My First EVER YouTube LIVE!

Sandi L Boucher, an Anishinaabe practitioner and Indigenous engagement consultant, answers live questions about cultural appropriation, the Buffy Sainte-Marie controversy, and what non-Indigenous allies can actually do. She discusses harms from plastic shamans and paid ceremonies, and takes suggestions for future videos on residential schools and Indigenous hospitals.
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So I do believe I am live. And I do believe you can see cat butt. What a great way to start a live hello. Oh my God. Hi, everybody. Mishko Pognon Queen edition across Mungdo Dam. It's Sandy Boucher here and I'm seeing people in the chat, which is awesome. I gotta shout out here, Carol, you made it. That is awesome. I love it. Cloud Dragon Arts from. Oh, here I go again. Okay, forgive me, everyone. I'm from Canada, which means I'm not up on all the abbreviations of U. S. States. Western wa. Is that Washington? Washington's the state, right? Yes. Is that Washington state? Cloud Dragon Arts. You're going to have to tell me. Polar Vortex from Saskatchewan. Another Canadian. Tf. Hello. How are you? I don't know where you're from. Joanne from Vancouver Island. I'm gonna guess it's earlier in the day out there. Philip from Australia. We could have such a conversation. Amazing. Hello, Emica. Hello. Tf. Hello from Northwestern side of wa. There's that WA again. Is that Washington? Someone please tell me. Oh, okay. Juliana from wa. Carol, Hi. I am so thrilled you made it. Washington State. I guessed right. Yes. So I don't want to center anyone out. I realize a lot of us watch YouTube videos and don't necessarily subscribe. I'm wondering if any of you are subscribed subscribers or if you've seen a couple of my videos. Are you here by accident or have you seen some of my videos? St. Petersburg, Russia. Seriously? Northern Lines. That's amazing. A lot from Washington state. Do I have fans in Washington state? That's pretty amazing. Montreal. Yes. Cloud Dragon Arts. I thought I recognized your name. You're a subscriber. Subscriber. Thank you so much for subscribing. Carol. Yes. You're a new subscriber. I definitely remember interacting with you in the comment section. I love interacting with people in the comment section. You're a new subscriber too? Tj, that's amazing. So the reason I wanted to do this, it's awesome doing the comments back and forth, but I mean, sometimes you have questions or you wondered about things. Was there a video that really resonated with you or really surprised you with the information you learned? Bram Stair. I like your videos. I'm an artist at the beginning of the ranks to Riches story. I started out as an author. I know the story well. Phyllis from Edmonton watches all my videos. Learning so much. I love hearing that. Oh, Northern Minds. Yeah. So many people join my community after the whole Buffy St. Marie thing. Bluffy was the first. Okay, I like that nickname. It might be mean, but I like that nickname. Yeah, cool people on here. Yeah, I think so too. Found you through the Buffy scandal. But I had so. I have so many friends involved in truth and reconciliation. That is amazing. I've been in business. Like I said, I'm in my 15th year now. I was involved in truth and reconciliation long before I realized I was. I started working, except exclusively with First Nation communities. As Anishinaabe Kwe. As an Ojibwe woman. I just. I really wanted indigenous people to remember our strength, to remember our resilience, to remember the power of their teachings, whatever nation they were from. And then it was just a natural progression that it wasn't even my idea. A non indigenous for profit corporation reached out to me and asked me if I'd help with their indigenous engagement. In total honesty, I thought they called the wrong people at first. And they were the ones that said, well, if we want to learn how to work with indigenous people, kind of makes sense to us to ask indigenous people. The light bulb went on and that's the rest of the story. As you can say. What kind of art are you practicing? Bram, you got a fan here. Came up from Buffy for me too. I was so bummed because I loved Tanya Tagak and they performed together. You know what? Who was that? Tj. I thought of Tanya right away, too. Only because that song is on my playlist and I'd be willing to. I. I don't know for sure, but I'd be willing to bet there's quite a few indigenous artists that worked with her that are now doing what the right. Like my heart went out to her. White Swan environmentals. Shirley Williams of Lumi Nation work so hard for truth and reconciliation. They are trying to build a long house. Wow. That's amazing. I love any kind of indigenous resurgence and I know there's people out there. By the way, how many of you, if anyone saw my post or my podcast that did the bingo card. I've mentioned the bingo card quite a few times. There's a point. There's a reason I'm asking this, but if. Did any of you see the. The podcast episode about the bingo card? The inappropriate terms. Bingo card is what it is. See if any of you have seen it. Yes. Okay. The reason why. Are you ready for this, guys? I love my life so much. The bingo card was very enlightening. I am not kidding. Ten minutes ago, I had someone comment in one of my threads on one of my videos that I was pulling the race card. I was like, you didn't watch that video, did you? I was like, oh my God. Yeah, yeah. It it. Some people. Some people. And actually what got my attention. I try to catch all of the comments. This may be complicated but I would love to hear your views on any experiences with Central and South American Indigenous peoples. I have no experience with Central and South American Indigenous peoples. TF sorry. And on. Not that I'm not open to it and I would absolutely love that experience, but honestly. So what I speak to is like building core. You know when you're getting into physical fitness and they tell you you got to build up your core because that supports your spine and that's a huge focal point of your health and physical