27. The Psychic Connection: Solving Crimes, Messages from Beyond, and Exploring Life After Death with Intuitive Healer Terrie Huberman

Hello, and this is Janae Luciani Senna. You're listening to Visible Panty Lines, the podcast. Yes, this has been a hiatus. I know a lot of you are regular listeners. You're probably wondering what the heck happened. Initially, I decided to take the summer off and focus on some other things and obviously the kids being home and everything. Something terrible happened right at the, I guess, tail end of the summer, heading into the fall, most of you probably know and have heard because it made national news, but it was really traumatic for the family. And basically we've just been trying to sort of rebuild and move forward. And thank God that my niece is home and she's doing okay. And, you know, everybody's taking it one day at a time. Just to give you an idea, today I'm going to have an intuitive healer, a psychic medium. She is an energy healer. Her name is Terri Huberman. She's amazing. And I, for one, have always been an advocate of speaking with mediums and psychics. I really believe in what they do. I believe in the sort of power of spiritual and being connected with your spiritual side. I don't believe that we have only live a life here on Earth and that we don't have a spirit that lives in other realms and other lives. And I've done a lot of research on the topic. I read a lot of books, and I have visited with a lot of psychic mediums. I really believe in the work that they do. And throughout my niece's case, I was actually speaking with several of them, and the information was truly amazing. I was delivering information to one of the detectives, but there was something very specific about my niece's abductor being related to, potentially to two Cold Case murders. And that information was delivered before we even found her and knew who had taken her. And that was passed along to the detectives by me. And it turns out they're looking into him for those cases now. So that's just one small example of what the power of a psychic medium can do on the scene of a crime, especially something where you have no information whatsoever and you're just desperate for any information. And something that Terri does is a citizen informant. And basically she helps with leads on cases using her skills. And these are skills, obviously, that are different than the detectives might have. It's investigative, I guess, sort of, you.

Could say it's a different type of investigation. But yeah.

So I was, you know, intrigued that you do that, because I think, obviously having lived it, I think that's so important. Eight years ago, a very good friend of mine was murdered working in her hair salon. And I was essentially working with a psychic again in that case and delivering information to detectives. And he gave pretty much an accurate description of who did it and why they did it. I still have the messages because it was over Facebook messenger. He's a. He's a friend of mine, someone that I consulted with for years. It just so happened that Jackie was his client, so he did know her. So I think that was helpful that in that too. But this was a case that was completely mysterious. Obviously she wasn't involved in anything shady. And there was, you know, the detectives had no idea who or why. And it ended up being random and a crime that they were doing it for drug money. And that is exactly what he said. And you know, several months later they arrested the suspects and that is exactly what had happened. So it's effective and it works, right, Wouldn't you say, Terry?

I would say definitely say that. I think the role of a psychic is to not actually solve the case, but to give sort of clues for the law enforcement to do their job. So it can be. And it can be really sticky for a psychic because they have. Because they'll get information that only law enforcement might know, not even the family might know. And so they, you know, they might sort of put themselves in a situation where they can become a suspect. So there's a lot of little intricate details and sort of processes that need to be followed when doing these kinds of cases. So as helpful as a psychic can be, they also have to be very, very careful not to make themselves a suspect, which we don't even consider or think about. But.

Right. Yeah, I hadn't even thought about that because with. Right. And I hadn't even thought about that because with Adam Bernstein in Jackie's case, she was his client, but I don't think the detective really would ever suspect him for it. But yeah, he did know her. And I remember the message at like 2 or 3 in the morning where he was basically like, Jackie just came to me and here's what she said. And it was like so fascinating because I texted it to the detective and then lo and behold, it was like to a T what had gone on.

You had a great detective to work with. Yes, a lot. A lot of them are not open minded. So that's why it's still sort of coming more and more to be using on cases. But it's still not like the general norm. So as. As helpful as psychics are and can be, you know, it's also a Challenge, right?

