The Counterintuitive Secret to Creating Change - EP045

This content was created by Tamsen Webster. This content was uploaded by Tamsen Webster. This is a YouTube episode titled "The Counterintuitive Secret to Creating Change - EP045" (Find the Red Thread) published Dec 13, 2017. It features Tamsen Webster delivering a solo talk about how to create lasting behavior change by producing tension between a person's inner identity and their outside reality (illustrated with her own 50-pound weight-loss and Weight Watchers leadership experience). She explains this as cognitive dissonance and outlines the "Red Thread" framework (goal, real problem, and a fundamental belief about the self) as a way to motivate change, and she directs listeners to download a worksheet and subscribe.
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One of the enduring questions of just about anything related to business or in life is how do you get someone to actually do something different? We go through a lot of different options there. We said, well, maybe if we just loved our goals more, or maybe ourselves more, that would be enough. Sometimes that's true. And then there's approaches like Challenger or Gap Selling where we say, well, if you just make the problem bad enough and the stake's high enough, that'll prompt us to change. And yet I think we've all been in situations where we couldn't imagine wanting a goal more, or where we knew the stakes were super, super high, and yet we still didn't act. Why is that? And what can we do different? Well, that's what we're talking about this week. I'm Tamsen Webster of tamsenwebster.com, and this is find the red thread. One of the situations where people have a goal they really, really want and the stakes of not getting it are really, really high is weight loss. You might be wondering, why am I talking about that? Well, that's because I have maintained a 50-pound weight loss for 19 years and 2 children. And in addition to that, for 13 years while I was working my full-time jobs in brand and messaging, I was a Weight Watchers leader. I was helping other people lose weight the way that I had. And I bring this up because there was one quality that I saw more consistently in the people who were successful that gives us a clue, I think, to how we can create change in either ourselves or other people. So what was this quality that helped people be successful rather than struggle? Well, the thing that I noticed was this, that the people who were most successful had inconsistent views of their inside and outside. Here's what I mean, that who they saw themselves as on the inside—capable, valuable, smart, funny, whatever it might have been— they saw that as inconsistent with who they saw themselves as in the mirror. So the inside them and the outside them didn't match. And it was that tension of inside versus outside that was consistently the thing that I saw drive people to do the very hard work of changing behaviors permanently. In contrast, the people who struggled were the people who where that wasn't inconsistent. Either they believed that who they look like or what they look like on the outside was in fact who they were. They believed that they were overweight by genetics, or this was just the way they were meant to be, or maybe they did have some issues of self-love or whatever. But that outside and their inside were— if they weren't consistent, they at least weren't opposed. Now, why would this inconsistency versus consistency matter? Well, it's for something that's true across all humans and all situations. And it's this: that whenever there are two things that we believe to be true, when they're in conflict with each other, it is one mental gap that we can't leave open. We can't let that situation stand. It creates an untenable tension in our minds. For the science geeks out there, it is technically cognitive dissonance. It's the inability to hold two opposing truths in our mind at the same time. And that's why for people who were overweight, who saw their outside as not matching their inside, it was the same thing. That was cognitive dissonance. In the face of that untenable tension, we will absolutely do one of two things. We will change that core fundamental belief about ourselves, not always that likely, or we will change the core fundamental belief about how we see the world. So for folks that were consistently more successful, for instance, they already saw themselves as valuable, smart, funny, whatever it might have been, but it helped them start to see that the weight loss and their weight was a product of something else. It was a product perhaps of planning or behaviors or choices. And once they were forced to reexamine the real problem, then they could identify something that they could actually solve and actually work with. As opposed to the people who didn't have that inconsistency, who thought, well, maybe I'm just supposed to be that way. There was none of that tension that drove them to do something different. Why does this matter for us as message makers or change makers? Well, because that tension is something we can consciously create for people. We can consciously create the sit— situation where those two truths battle. And when two truths fight, only one lives to tell the tale. And this is why I've broken down the Red Thread the way that I have, because it sets up three different possible ideas, concepts that can be put in conflict. The first is what is it that you want? What is the thing that you're trying to get? That's the goal. The second thing is what's the real thing? What's the real problem you have to solve? That's the problem. And the third concept, and honestly, this is the most important, is what is the fundamental truth about you, yourself, your organization, or if you're talking to clients and customers, that they believe about themselves that makes the other two, the goal and the problem, absolutely impossible, inconsistent with that fundamental belief. What can you do to create that? Well, keep asking those questions. And one of my favorite ones is to, once you've identified the real problem for yourself or for somebody else, ask, why would that bother me so much? Why do I have to solve that problem? So for this, I'll use an example from my own, my own life, and that is I can't stand mental gaps. I can't stand it when somebody sees something that they want, like one of those Weight Watchers saw this other version of themselves and they just couldn't figure out how to make those two things match. That's a mental gap. But the reason why that bothers me so much is because of a fundamental belief I have, and that is that people already have all the tools that they need. They just need to know how to use them. So it's It's untenable for me for those two things to be in existence when I know there's a way for that, for someone to solve it. And that drives the change. It drives me to find ways to help people think about their world, their life, themselves differently. And that's really the power of the Red Thread. It can make any of you be able to create that same kind of untenable tension that creates the change that you're looking for. So the next time you are trying to figure out, why can't I figure out the next step? Or how do I get somebody moving into a direction? Look for that tension, that tension between the problem and that fundamental belief that they have about themselves. And keep working until you can find a way where those two things are impossible to coexist together. The way I like to think about this, and this is what I'll leave you with, is that when there's a goal that you can't imagine living without, that the answer doesn't lie in trying to figure out how to love that goal more or even how to make the stakes of the problem higher. The answer instead lies in how can I— what is it about me that can make me think differently about that problem where it makes that problem impossible to ignore? So it isn't that we don't love our goals enough. It's that we haven't yet found the reason to hate the problem more. So keep looking for that. You will find it, and when you do, your brain will automatically work to close that gap and get you moving when you haven't been before. To help you with that process, go to findyourredthread.com and download the Red Thread Worksheet. Also, if you're enjoying this, whether you listen or watch, subscribe on YouTube, Give us a rating and a comment in iTunes, and otherwise, let me know what else you want to know more about. I would love to answer your questions here on a future episode of Find the Red Thread.










