583: The Shadow Types Of Each Horoscope + 2025 Astrological Themes with Christopher Witecki
30 Dec 2024 · 57 min
This is a podcast episode titled "583: The Shadow Types Of Each Horoscope + 2025 Astrological Themes with Christopher Witecki" recorded in late 2024. It features a conversational discussion between Sahara Rose and astrologer Christopher Witecki exploring the shadow traits of each zodiac sign, Venus placements, and astrological predictions for 2025. Sahara Rose hosts the episode, guiding the spiritual and astrological themes in a modern, relatable way, while Christopher provides detailed astrological insights. The content is a multi-speaker dialogue focused on astrology and spirituality.
If I name a sign, just tell me. Like the shadow of the first thing. Venus in Capricorn.
Control issues.
Venus in Gemini.
They're really hanging on the words. What did he mean by that? What does she mean by that?
Venus and Aries.
That's makeup sex. There's a lot of. Show me, don't tell me Venus and Leo. This is just love for love's sake. They want to exchange love with everything.
Venus and Scorpio capable of having an.
Affair with the neighbor's husband and no one finds out about it.
My Venus is in Aquarius.
They don't care so much about how the person looks.
Venus in Pisces.
Venus in Pisces is basically a spiritual love. Spiritual love meaning Venus in Taurus, the sensual, the roses, the rose petals.
Venus in Virgo.
Things have to be perfect. There's a perfectionism in Venus in Virgo. Venus in Libra is your Romeo and Juliet.
Venus in Sagittarius, Venus in Sag.
It's like, are you going to talk about it? Are you going to kiss me? Come on.
Discover the shadow traits of how each zodiac sign loves according to where you have youe Venus by world leading astrologer Christopher Witecki. Plus 2025 astrological predictions exclusively on Highest Self podcast with Pluto. Moving out, Capricorn. Who are the signs now that have been really affected by this? And what's this new energy that we're going into?
First of all, Capricorn controls everything. So actually.
Welcome back to the High Self podcast. My name is Sahar Rose and on this podcast I love to take spirituality and make it modern, fun, grounded and relatable so it can actually serve your needs. So last week we went into a little spiritual rabbit hole with astrologer Christopher Witecki. We began speaking about the big themes of 2025 and how each of the signs relate in relationship. So this is part two of that conversation, which you can totally start wherever you are. Listen to part one later on. Or maybe you wanna go back and listen to part one. And be sure to hit subscribe as well so you can get notified for all of our other episodes. So in this one we dive deep into the other themes of 2025 that he sees coming up in our astrology, collectively and internally, as well as the shadows of every single sign. So, Capricorns, what do we actually think about them? Scorpios? Well, I think we think a lot about them. We dive into all of it in this conversation. I'm so excited to share it with you. And before we Drop into this episode. Be sure to hit subscribe wherever you're listening to this podcast. That is the best way to stay up to date on the latest episodes. We've got this in video format, so if you're just hearing my voice, be sure to also watch our fabulous outfits on video as well on Spotify, YouTube or the Apple Store. This is the best way to stay in the flow with future conversations and also allows the podcast to reach more people. So hit subscribe so I can keep vibing with you on all future episodes. Now let's get into this one. So if we can do a quick little microdose of the Venus of each sign and what they're in. So Venus in Capricorn, what are they like?
Venus in Capricorn is actually not very Venus in my opinion. Not traditional Venus. It's more like there's terms and conditions that are negotiated with the person. Has Venus in Capricorn probably getting the better side of the deal because they've thought through it more often. There's a lot of agreements in Venus, Venus and Capricorn. There's a lot of agreements. We agree, we both like this. We agree, we both like that. There's these handshake sort of deals and then there's the honeymoon. Right. If anything, Venus in Capricorn can miss out on some of the fun and the mess and some of the stickiness, the syrupy part of it. I find that that happens. But Venus and Capricorn probably will marry for a lifetime because they got all those deals in place and they knew exactly what they're getting and what they're not getting. And if the other party agrees and lives up to it, that's usually your 50 year anniversaries and things like that.
Beautiful. Okay. Venus in Aquarius.
Venus in Aquarius is a difficult one, I'll just say, because Pluto has just moved to Aquarius. We're now just starting to reacquaint ourselves with what Aquarius really is. But Venus in Aquarius is at a vibrational level, basically that there has to be certain vibrations humming at the same time. So a good way to think of this as an orchestra. A Venus in Aquarius has to have all the right notes playing at the same time to create this fabric of energies that just all going at the same time. And the thing about Venus in Aquarius is they don't care so much about how the person looks. They can close their eyes and they're in love with them because they're loving how they feel, how they vibe. So when you're like, I just love the way that person makes me feel. That's a Venus, Aquarius person. I will say that because they're loving the vibe of that person. And they're also very free too. They know it's like. And he has the vibe and he has the vibe they can kind of energetically see. Which is why I'm thinking back to your first question. Why? I think Age of Aquarius we're going to start to be more vibe based and not other based. So it doesn't matter that they don't come from the same family. It doesn't matter that they didn't go to college. They're cool, you know, they have the same vibe. So Venus is opening up to that vibe in Aquarius, right?
Venus in Pisces.
