The Path - Jeremy Hoffman

I went through this really dark phase of my life where I got into using drugs, I got into selling drugs. I was in and out of the hospital at like, 18 years old. Whatever it is that I wanted, I could spend, I could afford, I could do. I was. I was set, but I was miserable. I was broken inside. And that led me on a path of really starting to explore why I was doing what I was doing, why I was feeling what I was feeling, and ultimately, how could I heal my body more holistically?

Welcome to the Path to Purpose podcast where I share incredible conversations with amazing humans who went through a pivotal shift in their lives that have put them on their path of purpose, profit, and impact. My name is Zarek Fatah. I'm a serial entrepreneur and life coach. I went through my own transformational journey where I'm now committed to living life of inspiration, education, and empowerment. My intention is to share these conversations so they inspire you to also walk your path to purpose. We are here at the beautiful Casa Madera, shooting the Path to Purpose podcast. Today I have an amazing guest, fellow Canadian, Jeremy Hoffman. And what I love about this guy is he is on an incredible mission. And he believes in a future where science, technology, and spirituality meet, and I believe the same. Where the world no longer is suffering from constant disconnection and loneliness. Plagued by stress and fatigue, our world has forgotten what it feels like to be alive. And if you all know me, that's my mission, to make the world alive. He designs products, programs, and conscious businesses that cultivate states of connection through the physical, emotional, mental, and virtual planes of reality. He's a founder of Oasis Athlogenics and Quantum Wellness Spa. He's a co founder of Aligned Earth, and he's here to help build the movements that shift humanity out of disconnection back into connection with themselves and others around them. And this is why I'm so excited to have this conversation with Jeremy, because I feel him and I are on a similar mission, walking parallel paths. And I'm looking forward to diving deep into his story and sharing Jeremy Hoffman with you.

Thank you for having me.

Thanks for being here. Yeah, pleasure to meet you. We're actually meeting for the first time. We connected on Instagram and, you know, we had a chat before, and now it's nice to meet you in person and to, you know, get to know all about you.

Yeah, I love meeting, you know, going right into, like, a podcast setting with someone you have. You've met, but briefly or haven't gone deep in with.

Yeah. Because even, like, when I had good friends on my podcast who I've known for years, and, you know, we ask certain questions that maybe we wouldn't normally, because asking for the purpose of obviously educating the audience and, and in a situation like this, it's like everything they're going to learn today, listening and watching this podcast, I'm going to learn as well. So thank you for joining me. You know, first off, I just want to say that, you know, at the time of this recording, Jeremy is 29 years old. And what you've accomplished in your 29 years is really, really impressive. And from what I know of you, you're working on some really incredible projects. And yeah, of course I want to know all about that and, you know, what you are working on. And before we dive into that, I want to learn a bit more about who you are and what's happened in your life that have put you on this path of purpose, profit impact, and what inspired you to really start focusing your entrepreneurial endeavors into, you know, helping bring human. Human beings together for deeper connection.

Yeah, man. Thank you. And it's funny when you talk, When I talk to entrepreneurs, a lot of the time, they've had this, like, moment when they were a kid where they were like, selling lemonade or they were like, you know, one of my partners, he was selling elastic bands on, like, the school ground when he was in, like, when he was six years old. For me, it was typical. You know, I was selling lemonade. I was getting a newspaper route at a very early age. Both my parents, my mother, first generation from Switzerland. My father moved when he was 28 to Canada from the Netherlands. So both sides of my families came from somewhere else to Canada to build a better life. We don't come for money. There was no money. And they made the decision before I ever went to any school to homeschool me.

Oh, cool.

So my perception of, like, the world or programming is very different. I was never color with inside of the lines. Right. I. I've always learned by living. It's never been, you know, read a book and then try to implement. For me, it's always been, you're playing outside or you're building these blocks and you're learning physics from applying it from. From real life. And so I was born homeschooled. Homeschooled in Christian upbringing, which was quite strict. My parents were. Were more like, we don't want him to go to school. We don't want him to learn about evolution or Darwinism or anything. We want him to learn creation and looking back 29 year old version of me looking back, I'm like, wow, I'm so grateful that I was preserved in that way. However, in that moment, as a homeschooled Christian kid that was playing, you know, public sports and things like that, I felt really freaking weird, man. I was not normal, right? In a small farm town in Canada outside of Vancouver, I was like the homeschooled Christian kid, you know. And so most of my life, like, you know, up until 14, 15, I really struggled with wanting to be normal, which again, I do the opposite now. I do not want to be normal. I'm going against the grain. I didn't have that awareness at that time. And so what did happen is because I wasn't going to school as much and I would do my school in the evenings, I'd work for my dad, he owns a greenhouse, he grows flowers, poinsettias, hanging baskets, things like this. So by the time I was 12, I was already managing people while he was out doing deliveries. I was figuring out more efficient ways to put soil into pots and how to move the pots and get them planted. And there was no machinery or cool technology. So my brain from a very young age was always thinking, how do I do things more effectively and quicker? That's been like programmed into me from, you know, a very early age. However, with the resistance or with the tension that I was feeling about being weird or not normal, I ended up rebelling super hardcore against my parents, against Christianity, against anything of religious connotation. It was kind of shoved into my field. You know, people say down your throat, but for me it's like it's the field of energy. So it's like, you know, into my field. And it led me on a path where I got into using drugs, I got into selling drugs. And from the age of about 17 to 22, 23, I went through this really dark phase of my life where I was doing steroids, I was doing blow. I was not the good, you know, drugs that the world isn't welcoming as much yet, but the ones that were really challenging and detrimental to my body. And I was in and out of the hospital for, you know, more than two years with walking pneumonias and autoimmune diseases at like 18 years old because I was pushing myself and my body so, so hard. And during this time I was doing construction. Like nothing crazy, but I had some side businesses. I was early on in like cannabis and built some of the early cannabis brands and, you know, a marketing agency that was doing this and started some Amazon fba. So my. My. My entrepreneurship was, like, coming back and expressing itself, but my foundation was like. I had a construction company. I was building homes, doing renovations. Now, fast forward a couple of years. I had two properties already. I bought my first one at 18, my second one at 21. My construction company was doing great. You know, the side hustles were doing great as well. And I was miserable during this time. I got married. So I had the house, I had the cool truck, I had the cool toys. I could go on any trips I wanted. You know, go to the restaurants, go downtown, go to the clubs, get bottles. Whatever it is that I wanted, I could spend, I could afford, I could do. I was. I was set. But I was miserable. I was broken inside. And that led me on a path of really starting to explore why I was doing what I was doing, why I was feeling what I was feeling. And ultimately, how could I heal my body more holistically? How could I start to, you know, repair the damage that I had done over the past number of years? There was a moment. There was a moment where I decided I wanted to get rid of everything. You know, my wife had decided to leave me. I was at this, like I said, I don't know, rising of the Phoenix moment where I felt like I had lost everything. I was at rock bottom. And I made the decision to sell my houses, liquidate the company, liquidate all of the things that I owned, and go all in on building companies that I believe would make the world a better place. And I pinpointed the pain points in the areas where I fell. Where I fell into addiction or consumption or addiction from drugs or porn or what workaholism, whatever it may be. And I. I looked at the world and I looked at the trends, and I looked at what was happening in Asia and other cultures, and I pulled all of that energy, all of that focus into building companies that I believe provide those solutions to people.

