Reaction To Andrew Tate and George Janko Interview & Vivek Dropping out

Tay on the George Anko podcast. It was two parts. Best podcast I've ever listened to, like, for sure.

I literally just listened to that two days ago, so good.

All righty, gang. That's how Christian usually opens these episodes, but what's up, everyone? Everyone, welcome back to the stick. Are you not ready?

Shotgun start, I guess.

Shotgun start, bro. Remember last episode you did, like, the intro 10 minutes into the episode. I mean, that's the whole point. You do just.

It was a good, clean, flowing conversation.

It was, like, perfect. And he's like, all right, ready, guys?

And he said it so angrily. I think it was because you were hungover that it came off as angry. Yeah, no, this is the start. Welcome back to Stick Talk, guys.

All right, let's actually start, like, I think let's get retention up and just go right, right for it.

We're already in, so.

But, like, everyone just left already.

We can. We can just think.

Did you guys leave already? Drop a comment below if you're still here. I.

Straight up, I think we should just like Vivek right off.

No, now this is funny. Let's just roll into it. All right, so we're first members Lounge episode of 2024. First members launch episode that self produced. So wish us best of luck. Honestly, if you're actually seeing this and it went well, obviously. So we'll roll right into it. We have a bunch of topics all over the place, anywhere from politics to sports to business to Alex Becker sleeping on the floor. And so we're just gonna cover a bunch of topics, see where we go, and kind of just use this as our own internal way of catching up with each other, catching up on what's happening in our lives and what we're interested in. So where do you guys want to start?

Let's talk about Vivek going from he's gonna.

He's gonna shock the world to. He just dropped out.

Yeah, I thought he was. I don't really know. I don't really follow it too much. Wasn't he. Was Trump criticizing him or did he criticize Trump?

No, I think that was kind of misinterpreted and overshot because anytime Trump goes after someone, like, he really goes after him. Like, he'll give him a nickname that people think is, like, offensive or. Or funny. But the way he went after vc, he really just said, like, a vote for Vivek is like a vote against his progress. Like, he didn't personally attack VC or call him names or say that he was doing anything wrong. So, like, he he, he didn't attack him the same way he's attacked Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, which I thought was super interesting. And then last night, even during his acceptance spe or his, his winner speech, I guess for the Iowa caucus, like he congratulated Vivek and that was even before Vivek dropped out of the race. So he's always been like super, I would say calm towards Vivek compared to how he's been towards other candidates, which, who knows, maybe that's setting up for a potential VP or I'm not sure. I guess we'll see. I know Vivek is going to New Hampshire tonight to Trump's rally, which is interesting. Pretty quick turnaround.

Damn.

Trump's got that retention funnel, bro. Unlock. I mean, everyone eventually just comes back to him. Like Marco Rubio endorsed him the other day and Marco Rubio is like boys with the Santos, who's still in the race. And then you have Ron Burgum who is on the debate stage like a month ago criticizing Trump alongside Christie and all these other guys. And he was on stage with Trump yesterday during his acceptance speech winning the Iowa caucus. So like all these guys that are like talking big game now, bandwagoners, they're. Yeah, they're all going to come, come back and be bandwagoners. So I just think it's funny because they talk a big game on stage when he's not around and then eventually they all just come back. Which is why I like Vivek from the start because he's never been the guy that's like, oh, anti Trump. And then now all of a sudden he's playing favorites. Like he's always been on Trump's side.

I don't think that's exclusive to Trump though. Every time there's a clear winner for a party to be the nominee, everybody else falls in line. That's happened forever. Yeah, it's just a two party system. Like people stop caring about the candidate that, that wants to win and they're like, okay, I'll just ride with this guy.

Because the Vex, the Vex, a crazy marketer. He was on a, like a frat Instagram page doing a promo video with them.

I was like, he was everywhere, bro. The last couple of days he was everywhere.

Yeah, I was.

I mean, we had our best performing YouTube video ever. I think it's at130,000 views now. And it was like a 3min of Gary Cardone talking about how he had VC over at his house for a Podcast interview. That was it. 130,000 views in the comments section was going insane.