Venus in Pisces is basically a spiritual love. So spiritual love meaning, you know, lifetime, lifetime. I've been with you, I've been by your side. It's that sort of as far as the love story on Earth, it's usually that, you know, I was destined, this was the one, you know, okay, never end. This one's the one. Because they always have more than one. Because Venus in Pisces is. You're basically pulling from your spiritual experiences and your spiritual arcs. So, you know, I learned in Atlantis that love is this. And then I learned in Venice love was that. And then I learned, you know, so these, these souls are sort of tuning into the spiritual frequencies of love and how love comes together. And that means they're a little bit more tolerant of, you know, wrongdoings or whatever because they have a multi lifetime perspective of love. And so. And they also are easy to say goodbye because they know they'll see them again another lifetime. So it's a weird, in a way, it doesn't fit the Christian marriage model at all.
Interesting. All right. Venus in Aries.
Venus in Aries is like, that's make up sex, right? So they're the makeup sex generation of the planet. There's a lot of. Show me, don't tell me you didn't bring the flowers. You didn't say you didn't show up. So this is expectation for an action to happen. But also Venus in Aries is like falling in love with the soldier, falling in love with the gladiator, falling in love with the macho, the monkey that climbed the highest. The idea of showing off for your girl would be a Venus. A man who has Venus in Aries would show off for his girl, climb the coconut tree and nearly risk his life because there's this idea that love is proven. You got to prove it to him. I'm going to see it. I want to have things on the wall that show me all the times that you love me. And they're demanding some sort of action be taken. So it's tied to Aries is our ego. So it can be a whole scale of things. But Venus in Aries also could be they're falling for one narcissist after another because people have gone too far with ego. People loving the bad guy, loving the guy on the motorcycle. Venus in Aries, the one that is cool and pushing limits and not going to be his own man or be her own woman kind of thing.
Got it? All right. Venus in Taurus, my favorite.
That's mine. That's the sensual. So Venus in Taurus is the sensual. The roses, the rose petals. I mean, that story we hear on Earth at the end of the day, that Venus is a tactile Venus. It's a Venus of experiential, where the experience itself and the richness of the experience, the richer the better. The richer the chocolate, the better, the deeper the concept, the farther it goes in theory, and the more things it spins off of. So these are the poets sometimes. Although Venus and Gemini would be the poet.
I'm manifesting one of these.
Yeah, you want to Venus. I think Venus in Taurus is yummy. As far as what we fantasize about, what love is. Right.
Venus in Gemini.
Venus in Gemini is like pillow talk, what he said. I mean, they're really hanging on. The words. They're really hanging on. What did he mean by that? What does she mean by that? I think that had a double meaning. There's a lot of it's about the exchange of ideas and falling in love with people who are on the same mind wavelength. And the thing there is each Venus has its consequence. So your Venus in Pisces is not going to have the strength and showing up for that person, not going to have that so much. So you end up losing some things. And Venus in Gemini can be kind of cold. Cold in the sense of there's no warm blankets. As long as you're thinking for them, that's enough. Right. I was thinking of you. So there's a bit of a distance with Venus. Gemini. I always think about our forefathers, how they're writing their wives. That's very Venus in Gemini. Their whole relationship is writing their wives, right? All the Benjamin Flaker's wives, letters to his wives. And that sufficed, right. That was enough for them because it stimulated their head, it stimulated everything else. Right. Venus and Leo, this is a juicy one, too. I love Venus and Leo. I love Venus and Leo, but I have Leo rising, Leo moon. So this is just love for love's sake. Venus and Leo, they want to exchange love with everything. So they're loving their cats and they're loving the butterfly and everything is just that magical. Venus and Leo also wants an exclusivity, kind of the best, the richest, the one that was known for killing the most monkeys or whatever the tribe might be doing. So there's also kind of a Braveheart, kind of a prince, knight in shining armor sort of energy to it that goes with it, the presentation of it. Basically, it's presented a certain way, but ultimately, Venus and Leo, people are very loving. There's a dark side to every Venus, too. So the bitter, the angry, they can't get over it. Venus and Leo, it's like it's been 30 years and you haven't moved on.
Venus and Leo is Jennifer Lopez. Venus in Leo, I don't know, but she's Leo. I think the sun is Leo. Yeah, she sounds like this archetype. Yeah.
Oh, totally. And she won't let go. Right. And she could throw away her whole art career because of it. Venus and Leo is the expression also. Venus is our creativity, too, and how we prism our creativity and how we approach our artistry as well. So Venus and Leo, I think, is really yummy. But you have to have some aqua in there to kind of get some perspective, because the aqua gives you that perspective of this, but not that. And Leo's just like everything.
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Venus and Leo.
Because when you said Aqua, do you.
Mean Aquarius or Aquarius, I meant Aquarius.
Okay, okay, got it.
Yeah, I just meant, like, No, I don't think Venus and Leo and Venus, Aquarius really are attracted to each other.
Right.
Because romantic in each of those periods is. But usually what happens is you have a Venus and Leo person. They're married to someone or partner with someone who has some Aquarius in them.
So Do Venus and Leo. People want the relationship kind of be all about them. Like, I want you to be obsessed with me. Worship me.
Yes. I mean, but that evolves to worship us. So once they get mature, like, they want you to worship the whole couple at that point, they're, you know, they're Jennifer Lopez and, you know, that's the level of their love. They're taking that. You saw that relationship with Ben Affleck. That is like 20° and above Venus. Right. So the whole world knows about it. Everyone's writing about it. You know, we're so they're all following our love stories, see how popular we are from the love. That's Venus in love. Going to that fame level on the high level. So within a Venus, there's always those three major decades.
