Peterson Interview of Pollieve - Part One

This is a reaction/commentary video by Sandi L. Boucher watching Jordan Peterson's interview with Pierre Polievre. Boucher (Seine River First Nation) watches the interview live, offers real-time reactions and critiques—highlighting Polievre's economic claims, his touring schedule (about 600 events), Peterson's apparent support for Polievre, and noting the interview's reach (millions of views). The piece mixes transcript excerpts from Peterson and Polievre with Boucher’s personal commentary and questions.
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Hello, you absolutely amazing person, you. It's Andy Boucher here once again. Mishko Paganan queen and Red Thunderbolt, woman of the Loon clan. A proud member of Seine River First Nation in Treaty 3 Territory in Northern Ontario. And we're about to go on an interesting road trip together. Metaphorically. Metaphorically, of course. I mentioned a few times the Jordan Peterson interview appear pollyv and I thought, wouldn't it be fun to watch it together? So you're not just hearing about my reaction, you're going to see my reaction. I've been told that anything I'm thinking shows up on my face. So this should be entertaining. I literally have not seen it. I am watching it with you. So just an FYI, Jordan Peterson is an author and he used to be a professor at the University of Toronto. He came under some backfire. I just want to see my little clip here. I saved it. It was, oh, 20, 22. I thought it was later than that. So Elliot Page, he came under fire. He got. Jordan Peterson got kicked off Twitter because he used Elliot Page's dead name and he actually referred. So Elliot Page transgendered and he actually referred to Elliot's physician as a criminal for having done the gender assignment surgery, I believe it's called. So he obviously has a issue with trans people, but whatever. Anyways, and we all know I have issues with Pierre Poliev. So yeah, my anxiety is definitely going to come through on this, but I think it's going to be neat. I have never done this before. So let's do this together. Let's talk about it. Okay, so, hello, you absolutely amazing person, you. We're gonna try this one more time. I'm doing a screen recording and commentary feedback on the Jordan Peterson interview with Pierre pov. I gave you an idea of who Jordan Peterson Peterson was in the clip at the beginning. I know. Now I have. I'm re recording this first 10 minutes, so I do know what they're gonna say in the first 10 minutes. The rest of it I haven't seen. I'm hoping that the sound quality will be a whole lot better this time than the first time I attempted this. I couldn't release it to you the first time. You would have killed me for going up and down with your volume. But anyways, this is going to be entertaining. Let's get started.
You take the total business investment of the United States divided by the total number of workers in America, 28 grand. In Canada, it's 15 grand. The Canadian worker gets what, 55 cents for every dollar of his American.
If you had told me, I would have spent any amount of any day hanging out with Jordan Peterson and beautiful or poie of, I would have told you you were nuts in the head. And yes, there's a good part of me that hates that I'm giving Jordan Peterson views. This is on his YouTube channel. This video that I'm critiquing here was released 12 days ago. It has 3.8 million views. Jordan Peterson has 8.55 million subscribers. These people influence people. That's enough to give you nightmares. Okay, let's continue.
And they're both measured in USD. In Vancouver, more money goes to bureaucrats than goes to the carpenters, electricians and plumbers who build the place. And to add insult, injury tradespeople who build homes can't afford to live in them. Why is it that we're still importing oil when we bought the world's third biggest supply? Why is it we can't export our natural gas?
I think math is perhaps the single stupidest thing I ever heard in politicians. Your federal government expect.
Jordan Peterson's the subtle type. Can you tell?
Thousand dollars of your family's money going over their budget.
They squeeze the taxpayer out of every last dime and they're still $62 billion short.
It's worse than that because I suspect that the true pig.
Okay, so we ran up a deficit because of this crazy thing called the pandemic. I mean, Trudeau didn't want to let Canadians starve. Obama was bragging about Canada and how per capita so many less people lost their lives in Canada. Okay, Sandy, watch the video. It's gonna be fun.
Is a lot more dismal than we know. Okay, so that's going to be dumped on you sometime in the next year.
They get the party, I get the hangover.
Eight years from now, what does it look like? Hello, everybody. I have the opportunity and the privilege today to speak with Mr. Pierre Polya, who is the leader of Canada's Federal Conservative Party. But also, barring catastrophe and God willing, Canada's next prime minister.
So we know what side of the fence Jordan Peterson sitting on. God willing, and barring any catastrophe, Polly is going to lead the country. Poly of leading the country would be the catastrophe. But I digress. Just so you know what side of.
The fence I'm on, our transition in power in this country is likely to take place sometime between March and October or November of 2025.