Yeah.

So, like, this guy was obviously trending. And I think the projections last night for the Iowa caucus were pretty on point with what actually happened. Like, Trump won by 30 points. Nikki Haley and DeSantis were close. And then VC had like seven or eight points. Vivek was talking about. And Elon Musk even said Vivek was gonna win. Did you see that?

Yeah.

Elon Musk predicted that Vivek was gonna win the Iowa caucus, bro.

Danny hit that bet by 0.1%. He had that 7.

What was the bet?

It was 7.6, right?

Yeah.

Yeah. Seven and a half percent of the vote.

And would Vivek end up with 7.6? Oh, my.

Vegas knows.

That's so great. Shout out to Danny. He's honestly, out of any of the guys I know who bet sports, he's the one that consistently wins. And he. He puts a lot of money down when he bets. So. Yeah, remember we met him at the Jake Paul fight. That was the first time we met him. And he had, like, so much on Jake Paul winning.

Oh, shout out Ben Bader. On the podcast, we made a bet about the Steelers getting 10 wins. And he said, dinner. Whoever loses has to take us out to dinner. And he's like, I owe you dinner.

Did The Steelers get 10 wins?

Yeah.

How about last night? Did they win?

Dude, shut up. They did not stop.

But. All right, before we keep jumping to different topics, no real back into the. The politics, what do you think is going to happen with Vivek? What do you think's going to happen with the rest of the. The rest of the caucuses?

I think he dropped out. Right.

He's gonna be vp.

I don't think he'll be vp, but I think he'll be around for a long time. For him, like, who wants to be the Vice President of the United States?

Biden did it for eight years and now he's president.

Yeah, but he's a career politician. He has nothing else to do. Vivek is super famous. He's super smart, he's a great entrepreneur. He could do a million different things between now and when he wants to run for president.

True.

Yeah. I think he played his cards, like, extremely well. Like, especially for dropping out of the races early on.

Do you see that video of him giving, like, a valedictorian speech at his high school? This is the most well spoken person.

Yeah, because the, the common debate is like, he's like the Republican Obama. Because he's well spoken.

Yeah.

And that like, this is for politics or for stage, but like, that's just how he's always been. If you go back to like the valedictorian speech from high school, there's just like always been chronic. Captivating. Yeah. And captivating. Like a great public speaker.

Yeah.

Which is obviously huge. But yeah, he's. He's interesting. I love Vivek. Honestly, I'll. I wouldn't be surprised if he's president one day in our lifetimes. He's 38, I think, which is like crazy to think about. 38 years old.

What's the age to be president? 35.

35. Yeah. Honestly, between now and the election, I don't really care about politics at all. You just know it's gonna be Biden versus Trump. Like.

Well, yeah, I think after last night, that's become very clear.

So now the election nights, like the super bowl, for me, I get trashed.

Trash. On election night.

Like at Binghamton, when we had our apartment the night of the election, we all just got. We just sat there and drank and watched like Fox News all night.

Well, it's not like a yearly thing, so I feel like there's only been like one.

Really.

Election night experience.

Yeah. The one time I did it.

But that'll be like the new thing.

This is the mind of an alcoholic. He goes back four years ago, he's like, well, it has to be a new tradition.

Tradition.

And we got woke up to some robbery.

What about in 2016?

I didn't give a. About politics. I was like working a froyo shift and I was like, oh, Trump's beating Hillary. That's cool. That's interesting. I stayed up and watched it all night though. It's like 2:00am and I. Dude, I'll never get how like in high school we would stay up till 1am, get up at 5:30, just go to school, go to sports, practice, work. Just like no coffee. And I'm just different, bro. No Zin.

They feel different.

Yeah. You're washed up now.

Definitely washed up.

Become weak.

But oh, God, Elon versus Cuban DEI debate.

I mean, that kind of ties right into the politics, Right.

Who do you side with? Cuban or Elon?

Elon said that DEI is like a waste. It's just like going too far, right?

Yeah.

Basically reverse race, reverse racism.