Wow, that is quite the beautiful journey that you just shared. And, you know, first off, thank you for being so open and vulnerable, all of that. And I'm curious to know, as I hear you share about this, even though you had a different upbringing and sounds like you had loving and supportive parents, and you were not necessarily in danger or threatened, what. What do you feel it was that had you go down that dark path? Like, what was the pain that you were trying to numb yourself from? Because I'm a believer that people don't necessarily get high or drunk because they like how it makes them feel. It's actually how it doesn't make them feel. So what was it that had you go down that path? Was there any specific incident or was it from feeling maybe like you were alone or like you weren't normal as you said? Like, what was it that put you down the path?

Yeah, I mean, I, I, I like the opportunity to share this, right. Because I've tracked this back through layers of like teenagers, young child, and back even to like 8 month old baby, right. Going through my experiences of like, what really led this, because for me, I think in my work with other humans as well is we, we think that trauma is maybe coming from this like, super traumatizing event. You, you've been raped or you've been beaten or something really bad has happened that you can remember. But in my work with, you know, one of my past clients, she had this deep abandonment wound and we were looking for it, we were trying to understand it. And, you know, as we were in the state of meditation, I saw this image of her at like four, four and a half years old outside of a warehouse. And I was like, hey, like I see you or a young girl in your field outside of a warehouse, like, what was going on? And she's like, she starts crying. She's like, my mom forgot me outside of gymnastics class.

Wow.

And that's where I get goosebumps in this moment, right? And, and that my whole body. And that was the moment, the core moment where she picked on again, not, you know, generational trauma, but in, in her lifetime, maybe it was triggered, you know, something even longer. But in this lifetime was this moment of her being left outside gymnastics class. That was the core of her abandonment wound, that's followed her into all of these relationships with men. Now the reality of that situation is that her mom had three other kids, was leaving work, was super busy. This is before calendars and notifications in her phones, Right. And just flat out forgot, not intending to traumatize. So you mentioned, you know, I have loving, you know, potentially loving parents. It was what you had shared. I agree that I think my parents were very loving. They did the best that they could. My childhood was really rocky with them. It was really challenging. There was a lot of emotional and physical abuse. Not because they were trying to not love me. That's the way that they knew how to protect and love me. Now as a young child, that led to a lot of abuse and a lot of pressure. Even little things like my dad, I love him to death, but, you know, I wouldn't eat until we would finish something in the nursery in the greenhouse. Right. So a couple years ago during COVID I was trying to figure out why I was working so hard before I would eat a meal. Right. I needed to feel complete in order to reward myself. And I was losing weight because I was barely eating because I was so hyper focused, which is a blessing that I can hyper focus and work so hard, but it's detrimental to my health. And so while the upbringing, you know, I did have two parents that are still together. Even though there's rocky moments that really did love me, it was very challenging. And the main thing for me was that religion that was being, you know, kind of forced into the field just didn't make sense. It felt very hypocritical to me. And I want, at a young age I was looking at, you know, governance, societies and medical systems and things like this and it all felt backwards to me. Like as a child, the whole world kind of felt upside down and backwards and has like, so we pay this, but this is what happens. Or we go and we get, you know, a symptom or a band aid to the problem, but we're not looking deeper. Same with, for me, religion, it, it lacked the depth and the explanation of our multidimensionality. And so the combination of those experiences led me to feel enraged and to feel angry that I wanted an outlet or I wanted to rebel. You and turn off from, you know, everything that I had suppressed from 0 to 17, 18 years old.

Got it. And because of your parents and their beliefs, you didn't feel safe going to them to share with them what you were going through?

Correct. If I would have, like, I was, you know, beaten for accidentally tipping over the, the glass of milk at the, you know, at the dining room table.

Okay.

Right. Asking too many questions or things like this. Right. So like I never, I was sneaking out of the home and like, you know, illegally driving our cars at like, you know, 15, 16 years old in Canada. I didn't feel safe going to them, I didn't feel safe talking to them. They were the last. If I was in trouble, they would be the last person that I would have called.