fitness. Your strength is your core. That's how I look at indigenous teachings and culture that I really promote that for indigenous people. We can't keep doing because what assimilation did to us is what colonizers do. Grabbing information from all over and that just leaves our youth especially incredibly confused. So I always promote work on your core first. Do your teachings, your culture, get comfy and confident in that and then you're able to experience and be exposed to all these other things and it doesn't confuse you anymore. It can actually add to your experience. But you need that core first. And I think honestly for non indigenous people, that's why they can look at other things. They know who they are. They're just adding to who they are. That is not the same for many Indigenous heard cowercy's chief cadmus speak about reconciliation. I recommend this TED Talk. Thank you so much for that. Hello to everyone's from South Wales in the uk. Amazing. My husband's Canadian from Brampton. Are you serious? I used to live in Brampton. I won't be able to hang around for the live chat. Just wanted to say good luck on your first live. Aren't you the sweetest individual ever. Lorraine, thank you so much. Named by white sets. Yeah. Okay. Monica, thank you so much for coming out. That's pretty amazing. I was talking about that guy that commented in the thread. It's 6:08am here Monday morning. Need to go to work. Philip, you're amazing. Thanks you for stopping in. Talk about dedication. Holy Moly's. I love it. I don't know about you guys. I'm always talking about through an indigenous lens here but if I had to identify and try to group together a group that has a serious issue with Indigenous empowerment or strong indigenous voices and I've said this A hundred times. This is not new. May not have said it in video. Definitely said it in the seminar and in my keynotes. Impoverished white. The non indigenous white people that are are struggling financially. And I honestly believe it is because they are struggling. They are impoverished. And they see our activists and our allies defending us. And no one's defending them. And if you think of the hierarchy that mainstream loves so much, they're seeing themselves at the bottom of this hierarchy and the only thing below them are the people they've racialized. Black people, indigenous people, newcomers. And they have to adamantly turn against us because they don't want to fall below us on this hierarchy ladder they're living by. Which makes absolutely no sense to me as Anishinaabe Kwe. Because we sit in the circle. I don't see myself as better than anyone. I don't see anyone as worse than me either. So yeah, that makes no sense to me. Didn't Denise. Dennis. Dennis. I don't know. I'm probably massacring your name. Sorry, but that's a really cool name. Nova Scotia. Greetings from central Saskatchewan, homeland of the Metis. Hello, Brian. How are you? Pa? Is that Pennsylvania? Here I go with us States again. Very good observation about impoverished non indigenous people. Thank you, Katherine. So here's. I don't know if you guys like my mom's teachings. I kind of hope you do. But here's another one that so benefits me when I do this work or I see those kind of comments in my thread. My mom used to tell me that when someone says something and the voice in your head goes what? Like where did that come from? Like. Like what? That you gotta imagine. You gotta ask yourself, how scared would I have to be, how overwhelmed would I have to be, how isolated would I have to be to believe something like that? So when I see non indigenous impoverished people fighting so desperately to be relevant, I find it. Even though they say the most God awful things, I just find it impossible to hate them because I totally understand where they're coming from. I don't think they're attacking the right people. You know, marginalized turning on marginalized doesn't work. But they're not seeing anyone fight for them. And. And I get that. I totally get that what brought you here was Buffy Saint Marie. Yeah. And you know what? I've had a few people. This has been such an unpacking journey for me as an Anishinaabe quake. I would love to hear if it's been an unpacking journey for other people because I'm getting called out now for mentioning Buffy St. Marie. Let it go. You're trying to capitalize on her name. And it's like, no, actually, this is not where I make my income, thank you very much. But it's almost like. Like I. There's a video coming up this week about the teaching, the traditional teaching that this whole Buffy thing reminded me of. That's what I'm talking about unpacking. So I'm not dwelling, I'm not refusing to let it go. I'm not wanting to capitalize. That's why I got to keep mentioning her name. It's the process of learning from it and the grieving that started in the beginning and going through that healing process. I think just my opinion might be totally biased, but I think non Indigenous people would be a lot healthier if they learned how to do that process. It is very ingrained to Anishinaabe people to go through that unpacking. I think a lot of people are suffering a lot more than they should because they've never been taught that. Bram Styer. Not trying to discuss more, but should we have some of the three repeats of the national or CTV covering communities at least once a month? You cannot care about people you never see or hear and even know. I totally understand your point. So there's. Here's Unpacking to the Nines one, CBC Radio. If there's one thing I absolutely love about them, I don't know if this is across the country, but here, at least when they list off the weather and, you know, they're naming the municipalities as they say the weather, they will list first nation communities the same way they list non Indigenous municipalities. So they make our communities part of the norm. So I absolutely love that. The flip side, having the national and CTV covering our communities is one culture covering another. The lens coming in. I think you would have a greater chance of really learning what was going