Yeah, I think that, I mean, you can't virtue signal to the point where it harms a economy and businesses. Like, that doesn't make any sense.

Well, he's saying, oh, it's it's racist.

Elon's saying it's racist against, like, white people.

Yeah. Or, you know, he's just saying in general, like, if you just look at the definition of racism, just judging somebody, it's racist.

Basically making a hiring decision based on someone's race.

Yeah.

Yeah. That makes sense.

The entire point.

He believes that all hiring decisions should be made colorblind.

Yeah.

Just based on. He believes in, like, a pure meritocracy, which we've moved away from. I think DI was great when it was founded, and now it's gotten to a point where everything's leveled out enough and it just shows. It's. It was a measure to make things equal. And now if you look at all the hiring statistics, it's gone past equal to a point where now it's just having the reverse effect on other groups of people. So I'd say I saw with Elon. Mark Cuban's interesting, though, because he's a super smart guy and I like a lot of his takes, but I also feel like he's still like Shark Tank Hollywood, trying to, like, posture to that crowd at the same time.

Yeah, I don't really. I don't really get Cuban. I feel like he's.

Same with the NBA, bro.

I think he's sold out of the Mavericks. Why would you do that?

The NBA. The NBA has gone super woke.

Yeah.

I think Patrick Bethea was talking about in his podcast, like, the viewership compared to the NFL this year. It's like, usually up there, it's not even close really. Like, NBA viewership is tanked.

I think the NBA product isn't as good anymore.

Yeah.

Remember watching like, a Lakers Kobe versus, like, Paul Pierce Celtics game? It just, like, felt meaningful.

Even in the regular season.

Yeah, it used to feel like meaningful. Now you watch a game and it's just like a dunk contest. Like, there's no defense. And.

You know, the best in our generation, I feel like, was when the Miami Heat teams would play like the Mallow. Next teams always be super intense.

I'll never forget it. We would all sit around our TV in high school and watch, like, LeBron play the. The Dirk Nowitzki Mavs and see how that went.

You know, LeBron and the Lakers are struggling this year. Not looking good for the boys.

Jimmy Butler came back last night.

Yeah.

Dropped 31.

The Heat are good. They've been hot. They've been hot. O D. Wade's getting a statue outside the stadium.

Really?

Spolster is the highest paid coach in the league.

Bolster is a legend, bro. Did he see? He waited until his divorce settlement. Until they. Or the.

He waited.

That was definitely Pat Riley being like, yo, I got you, bro. Like, you got to give away half.

Here's 4x more so far.

They waited until his divorce settled to give him the biggest extension for a coach ever. Like, genius.

The wise price.

Well deserved. I mean, the guy's a legend.

He's the best coach in the league.

Talk about. That's why I love just sports in general. Everyone's like, sports ball stupid. Spolster was what, like a video production guy for the Heat. Like, the bottom of the barrel, worked his way all the way up to a head coach. Love that. I feel like sports have, like, the greatest ascension stories of any industry. Like, how many McDonald's fry cooks go on to be, like, a C suite guy?

Probably not a lot.

Not many if you just.

Even if they did.

Mike McDaniel, he was the same guy grinding his balls off, and now he's coach the Dolphins.

Sports a good example of, like, a meritocracy in a way.

Yeah.

If you just judged on results and your ability.

Which is why the Mark Cuban situation is so funny.

Yeah.

Because everyone's response was like, well, you're owner of the Mavs, so why don't you go and implement DEI on your own basketball team?

Yeah. You're not gonna find a the next Jeremy Lynn just because he looks like. I'm like, no, you're gonna stick with Luca.

Some of the skits were so funny, bro. Twitter's been hilarious recently. I think the Twitter algorithm is, like, it's changed so much.

Well, do you guys sit on the for you or the following side?

The for you. That's probably why if I, like one tweet, I'll get, like, 10 tweets that are related to that topic, like, instantly.

I do the the following because I'll Open Twitter at 9am and see someone get decapitated, and then I'm anxious all day, and I can't work. And that's, like, both different. I'm a creative bro. I need to think. I need to have a clear head. I can't.