I wonder if celebrities just happen to have higher degree numbers and that's why they're famous.
That's interesting. I haven't gone to study that, but that's very interesting.
I'd be curious.
Yeah.
All right. Venus in Virgo.
Venus in Virgo has a bad rap because these are the ones. This is the tough love that you need. So my joke with Venus in Virgo is when you lean in for a kiss, she's going to tell you you got spinach in your teeth and just ruin the moment. Or they were kind of putting a lot of emphasis on. But the house wasn't clean. How could we ever have romance? But this wasn't happening. Things have to be perfect. There's a perfectionism in Venus in Virgo. But Venus in Virgo, you see Venus in Virgo, people married to people who have disabilities, people who are sick people, huge age gaps. Whenever someone young marries the woman who married Hugh Hefner. Is that it? That will marry the older person, a younger person that will go through that. That's a Venus in Virgo. They understand the uniqueness necessary for that love to work, and they're willing to dial it in on all those weird degrees at the same time to make it work.
Okay.
It's a very healing one.
So next we're at Venus in Libra.
Venus in Libra. I personally believe that Taurus is ruled by Earth, not Venus. So I think Venus in Libra is in its purest state. So this is like your Venus in Libra is kind of like your Romeo and Juliet. The real extreme love. The jambox out the window. Like that one scene I can't remember now from the old film. It's interesting because Libra is the opposite of Aries. And so Aries is like, look at me. And Venus in Libra is like, look what I'll do for you, look what I'll do for. So it's this sort of heroic for only one person kind of energy. But it also can be very. It can really go back and forth to some degree. It's unstable.
I've never had a good experience standing in Libra, honestly.
Yeah, yeah, no comment.
There was like a period that I was like, there's like a Libra vibe. I was just like, this is not for me. It was just so uncertain.
Yeah. I think actually interesting. We have right now the nodes in Aries and Libra. Right. So right now the world for the first time in 18 years, because it's an 18 year orbit or cycle. Librans in Aries are being upgraded right now in a big way. And it's interesting because you can really see it. Libras are having a hard time because the tricks aren't working anymore. The world's gotten wise. The lady's man was usually a Libra. They are abusing their power. They know relationships so well they can get what they want. So that particular spectrum I think is coming out of a cycle of somewhat abusive in the sense of what we consider abusive in relationships because Aries and Libra had gone too far. And so they're kind of being reined in right now.
Interesting.
And it seems like the Aries. Aries are softening if you watch them, if you have Aries friends.
Yeah, some of my best friends are Aries and I've never had conflict with them. But they all have conflict with each other.
Oh yeah.
All the Aries I know don't like each other.
Yeah, yeah. They started bar fight right away. Yeah, yeah. And they like that and they need that. You know, it's kind of locker room, kind of like, you know, ex soldiers. But Ares used to be, you know, kind of walled off, you know, that silent hero. Like that's what you see in a movie where, you know, the hero's alone and the woman's looking at him from afar. It probably will never work, you know. Now Ariuses are like picking up mops and becoming more Libra. In fact, our staff has been noticing that there's changing sides. The Aries are becoming more like the Librans. The Librans are being forced to grow a spine and become more like the Aries. So it's interesting to see this moment because I don't know how long the cycle of this particular Aries Libra has been, but I think it Goes all the way back to Atlantis. We've been acting like this.
Interesting. All right. Venus in Scorpio.
Venus in Scorpio is black lipstick. Choke her out to dinner. This is an extreme, sexy, unpredictable, mysterious, probably dangerous if you don't watch yourself. Definitely bringing wax and other weird stuff in the bedroom, but also very, very private. Venus and Scorpio will have an affair. Can have an affair. It's capable of having an affair with the neighbor's husband and no one finds out about it. So lots of secrets, which builds the intensity when you have secret love and no one knows. There's so much energy built up from that wall that's put up so you have this extreme. This extreme, extreme emotion, extreme, extreme fighting, instant sexual compatibility. Just. They know how to get each other's pants off. They know how to get each other naked right away.
With other Venus in Scorpios or just with anyone.
Venus in Scorpio would be the seducer, like the one that pulls the siren that pulls in the person. And that can be a man, too. So a man with Venus in Scorpio. He's hard staring that woman down at the bar. He's sending those vibes, energetic vibes for a long time before there's an approach, trying to get the subject to wander into the Scorpio's den because they don't want to go far from the den. They don't go far from their comfort zone, Scorpio. So they lure you in. That energy is like, come on, come on, you'll like it. So Venus and Scorpio can be very. Lots of secrets. You'll never know how many people they suffer. Never, you know, kind of thing that's going to be buttoned up. And you may. They may never tell their husband ever something or vice versa. And they're okay with it. That's the way it has to be. And their mind is protecting them, the other party, from the pain and whatever. And in their mind and their perspective, they're not doing anything wrong because they're actually protecting, in the end, you know, further damage. So it justifies the walls they put up.
Well, I'm definitely getting a restraining order on. Stay out of my life. Thank you. But I do know that Scorpios, when they evolve at the highest level and overcome that, they're extremely powerful.