Truth, we are looking at an election with Trudeau stepping down and them now doing the national search for A new leader of Liberal Party. Yeah, we're going to be looking at an election. I hate to say I agree with that fact, that fact, that fact, and.
It appears very probable that Pierre Polyev is the heir presumptive and will be.
The next Prime Minister of Canada.
And so I talked to Mr. Polly two and a half years ago, which is quite shocking to me.
I thought it had been more recently than that. And.
Okay, it looks like a baby here. And how old's Polly up? I got to Google that. And while I'm at it, the people watching this video. I mentioned it before. My son and I did this extensive Google search. Nowhere can we find out how tall Polly is. And yes, he may or may not have symptoms what I would classify as Little man syndrome. I don't know. He could be 6:2. I have no idea. Does anyone know? Have you been at an event with him so you know how relatively tall he is? I'm curious. I would love to learn.
I'm honestly, I'm inspired. In the meantime, what did I talk about with Pierre? Well, I think mostly what I did was give Canadians and people on the international side a chance to see who this man is. In an hour and a half of discussion and the extra half an hour on the daily wire side, you have enough time to get a sense of how someone responds spontaneously and emotionally and cognitively to complex and challenging questions.
That's kind of what we're doing today. I'm not telling you what my reaction is. You're gonna see it. Can you tell I'm anxious? Okay, let's go.
In a manner that's not rehearsed. That's the huge advantage of the podcast format. We talked about all the stories that. All the stories that Mr. Pollyv has heard in his thousands of event interactions with Canadians in industrial settings, in manufacturing settings, in academic settings, so that he could inform himself about the true situation that's facing Canadians struggling to make ends meet despite their best efforts. Now, this is a dismal reality in Canada with its excessive housing prices and diminishing economy. Most importantly, perhaps, what is his vision of the future that both threatens and provides opportunity for Canadians? How is it possible for the citizens of this great country to dig themselves out of the lays and pit that has been dug for them and by them over the last nine years? And what could be done to remove the impediments such that this country could become the dynamic industrial powerhouse that it certainly could easily become? So join us for all that. So, sir, it's been almost two and A half years since we sat down.
To talk the time before.
So I guess the first thing I'd like to know is what have you been doing during that time? I'd like to, I'd like to hear, I'd like to hear about your day to day schedule, your week to week scheduling, lay out your job.
Basically we have two parts to my professional life. It's very bifurcated. There's the Parliament hillside, which is early morning meeting with my leadership team, house leader, deputy leader, whip, etc. Plan out the day battle plan for our parliamentary committees, question period, etc. That is punctuated by one weekly caucus meeting and just the daily prosecution of the government, which is the.
Daily prosecution of the government. So the Conservative Party, it's a minority government right now, so I don't think they're the official opposition. I think it's a combination of them and the ndp. But the job's not to prosecute the government. Criticize them, call them out on things, sure, but prosecute implies guilt. I'm good, I'm good. Let's continue.
Essential role of an opposition leader and then the other part to my life is touring. I asked my assistant today how many events we had done over the last year and he said it was exactly 600. A few weeks ago it was 570 something. So we've done 600 events and those are like tours at Mills mines.
Did he say when the 600 started? I think he said over the last year, but it's like January 15th, so maybe he meant over. When was this released? 12 days ago. Guessing he meant in 2024. It's a lot of events, I'll give him that.
Factories, farms, high tech facilities and then we tour in, see how the place operates. Then I give a short speech, do a question and answer and then I just mull about and shake hands with the workers for 25 minutes to an hour and then I go on to the next stop and do it all over again. And we did that in nine provinces and two territories.
Which reminds me, so I assume he's been in Ontario, but viewers, if any of you are from northern Ontario, has Polly have been anywhere near here? Like, I don't know. I honestly don't know. That doesn't mean he hasn't been. I'm just not aware. Garen Flippin t he's been in southern Ontario. Huge population there. Northern Ontario tends to get left out of the equation. I'm just wondering if anyone knows, let.
Me know this year.
And, and so that's a Summary of my workload and work plan to do my job.
And you said 600 events. You made illusion when you're driving over here that the weekends are particularly packed but you'll do like 10 events on Saturday or Sunday.
Right.
And, and so a typical event. What do you enjoy about the events? Why are they useful and what do you learn?
Well, first of all, you get to, you get it practical insight into how the country actually works. Like who makes the widgets, how do those get made? How do, how does our supply chain come together? What skill sets do these incredible workers have? What background qualified them to be a licensed welder or to run a CNC machine or to be a CEO of a 300 person company that supplies parts into the American economy?
The American economy. What did he mean Canadian? Or is he talking specifically about what, why what. I'm backing that up.