Got it.

Growing up.

So you really felt alone and out there on your own.

Yeah. And then didn't have a lot of, you know, friends because I was like starting to rebel against the church. But then I wasn't really allowed to hang out with too many non religious people too. So I did feel very isolated in my journey going back. It was even crazy. This was in a DMT experience, one of my Healers back at home, longer story. He builds geometry objects. And he came to me. He's like, hey, I'll keep this real quick. This is fascinating. He's like, all right, so we're gonna listen to your gene. The shadow of your Gene Keys. He's like, we're gonna listen to the entire thing. And he's like, you're gonna program that into this piece of geometry that he had built. And it had, like, a spiral in it. I forget what shape it was. I was like, okay. He's like, after the shadow meditation of the Gene Keys. And maybe we explored that. Or not. But anyone who wants to know. Jinkies. It's pretty cool. We're gonna replay your trauma is gonna replay itself to you after you hit the DMT.

Wow.

And I'm like, okay, so 20 minutes, I'm programming my shadow into this geometry while he's playing the gongs beside me. The meditation ends. He comes over, gives it to me. I take a breath. Usually dmt, I mean, I've gone to black realms, but I've also gone into very colorful, immersive realms. This was just a black and white video of me at 8 years old. Like, black or 8 months black and white, frame by frame. Like I was watching a movie in the 70s or the 50s, whatever it is. And there's me, eight months old, crying in my crib, needing wanting attention, love, and affection from my mother. And it just never, ever came. And I was like, whoa, this probably happens to a lot of children. I'm not trying to victimize, you know, but that was the memory that came. That for whatever reason, that moment in time really installed this, like, level of initiating abandonment of this fear. You know, pair that with feeling isolated and lonely. I really did feel alone, and I felt abandoned by the world against me. So I kind of flipped that around and, you know, attack that, you know, to protect that wound itself. So that's even one layer deeper. Yeah, no, thank you for sharing that, because not victimized. Yeah.

And to your point earlier, you said, like, you know, trauma doesn't always have to be some massive disruptive event. It could be something as similar as daddy comes home, you running to him with open arms, and he's too busy on his phone, and he doesn't pick you up. And then it's like, I'm not good enough for Daddy's love. And we have that belief that's developed from that initiating incident that we then look to have validated unconsciously in our life that, you know, I'm not good Enough people don't give me attention, you know, and then you develop ways to compensate. So that guy who's always got to be funny or the girl who's always going to be super sexy, it's like we then develop that false self to try to compensate for who we don't. Who we don't think we are. Right. And it's only when we start to recognize, okay, there's this pattern that's looping in my life. There's a behavior that I'm constantly putting out there that's actually sabotaging my happiness, my success, my love, relationships, whatever. It's only when we become conscious to the pattern and then we have the courage to look at like, okay, well, where does this pattern come from? You know, like, what do I actually believe about myself that I'm allowing this to happen? And for me, something kind of similar has to do with, like, my parents, their marriage, my relationship with my mom growing up, and how I embrace love or hide from it. Right. So it's interesting that, you know, the adults we become are so rooted in those formative years between 0 and 6, and often it's between 0 and 18 months that we are most impressionable. Because, you know, when we're that young, like you said, you're crying in your crib at 8 months old. You're thinking without thinking, they left me. I'm not good enough. They don't love me. Why aren't they coming to get me? The world's not safe. I can't count on anyone. Of course, your young mind isn't consciously registering that, but that's the belief that becomes the imprint on you.

Yeah. And it's. It's crazy too. Not crazy. It's more and more of that. You know, even the parenting styles that are known now. Is my parents the style. They've never told me this, but reflecting back was the more let your kid cry it out and figure it out for himself. Right? Which there's different types of parenting styles now. They say, hey, it's actually better to go comfort your child until they stop. But people don't want their kid to then be hyper dependent on them, which. That's a larger conversation. I'm excited to be a parent one day to explore that. But again, there was lots of these moments throughout my young childhood. They believed that they were doing what was best for me.

They learned from their parents.

They learned from their parents, or what they may have read in a book that that was the best thing to do. Right. And so my younger life there Was a lot of resentment built up towards them and it was actually in and like just for everyone listening. Like, I used to love plant medicine. I haven't done any plant medicine other than a little bit of microdose of mushrooms. But I have sat with Aya a number of times and you know, other psychedelics and medicines. It was in my first Ayah journey where it showed me all of these moments with my parents, but it showed me them as a child, the traumatized inner child in them.

Wow.

Traumatizing or you know, passing that through to me, I get goosebumps. And I was like, whoa. I'm like, they were just doing the best that they knew how. Wow. I have so much compassion.

Yeah.

And love for them. And so that radically changed my relationship with them, which it wasn't rainbows and, you know, butterflies. After that moment, there was still a lot of deeper work for me to do and how I communicated and how we work through that. But now the relationship that I have with my parents is better than anything I could have ever possibly imagined. Like not in a million. If you asked 18 year old Jeremy, will you have this type of relate this loving, you know, connected relationship with your parents at 28, 29, I didn't even think it was possible.