Yes. Well, I will tell you, in my niece's case, I was standing there with the detectives, and I shared with them that I had just received a text message from Christine Sebold, and she's a friend of mine who's a psychic medium. And she sent two screenshots to me of these two previous cold case murders, and they were 20 years ago. And she essentially said, whoever took your niece has something to do with these two cases. And I showed it to the one detective, and he kind of waved his hand at me and said, no, no, no, I don't want anything from a psychic. And I said, hey, you know, I was involved in my very good, dear friend's murder case several years ago. I was helping the detective, and a psychic basically told us what happened several months before actually an arrest was made. And so don't knock it. And he kind of just didn't say anything. He just looked at me and he went, okay, so what are the names of the girls? And he wrote them down. Yep, yep. And then I believe he also ended up speaking with her. So I felt like, okay, at least I kind of maybe opened his eyes to the possibility. Especially when you're standing there and you're saying, we really don't have anything right now, and we're desperate. And now it's going on 24 hours that she's missing. And even with, you know, my husband was out in the woods, you know, searching for hours on end at the campgrounds. And he's the opposite of me. He does not believe in anything really to do with metaphysical. And so he. He said to me, I must be getting really desperate because I'm talking to and I'm listening to a psychic that a friend of his had you passed along. And we actually ended up bringing her to the scene. And strangely enough, she was there when we learned that my niece had been found. And she had pretty much described the suspect to a T. I mean, the. The look of him was, the way she described it. It was like identical details. So my husband, you know, at that point, I said, well, I really hope you don't say you don't believe anymore. And he said, well, she didn't really tell us where she was, but I don't know how. Yeah, but. But I don't know how she knew what he looked like. And I was like, oh, my goodness, you know, like, what will it take for you? But it was, you know, you're willing to do anything in that type of situation. And like me, it was actually like my first call but.

Yeah, I mean, it is usually when there's desperation and, you know, the clues have basically gone cold, there's nothing.

Yeah.

And so that's. That's the benefit, and that is where it is. It's great to just get extra information and, you know, the law enforcement will know whether they need to pursue that.

Right.

Or not.

Yeah.

So it's. It is good teamwork, so.

Well, I couldn't believe it after his arrest and everything like that. They had a story in the paper that they were looking into those two cases and his potential involvement and that he lives. He lived very close, very close to both of those women. So I just hope and pray that there is some closure for those families, whether it's related to my niece's case or not, so. And I do want to talk a little bit more about your approach to mediumship and how you involve humor. And you have a unique approach than other intuitive healers and psychic mediums. But we talked about doing a little reading on me and seeing if anybody comes forward.

So I thought that that would be great, if you're up for it.

Sure, sure. So I do ask for images of your loved ones. So I just want to be totally transparent. So that's what I did, was I asked you to send me a picture of who you want me to read too.

Yeah, yeah.

Because I can connect to them much deeper that way. A lot of times they'll come through in photos. And you sent me a really beautiful pie for me. It's very beautiful. I don't. You know, I'll just go by what I have here of this gentleman. What is this gentleman's first name? Only first.

Sure.

What is his first?

His name is Lyle.

Lyle. Okay. So I'm. I'm looking at Lyle here, and I'm feeling into Lyle, and I'm giving Lyle an invitation, and hopefully he'll come through. So what I like to do is sometimes others will come through. I know I'm. I'm reaching out to Lyle right now, but others may come through. So I also want to keep an open mind for the information that I give you could be someone else as well.

And, hey, we're open to whoever wants to come and visit today.

Exactly. And a lot of times our loved ones bring other people, too. So that's why I don't like to. To just focus on just one loved one. It is a lot of times they'll piggyback or they bring in. So the information that I'm going to give you right now, I just sort of. Before we go ahead and claim that, yes, this is Lyle. It could be someone else. So let's go ahead and extend an invitation to Lyle. And I do feel someone stepping through. Now when I talk, I talk energy, so not necessarily the body.

Okay.

So I do feel more of a feminine energy coming through. But that doesn't mean it's not Lyle.

Okay.

Because Lyle may be more feminine in nature, nurturing, all of that stuff.

So.

So I feel a feminine energy walking through. I also, I'm sensing a connection. Okay, this is going to be interesting, so help me out here, because this is metaphor. The spirit world speaks to me in metaphor. So I gotta do some investigation here.

Right.

Do you understand a connection to. Now, when I say connection, it doesn't mean this person. It means this person might know somebody with the name Walter or W. A male named W. Do you understand, in connection, Lyle, to someone named Walter or someone with a name W.

And if you, if you don't, that's okay. Just sort of keep that information because it could be somebody else.