A typical event. What do you enjoy about the events? Why are they useful and what do you learn?
Well, first of all, you get to, you get a practical insight into how the country actually works. Like who makes the widgets? How do those get made? How do, how does our supply chain come together? What skill sets do these incredible workers have? What background qualified them to be a licensed welder or to run a CNC machine or to be a CEO of a 300 person company that supplies parts into the American economy?
So he did say American. Not all the mills or corporations that he would tour supply into the American economy. What about the Canadian economy? Okay, that one. Now I think this is amazing. I think any provincial or federal leader should be doing. Maybe they do. I love the knowledge. But he said American. And Jordan Peterson, I think I mentioned maybe I didn't. He's moved to the US now. He's had enough of Canada. So.
Anyways, and that practical insight I.
Think is important if you want to lead a government and a national economy. So you learn a lot. Then I get to.
But whose national economy? The US or Canada? What are we talking about, Perry? Pierre, what are we talking about?
Hear the stories of the people who work in these places and get their feedback on what they want, their dreams and aspirations are.
Yeah, I want to turn to that right in some detail. Let me ask you about the parliamentary side too because I think it'd be useful for people to know how you prepare for your or what you do in Parliament. I don't, it isn't obvious to me that people exactly understand the business of being in opposition at a really practical level.
Right.
How do you, what do you see as your major Function. I know you're there to push back against the government and to question and criticize, but it isn't obvious how you go about preparing for that or how you decide what issues you're going to focus on and how you distribute the responsibilities among your caucus and your.
And your broader team. So, you know, there's a lot of discretion. Make up your mind.
When you wake up in the morning.
You read the news. I have a team that gives me a full briefing of all the published news from the mainstream media, all the news from the independent and ethnic, all a download of the entire social media landscape. And then I respond to that by saying, well, I think these are the. We're gonna. We have roughly 25 questions we can ask. I'll say, well, we want 10 on inflation and three on violent crime and four on whatever the subject happens to be in the day. And I want this committee to focus on this today and that committee to focus on that today. And our teams go out and we do it.
Gotta admit, I didn't know the inner workings of that position as much as I do now. Pretty cool job if you want it. I think that's amazing. Not easy, but amazing. And I would assume leader of the Liberal Party, who happens to be Prime Minister now, would be similar.
I've been very blessed because my caucus is extremely talented. We don't need a lot of direction. We've been active in unison, and I think that's why our message is something out so clearly to people. It's not a cacophony of sound. It's a clear drum beat. And that's why people are hearing and appreciating our message.
So you feel that your party is well organized?
Extremely well organized.
What's your evidence for that?
Well, we wipe by every measure, by every statistical measure, we're stronger than any political party has been in. Maybe even my lifestyle, objectively speaking. Memberships, fundraising, whole numbers. Right.
So people are positive. Are positive.
In consequence. It's a lot easier to lead an.
Organization when it's successful. Obviously, people are much more enthusiastic.
Yes.
Why do you think you're in that position? What's going on that's setting the stage for that? And I don't just mean the failures on the Trudeau side. What do you think you grabbed again?
I don't just mean. He didn't say the work of Trudeau or the Liberals. It's the failings. Okay.
Well, we have a clearer mission statement, and people know exactly why we're in this. You know, whenever someone asks me if they say, I'm thinking of running for Parliament or for mayor or some other political position, what's your advice? I said, well, before I get to the advice, I have a very simple question. Why do you want this job? And it might seem like a simplistic question, but it's actually the most important question in life. Why? Why are you doing what you're doing? Our answer to that is to bring back the Canadian promise that anyone who works hard gets a great paycheck and a pension that buys them good food and a nice home in a safe neighborhood.
Did you see my head explode? It exploded. So I have absolutely no issue with someone who works hard getting ahead. I would have. I can't imagine anyone arguing with that. The problem with the Conservatives is they have a nasty habit of assuming we're all starting at point zero. The Conservatives would absolutely love to erase history and say, okay, we're starting from today. Everyone's at the same playing field and we're not. That's the difference between equity and equality. Right? Equality is give everyone the same thing. Equity is taking into consideration where they're starting. Maybe you don't have the option to work hard because those. The economic base isn't there. Go to a remote First Nation community. There are no jobs. It's not like you don't want one. There are none. If you don't have the educational background because the school isn't there. Right. Like, okay, the reality is we are 10 minutes into this video. This is gonna take a while. I'm gonna have to do this in baby steps so I don't blow my blood pressure. I hope you enjoyed it. What do you think so far? I hope the sound quality is better with this version. We shall see. And I hope to see you in the next video. Talk to you soon. I love you. Bye bye.
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