Yeah. And that's why I'm a firm believer that we are the generation to disrupt the generational trauma. Like because we have coaching, plant medicine retreats, workshops, we have the tools to have the conscious ability to reflect on our childhood and see our parents from a place of compassion, empathy, and really choose to love them even with all their defects, knowing that they actually did the best that they could and they actually thought they were doing what was best for you. And to your point, what you saw with your parents during that Aya journey, I as well, when I see my mom, I see the hurt little girl who lost her mom, was taken away from her family when she was five years old. And I see this scared, tiny little girl who decided that in order for the world to listen to her, in order for her to feel safe, she has to use her mouth and she can say things and she could act tough and she could, you know, flex however she can verbally because she can't physically, because she's just a tiny little girl. And that helped me to have so much more compassion for my mom realizing like that's just a scared little five year old girl who doesn't think the world is safe. And that's why she says the things she do. She does. And when we have that Shift. It doesn't make everything right or make everything go away, but you start to see your parents in a different way that has you emotionally react and consciously respond in a new way. And that's, that's what healing is really. Right.

Yeah. And it ripples out. We're talking about the world of quantum, you know, probably later too. And the world, how it ripples out. And after that moment, you know, in a ceremony till, you know, the time where the relationship was on the way up, I had, you know, gone back to my parents and bolstered the courage to say, hey guys, like I need to. Or I feel the need to communicate this level of like trauma and I want to work through this with you. And they both kind of laughed and said, we never traumatized you, you traumatized us. And I was like, oh shit, okay, I need, I need to go do some more work and then I'm going to come back.

Yeah.

I was like, that was not what I like finally had the courage, you know. So I come back after studying authentic relating non violent communication and doing different workshops, I came back and said, hey, I am so sorry for the trauma that I have triggered or inflected on you. From the way that I acted as a child or like as a teenager, I was, I was ruthless at some times at points as well. Right. And I like, if I have caused you harm, if I have done that, I want to take full responsibility for that. I'm sorry. And they both started to cry.

Beautiful.

And they forgave me.

And then that created opening. Yeah.

Said sorry. What they may have done, yes, unintentionally, but what they may have done to cause and that moment. And so for people that are listening that, you know, are working on this with their parents, I, you know, ate the humble pie fully. I take full responsibility for my actions. They could have done the worst of worst things. And my parents were pretty good for the most part. But like, I still, what responsibility could I take? And I, I want to add this too, because I feel like it's important is responsibility does not shame, blame or make excuses for self or others. So this isn't like something really fucked up has happened to you and you're just taking responsibility like the victim kind of. No, like don't shame yourself or blame yourself, but taking the responsibility in the situation for what you may have done to contribute to it. I think responsibility can be slightly toxic if it's, you know, done from a wounded place. But for me it was from the empowered place, the victor place of saying, hey, I acknowledge that I contributed to this. This was a relationship. This is, you know, communication, which is sending and receiving. And I had to clear my side, whether they forgave me or not, whether they apologized or not. That's. I can't control that.

Yeah, you can all be responsible for how you choose to let the experience impact you and be responsible for your emotions. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. And similar. Yeah, I'm glad you shared that because, you know, I'm sure for many people listening who have resent towards their parents, who are blaming their parents for however their life may have turned out, until you take ownership of what happened and acknowledge your part in what went down and be able to accept that you're a co creator of the situation, then you're going to continue to have that resentment and frustration. And that's not how you're going to heal or move past it. Because we have to have gratitude, appreciation for what life gave us in order for us to fully let it go and heal from it. And that's a journey. I mean, this is part of why our souls came to Earth School is to go through these different challenges and experiences for us to grow. And, you know, for a lot of my clients who have issues with their parents, I ask them, what if you chose your parents before you were born? What if you consciously chose these two humans to be your parents? Because there's something that you need to experience from these parents that were going to help your soul to grow. What do you think? Why do you think? What was the reason that you chose them as your parents? And you know, obviously it's a major paradigm shift for people because most of us don't think we chose our parents. But I believe that before our soul incarnates, we choose a lot of our circumstances because a part of us knows, yeah, I need to go through these challenges in order for me to get to that next level. You know, I always like to say, like, life is like a video game, you know, and we get to play it and make different choices, whether it could be do it consciously or unconsciously. And those choices determine whether or not our soul evolves to the next level. And, you know, I do have a pretty interesting family history. And on the other side of the trauma of that, I could see how it's all been absolutely perfect. And I wouldn't change a thing about it. And that is the healing, that is the growth. Because now, just like you aspire to be a father, one of my deepest desires as well, I know that I've Disrupted and broken, the generational trauma and the patterns and behaviors that have been looping in my family, and that it stops with me, you know, and when I have my children, I get to raise them from a place of being more healed and complete.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was speaking to someone responsible for developing a lot of the engineering on the space station recently, and we were talking about helping people with trauma, and she made a comment at the end saying, don't take out too much of their trauma. They need to learn. And I was like, whoa. And so similar to you, I'm excited to have broken a lot of the generational trauma. And the reality is, unintentionally, through a single moment, our children might still have some of their own in that lifetime that they'll have to work through. And I do believe that life is a beautiful game, and I do believe we choose a lot of those circumstances in order to grow. And the gamification throughout all of these experiences, whether it was my wife leaving at that time or my parents or the health, kind of like a video game, as you overcome that boss or that challenge, you get more xp, you get more value points. I'm not even a gamer, you know, but you get more things, and then you, you know, get better food or you buy this, you know, new car, you get a different sword, or, you know, whatever the the game is, you get to integrate that learning, that experience back into your life, which usually enhances your life more in some way. And I look at life as the same way every time I overcome something, even though it's really fucking hard in the moment, in the moment of turmoil or challenge, I'm thinking, all right, I know I'm gonna find a way through this. There's no other option. It's either that or I'm gonna die. There's no other option. As long as I choose to live, I'm gonna keep going. And what is the learning? Like, what. What extra like, jetpack am I gonna get after I get through this? It's gonna be fricking awesome.

