million. Done. Depression, what am I doing? It's the same thing. But that depression, that down comes the next up. It's chaos to order. So it's inevitable. It's a part of human evolution. It's a part of how we learn. It's part of our journey.

Can we create experiences that we learn without chaos? Like, how can we learn without chaos? Learn without going into the pain and the rug being swept under your feet? Do you think that's possible?

I think the learning is different, the depth of the learning is different. So yes, we can. But it's very surface level. It's not deeply ingrained, you know, so somebody can tell you, hey, you don't do this in business, you should do this. You're like, okay, people tell you relationship, you shouldn't do this. You should communicate effectively or whatever. Okay, you listen to it, you do it and it works. But it's not deeply inside. You will still, if some big chaos happens, you still make those mistakes and then still dive into that problem. But I think that when people really get down and messy in all the chaos, it becomes the biggest learnings.

Yeah, because I can read a book about self love or I can go through the journey of losing love and that will actually really help me embody that lesson.

But then, okay, so I have something for you. But then comes the question of what is the point of reading the books on it then instead of just, I.

Think the books can give you insight that you would not have had on your own. You know, like sometimes we're so in our own heads and 80% of our thoughts are repeated from the day before. So we're kind of cycling these old belief systems that we've kind of picked up from the world around us. So reading a book can open you up to a whole new universe and way of seeing things that can prepare you for when those experiences happen. Or maybe those experiences won't need to happen because you have that awareness and you can, you know, kind of see it from afar. However, I don't think you can prevent anything that's related to your karma, it's going to happen. And it tends to be only through that embodied experience you reach depths that that no book coach, teacher could ever prepare you for.

And I think that books and education just accelerates the whole journey.

Yes.

Because you can avoid some mistakes.

Right.

It's like being able to speak different languages. It's having a wider range of vocabulary. So then when you're in the experience, you're not figuring it out on your own for the first time. You're like, oh, wow, millions of people have experienced suffering and loss and grief and all these things. I'm not alone. But no book is going to give you the manual on how you're going to with deal with it either.

That's right.

Yeah. Well, this has been a lovely conversation. Thank you so much for sharing all your wisdom with us today. Thank you for having and where can listeners connect with you further?

I think the best place is probably YouTube. They can find me on YouTube.

Yes.

Some awesome videos which we'll share below so we'll be sure to link them. Thank you again so much for being here today.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Namaste.

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