on for us by watching aptn, which is the Aboriginal People's Television Network. So that's Indigenous people covering and talking about Indigenous issues. So I think that would be the way to go. I'm pretty sure they have a YouTube channel. I think I just found it the other night. I love your mom's teachings and getting your motivation in my inbox. You were on my motivational mentorship list. I love it. Monica. Well, Buffy capitalized on others first. Okay, so that's funny, amica. That's what I got accused of just before I got on Live Stream. The guy that accused me of pulling the race card, he Said? What did he say? You can't get mad at Buffy for capitalizing on being indigenous because all indigenous capitalize on being indigenous. He has an issue with our four and five dollars a year is his point. So I mean, that's. That is his to unpack. To do this work, I've had to really get good at what is not my circus, what is not my monkeys. I agree with you. It's good to discuss and share our feelings. Right? Right. And that's literally what I'm doing is unpacking. And thank you for that, tj. I'm hoping that if anyone's struggling that by watching my videos, maybe they can start doing that process for themselves. Right. Love you and your insights. Little River Band of Adawa Elder here, Alexis. Thank you so much. Okay, I'm just gonna put this out there for the non indigenous people. I don't care what kind of accolades I get or how big my audiences is. When an elder says that they like your work, you know you're on the right path. Thank you so much, Alexis. Never take that for granted. Yes, APTN is on YouTube. Great. I highly suggest everybody you should subscribe. I'm using paint that I mix myself now. Started out as just acrylic. Oh, Bram's telling us about her art. I do watch AP10 as well. Yes, they have YouTube and some people never will. Okay, so you gotta watch a video. I do next week. I. This is terrible. I can't remember the name of my own video. You know what? I can cheat and look at it on my other monitor. What is it called? Oh, I didn't upload it yet. You're going to recognize it because the thumbnail has this like drawing of people on a wall. That's the email you gotta watch or the video you're gonna watch that talks about the people that will and won't watch things like that and how we need to approach that. Bram's here. I will learn more from you that the cbc probably on most stuff except the weather. Not even touching that one. I am not saying you're wrong, Just leaving that there. I have a question for you guys. Maybe you know the answer, maybe you don't, but is there anything you would love to learn more about or a question you would like to ask? And I'm not necessarily meaning we have to discuss it today, but I'm looking at future videos. Videos. Is there something you would like me to touch on or expand on? What, what, what. What would fit into that criteria? Let's see how many times I Can say what in one face or one YouTube Live. By the way, this is not bad. This literally is my first ever YouTube live. And a thought. I don't know. This could get crazy. I honestly thought there was a chance I might end up sitting here by myself. So I love every single one of you for showing up. Thank you so much. I do have the ability to talk to myself, but I'm really glad I didn't have to. Just some advice. If you keep doing lives, make sure to have mods. You never know what people will post in chat. Thank you, tf. I actually saw that. Welcome to my world. I am literally one of those jump in with two feet and see what happens. After I had already told people I was doing the live, I saw the recommendations for having a moderator. I was like, oops, I should definitely do that. So I will definitely do that next time. Thank you so, so much. This is awesome. Great group in here, tj, isn't it? And you know what? Thank you for saying that, TJ. Because that is exactly how I feel about the YouTube community. I've found since all of you found me, since the whole Buffy thing hit the fan, I've just been able to interact with the most amazing people. Whether they were familiar with the topics or so many just asking respectful questions. You guys. I've said it a hundred times. You guys don't realize you are my fuel. I can keep doing my work because I get to interact with people like you. And I know I meet those people in seminar now I can talk to you guys every day. And that's just amazing. I would love to know what you think of plastic shamans. White wealthy folks who cospay making their drums and charging for shamonic drumming sessions. Can you guess what my response is? Okay, so here's a rule. And next week I talk about some like guiding principles to keep yourself away from cultural appropriation. If someone is charging for anything traditional, a ceremony or teachings. My teachings are part of my seminars, but I do not charge for the teachings itself. It actually goes against our teachings. You're not allowed to charge for those things. That goes against everything. So when it has a charge, you know, like pretending I would stay clear of it. I think it's absolutely sickening that someone. There's two other points that someone would pretend. I can't remember where it was, and this is years ago and I might get this wrong. I want to say Texas, but it was like somewhere in the southern us. I'm going to guess one of those type of fake shamans. Things and they were doing like a sweat launch, but. So I should have put that in air quotes because it wasn't a sweat lodge at all. But that's how they were promoting it. And they actually use like plastic to make the event and like to make the structure. And people actually died because you have, like smoke in there. It was. That's what happens when fake people do things. I did want to touch on the drum making for a second and this. I know a whole bunch of indigenous people are not going to agree with me on this. That's okay. We all have the right to our feelings. A drum is a sacred item. You should not be able just to go to a workshop and make one like it's a craft project. In the same way that making a