Yeah. And that's often what I reflect on, that keeps me going during those hard times. It's like, okay, this sucks right now, and this doesn't make sense, but I'm going to trust that God has given me this experience for me to grow. And the resistance I'm feeling towards this experience is the attachment that I have to the identity or the beliefs that I have that maybe I need to let go of in order to overcome this. And every time I lean in and choose that perspective, and believe that life is happening for me, not to me. I am then in an empowered place where life is happening through me, and I get to actually choose how I want to experience the experience. And that is conscious creation, you know, that we are that powerful and that we always have a say in what happens. Right?

Yeah.

So I imagine that with all that you've learned and the journey that you've been on with your family and coming out the other end after, you know, know, the. The drugs, the partying, all the things that you were into, you now have this epiphany moment. You sell off everything. You realize this isn't it. The cars, the homes, the money, the girls, the trips, man, it ain't it. There's something else now, so I'm super curious to hear. How were you able to create what you have? Like, where did that inspiration come from? And obviously, you've been an entrepreneur since your first lemonade stand, but what was that like going from walking away from everything and starting something completely new from scratch?

Yeah, it's been a mission. And it's really funny. I don't know. I don't think you knew this, but I co authored a book when international bestseller, done really well. It's called healthapedia. The name of my chapter in that book is From Victim to Victor. The slogan is life is happening for you, not to you. And that was the entire chapter that I wrote was on that. So due to the between, you know, 17, 18 and 23, I was brushing up along shoulders with a lot of pretty rough guys back where I lived. And as I came through these, you know, revelations, and I had, you know, gone to Bali and Thailand and learned breath and movement and different energetic practices. So I came back to the, you know, America, Canada, and I was like, people aren't doing this stuff. There was yoga, but people weren't really doing breath work yet. This is 2018, right? So 5.

Wim Hof hadn't blown up yet.

Wim Hof was starting to. Yeah, right. So there was guys in Bali, Lee, Davey, and others, you know, doing Wim Hof type stuff. But here it wasn't as, you know, mainstream. At least my algorithms were not showing it to me. Right. And so. Which is a whole nother consumption conversation that we might dive into. It's fun. But regardless, I came back. A lot of the people in my network were drug dealers, gangsters, you know, had served time or were in the crazy party lifestyle, nightlife, whatever it was. And so I was like, okay, I really want to start with what's in front of me, right? I always believe God, Source universe is giving us clues. It's just a matter of if we're going to listen to them. Like I actually believe life is quite simple, but that doesn't make it easy. It's like what we need to do is like simple. But ending a relationship is a simple decision, but it's not easy. And you know, there's a lot of other steps that go with it. So long story short, I ended up. It was psilocybin that cracked me open originally and just radically transformed my life. When I was healing my body, when I started to replace any stimulants with functional mushrooms. Lion's mane, cordyceps, chaga, turkey tail, these were almost single handedly responsible from a supplement level, the things that helped bring my body back online. So it was a natural progression that I actually started to offer, you know, sessions sitting with, you know, psilocybin. I'd been learning. The woman that I had married, her mother had been an ayahuascaro for a number of years. And so I was brought in. I'd sat in, you know, well over 100 ceremonies and had angel through different events as well. So learn that that world. And I started facilitating with ex drug dealers and gangsters and some guys that you know. One of the gentlemen that I'm going to speak to, you know, he had overdosed on Hastings street, got his shit together, came down to LA and started one of the most epic tech companies that I know, right? So that gentleman came and sat with me. One of my friends had brought him. He's an incredible guy. He's a professional hockey player. He's the enforcer on a pro team now and we still do lots of beautiful work together. And so he brought me and he kind of just gave me this look after the session. He said, hey, that was the most incredible like breathwork, meditation, psilocybin experience like I've ever had in my life. What do you want to create, kid? It was kind of like, you know, hey kid, what do you want to do? We went out for dinner and I was working on this like custom towel company when I was in Asia. There was these incredible like stretchy towels that I used for sun. I used to protect myself from the sun. I used to keep me warm at night. But there was no cool design on it. So I was working on creating cool design towels. So I told him this idea, I'm like, I want to revolutionize the way towels are sold. And he's like, nah, it's everyone, anyone else can do that. Okay. He's. I was like, I want to make sure that everyone in Canada has access to microdose mushrooms. And he's like, there you go. That's leveraging some of your strengths. So we worked together to launch some of the early microdose brands in Canada. We built an agency that was able to help. He had come from cannabis marketing. So we built an agency that was able to help a lot of the early microdose brands. I ended up getting connected to Robin Carhead Harris at Imperial College and a couple other public psychedelic companies starting to actually bring this forward in a major way. That starting the microdose company, because I was in Canada where a lot of the psychedelic companies are, were popping up over the next last five, ten years. Brought me into this opportunity where I had guys from capital markets and venture capital and, you know, funds saying, hey, what do you know about microdosing? Can I get some? I'm hearing about it, like, I want to try it. That led me into providing, you know, through. Through others, you know, this microdose opportunity. And then that led me into, oh, wow. There's a bunch of these successful men primarily that are, you know, very well off, have done well in business, but they need help. Their lives are in shambles internally. Did some work with Gerard Adams, you know, from a early Gerard Adams, from his like, coaching and masterminds and things like that. Learned a good foundation and started coaching people. And I was like, okay, this is great, but the one on one thing, like, I want more, like I want to help more people. This is limiting. So then I started an event, like a mindfulness event organization called Connected Community. And we would do up to 11 events every month. Breath work, mindfulness, cold plunging, human relating, sound baths, ceremonies, all of that. And I could go on the whole progression. It's a long line. I've had the opportunity of being part of 12 companies in the last five and a half years. Most of them I have founded, funded, some that I've like, you know, Connected Community just kind of did its thing. I moved on. Right. Some that have been exited as well that I've been part of. And the common thread between all of these different things is I'm in the right place at the right time. And I daily come back to this place of alignment of God's source universe. Where are you wanting my energy to go? What are. What am I being asked to cultivate, to alchemize and to create in this world? And having the ability to have sold my House. I had funds. Having the drive, you know, like, hard, disciplined work ethic from a young age, which a lot of people don't get integrated. And having a passion of, like, my health, my life was at rock bottom. That gave me all of the fuel that I needed. All of those three things like, you know, oxygen, heat, and fuel to actually combust and just go. And I've just, you know, had incredible, incredible opportunities. Meeting the right investors, the right organizations, having the right ideas, like just applying myself to think ahead, you know, where's the world going, what's needed and. And building something that will have value.

