Wes SpencerCo-Founder, Empath · Co-Founder of Empath | Recovering Cybersecurity Guy| Keynote Speaker | 2020 Cyber Educator of the Year | Building the MSP Workforce Operating System

🎙️ NEW LIVESTREAM SERIES ALERT—Above the Stack

14 Aug 2025 · 1 min

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In this promotional intro for the "Above the Stack" livestream series, two speakers contrast typical tool‑centric conversations with a higher‑level focus on security maturity, leadership, strategy, and measurable outcomes for Managed Service Providers (MSPs). Speaker B dismisses the importance of specific technology stacks, emphasizing that clients care about results, not the tools. Speaker A positions the series as moving beyond buzzwords and checklists, urging MSPs to lead by adopting mandatory security frameworks such as CIS. The overall message is that business outcomes and security differentiation, rather than individual tools, should drive MSP offerings.

Communications arrays are aligned.
Nobody cares about your stack, bro. It's the truth. Your clients don't care. Your tools, they're not really all that important. I'll tell you what is important: security maturity, leadership, strategy, and outcomes that drive to a difference.
We're stepping above the noise, the checklist, the buzzwords. This is where MSPs stop guessing and start leading, because frameworks like CIS, they're no longer optional. Welcome to Above the Stack, where business meets technical and security becomes your differentiator.
It's time to go from operating in the weeds to owning the airspace. Control all lead. Signing off. We will see you there.