Okay.

Yeah. So also, now, Lyle, the picture you sent to me, obvious. When I'm looking at this from an obvious perspective, he's an, he's an older, more mature gentleman. But do you understand that there's a connection, like a grandfather or an uncle type of energy connected to him? Do you understand this? And connect, like relationship wise to you? Yes, very close friend, uncle or grandfather. You understand this?

Well, he's my children's grandfather.

Okay, got it.

Yep.

So I am speaking with a gentleman, but I do feel more of a feminine energy now.

This is.

Now the feminine energy feels like it came later in life, not so much earlier in life. So there's a nurturing, kind of loving, compassionate type of way of being later on in Lyle's life. Do you understand this?

Yeah, I mean, it definitely could have come later for him, I would say. He was a great. He was my. Not my biological dad, but he was a dad and he was the one that I would literally go to. He, like my. My daughter called, calls him still to this day her best friend. Friend.

Yeah.

So, like, he basically was our best friend. I would say, yeah.

Like, because this is gonna sound silly, but I feel like you got it. Not that you might, not that you did this, but you could have done like girls, nights. Like, that's the kind of person he would have been. Like sleepovers, just very loving, giggly, connective, silly and playful, which is a lot more feminine.

Definitely.

Yeah.

Especially with my daughter, like, and my niece, like, he would say, like Those were his little girls and, like, very attached to, you know, his granddaughters, as opposed to. Not that he didn't love and wasn't close to his grandsons, but. But more so with the girls.

It was. It's almost like your girls brought out that part of him. What I'm feeling is like, he kind of had to keep low within himself. So when. I mean low when he was younger, he had to sort of. He felt like he had to sort of fit a way of being. So what I mean by that is, like, it was harder for him to tap into that more feminine side. He didn't necessarily. He had opportunities. I'm hearing him say he had opportunities, but he didn't take it because he felt he. He put a lot of pressure on himself to sort of fit in. Do you understand this? Do you know this?

Yeah. I mean, I think it's funny because he. So he was in, I guess college would be, what, this probably late 60s or something, and he was a music major and wanted to be a music teacher. And in Kentucky. And he would always talk about. Now, they basically still had. Sadly, they still had, in the south, like, segregation going on then. I mean, there was, like, it was a terrible time in that sense. And he was joining a fraternity with his best friend, who ended up being my high school music teacher. And they would always talk about how. Because they were the music majors, like, they would make them hold hands and, like, act like they were women or that sort of thing because they were music majors. And that was like his funny story, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. Like, there's that feminine energy, you know, again. And look, feminine energies is about expressing and being. And with him, I felt like he really had to. Like, there were laws or restrictions or boundaries that he had to kind of just follow for the majority of his life. And it feels to me like your daughters were kind. Like, almost like the soul contract that they had was they were the keys to helping him unlock it. Now, it is unfortunate that it happened later in life for him.

Yeah.

But it happened, right?

Yeah.

And that's all we all ever want is just to feel like we can fully be who we are and express ourselves. But he was. He's a very. And I feel this very strongly. He's a really loyal person. You understand that?

Yes, definitely.

And he was. He. Or at least, you know, we're humans. Right. So, like, when he was wearing his earth suit, he did his best. Of course. You know, we do. We all do our best when we're.

Wearing our earth suit.

But to really be in integrity to mean what he says and says what he means.

So, yeah, that was. Yep.

Yeah. So he would do a lot of follow through on his word. Like, his integrity was really strong.

Also.

I'm getting like. And I think you were sort of touching on this, but I feel like he was one of these people who, when he saw injustice, he was not happy with it.

Yes, that is, yes. And he stood up. Like, if anything happened in my life where I was like, this is going on, like, he's the one that I would call and he would be like, on the phone. He would be. Yes, exactly.

And what's nice about that is that's very protective energy. Right? Yes. And he's, I mean, you know, when you first sent me the picture and I opened it up and I was like, oh, I'm just like, he's, he's really an incredible soul. And I say that even in the present because so many people now are like struggling with finding, you know, the balance of being able to be who they truly are and having to fit in with, like, maybe society's rules and stuff like that and towards. He did get to leave his earth suit, fulfilling that part of himself which is really, really nice. Now, do you know when he was younger or just prior to. Not necessarily his passing, but just when he was younger, which could be any day before the.