Yeah, I love that. And, you know, from what you shared about your journey, you know, it seems like you. You checked a lot of the boxes as far as conventional success as to what a guy, you know, a man's supposed to have to be happy, you know, achieve that. You got it. And then it's like, okay, well, now what? And it always comes back to service, right? Because the fancy truck, big house, you know, all those things. Yeah, they're. They make you happy for a few weeks, few months maybe at most, but they don't give you true fulfillment. And true fulfillment comes from finding your inner purpose. And your inner purpose, ironically, has nothing to do with you. It all has to do with who do you get to be for others. Right. Who do you get to help and how to be of greatest service. And from what I understand, I'd love for you to share more about, you know, know, the Quantum Wellness Spa and some of these other projects you're working on, because from what you've shared with me and what you're working on, seems like it's all about how to help bring people together, but also how to ra. Raise human consciousness and how to basically amplify what it is that you've discovered for yourself now to the masses. So, you know, please, I would love to learn more about Quantum Wellness Spa and some of the other amazing projects that, like, are actually happening right now, like, literally being built as we speak.

Not that far away. Yeah. And it's so beautiful. So when I was going through the challenging, you know, 17 to 23, one of the core crutches that I was having was significant use of caffeine, which caffeine is, I would say, the. One of the most, if not the most normalized, psychoactive drug on the planet.

Yeah, as you say. So actually thinking about having coffee, Right.

Oh, dude. And I forgot to bring one of our products called not coffee. I was like, oh, no, I will. Yeah, so. So it was coffee. Right. And. And. Which is crazy, you know, the other one is, you know, sugar, which is, you know, everywhere. Not to say that caffeine is bad. Not to say even that nicotine is bad sometimes. Not to say that sugar's bad. We're here on this earth to enjoy moderation. However, for me, I was a strategic advisor for a company called mindleep Health, which was a psychedelic integration app that paired people that were struggling with addiction with people like professors and therapists during COVID Because Covid.

Right.

There's a lot of addiction going on. So we acted very quickly to provide, like a telemedicine platform with a psychedelic integration backend. And when I was doing research for this cause, my whole thing was nervous system regulation and stress. That's what I identified going through my life. High stress, high anxiety. Like the autoimmune was from chronic stress. Right. And I don't think that people realize that stress is defined at how you respond to stressors. A stressor is defined at anything that takes thought or action. So, like me snapping my fingers is actually a stressor. If you've ever done muscle testing, any little movement will completely make you weak. It's a stressor and how your body's responding to that. And so in this age that we live, where there's so much technology, screens, notifications, air pollution, food, gmo, like there's all of these new stressors in our lives, right? How we respond to that is what determines our stress level. And so for me, with the chronic stress, which led to the low immune system and the pneumonias and the autoimmune and, you know, low libido. My wife that had left me, we weren't having sex. I had no drive. And what did she do? She ended up being with someone else while I was on a trip. I'm very disappointed, but I couldn't even blame her. So all of these things played a huge role in my life, especially as a man. Right? That's like, that's what you. You want to show up, no pun intended. And. And so I bring this all back. The current company or the current thing that I identified when I was doing research for Mind Leap. And stress was the same demographic of people that were the most stressed out were the same demographic of people that were drinking more than about two and a half cups of caffeine or coffee on average. So the most stressed out people were also the people that, interestingly enough, generalized stereotypically were drinking the most amount of caffeine. Interesting. And so when I went back in my journey, I was drinking a thermos of coffee every single day, right? A lot of caffeine, about 1000mg, including pre workouts and all these other things. So the thing that I created through the company Oasis, Adaptogens, we create, formulate and manufacture adaptogen products. So when you see lion's mane in a beverage, you know, we might be supplying that as an example. When you see that in, you know, a blend of, you know, a new product, or we make them for influencers or brands, we're making these types of products. But I created a product, you know, created the formulation myself. It was called not coffee. And so we created 16 different herbs, mushrooms, minerals, ashwagandha, shilajit, like, high dosages of these ingredients, all of the lion's mane, cordyceps, chaga, all these mushrooms. This blend basically, like, healed my gut and re energized my body with very little caffeine instead of coffee. And so years later, after I had created this, I'm thinking about a product and I'm like, what actually really helped me, like, what was that thing that I was like, replacing coffee with this blend? I'm like, and I haven't turned this into a product yet. I'm like, what am I doing? So for me, it was nervous system regulation, reducing stimulation and finding ways to increase my ability to handle stress, which is literally what adaptogens or adaptogenics do for the body. So under Oasis, our biggest thing right now is not coffee. It's incredible. We're working on some really bold partnerships with celebrities and such here in la, which we're.

I.