That's the idea of the Scorpio versus the eagle. And there is evolution like that. Yeah, Scorpios are amazing at the master level. I have many master level Scorpio friends, and they're Just they will stop and they'll stop and say, everyone, we need to be considering the needs of. Start putting in boundaries right away. This isn't right. Just take command of the situation and really be kind of a police officer. Not to demean it in that sense, because it's of the pay rate, but it's like they'll go ahead and step into the situation, take over and start drawing lines.
Beautiful. So next we have Venus in Sagittarius, right?
Oh, Venus and Sagittarius are your poets, your travelers. Two ships in the night. If it feels right now, then it's good. It doesn't feel right now, doesn't feel right tomorrow, then that's also good. There's not a lot of. They are just chasing a string of consciousness, a story. So they're living this story and they're living that story, and they love the story and the history of the story and telling the story. So if anything, with Venus and Sag, it's like, are you going to talk about it? Are you going to kiss me? It's like, come on. They're always wandering. And I think when people are connected to a Venus and Sag, they kind of wonder, am I number one? Because they see Venus and Sag, people are meeting everyone, saying hi to everyone. So sometimes it can create some insecurity in that sense, but that's because we're immature on the other side, too, don't understand their nature. These are people who are always writing a story and living by a story. The Venus and Sag people. So you see them repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. North node in Aries right now is revitalizing Sagittarius. Love, like how they look at love right now. And again, it's once every 18 years. So Sagittarius are getting an upgrade on how they love because the north node is in Aries. So I actually think that we're going to see Sagittarius finding a whole new type.
I was about to say, I'm a SAG rising. And I really resonate with my sag. I have completely shifted my type entirely. And my old type just, like, repulses me now. Now I'm like. I'm just so much more like, yeah, if I don't see you for the rest of my life, I'm just, like, not interested. Whereas before I was like, oh, okay, whatever. Just have an experience, you know? So maybe that's even the SAG evolution.
The signs are evolving. It's not really the same definitions. I think they do change. And we're At a point now, you know, going back to our original conversation, the Earth is about to go to a whole new timeline from what we understand. And that means that all the participants of the Earth have to change how they operate. And it's happening organically. And in Sagittarius's case, actually they're settling down is what we're seeing. We're seeing Sagittariuses settle down and have kids, something you've never seen before. It's like seeing a sailor not going from port to port and meeting another woman thinking about the girl at home, which is unheard of.
So true. Because I'm like, whoever I date next is just going to be my husband. That's where I'm at in my life. Husband's only.
It's interesting. Which tells you if you look at the, the species, it's like, okay, the travelers are now staying at home and having kids. So what does that say? I mean, it changes the culture a lot because SAG is the ones pushing for, you know, how many stickers are on your suitcase and how many stamps are in your book and all the places you've seen and name dropping the cities you've been to. And now they're naming their children after these cities. You know, like, it's interesting to see it evolve.
Yeah, I love that. So who are the signs that have some of the biggest years this year?
That's a good question. So the nodes are going to move into, in 2025, into Pisces and Virgo. And that is going to, for them alone, is going to make their lives really important. So when you are a sign and there's a node in your sign at the time you play out the role, you carry out the role of that node, your personality starts to change. And as a result, everyone who's used to you being that way has to now reposition themselves because you've changed. So I think that we're going to see, and we're going to see a lot of change. Pisces are finally sober. They're finally out of their addictive personality, their addictive sides. They're out of their to some degree manipulative side. So what's happening is these signs are dropping their shadow, they're dropping the shadow aspects of their lives. So and Virgos, who have just been serial monogamous, that were hurt every time, that's the reputation of Virgo, never perfect enough, that type of thing. They're finally starting to get realistic. And you see that now because in their house of relationships is Neptune And Saturn. So Virgos are finally kind of getting over the. I don't want to call it victimhood, but it is in a lot of ways. It's just counting all the times they've been hurt, counting all the times this has happened, being pulled into a more romantic, more reasonable unionship.
Everyone's losing their shadows or just Pisces?