Do you understand an injury to an ankle or a foot? Did he break his leg or something? You understand that he definitely had various.

Things going on because he was very active. He was a triathlete, he was a lifeguard. He, I mean, he was a big runner. So I'm trying to think if there is anything specifically related to the leg.

It might have been when he was younger. And it feels like the lower leg, not like the, you know, like the whole leg or the upper thigh hanging.

Okay.

And I feel like for him that was a, it might have been like an early, like one of his first injuries or something like that. Maybe I'll make it more broad and say injury instead of like a broken leg or something like that.

Yeah.

Because I feel like that kind of helped him sort of be like, I want more than just having to rest. So he was a kind of person who was always very active and very wanting to be part of things. Not sit on the sidelines.

Yes.

Always.

For him to sit on the sidelines and just sort of like watch things, you know, pass in front of him. He, he was a participator in life. He was not an avoider of life.

Right. For sure.

That's one of the. That's one of the beautiful things about Lyle is that. I mean, it's not that he couldn't be a jerk. We can all be jerks.

That's funny you would say that, because a lot of people thought he was really, really well liked, but then also could really rub people the wrong way. Like, you know what I mean? Because he literally said what was on his mind and what he felt, and he literally did not care who you were if it would hurt your feelings if that's how he, you know, felt. And that was the right thing for him at the moment. He stood by it. So some people could be like, oh, man, that guy is, you know, kind of a jerk.

But he wasn't.

But.

Yeah, but that's the thing is, like, he wasn't. And that's what brings me into this, where he was actually a complete, compassionate person by being kind. And kind is different than nice. You could be nice and just, like, you know, not really say the truth, but you could be kind and say the truth because it can actually help somebody.

Yeah.

And so that's where I think that confusion of the jerkiness would. Would come in. It's like he didn't have time. It's like the way he ran his life is he didn't have time for B.S.

Okay?

So it's like, I'm just gonna say what it is. I'm not necessarily, you know, being on purpose or intentionally rude, but this is the truth. And if it gets you to do something and act in a certain behavior, that's going to benefit the entire, you know, party, let's just say, then we're there for it. Then I'm not going to coddle you, and I'm not gonna, like, sit there and say nice things so that there's no action, you know, moving forward. Because, again, he was a man of integrity. Mean what you say and say what you mean. Yes. You know, yeah. I love this gentleman. I really love him. I feel like if he wasn't, like, a motivator of some sort, he could, like, nowadays, you know, be one of these inspirational or motivational kind of speakers.

Yes, he was that to his students. Like, they. I mean, yeah, 35 years of teaching, and he would have kept going, but he was, like, sick for a really long time, and it was, like, getting worse. And the amount of, like, I mean, thousands of people from over the years messaging and writing on the Facebook page about him, and just, like, it was during COVID so he couldn't have a proper Memorial. I have no doubt that if we did that, it would have been overflowing, literally. And then they named the auditorium after him at the school. I mean, it was like he was famous. Like, I would always say, like, people would say, oh, you're on tv, you're famous. But I would always be like, no, he's the. He's the famous one. You know, he was literally like, everybody. You can go anywhere. Everybody knew him.

Yeah. What a great guy. Thank you for sharing him with. Yeah, appreciate. I love connecting with, you know, these really high, happy, you know, authentic and real. To me, there's still people, even though they're not wearing their Earth suits, it's just a different frequency. Like tuning yourself to a radio station. So you're still here.

Well, I want to ask you about that because I think, like, that would be beneficial for our listeners. So I'm reading. Dolores, I'm sure you're familiar with Dolores Cannon, right? Like, pretty much everybody knows her. Yep. So, yeah, she's reading. My husband bought me a couple of her books for Christmas. And I'm reading Life After Death or. Yes, Life After Death. Right. Or Life Between Death, something like that. I have to get. I have to look at it. But essentially she explains, like, I've read plenty of stuff about, you know, near death experiences and that our soul leaves our body, but we still retain our soul and all this stuff. But the thing that I like about her book and her research and all the people that she's put under hypnosis to basically talk to their souls is that it really explains it, like, all the questions that you have. So I think that that would be beneficial. Like, you know, okay, we can maybe say we understand that our soul lives on, so we're not afraid of leaving this life and dying. But then you're like, well, how does our. Like, what is our soul? What does our soul exist? Like? So I think it would be interesting for you to give your take and what people could feel like, okay, I'm not afraid to leave this earth or leave this world because, you know, this is what happens.