dream catcher has now been reduced to a craft project. I am not saying that you shouldn't have a hand drum. I am saying there are teachings that go with that and there's a process to respect that. And we can't mainstream it and get to the end game really quickly and forget the teachings because then all you have is, is a craft project. And. And that's. Yeah, I have a problem with that. Oh, Phyllis, thank you so much. Awesome, Catherine. How as a non indigenous person, I can work towards reconciliation. What an amazing question, Catherine. Okay, first and foremost, let's start with we need you. We need our allies. I love the way you phrase that, by the way, because I still run into way too many non indigenous people that want to go into the communities to help us. And that's way too close to the whole save the Indian mentality that got us in trouble in the first place. If you think of the Eagle Feather teaching and each side of the Eagle Feather represent. One side represents you, the other side represents whoever you're talking to or working with. It could be your partner, your child, or your co worker. If you think of the Eagle Feather as indigenous and non indigenous, all of the attacks towards indigenous people are coming from the non indigenous side. We need our allies more than anything to be doing the work on that side of the feather. If you go into an event and there are no indigenous people there, simply ask the event organizer, why not? Do not speak for us. You don't need to make a big kerfuffle. But just ask the question. They may not have even considered it before. When DEI events, right, they often think of everyone but indigenous people. It's look for us. And if you can't find us, ask someone. Because the truth is, even in 2023, our non indigenous allies are still getting into rooms that we can't. If you have. I always say if you have white privilege, for one, you didn't ask for it, so feeling bad about it makes no sense. But if you have it, you need to use it to help the people that don't. Which means hold open the door for us so we can get in and say what we need to say. We are not asking you to speak for us. I would never put anyone in that position. But someone needs to point out that we're not in the room so that we can get in the room. Robert Hamlin, so very happy I came across your podcast. Hi, Robert, how are you? I hope you're doing well. Alexis. Inspirational and so informative. Thank you, Alexis. I so appreciate that. Polar vertex. Emeka, I'm white and that really bugs me too. So fake, right? It's that. And I talk about that a lot in my videos. That extraction mentality, I really like the way they do that. That ceremony. I think I want to do that. So I'm going to create a group and I'm going to tell people I know how to do this and I'm going to charge them. Can you say cultural appropriation? Can you say disgusting? That is just so wrong. Emeka, I thought you would say that. Unfortunately, I know a couple women like that. What could I tell them so they understand what they do is very wrong? Okay, amica, I'm actually going to come at that a little bit different. I do want you to talk to those women that are attracted to these. I think you use the phrase plastic shamans, but I want you to do it out of total and complete concern. Because unfortunately, the customer base of these people tends to be vulnerable. Often women, but not just women. Vulnerable people that are lost, that are looking for healing, that are looking for some kind of direction, they're not in a strong place, not even a strong enough place to ask the questions. So you know what, you can even name. Drop my name and say that I am like seriously worried about them because I would love them to get the support that they need. And that's not paying someone to do that. Right. That's not how they get the support they need. So just really. It's not about judgment. That's. I really try to stay away from that. So it's not about judging the shaman. It's about protecting the people they are trying to reach. Yes. People died in that incident. The traditional ceremonies are sacred. Monetary reward for ceremony is blasphemous. 110%. Brian, the other thing I have an issue with is complete and total strangers coming up and asking me like how to smudge. That's the example I'm using. It's usually worse than that. That is like walking up to a complete stranger and asking them their most personal memory or thought. And I'm just supposed to share this with someone like relationship first. If we end up in a relationship, a friendship, a co working arrangement, whatever it is, you're going to learn things. But that extraction or asking those kind of questions, that is so uncomfortable. I love your explanation of unpacking. Works great with survivors of domestic and sexual violence and how you teach non indigenous to be better. I allies more please. Thank you so much, Monica. For the record, I am a 10 year domestic abuse survivor, so the crossover really doesn't surprise me. You remember the sweat lodge incident? Honest, this sounds horrible and I'm gonna own this, but when I heard about that sweat lunch incident and I. I am the eternal optimist. I am. I have to be. Or I couldn't do my work. But it's a natural thing for me. When I heard about that sweat lodge incident, I just thought, please let this be the example they need so that no other person gets hurt. Please let them learn from this didn't happen. I was kind of hoping the same thing with the whole Buffy thing. Like please let us take this lesson and ask good questions, respectful questions, but let's learn. Catherine Smith. What about monetary gifts to non indigenous persons who lead indigenous ceremonies? Excuse me? They claim they have been adopted by indigenous tribe and have been taught the teachings. Can I swear on a YouTube live I won't BS Catherine. BS adoption does not change your worldview. So even I use the telephone game analogy. Remember? Remember how as kids you'd sit in the circle and one person whispers one sentence into someone's ear and it goes around the circle. By the time you get to the