No, I think everyone's. Well, first of all, the fact that the north node is in Pisces and the south node is in Virgo means that the entire Earth is now moving to the next spiritual story. And we're leaving behind the materialization of that story. So the old spiritual story, this idea of the narcissist, which, you know, peaked probably in the last four years, as far as everyone's known, the narcissist. Now, that's us working out the shadow of that, where things go too far. That story's over. You won't really see, I think, that kind of personality type going forward. It's not a disease that's going to kill the Earth. It was a phase, right? So every sign is actually improving somewhere in their lives. Right. But there are some signs that do much more than others. So one of the phenomenons that we have in 2025 is Jupiter, excuse me, Saturn and Neptune are moving from Pisces into Aries. So Saturn and Neptune have been focused on Aries, which has been sort of Neptune bringing us the wisdom, Saturn bringing us the discipline. So our discipline to cut the karmic cords, our wisdom of where the karmic cords are. Now those two move into the sign of Aries. So Aries becomes heavily under reorganization, metamorphosis. Right? And it means that all behavior on Earth and all ways of action on Earth have to now go to a higher level. So the last time that these two planets went into Aries was the start of the Civil War. So it was prior to the Civil War that we had all this discussion of what's moral, what's not moral, you know, what are the tax laws around slaves, all this type of thing. Then it couldn't be resolved. Basically, the United States divided into two camps, the two Fish of the Pisces. And then they went into Aries and we had a war. Bloodbath. And war. The most brutal bloodbath I think we ever had on Earth, from my understanding, as far as the number of deaths and how horrible it was with disease and everything. Now they go back into Aries again for the first time together, for the first time since the Civil War. And so this is why, when you said earlier, are we going to have a revolution or are we going to have a civil war? I said, no, we're not. I don't think this. I don't feel so. Because each time you go back to that place, you go back to a higher level. So it won't be a bloodbath, this life. This time it'll be something else. But Aries is going to be kicked in the butt. They're going to have a lot of. Because Aries is ego. And the way ego has been serving us is dying now. So those who are holding onto those old principles of, you know, honor, kind of like the Marines, you know, like, I think that they're going to find that there's just no tolerance. No one is interested in that anymore. No one finds it sexy. You know, no one's throwing roses at your feet when you come back from the war. I think the whole world is disgusted with that level. And so I think it starts to expire. And that's one of the reasons why I think whoever is president or whatever happens, I don't think it's going to turn into what media has been presenting because it's simply no longer. It's going extinct on the planet. Extinction starts. So that's going to be a big issue. Uranus goes from Taurus into Gemini next year. And that's huge because the last time that happened, most of the technology of World War II was developed. So the atom bomb is Uranus in Gemini, all the big killing machines. And I think right now, AI Is that so? I think that Uranus in Gemini is going to bring. Is where AI Starts to look like it could grow out of control is with that. Because Uranus sort of forced things to grow. But at the same time, we'll probably have incredible discoveries of intelligence and good things that we can do with it. But Geminis are going to be a hot mess for like, seven years because Uranus is an air sign itself and Gemini's an air sign. So we're talking about.
I see my Gemini friends are really going through it right now.
Me too. Yeah. And I have a son who's Gemini. And they just so. They don't want to change their mind. They're just so fixated on what they think until it's not. And then they say, no, no, I don't really think anymore. For 10 years you've been telling me this. No, no. They just want you to erase it, like you never said it and just take on the new script as if like a soap opera has replaced an actor. It's like, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm used to this from you. So I think Geminis are going to be a bit scrambled. But I also think Geminis are kind of, if you know Geminis, they haven't sort of stuck on a certain level thinking and talking. You try to take them deep and they bring it back to the bubble gum and it's like, wait. It's like, come on. And they're bored with us because we won't keep playing the same game over and over, right? And we're just like, we've been done that Gemini. How many times are we going to repeat? This population would like to have a different conversation with Geminis. They're thinking a richer one that includes all topics, not just their favorites. So I think Geminis is very dominated conversation.
I feel like a lot of Geminis are sort of narcissistic.
Well, I think you have the potential to become narcissist when you give all your attention just to your mind. Because what keeps you in the mind from going too far is your emotions, your compassion, Pisces, your heart. Leo. And the mind has the ability to just. The mind in itself, the way it's architected, has the ability to ignore everything else but the neuron, right? So that has been very dangerous. In fact, I believe that sign of Satan is 555, not 656, I think, which is thought, thought, thought, three levels of thinking. No, you know, ideas of feelings or heart or anything in those three levels of thinking. That's really dangerous. 666 actually is all about opening up and, and flowing. So I think what is 6 related to?
What sign is that?
Libra receive giving and receiving openness. You know, so, you know, I think actually the devil's 555 and he. And he deliberately told us it was all 666 so we wouldn't find. You know.
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Control issues, you know, like, it's just like, it's true. It's just like, sign here, sign here, sign here, take off your shoes. And then it's just like, you know, it's very. It can be militaristic and it's not fun, it's not sexy.
You know, See, I have the fun, sexy part.
Okay.
But I definitely want to control things sometimes. Working on it. Trust, flow, center, let go. That's why I wrote the song.
Well, there's higher ways to control.
Yes.
I think the best way is inspiration. Yeah, you inspire them. I mean, that's a sharing of the control. And I think that's the thing. The old school Capricorn didn't want to share power.
And my greatest awakening has come from releasing control and just surrendering and trusting the divine plan and seeing where it took me. And that's what led to my greatest metamorphosis.
Well, and you just went through a Pluto transit. So you were. After November 19, you were the least evolved. Wherever Pluto goes, you're the least evolved on the planet. So the Aquariuses are the least evolved. And I always joke about it. Can't have the Age of Aquarius without Aquarians. And they have been non participatory, standoffish ghost you if you don't go along with them. They haven't really been playing nicely on the playground and they're being kicked into play. So you go through that revolution, I think that you yourself chose strategically. I mean, your chart's very strategic because you decided to come in and do this whole Capricorn game. You played the whole game six lifetimes in one. Put all your chess pieces on that side of the board right when Pluto went through it. So it was like double coupon day for Capricorn.
I know. I was like, let's have the beginning of my life be the hardest time of it. Let's just knock it out and then we're good from here.
It's really smart. Yeah, it's really smart. Yeah.
Get some good character development.
It's smart. Yes. It's really just you guys handling business on a level. It's interesting because Capricorns have Aquarius in the second house, which means now the dumbest part of Capricorns. Dumbest, not fair word. But the most ignorant or the most left behind or the most archaic is the way they handle money. Right. Because that's finances, self worth, all that. So Capricorns are being forced now to make money from a higher vibration. There are other low vibration businesses aren't going to function. You're way ahead of the curve on that one again.
And I think all my Capricorn's in the second house. That's like my second house.