Exactly. That's the easiest way to clear bros.

It's enter. But for me, like, Twitter's become more of entertainment than it used to be. Like, work and business.

Yeah.

Which is a problem. So I kind of switch back to the following page, open the for you page, and it's just, like, entertainment and, like, memes and.

Yeah.

Like, during the NFL playoffs, like, everyone's just Making fun of Doc Prescott and Jalen hurts. And it's like, this is entertaining.

But when I made the Internet hall of Fame, so many people saw that.

It was talk about this. So, Christian, for everyone in our audience, you probably have been seeing him all over the place, whether it be on Tik Tok or Barstool's page, on Twitter.

Podcast.

Tom Sakura's podcast. So random, bro. So talk about your rise, the fame.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's hilarious because I just literally pull out my phone and record a one minute video and post it, and then that's.

Now, be careful what you're saying here, bro, because they're gonna clip this up and probably analyze it on podcast, too.

No, I wish. I think it's more of the topics I speak on than me, which is fine, but I don't know, I just think of topics that are relatable to a mass audience, and then I put a little twist on it and post it out. So it's really it. Like, I mean, I was in Miami, got lunch with a couple guys like Mason and Ben. Got a cappuccino, got mandatory. I had a tip. Like, I didn't have a choice. I had to tip $2 on my order. I was like, that's stupid. Sat down outside the cafe, made a video about it, posted it, got an Uber to the airport video goes viral. I've done that same topic, like, five times. It goes viral every time.

And if people have listened to our podcast, where'd we get that from?

What?

Repurposing something that's already gone viral?

Who's that?

Ryan? Megan.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Remember, Lear told us, like, bro, just post the same thing over and over and over again.

I'm gonna go home and do another pilates video. I need some more ad revenue, bro.

So, like, if you guys have been watching the podcast and listening and implementing the same way Christian, who's on the podcast, has been doing, maybe you'd be viral on Tick Tock.

It's not just eyeballs. It's money. Like, how much. How much money did you make from the creator fund this month?

Yeah, I made, like, 2, 3 grand, which is all right, but that's a.

Lot more than the $2 that you tip the cappuccino place.

That's facts. The money's in the Tick Tock shop, bro. That's the real key. If you can sell a product on Tick Tock. Like, some dude on Twitter made, like, five figures in sales from a single video. So that's my Next goal. Maybe I should link a Pilates product in my video, see what happens.

Link.

This is a great idea. I'm gonna go do that later.

Yeah, I was gonna say promote our own.

Sell some weeds.

I've tried the business stuff. It doesn't obviously go as viral. I'm trying, bro.

It's just not mass marketing stuff. Yeah, it makes sense, though.

Let's wait till we launch a cigar.

Yeah.

Wait till we have a Pilates sass for our millionaires.

What would that even be? Like, the actual program?

Like an AI AI Pilates class you could do at home? Crazy.

That would be wild, bro. But yeah, I guess the. The question that probably everyone is asking, and we talk about this internally all the time, but, like, are these your actual thoughts or are you just saying these things to go viral?

I'll have a thought. Not necessarily what I tr. Like, it's not a massively con. I don't have a massive conviction in it. Like, women shouldn't work. Oh, my God. It's just like, oh, that's a cool thought. Let me make a video because I saw someone in Tampa, like, going into work and she was wearing, like, some Rely Quest T shirt. I'm like, she should be not working for, like, Quest. So I made the video and that was it.

Was she bad?

Yeah. But you have to put conviction behind it or else no one's going to believe you. Like, that's the biggest thing for any content. If you don't have conviction of what you're saying, it's very easy to tell. Vivek, great speaker. You can tell he believes in what.

He'S saying and you have to speak in absolutes.

Yeah.

For TikTok, I can't be like, oh.

I think you have to be like, no, this is the fact. And that's it. And everyone's like, oh, why are my videos going viral? I'm like, the first three seconds of your. Your clip are just like, people are out of there right away. Yeah.

So how do you hook them? What's your hook?

What I found is like, you do a hook.

Like, other than being super handsome.