end, it doesn't sound anything like the original sentence. That is what happens when our teachings go through the cultural lens and vocabulary of a non indigenous person. Everyone hearing is not hearing authentic indigenous teachings. They are hearing the non indigenous interpretation of an indigenous teaching. And no humility teaching there. None like why you know what that is? Or I would say that's ego. That is pure ego. I get to do this because I've had this experience and you should listen to me. No hard pass. No, I. It's not even the monetary gifts part, Catherine. It's that they shouldn't be doing it anyways like we got. And that's My work educating non indigenous Canadians on who they should and shouldn't be hiring and should and shouldn't be paying and it should not be. I don't care what version of a non indigenous person. You should never be the indigenous voice unless you're indigenous. Don't care if you're adopted or not. Oh, get all passionate on your butt now. Sorry about that, guys. Bram Stayer languages. How close or different are they? If they are geographically near, I'd love to learn the source or of your names. It's so boss. My dad worked with Inui. Brought us real soapstone carved by. Anyway, that's pretty amazing. Dialects are a thing. So even though your nation may be close to another, like I can think. For example, I'm in northern Ontario, Canada, so Cree is just north of us. And a lot of Ojibwe here, they were so close. Different, but so close that a third language came out of it that is now known as OG Cree, which is a combination of the two. If you speak OG Cree, you can get by in either Ojibwe or Cree. It's close enough. It's not going to be the exact dialect, but the dialects are very much different. I'm from Treaty 3 area which is west of here. I'm in the 1850 Robinson Superior Treaty area. The Ojibwe spoken here and the Ojibwe spoken in my nation are different. So it's very different. I was thinking about this. Since Indian is offensive, should it be pretend? Pretend Indigenous tf It's pretending because it's offensive. Do you understand the point? Indian is offensive and pretending is offensive. That's why we're saying pretending that they don't get the right to be indigenous. It's. It's keeping it in that derogatory realm. Thank you so much for your insight. You are most welcome. Yeah, Catherine, that I'd be pushing back on that one hard. And it is hard. Like I don't know if you guys saw the video I called out my ex husband last week for in a video for being pretending. And I know he is. I've been telling people personally for years. And it was amazing how many people wanted to paint me as the scorned ex wife. You know what the best thing that boy did was walk out the door. So no hard pass on that. But he's hurting people like pretendions do because vulnerable people are going to him. As I shared in the video, we met because he was running a healing circle which he had no right to do. It was because. Because he was pretending to be indigenous and I was one of the people attending it, trying to get over the crash and burn of my marriage. Complete and total vulnerability. That's why pretend Ians are dangerous. But if we're going to keep crucifying people for calling people out or asking the questions, then the pretendians are going to continue. That's scary. I think you can swear on YouTube. Oh, Emily D. Baker. I love watching her. She's amazing. And she has cursed words. Yes. I'm a big fan of the cursy words. That's true. That is totally true. I always try and my mom reaching down and smacking me if I do. I'm always trying to be conscious of who my audience is. And that's why when I talk about something safe spaces like my business started on my Facebook page. I have elders that follow my Facebook page. I have young indigenous men and women that follow my Facebook page. I'm not going to speak like that out of respect for them. Not because I don't. Let's not paint a picture here that doesn't apply, but out of respect for them. So. But thank you for that point. I love that cursy words. If a non indigenous group approaches an indigenous person to provide education, I. E. A subject like the environment is a donation to a charity institution, a choice by the teacher preferred. Okay, Lena, Guiding principle on that. Every single person is going to have a different answer for you. And the only answer you need is is from the person you're working with. And the next person you work with, you're going to have to ask that question again. So there is no difference. The one thing I would advise against, because that's where it's going to be seen as derogatory, is don't make the decision for them. Non indigenous deciding that indigenous don't get the money. It should be a donation on their behalf. That comes across as paternal. It comes across as that controlling white supremacy. We're going to decide what you're going to do. That would be all bad. So ask them. They get to decide. Keeping in mind that there is value to that worldview, value to what they're going to share and so compensating them for that makes sense. You can't respect the teachings if you don't show that those teachings are valuable. Just throwing that out there, Nikki. Last I was adopted into a white family and my adopted mother's cousin is a pretending college professor. Wow. Nikki. Oh, okay. So. Whoa. So, Nikki, I'm going to assume you're indigenous even though you were adopted. So you had the white influence, but it doesn't change who you are. But your, oh, your adopted mother's cousin. So your adopted mother is white. Her cousin is therefore white. We don't know about the rest of the family tree, but that's what you're telling me, so I'm going to believe you. And she's a pretending college professor. I wouldn't ask you to share this on a live Nikki, because I mean this is personal to you, but holy crap, I would love to hear how that affects you. Like thank you miss Rockets and cursing might get you demonetized. Yeah, it would. Polar. They ask us to rate our videos. That would definitely be Ms. Rocket. So very right. Thank you. Can you