In the second house. You're like not only am I going to ace Capricorn, I'm ace in the next list at the same time.
Exactly.
It's very smart.
Yeah, exactly. All right, Aquarius for Shadow.
With all their talk of Kumbaya, where were you? They will be out there preaching about how we should get along. And they don't show up at your birthday party. They don't really participate. So it's all talk and no action. In a sense. That's where I think I feel dissed. And the fact that they'll just go cold on you is really hard. I mean, I've been heard so many times from Aquarius is just never calling me back again. And I don't know for what reason. I don't know why. So there's a real cold again. It's the other spectrum of Leo, Aquarius. So Leo's a love. And Aquarius is the far cold side of love. But it's being abused. This being totalitarian versus just maybe I'm not going to talk to you when you bring up this. So they have higher resolution of when they do that.
All right. Pisces.
Pisces is the shadow. They carry the shadow because they are the living of the shadow. And the reason is because the shadow lives in the soul. It lives in the spirit part of us. And Pisces are always plugged in the spirit, all the time. And so with Pisces, there's something dark. They're hiding. There's always something dark. They're hiding. Hiding from themselves maybe, but also hiding. So they have no problem just never mentioning they were in jail and had done that kind of thing. And so the dark side of them is them. They themselves have shadowed. They haven't resolved. Now I think that story's over.
Yeah. With Neptune sign, I feel a sadness.
Yeah, they haven't healed their sadness yet. Yeah, that's a good observation.
I noticed Pisces will have sad eyes often.
Yeah, kind of dopey, kind of like. Kind of. Yeah, they do have sad eyes. Well, they're sort of feeling all their pain in every lifetime expressed right now in this moment. So, yeah.
All right. Aries.
The dark side of Aries is going to pushing too hard, going too far, being too bossy, too pushy. Violence. Many cases, sexual assaults happen a lot with Aries energy. Not necessarily in Aries, but you might find that the person's Mars was in Aries or one of their planets was in Aries and that Aries energy was too aggressive and went too far and just much more volume than was necessary. This idea that we're going to show up with a nuclear bomb and just blow the hell out of you, that's an Aries. We're just going to blow you to kingdom come. That's an Aries thing, right? Were they raising their voice, Shouting, escalating it unnecessarily too soon? Those are sort of the things that keep me away from Aries. But they're changing now again, I'll say with the north node in Aries, Chiron in Aries right now, and now Saturn and, excuse me, Neptune and Saturn heading for them. They will be something completely different in the next eight years we've never seen before. What they're becoming are the peacekeepers. I mean, I think they're putting down their weapons and now they're going to police from a peacekeeping kind of mission is my guess.
All the Aries I know are healers.
Really. Huh. Interesting. Aries are all varieties. Because part about being an Aries is being whoever the hell you want to be. And so if they want it, they'll do it. And I continue, I'm surprised by what they do. Okay, so Taurus indulgence I think is probably the shadow. I mean, you might tell me, I mean, overconsumption over material having more than you need. For Taurus, it's like more than you need. And that's also like when you argue with the Taurus. I got it, got it. I don't need another metaphor. An example. Taurus is just like, no, no, I gotta say it five more times so you understand. And Real's like, no, honey, I understand the first time, you know, so Taurus is just sort of overdoing.
I've heard a Taurus say, okay, I got it. That's so funny.
Exactly.
Yeah, I feel like also just kind of lazy.
I think that's a scale of Taurus, in fairness, just like Scorpio the whore scale. I mean, the young. Interesting. So the 0 to 10 back to those decans, the bad reputation of the sign is always the first nine degrees. Those are the ones creating the bad reputation of the sign because they're juniors at it, they're making junior mistakes and that sort of thing. So, yeah, on that spectrum, it'll be the younger ones.
All right, Gemini.
That's interesting. Well, I think with Geminis actually intellectual manipulation, they're more interested in winning the argument than the principles behind it. So there's a little bit of a shallowness there over the word play. And sometimes using words to hurt, they can drop word bombs that are very painful.
I feel like they gossip a lot.
That too. They're also the potter. They'll start the gossip. They'll start that conversation. Introduce the idea. My son's a Gemini. And so it's like, yeah, he will tell my ex wife stuff about me. He will tell me stuff about. And I tell him, you're playing both sides. I know it. You tell me all this dirt on her. What have you been telling about her? What were you telling her about me? Kind of thing. So they do that. They sort of get the sparring going and get the fights going and just sit back and kind of enjoy the wordplay. Right.
All right, Leo.
Leo's a little tougher for me. I think one thing, if anything, they love everybody. They're not exclusive enough. So I think where they can sometimes go dark is that they have five lovers. They're serial lovers in the sense of that they love so much and love so many, they start to dilute the power of love. Sometimes they take it too far to where? Now princess number one is like, you call this love? How can I say that you love me when you love these seven other people? Now, I think Leos do love seven other people. But I think to some degree, Leos have Pisces in the eighth house. So Leo's shadow is all around sex. So it's all about secret love affairs. It kind of comes down to royalty stories where the king's having an affair and the queen's having an affair and they're all doing what they want. The very Leo energy in the sense of behind closed doors. It's behind closed doors, it's non official. And also using love as a manipulation tool. They definitely will do that. They'll turn on the love when they want something. They'll turn off the love and shut you off if you don't give them what they want. So the sunlight's going to go away. So I think there's a piece of power there too.
All right, Virgo.