Yeah. You do a hook that's like, you know, social. Social awareness is the biggest sign of intelligence. And then right away go into, like, stories. If your music's being played too loud, if you're in the way of somebody at the grocery store, if you're being annoying, fix those things. Now people like a bold statement. Oh, I can relate to that. Someone at the grocery store today was pissing me off right then you Give an example about it. Like, you know, it's very easy to tell who's highly intelligent based on how socially aware you are. And you just kind of lead them, trail them off the whole way. If you do edited clips, it's a lot easier to catch people, hook people in because of like the dopamine. Like there's clips on TikTok of like someone doing a racing game while Tate's talking, and people just keep watching because you're watching the fucking game.

You're. Yeah, you're watching the game and then listening to what Tate's saying. It's great.

Have you ever tried that with your own video or not?

No. So even for this podcast, that's why I'm saying, like, I think we should just get right into a topic, like just off the jump, you know what I mean? Because if people click on the thumbnail, then maybe they're here to watch us. But if we don't like hop into an interesting topic right away, they're out. So it's like, it's a great point. You just have to go right into it.

So good point.

So statement, story, and then you just follow it up with like a conclusion statement again.

Yeah, and then I just find a way to make it minute long so I get paid.

Yeah.

Cuz I've been at like 40 seconds. Like. Well, I don't really know what else to say, but let's figure something out. Not just people say I'm yapping, but that's how you get paid. So.

Dude's a professional yapper.

Professional yapper. That was so funny. Those comments. Something else, but. All right, pivot topics. Another topic that we talked about with Gary Cardone, which was an episode that did pretty well. That was a fun one too, but he was obviously like a bitcoin maxi. And since then bitcoin ETF got approved, I think. Right. I was so confused by that because yeah, it's approved on Twitter. It's like approved. And then they're like, wait, no, it got hacked. So like, what's the deal?

I don't know.

It's approved, it's approved. We're good.

I don't think they got hacked.

Is it trading right now or.

No, I believe. Let me see. Let's see. Real Time Bitcoin ETFs, ProShares Bitcoin Strategy ETF are becoming more common. Let's see approval. I don't. The whole ETF thing is interesting to me because with a gold ETF like you, instead of physically buying a block of gold you buy the etf, but bitcoin's already digital, so why wouldn't you just go and buy regular Bitcoin instead of the etf? Is that just like the whole manage thing that Gary talks about? Like, I don't understand.

I think it's just another means. Means of purchasing it. Like it just, it makes it more accessible to more people. Like traditional investors are not going to go set up a Metamask or Coinbase account to buy bitcoin. They just don't.

But like signing up for Coinbase is just as easy as. Probably easier than opening up an IRA or whatever.

But imagine you have an investment portfolio on a brokerage account. Like you're going to want to stay loyal to that one brokerage.

That's true.

Or some traditional way of investing is the way I would probably look at it.

Bitcoin and ether strategy, etf. Oh no, this one's been out. I don't know. I'm just gonna keep buying regular coins though, so I don't really care.

Like you're not getting nervous about like the fact that you just have it in a hard drive.

You have your recovery.

Yeah. If you lose it, it's not a. It's not like a big deal.

I wrote so like I have it written down that I have it at my parents houses.

So like you could order a new drive. The thing, the thing is the drive has to go with the seed phrase, so you have to have this.

I don't even. I have a app on my laptop, so I don't even have the physical hard drive.

You don't have the ledger.

You're saying I have my bitcoin on a different wallet.

What's the seed phrase? Let's read it out. You bicycle pumpkin.

No, it's something. Yeah.

It's like talking about investments though. Okay. Bitcoins, I think. Yeah, great investment, whatever. But what are some other investments that bro.

Race horses, bro. Every other investment avenue. I don't care what else you want to do. I'm investing in race horses. I'm very excited about that. It's going to be the most fun I've ever had this summer.

What's the guy's name or the girl? The Philly saleb.

Oh, we're supposed to get another one today. Let's see if it went through.

Just collecting racehorses.

Yes.

So talk to the people about the strategy. What's the investment strategy? And this is not financial advice, by the way.