speak on your opinion on just. Oh, you know what, tf, thank you for asking me this. Can you speak on your opinion on Justin Trudeau's handling or lack of handling of first nations issues? Before I answer the question, I'm going to give you the background on why I have an opinion. So everyone knows I'm 59 years old, started working when I was 20 for like 30 plus years. Before I started my own business, I worked in Indigenous employment and training, which meant it was a non profit, federally funded entities. I worked at several and we focused on helping indigenous people go back to school, find a new job or start their own business. Over that 30 year span, every single one of the Canadian political parties, let's keep in mind none of these political parties represent first nations people or Indigenous Peoples. They say they do, but we are the ones they negotiate with. When it comes down to what Canada wants and what Indigenous people want, they are Canadian political parties, crystal clear on that one. Every single one of the parties has broken promises to first nations people. I'm going to speak from a First Nation perspective because that's my perspective. But when you come down to budget dollars, putting your money where your mouth is and supporting Indigenous initiatives, Liberals have always been the ones that give the most money to Indigenous initiatives. So do. Am I a big Justin Trudeau fan? No, absolutely not. Having said that, the Conservatives are the worst for Indigenous people. It was Mulroney that made it took the protections off all our lakes and rivers, which is hugely important to Indigenous people. He's also the one that made it possible to sell a reserve. Do you want to use your passport to cross Canada? That's the Conservatives. So again, I am not saying Liberals are all that in a bag of chips, but when it comes to the budgets that we so desperately need to get on our feet and get past all these challenges. The liberals have always funded first nations people to higher levels than any of the other parties. So there's my rant. Did it. I cannot see other people comments. Oh, am I the only one that can see other of the comments? Interesting. Nikki, last you were shocked. You know what Nikki, all kidding aside here, my heart goes out to you. I can't. I can't even. I. I just can't that I don't know how old you are. I can tell you the older get, the gutsier you get. Maybe there's going to come a time that you're going to call that person out and you know what. Did you mention they were at a. Oh, at a college. Right. I. That's what I mentioned in my video. Colleges and universities, they want. Well, they say I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. They want to up their indigenous engagement game. They want to learn more about indigenous people. But their hiring practices are playing against them. They want all these criteria as colonial criteria. You got to have a master's or whatever it is and then the person they end up hiring 90%. I'm not going to go with percentages. I don't know percentages, high rate of pretendions or an indigenous person with a huge colonial influence. Why do you keep hiring people that have qual your qualifications and not the qualifications of the people you want to work with? Hire someone that knows the indigenous person you want to connect with. That's the qualifications you need. Not if they can function in your structure. Adjust your structure. That one makes no sense to me. Everyone go up to the top and click on live chat. Oh, is that, is that when they'll be able to see the comments? Nikki, if that's true, I love you to death for sharing that because I didn't even know that. Yeah, make sure it's on live chat, not top chat on the drop down menu. There you go guys. Thank you for that. I can share that next time. Live chat, not top chat. Okay. Awesome. He fixed it. Yes. An indigenous political party to try and wrestle the billion dollars worth of compensation that pays lawyers first. Lawyer Pamela is very busy. Quebec thinks they are a distinct society. Do not even get me started on distinct society. So I'm going to touch on that one for a sec. Hang on, hang on. Yes. I have my magic wand. I have my magic wand. I have long trip. This is never going to happen. But I can dream. I can wave my magic wand. Hi River. Imagine the House of Commons and how non indigenous Canadians elect their Representatives, go ahead and stay with your present system. But that is not our system. What a lot of people don't realize is we have a corresponding political system. The AFN is our assembly of first nations is our federal equivalent. We have treaty areas and treaty organizations because we don't have provinces, we have treaty areas. So Nishna Biaski Nation is a treaty area and NAN is the organization that looks after that area. Grand Council. Treaty 3 is the political entity that looks after Treaty 3 where I'm from. So that's the political or the provincial equivalent. And then of course we have chief and councils, same as municipalities and, and mayors and councils. So what was my point? Oh, House of Commons. So you have all the non indigenous people in there elected whatever way Canada wants to elect them. Not my side of the feather. But on the indigenous side, if we want to appoint someone to represent our nation, we decide how they're elected. And the nations should have equal representation. Another political party or not even a party, because I'm not the whole toe the party lines. I would rather they were all independent. But they're. They're representing whatever region or nation sent them there. You hear indigenous people say all the time we want to be at the table. We want to be at the table. That's what they're talking about. Don't come to us with a solution already. Don't come to us after you've discussed it for a year. We want to be on the discussion. So you save a lot of time because we can tell you what's going to work and not going to work in our communities at the beginning. So I would love to see that. I'd love to see way more headdresses in the House of Commons like we did