Virgo will fix you till you're dead. I mean, their need for perfectionism ruins things. They keep fixing until they destroy it. They keep trying to make more touches. They're never satisfied. It makes people. They can be. I'm not saying all of them for all these. I'm not saying all of them. I'm saying when you start off as one and then later you learn to not do that. Virgos also have this hypochondria thing. It's just like, how many times are you going to get sick on us and make us all give you sympathy for how you're sick. As if there's that victimization. If they didn't have control, it's not their fault. This is the way life is because they rule reality. The hard part with Virgo is they haven't learned yet how to escape their own reality. They created because now they are in this lifetime.
I think I feel Virgo is quite controlling.
I think all the Earth signs are controlling because we want to make it stay the way it is or the way we want it. So you're a Capricorn. I mean, I guess we'll all come out of closet if we have any. We've seen one Virgo come up.
I find the difference is as a Capricorn, I'm really hard working. If I want to do something, I'll figure out how to do it. But I'm not organized at all. More just like putting all my power and energy into it. Whereas I see the Virgos are way more. They're like setting up the spreadsheet and so a lot of their energy is going into the organization rather than the action. Whereas I feel like us Capricorns often will just take messy action and just see how it goes totally and find.
A Virgo they can hire. You know, like, I mean Capricorns all have their Virgo assistants and their Virgo this and their Virgo that, you know. Agreed. Virgos just get off on finding that. You know, finding the junk under the, under the rock and cleaning it. There's something about. They just have satisfaction from it.
Yeah, I can't resonate with that, but I love it. Scorpio.
Well, Scorpios are pretty obvious in the sense of, you know, they can imprison people, you know, imprison people in. In terror, imprison people in husbands and wives, get imprisoned by Scorpio partners. When you hear these stories like Lifetime Television for women where he single handedly started to disconnect her from all of her friends and pull her away from all these things. And that is so Scorpio, where they just isolate you into their den where you're supposed to be completely satisfied with only them in life now. And that they're total solution. At the same time they say they have no insecurity about themselves at all. They are badass as far as they're concerned. You're the one that's the problem. You're the one that. So they're very like. They are the gaslighters, man. They play war dirty and they will cheat to win like they will. They'll play dirty at the end of the day. I mean the bad scrubbers that are hard, they will make that below the. They'll punch you below the belt, you know, and they feel justified. You know, the Scorpio stinger and everyone's had it before. It's like they will throw the God awful truth about you that they've never told you that they saw at the most inappropriate time in the most painful way. And it's like, oh my, you didn't even know that they saw that. They've been hiding it on a shelf waiting one day to kill you with this or one day to hurt you with this. That's the dark side of Scorpio. They fantasize, they'll tell me they fantasize about killing people. They fantasize about ending things. They have violent fantasies too. But I think that's again Scorpios that come from the dark ages. So I think that's changing.
Casual. All right, Sagittarius, in pursuit of knowledge.
We'll put put knowledge above humans. You know, like put travel above humans. We'll put, you know, to me they're whatever they're fascinated by. We're all supposed to give up what we want out of the equation because you're fascinated with seashells or something, you know, like so Sagittarius, so true.
Because that could be my shadow.
Okay.
I'm like ancient Egypt and that's like all I want to talk about.
Right.
So it makes sense. And that's my rising.
Totally. Yeah. And that's where they have been. I think again, like every, all these conversations we're having is we're really discussing the Dark ages version of them. And I do think they're all evolving in this life. We're going to see significant progress. But a Sagittarius is on some adventure. It's sort of like the Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones is sag. So it's like how many wives did he have? One in a couple scenes because his treasure was the most important thing. Go to the wayside of everything else that other people care about. So they end up leaving people behind all the time. I always say kiss the sag while you see them because they're not going to be here in five minutes. They're going to move on. And they're the ones that usually leave you behind in that sense in favor of whatever their adventure is or their learning path is.
I love this because I feel it is important to know our shadow. Not that, okay, we just said this is what the signs Are like, you're stuck with that. But rather, it's just know. Know the shadow side of ourselves in these different ways. And that way, when that's coming up, we. We can not operate from that place.
We can look forward and make sure it doesn't happen. Right. I think that's what we're doing now in this lifetime. I think this is the first lifetime where each of the. All the signs are starting to realize their bad reputations. And all of us, the other people who have to live with them, have all seen it too. It just doesn't work anymore. We're all bulletproof. When I see a SAG now, I'm like, I don't open up the commitment thing. I'm just like waiting for them to go. You're waiting for it to happen prepared. So that has. They've seen all different signs, have seen that, you know, their shift don't stink anymore, you know. And so as a result, we're calling each other on this stuff too.
And I think when it comes up, we can go to the opposite. So if as a Capricorn, I found myself, oh, yeah, I can be controlling now. How can I lean totally into surrender? Or if a Scorpio finds themselves like, yeah, I can be really secretive. Can I be more open and release my shame and really leaning into the opposite? And that's how we find our full balance and freedom.
I agree. And that's the same with the signs. So Scorpio is the dissector cutting things apart, dissembling bodies. I always say a Capricorn orders to death, but the Scorpio actually executes, actually pulls the sword or whatever. But at the same time, opposite of Scorpio is Taurus. And Taurus is all about taking those two parts and making them something greater. So if a Scorpio understands how to, after they cut it, rebuild it like Frankenstein is something better. And that's really what mastery of the sign is. When you learn to incorporate the other side of your sign, your opposite sign, into your operations of your sign. Now you're on a master path because you're understanding the full spectrum of the energy.