Once I have that news, it'd be fun to update the audience on it. We're doing some cool stuff. And so that's not coffee. We really wanted to create a new way to re energize, to focus without the traditional hustle culture. I don't know the full demographic of your podcast, but if we actually look at the Industrial revolution and when we brought in coffee and smoke breaks, and we look at the half life of nicotine and caffeine, about every two and a half to three hours in a traditional workday, you have a, what, a coffee or a smoke break? What does nicotine and caffeine do? It keeps you awake and focused, but it crashes you after. So caffeine, the molecule binds to what's called adenosine, the adenosine receptors. It turns off the part of your brain that thinks you're tired, doesn't give you energy. It's like a debt you're borrowing energy from the future, which is fine. We leverage debt to build all kinds of stuff. We're always leveraging debt. We go bankrupt, we run out of energy, we run out of funds, whatever that is. And so we really are passionate about revolutionizing the way we energize, and not through traditional hustle culture. We're focused on the younger millennials and Gen Z's, and we're really inspired to have people wake up feeling different, because when you're drinking a lot of caffeine, whether you can sleep or not, it does impact the way that you are sleeping. If you're drinking it in the later afternoons, that can affect how rested you are when you wake up. You wake up, you're tired, what do you do? You drink more caffeine, and then you're in a cycle. Our goal is throughout that cycle to offer an alternative that's better for you and gives your body what it needs.

You love that. Yeah. And I'll usually wait probably about an hour to an hour and a half before I have my first coffee. And I'll have Mud water. Yeah, I'll have Mud Water. Make some oat milk. Because often it's just. I just want that warm beverage in the morning. And because it has many of the mushrooms that you mentioned, it helps with brain cognition, helps with all that. So I'd imagine your product is similar or would be a competitor to Mud Water.

We're probably the biggest competitor to Mud Water. We. I think they've done an incredible thing for the industry. Nothing, you know, nothing bad to say there. They also did create a good opportunity to create a better product. Right, right. I personally didn't like the flavor profile of it.

Yeah. That's why I got to add, like, flavored oat milk. Yeah. Because, yeah, I didn't like it.

For me, it didn't mix well. Didn't mix well. And the potency wasn't there. For me, as someone who really wanted, you know, high potency and really high quality ingredients, albeit, our goal is never to scale that big. So I have full control over the quality of our ingredients. But what makes us unique is the mixability. You don't need a. You can just mix it with a spoon, and it mixes really quite well. Not 100%. Almost 100%. You don't need to sweeten it. We don't. We didn't add any sugar or sweeteners, but you don't need to sweeten it. It actually tastes good by itself. But you can if you want, or add whatever Else, but I drink it, you know, black. And the potency we. Some of the ingredients are biodynamically farmed. They're phenomenal. And there's about two times the amount of ingredients and in the product a lot more of the good stuff and better quality. Good stuff.

All right, well, I look forward to getting my sample.

You're getting it. Yeah.

So sounds amazing. And no doubt it is something that people need right now because many of us are pretty hooked on coffee, for sure. I'm curious to know the Quantum Wellness Spa. And you know, from what you've told me, it sounds very, very, very. It sounds totally up my alley. So I want to, I want to understand because it's actually being built right now and from what you've shared, it has like the largest rooftop venue space in Los Angeles, like two acres large. Like what, what is it that you got planned for this Quantum Wellness spot?

All right, well, I'm going to take you on a bit of a journey. All right. And so we have three distinct zones. There's three zones. There's the refresh zone, the Rejuvenate zone, and the remember zone. So you'll understand the depth and the intention of this, right? You have your people that are interested in biohacking longevity. You know, they're willing to try B12 shots, IVs, compression pants, maybe some light therapy, infrared sauna, some facials. You know, they're not like, there's nothing wrong with that, but they're just, they're hearing about it, it's trending. They want to live longer, they want to look better, they want to feel good, but they're not really doing any deeper work. They don't care as much about depth and community and like really knowing more about who they are. But they love these.

About the external.

More about the external. So the refresh area is our way to. And I'll tell you what's in these. But the Refresh zone helps refresh the body and the soul. The Rejuvenate Zone. Three zones. The Rejuvenate Zone is all about growth and connection. Inside of the Rejuvenate zone, there's a 40 person immersive sauna. So blacked out sauna. We have wood and lights that go up over top of it. Full sound system, full lighting design. We're even working with local DJs to create sets for, for the sauna.

Very cool.