during the official apology. Polar vortex. Seems to me that society in general needs to learn much more about the effects of the residential school system. I agree. Polar. You know what? I have my handy dandy index cards and I could explain that to you right now, but I think there's visuals that go with it when I talk about that in seminar. I think that would be an excellent video. So, whoops, make my pen work here. I am going to write that down because that definitely needs to be a future video. Residential schools. Thank you very much for that, Brian. Yeah, I'm older. That's adorable. I love that. CBP Equine Services joining late from Manitoba. Great speaker. Thank you for your contribution. Well said. Thank you so much. I've been doing this for 15 years and you know what I was thinking about it this morning. This is the part I love about my job when I go do a seminar or a keynote. Yeah, I enjoy doing the keynote and letting people know things they didn't know before. But. But I love the question and answers at the end. That's my favorite part. I have. I envision things. I manifest things, if that's the way you want to put it. And I would love to do one of those events, you know, where you have the interviewer sitting next to whoever the guest speaker is, and it's just that dialogue back and forth. I've never done that. I just think that would be epic, just throwing that out there. Joanne, I'm interested in a future video that addresses the indigenous hospitals. Whoa. Okay. I'm writing that down. And I reacted that way only because, well, I have a different story about the indigenous hospitals. Indian hospitals, they were. Yeah, I realized the issue huge. I realize how many people were hurt and continue with that generational trauma. And there's another side to the feather, and that's the one that I experienced. So. But thank you for that. I will definitely, definitely consider that. Holy moly. How did 50 minutes go by already? You know what? I seriously, I don't know if you guys saw the video where I talked about my kitchen table and how when I was growing up, if, you know, someone had an issue, they knew to come and sit at my mom's kitchen table and they'd have a conversation. My mom was a master at getting them to laugh and. And by the end, maybe they hadn't solved their problem, but they definitely believe they could. They felt better. And I've always approached my work, whether it was like a live seminar or keynote or my videos, like, I'm sitting with someone at my kitchen table and we've just had the most epic 50 minute conversation. So that's pretty amazing. Thank you for that. D. Allen, there's little doubt that Buffy lied. But you. Have you considered the wrong side of the blanket possibility? Her bio made me wonder years ago, if the indigenous mailman said hired her, would that matter? Of course it would matter. I don't agree. That's what happened. I watched the fifth Estate episode. Well, and, you know, I can't remember her name. The first woman. She's in the fifth Estate episode. And she talks about how when she started to hear Buffy's story, all the bells went off because it sounded like the story's pretty pretend Ians tell. And that's exactly what happened to me. Now, I went into watching the fifth Estate video or the episode As a huge Buffy fan, I thought Buffy was under attack, and I'm ready to defend her. And that's where I came from. And I got knocked down hard. The problem with this is people are so desperately trying to find an excuse for her that it empowers pretendience. Everyone thinks we should just call them out. No one believes us when we do. Especially someone like Buffy had the advantage of no Internet. The reason why this is so hard for someone is that she's been around for so freaking long. But it was incredibly. It was. Look what her brother was doing. He had to write to newspapers to try to. To offset this story. He tried. And people don't believe him. Right. So. And. And her family would know. I'm sorry. You know, when you come home with a baby, there's a difference between having a baby and a baby showing up. There's just. I don't believe it's the wrong side of the blanket. I don't like the fact that her story has changed so much through the years. I don't see transparency. I don't see humility. I don't see so many things that would make her story. And trust me, I went into it wanting to believe her, and it's not there. Oh, Bram. Good. Awesome. Love that you share from the heart, Sandy. Tj. I'm so glad that's okay with you. There's a lot of people that really don't like that. I do that. Ready to rise. Get the evidence before calling it an investigation and make it real for female gender aspiring to be investigators. I don't even know what that means. Ready to rise. And I'm not sure how female gender got into that, but if that's a transphobic comment, I want to be crystal clear. Not welcome here. I saw way too many of those, and they're gross. So just let me be clear. I'm. Yes, Bram Kim. Tall bear. That's who I was talking about. Ready to rise. If I misinterpreted that. I'm open to understanding that or changing that, but I just want to be crystal clear on transphobic comments. Could have waited patiently for Buff to come over and go right for evidence. I don't know what that means either. Beverly. Not sure. That's it. You're right. It empowers the pretendience. The other thing here. We need this on billboards all over the country. Silence empowers the oppressor. Always. So if you see an injustice, the people that wanted to be allies. If you see something that's problematic and you don't say anything. You are empowering the oppressors. It makes never helps the marginalized. Never. Which is why any about Buffy. Wrong side. The power is going to the wrong side. Let us handle this is what we got to put out there. Buffy pretended big time, no Internet, but she had a pot family to copy. And you know what? They adopted her. That doesn't make her indigenous. It really creeps me out that they happen to be grieving at the time too. That's just scary, right? But like I said in one of my comments, I've