Yeah. So that is lifetime work. Because basically what this is, is you're talking about energy. Every single thing is made up of energy. And the more physical, intangible something is, the lower and slower the energy waves move. So your soul is vibrating at such a high level that there is no physical tangibility to it. There's no mass or matter to it. But what it does is it sort of acts as like two things. One, a data bank of information from all of the Earth suits that it's taken on to collect data and information. So that's one thing. And the other thing the soul is, is that it is a facet or a part of the divine that needs to experience itself, but it can't without a physical container, which is that lower vibrational frequency, which is known as, you know, the human body or the earth suit. So it is not a physical, tangible thing. And what happens is when the soul takes on a physical container, it pours part of itself, not the entire soul, just part of the soul into the human body. So you actually, just to simplify things in a way, you kind of have two souls. You have a higher soul, and then you have a lower soul. And the lower soul is the part that has the human.

A higher soul is the divine part of you. Okay, so what happens is the lower soul gets sort of entangled with the human earth suit, and so it thinks, feels, acts, and behaves as if physical reality is, if we want to call it truth. I mean, it is truth. This is very complicated and very difficult to talk about it like.

Yes, I know, in two seconds, right.

I have a whole program that teaches all of this. But so what happens is the part of us that's afraid to die is the part that has the attachment to the human body.

Oh, okay. So people do, in essence, people live on. You do get to reconnect with the souls of your loved ones. Because I think that's my biggest, always my biggest fear is like, will I see my husband? Will I see my kids? You know?

Oh, yeah. Yes, yes. And as a matter of fact, a lot of times when people are in the period of transition, they will see their loved ones before they left the Earth suit.

Oh, okay.

So because the energetic frequency, Remember I briefly mentioned the different levels, like, in terms of, like, the higher energy moves, the less tangible or physical it is. So you're actually vibrating at a higher frequency. Your energy is moving faster and higher as you're leaving the Earth suit because you're detaching from the. From the body. So you will start then at that point, noticing and seeing frequencies and matching to frequencies and vibrations that are not where you were at because you're evolving and you're shifting. Does that make sense?

Yes, for sure.

Radio station. That's exactly. You know.

Nowadays everything's streamed online. But back in the day, right, like, tune in.

Yeah, yeah.

Or actually change a channel.

Yes, right. So.

So that's. That's what it is. That's what's happening. So when we're fearing, for example, dying. It's just that we're too attached to the physical body. That's all that's happening.

Wow.

And to physical reality, the material world, it's complicated. It's not an easy process. But the more you can access that divine higher part of you that. That higher soul that's not connected to the body, the easier it is for you to understand and grasp. Oh, okay. I am not that mean the body.

Yeah, right. Yeah.

I'm actually not the body. I'm not these feelings, I'm not the emotions.

I have them.

Yeah, I have them, but I'm not them.

And that's observe them. Right.

There's the whole idea of detachment.

So I will link up. I will link to your program and everything in the show notes. I will even include some of the books that I like that people can explore further. And they can. So I'll link it all up. But where we've covered a lot of ground today, I would say, and we should do another one soon. But where can listeners find you?

Sure. Absolutely. So I have a website, terryhuberman.com and I've also given your listeners a link there with a free gift that helps actually manage anxiety. It's a PDF, how to guide manage your anxiety so that you can actually access your intuition.

Oh, anxiety.

Kind of like block getting into that higher divine part of ourselves. So there's that how to guide. And I'm on social media. I have a YouTube channel. I have a. I'm on Instagram @inf. Intuitive. Terry Huberman.

Yeah.

So you just. Even if you were to just Google Terry Huberman, you'll find me.

I'm.

I show up.

Yes. Awesome. Oh, I'm sure. And thank you so much. And we'll definitely. This has been awesome, informative and unique and I think that the listeners will love it and we'll probably want more. So like I said, I will put all your info and link up and I hope to talk with you soon. You've been listening to Visible Panty Lines, the podcast back in action now. So look for some new episodes coming soon. Thank you.