Of course we'll have classes going on there. Our cold Plunge area. So this is all in the Rejuvenate. Our cold Plunge area. Has a Special Type of 3D printed material with lights behind it. So you're going to feel like you're in an ice cave that is alive and moving as you go into our cold plunges. Then in the earth room, we're importing quartz floors from India and we've drilled down into the earth copper rods. So our earth room is going to be completely grounded, grounded to the earth, overlaid with quartz that lights up. And we're bringing in woods and stones and plants, plasters, water to create this earth room that's fully grounded. And this will be our breathwork studio. This room will be for social interactions, but it'll also be for our breathwork classes. That's all in Rejuvenate. So growth and connection, growth through the contrast, growth through the connection, growth through the breath work and the other classes that we're going to facilitate. The refresh zone, as mentioned, it has your IVs and you know all of the biohacking types of stuff now the remember zone. So you come through the refresh, you've been refreshed, then you're curious about the rejuvenate and you're like, oh wow, like I can go and be with 20, 30, 40 other people, like minded individuals and go through this sauna and go through this cold plunge and go into this earth and like, okay, what's next on the journey? I believe that we're whole and we forget our wholeness. Yes. I don't believe that we're broken and we need healing. I believe that we're whole and we do healing in the process of remembering our wholeness. But it is to me about a remembrance of who we are, a remembrance of this wholeness. So our final section is called Remember. In there we have some unique pieces of energy based technology. One of our proprietary pieces of tech called the Quantum Energy Wellness Bed. It basically looks like a titanium table, which I'll talk more about, but unique rooms for our technology. Then we have like a bodywork and massage room. So that will have all of the latest and greatest from sound to light to fascia work to the acupuncture. We have some incredible practitioners that we work with here. So that will be the body work room going deeper into the layers of the body. And then we have a practitioner space which on rotation will have ayurvedic traditional Chinese medicine practitioners as well as stem cells and peptide consultations. All the bells and whistles, all the bells and whistles. And we're partnering with clinics and we have our own team to run all of our functional medicine reports as well. So we'll be able to go look at how your organs are doing or look at how your body's doing. And working with our medical director to create a plan for that. So I've taken you on a journey of the zones and I won't make it too long, but bear with me. We've brought in the company who created the scent for the one hotel chain and number of others to create a unique scent custom to our spa. We're working with an Emmy award producer to create custom soundscapes throughout the spa. And every inch of the location is custom designed. We brought in experiential interior designers to make every inch. No matter where you look, you'll see intention into our design. No matter where you smell, you'll feel the intention. No matter who you talk to, you'll notice the intention. And so this place, we're even wrapping copper around the outside of every single room and bringing in a leading expert to imprint and program the essence of each space of each room throughout the entire location. So this place is going to be. I haven't seen anything like this before. Yeah, it sounds like I, I was inspired because there's incredible places, you know, in Toronto and Vancouver that are very holistic, very bathhouse style. But then there's also very like in this world there's very like medical, it's very like medical feeling. And you know, some of the ketamine clinics and some of these others, they're, they're great but they're very limited and you know, the ability to create a unique environment, an experiential one. And so I've been working on this for years to really get all the pieces in place, to bring that all into one location. It's incredible also that where we've built this, the rooftop. The rooftop, you know, it's a nine floors but we're on the ground floor. So on the rooftop here we have access to the largest rooftop in North America. It's over two acres large. So we can throw up to a thousand person conferences, events, we've been already doing wellness events where there's music, there's breath work, there's cold plunging, there's saunas, there's IVs, there's cupping, all of the things that we like in an experiential environment. Outdoors, there's flowers everywhere, there's pool. It's. It's unlike anything that I've seen. And so my focus is really how do we create a ripple, how do we create a lighthouse in Downtown Los Angeles. They say that Los Angeles can be one of the most influential places on the planet. A lot of culture spreads out from la. However, when you're here there is a lot of homelessness, there is a lot of brokenness, there's a massive divide between the lower and the upper, upper class. And so our pricing is very fair, our education will always be free. Our, you know, events and experiences, we try to make it so that people come back. We're gamifying our memberships so that if you, you're a member and you donate at our affiliated charities or not for profits, you earn rewards that can go to services like the massage or the IVs. So we're gamifying our members ability to give back to their community which directly correlates to them receiving more health and wellness value. And we've donated or we've agreed to donate 10% of all profits back into the local community within a 10 mile radius of our front door. So as we scale this, we're already looking for other locations. We're well funded and you know, well connected. That will be something that reigns true at every location. So everywhere we go we will gamify the members and then we'll also donate back into the local community. Because if you're familiar with the torque field or you know, the quantum field theory, it is regenerative And I believe that more needs to be done in how we give back and I believe in building a profitable business. But if we are not actually sharing in that value back into our communities, back into our societies, we've been trying that for the last 50 years and it's not working. And so something more needs to be done. And it starts with community and it starts by giving back to those communities as well.

Absolutely. Yeah. That's so beautiful and that is a very impressive concept. You could tell by your passion and the attention to detail. It's been really, really well thought out and I can't to experience it in person. I hope you build one in Toronto or in Miami or coming. Yeah, because it sounds like an incredible facility and much needed as you know, bringing a lot of these mortalities and the processes and technologies that are really available now but the majority of the population don't know about them. And the more people that get plugged in, tuned up, you know, renewed, remembered, you know, it's, it's going to have the ripple effect of us doing our individual healing so that we can then inspire and lift others. Right.

So well it's ripple. Our front door is being custom Made in Portugal. It's the exact replication of a. A stone creating a ripple in water.

Wow.

So as you come in, you are creating a ripple. And as you leave back out into.

The world, ripple into the.

So what ripple are you creating? And we've gone through, we've created. The entry and exit is literally water, which is sign significant of birth in this life. We come in through water, but then also it's a ripple. Of what ripple are we creating in the world?

Yeah. No, I love that. And I was impressed before our conversation. I'm even more impressed with who you are and what you're creating. I just want to thank you for the ripple effect that you're creating here in Los Angeles. And I'm sure it'll go far and wide. I look forward to experiencing it for myself and just want to say, you know, thank you for the work that you do. You know, thank you for choosing to be on this path and choosing to be of service because the man with your connections and your resources, you could be doing a lot of things in the world. Right. And you're choosing to create that ripple to help others, to have the same healing spirit that you and I have. Both have. And I just want to acknowledge you for that. So thank you. Thank you for the work that you do. Thank you for joining me here today on this podcast and, you know, for those that want to learn more about Jeremy, for those who want to learn about Quantum, the Quantum Wellness Spa and the community that you've created and all the other things you got going on, I'm going to put down in the show notes below so people can reach out, learn more about who you are and what you do and. Yeah, man, I just want to say thank you for being my guest here on the Path podcast. Thank you for sharing all that you have so generously, and I look forward to getting to know you better and experiencing. Not coffee, because I could use one right now. And all the other magic of creating. So thank you, brother.

Appreciate it. Thank you for seeing me and for having me here.

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