been adopted by so many different families from so many different backgrounds. That doesn't change who I am. It just shows who I'm accepted by. So that's not something to brag about or to claim. That is something to honor and cherish and be grateful for. I watched Buffy's video first. Then I saw the Fifth Estate and I was like, oh, well. Nope. Her story is not the real truth. Nikki, I love you, girl. Don't know you, but I love you. Exact same thing. I did exactly the same thing. Carol Fraz learning so much from you. You know what? Every time I say your last name. Carol. We had. I come from a very, very small northern Ontario town and we had Fraz in our town. Might be a connection there. DNA could clarify everything. I don't agree. I think way too many people are coming down on that. But we already know, depending on which company you go through, they're not the greatest at coming up with cultural identities. So it's not as black and white as people like to think it is. Ready to rise. You're actually trans. Okay, well, that's good to hear. So I'm going to assume you're not doing an anti trans comment. That's excellent. Way to go. Thank you. We'll tune in again. Thank you so much. Yeah, I gotta watch the time here. Kim Tall Bear was Amazing in the Fifth Estate episode 110% agree. Professional, knowledgeable and factually correct. Had to repute the evidence as presented. And you notice people aren't standing mind by her. She's educated in colonial degrees and still not believed. Welcome to life as indigenous from a Latino perspective. Most Latinos don't know what the indigenous background is for sure and want to know. So to me, Buffy makes fun of that. I agree with you. I totally agree with you. What is the best way to be an allyship around the Buffy issue? Let the indigenous sort it out. I would let us argue about it. I really wouldn't put yourself in the middle of that. Great question, though. I know you said not to ask an indigenous person about Buffy, but I have already asked before. I saw your video. And he was okay with it. He said, if you like her, you like her. If you don't, you don't. Yeah, I don't think it's about. The issue was not whether you like her. I'm not asking anyone to hate Buffy. I'm saying she's a Pretendian. So don't love her because she's Indigenous. Right. And if you still want to follow her, that's. That's not my. Not my circus, not my monkeys. Getting down to the last few minutes here. Feel very bad for her fans. Saskatchewan is not really sensible to adopt your own daughter. It's totally insulting. And anyone who knows a child molester is living in impunity, blackmailing instead. Seriously, like, why? Yeah, that mess. Like, why didn't that come out beforehand? Why did she have to wait to use it as blackmail? Unless she knew she needed something to use as blackmail. Just putting it out there. A reputable Canadian broadcaster stands by Buffy Beverly. As a Canadian, I find his stand for lies and dishonesty disheartening. And I stand by the fact that I think a lot of people need her to be Canadian or indigenous or both. Because they want. Don't want to deal with what that means for them if they accept she isn't. Lot unpacking here. I missed so much of your live show. I hope you do this again. I will definitely do this again. Brian Reynoldson, on an aside, thought, I wonder how indigenous people felt when Gray Owl was exposed as a free fraud. Even though he did a lot for conservation. I actually watched a documentary on him. That guy. Okay. He made it really clear he was in it for the money. Right. No matter what he did through his life, he was in it for the money. I think that was such an opportunity missed because he became. He was a settler. Settler descendant who became. Who started valuing the bush, the trees, the water. And I think if he had done that as a settler and shown that people could change, that could have been so powerful. But instead, he went for the facade. He's a great conservation concert. Conservationist, whatever that is. I never get that word right. He's also a pretendian. And the whole fake feather, that was disgusting. Disgusting. Jacqueline Ker was the woman in the fifth estate doc that tracked down Buffy's birth certificate. Yes, quite the opposite. You can still love Buffy and acknowledge that she lied. Differentiate between the art and the artist. Yes and no. On that one. I Don't. Because look at her art. I mean, there's definitely indigenous influence in her art. The way she. She dresses. Yeah. I see so much cultural appropriation in that. It's funny. It's a YouTube version of my name. Oh, okay. Well, that's kind of cool. Adoption is about relationship, not status. Thank you. Thank you. He was okay with her actions. I was puzzled. He says she's 80 years old. She's been doing it for so long. I didn't argue with them, even though I was surprised. I have to go here because it's three o', clock, but I'm going to make this one last comment. I've seen way too many people use their age as an excuse and I'm going to get really dramatic here. I apologize for that. But no one had an issue and they shouldn't have had an issue. I want to be. I'm going to get crucified for this. But think of the Nazi war criminals. By the time we caught them, they were way old men. Who cares? It's their crimes. And I'm not saying that what Buffy did is anywhere close. But her age has nothing to do with this. The fact that she lied this long is the reason she's 80. Why didn't she come clean in her earlier years once she had a career and everyone loved her anyways? Come clean. She made this bed. Totally made this bed. Can DNA show who your blood relatives are? Yes. So in the case of Buffy Saint Marie, the DNA would show if she was really related to her so called adopted family. I would love to see that. The indigenous side would get iffy. I gotta go, guys. You are absolutely flipping amazing. Thank you for making my first YouTube live, like the best experience ever. And I'm thinking we need to do this again. Okay. You take care. I love you so much. Bye. Bye.
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