Want Engagement? Create Mystery - EP064

This content was created by Tamsen Webster. This content was uploaded by Tamsen Webster. This is a YouTube episode titled "Want Engagement? Create Mystery - EP064" (published 2018-05-02) featuring Tamsen Webster as the solo host. The piece is a podcast-style monologue about messaging and audience engagement — explaining how to make ideas irresistible by balancing knowledge and curiosity, using her "Red Thread" framework and a "talk block outline" to structure information so listeners stay curious and move toward change. It includes practical steps (goals → show the gap → present the idea → actions), a promotion for Red Thread Weekend, and subscription/share calls-to-action.
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Even if we've done the work to make sure that our important idea is interesting, to make it irresistible to people, we have to keep them engaged with it. They have to continue to find it irresistible. So how do we do that? Well, that's what we're talking about this week on Find the Red Thread, and I'm Tamsen Webster, your host at TamsenWebster.com. When we've got an irresistible idea, it's so tempting, I know, just to tell people all about it and give them all the information they need to make the action and make the change that you want them to make. Except of course, we've talked about this a lot and that our idea of what information people need in order to make that change is really different from what information they actually need. Because there's a big difference between curiosity and knowledge when it comes to driving action. Knowledge, of course, is something that is given, received, and then it's something that you have. So if I learn a thing, it's hard for me to unlearn it. So I've got that, I've got that piece of information. But this is why if you just tell people the answer, if you just tell people, "This is what you need to do," one of the reasons why it's not as effective as a way of getting your message across. Not only does it kick in that initial resistance, that psychological reactance that, that makes people resistant even to things that they want to do, but it means that you've just given them the answer. There's no curiosity about it. At best, that's where you are, but at worst, you're in a position of having to defend that change, that knowledge that you've just given them. So on the opposite side, or the other perspective that we're looking for here when it comes to knowledge, we want to balance knowledge with curiosity. We want people to be asking questions. Why? Well, because comprehension, curiosity comes from questions. So we want to make sure that the knowledge that we give people is the kind of knowledge that creates curiosity, the kind of knowledge that creates questions. Because the more questions people ask, not only will they understand it more clearly, But they will also be the ones moving themselves along this path to the change that you've outlined. So how do you do that? Well, you're probably gonna guess by now that you follow the red thread. I mean, I've probably said before that my unofficial tagline is, "I overthink so you don't have to." I don't want you to have to worry about, "How do I set up the information in such a way that creates curiosity?" Because I already figured it out. I already figured out that if you give people a goal and then you show them that they're not getting it right now, that you've created curiosity about the question of, well, why not? And that's where the problem comes in. And once you've described that problem as incomplete perspective, now you've created more curiosity between, well, huh, I'm not even where I thought I was. Why not? And what do I have to understand next? And that's where the idea comes in. And once you give them the idea, now you're in a position to get them to think about, like, well, huh, well, that must explain why I haven't been getting the thing that I wanted. But, and this is where they start to move themselves for it, it might mean that the change looks like this. And in classic murder mystery style, you know I'm a fan, the audience starts to figure out, your customer starts to figure out where to go next on their own. They start to see the shape of the solution themselves. And that's the moment where you give them the change. Well, how do I do this, they say? That's where the change comes in. And then when they're saying, "But can I do this?" Well, you're giving them actions. But remember what we've talked about before. We want to make sure that by the time we get to the actions, there's no fundamentally new information. You may package it differently by the time they get to the actions. But all the concepts, all the backup, all the reason why those actions are the right actions to take should have come earlier. Because by the time that you're getting people to really think how to put a change into place, That's when you actually don't want them asking more questions. You want them to only be asking one. Where's the next best place I can use this? And what does this mean for me? Okay, so that was two questions. But those are the questions that you want, not, wait, I don't understand, what does this mean? And worse, okay, I got it, I don't need anything else. When we get people to be asking questions, we keep them curious, which means we keep them moving. Which means we keep them changing, and that's the key to making change happen long-term. I'm Tamsen Webster of TamsenWebster.com. If you're curious about how to think through putting this information in the right place, this is something I refer to as a visual outline. It can be very helpful to get all of these concepts in one place, and like a storyboard. I call it a talk block outline. Blocks not only because there's different blocks we fill in, but Also because by filling them in, we remove all the mental blocks your reader, your audience, your potential customer might have to your message. It's the second step after we've worked together to figure out your Red Thread. So if you're still figuring out what your Red Thread might be, sign up for a future Red Thread Weekend. You can find more information and dates at redthreadweekend.com. The earlier you reserve, the less expensive it is. Yay! Alright, so that's how to make sure that you keep mystery and suspense and curiosity going in your message, how you combine knowledge and curiosity to create the change that you're looking for. I'm Tamsen Webster of TamsenWebster.com. Thanks so much. If you love this episode, then share it and share it widely. Subscribe on YouTube, iTunes, and Libsyn and tell other friends about it. Thanks so much. See you next time.