I love that. And before we finish off, I know with Pluto moving out of Capricorn, I've heard it's like Capricorns cancers. Who are the signs now that have been really affected by this? And what's this new energy that we're going into?
Well, Pluto in Capricorn, first of all, Capricorn controls everything. So actually, by Pluto going through Capricorn, we now all have a chance. The rest of us have a chance to be successful. Sorry, guys, but Capricorns are quickly investing in windmills and investing in clean energy. They're running to the new markets and trying to dominate those. So it's funny, Cancers were heavily affected by the Pluto Capricorn because if you know cancers, they latch on in a codependent way to their relationships because they use Capricorn in their relationships. So the cancers have never let go. I'll save them. They've had really dysfunctional dark relationships where they continue to love the narcissist and try to save them. So Geminis, for instance, have Capricorn in the eighth house. And Geminis have refused to change, refuse, refuse to change, refuse to try anything new in bed, refuse to wiggle at all. And so finally, they're being forced out of it. So wherever you have Capricorn in your sign, in your chart shows where every sign has been a Capricorn. We're all, all signs. We just apply it in different areas. Tauruses are know it alls because of Pluto. Capricorn. It's so funny, when I saw Pluto going through Capricorn, I'm like, I don't understand. Why am I supposed to learn? I was still like, I already know it. Like, I was still stuck in it. So my stuck in it was saying, I don't have a problem. So ultimately what it does is it changes the game of how things are controlled. The last time we did this was the American Revolution. American Revolution started with Pluto 27 degrees and ended with Pluto at 4 degrees Aquarius. So when you see a world, you just look at the model of there was one nation, Great Britain controlled all trade pretty much across the world. And once the United States could make its own rules, then you just have this proliferation of freedom that starts to happen. And you're going to see with Pluto in Aquarius, the thing is, people are going to feel very free. Let's look at the model next year for one. We've decided we're not going to let anything control us. So everyone is like, you're not controlling me, you're not controlling me. Right? And we're also being called on where we control. So suddenly everyone feels like they are free colonists, that they'll decide how they'll do it. Then Pluto in Aquarius says, be an individual, do it the way you want to. And that was the beginning of the United States of Virginia. Does it this way and they do it that way. So the beginning of the United States is all this Freedom of everyone could be who they wanted. Just you stay in your colony, I'll stay in my colony and we'll agree to get along. So suddenly the friction and blaming each other is over. Then you have Saturn and Neptune going into Aries, which means Saturn and Aries means. No, you need to really think about and decide and plan what you're going to do. There's no more kamikaze shock anything. So suddenly this ability to shock and awe is gone. You can't do that anymore. You can't shock or not anymore. It's going to be taken away piece by piece. And Neptune in Aries is going to say is going to have spirit whispering in your ear right before you make the mistake. So that's very interesting. So you could say that the whole world is going to have guides. The whole world is going to have. We already do, but didn't listen to them. But Neptune in that space means that here I am. I'm not going to be controlled by others. I'm going to be who I want to be. I'm going to think before I act. I'm going to plan before I act. Capricorn, I'm going to make plans before I act. So they're going to won't be accidents. The number of accidents are going to go down. And Neptune in Aries is going to say and did you know that you could actually do it over here? And just completely open the conversation and come out of these old ways of doing things? By abandoning the old ways of doing things, the control systems fall apart because you don't have everyone in line, everyone following things the way certain organizations want to do. And then Uranus in Gemini is also amazing because Gemini is like the way we think. We've always thought that men should be this and women should be that. We've always thought this. And Uranus is like, how about men, women? And he's throws in this weird third that just blows the conversation open. So suddenly our mental controls, media's controls over our minds, the mind control that has been in place from certain organizations doesn't work anymore, suddenly is exposed. Or someone builds a better one and then someone builds a better one. So you have this race for artificial intelligence. So we're going to grow, our intelligence is about to grow. Our ego's about to be tamed, controlled and spoke to by God. So it's a different planet. Which is why I don't feel like it's a doomsday at all. Because the core things that made us who we are and do Ugly things are basically expiring.
So look at where Capricorn is in your chart. People especially affected have main signs. Sun, moon, rising in Capricorn, Cancer, Gemini.
Yeah.
And then the Aries Libra.
Yeah, look, Aries Libra is being shorn up now as we speak. We're laying down the tracks. And then I think Saturn and Neptune then go in north node. Aries is sort of saying, you could have done it this way, you could have done that way. And now these planets move in there and say, okay, it's time to do it that way. It's time to do it that way. So I think we're going to see Aries, Libra and the Cardinals and Capricorn Cancer. Those four points have been inflexible and have shaped society for who knows how long. And now those are being rewritten. So look for those four in your chart and you'll see where your growth is. And Gemini is also important.
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Totally. And also, oh, I guess I'm not it. I guess we all are. You know, like, you realize you're not alone, that everyone is going through it one way or another. And. And it's predictable. That's the other thing. You can kind of predict what's gonna happen next. So you, you really calm down. I mean, our. In the first three months, our clients will. The first thing they always say is like, I'm really calmed down about my life. I'm no longer scared about the shoe dropping anymore. And that's just from the knowledge integration into daily life.
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