Yeah. So basically you. A racehorse goes up for sale. I'm part of like A. A barn, basically of people that invest in horses. So basically the group buys the horse, they give out equity for 5%. I invest $1,000 for 5%. Every time the horse races, I get 5% of the owner's pot. So if the horse comes in first, it gets 55 of the purse. The owners take home 87, the trainer gets 13, and then I get 5% of the 87% of the winnings. And the horse races like eight times a year. So we can. Every time the horse races, I have an ability to profit and then if it does good, they relist it and hopefully sell it for profit. And I get paid out on that.

So it's like, what's the hope that you just get enough horses to the point that one goes all the way and wins a massive race like the.

Preakness of the Derby or most pretty.

Good consistent for earnings.

Right now, the horses that they've been buying are too old to even race in a Kentucky Derby. They're like five year olds. You have to be like two or three to do Kentucky Derby. So the, the goal right now is just like literally cash flow, bro. Think about it like, it's like dividends. Every race is a dividend. Obviously it's a huge gamble, but again, the act, it's like an nft. You get literally access to the owner's area of the track. You get a free parking pass, bro.

That's what I was. I think from my perspective, like the, the attractiveness of it, especially for you, is you go to the races every summer.

Yeah.

So you're essentially just buying a VIP ticket to go to the races. And if there are dividends and other, you know, returns on investment, great.

The networking out of it too. Like, I'm sure I'll go up there this summer and they'll have like a box and I'll go up there and hang out and meet people and just network that way.

But yeah, do you get any, like VIP access as an owner of it or. No?

I don't know. I think there's. When the horse races, I get to go like out into the paddock and walk out with it to the track, which is sick. So I'll be like, that'd be a.

Great place to make a tick tock. Just walking out with your horse.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The best investment. Yeah, no, that's, that's, that'll be fun. But I don't know this. It's an interesting spot because the people that do it are brand new to it, but their uncle or their dad was very big into it. So, like, they're just building it up and I'm getting in early and their goal is to work up to, like, bigger horses. So I'll probably just keep investing in horses and roll the profits over and who knows, one day there could be a. A bigger horse.

But let's talk about how your other gambling is going. How was this past weekend in NFL betting trash, bro. What was your record on the five, six games?

Oh, and five.

Oh, and five.

I guess every single game lost every single one.

It's tough.

I got every game wrong badly.

And then right when he was like, dude, I went over five. Daniel pops and he's like, first sports bet one ever.

Yeah. Tampa Bay Buccaneers beating the. The Eagles.

So Daniel doesn't know what he's doing. He's like, look what I did. I'm like off.

But man, let's talk about traveling. I'm not traveling this week. You guys are flying all over the place. You're going to Colorado or.

I'm going to Utah.

Utah. Utah. What are you going out there for?

So Matt Moore, who we had on the podcast a while back when we were doing the. What Was that? The 4x4x48 running challenge. The David Goggins challenge. So Matt Moore has a community called Elevate and I was supposed to go to Colorado last year for an event.

Yeah.

With him. And it was the day that the hurricane hit Tampa. And so the airport is closed. Couldn't go to that event. But he's got another event this week in Utah, which is like a snowboarding trip. So my brother is in the community too. Jack, he's going to be going. And then Cam, who does all the client Ascension events, he's going to be going. So it's going to be a good group. I've never been to you or I've been to Utah, but not for snowboarding trips. So hopefully I don't.

Is it like structured or you guys are just like hanging out?

It's just like Bible studies, exploring the city and snowboarding.

What city?

Salt Lake City.

Oh, that's fire. Hell yeah, brother. That's cool.

When's the last time you went snowboarding?

Last. Last winter.

Okay.

Yeah, I go usually once a year, but then I have another snowboarding trip next month in Colorado, so.

For Taylor.

For Taylor Welch. Yeah.

It's fire, bro.

So you're going to Taylor, huh?

So gonna be hitting the slopes a lot.

I know, I know. Might be full time snowboarder after this. This winter season.

Yeah. I've been skiing and four or five years. I miss it. So fun, bro.

It is so fun, especially if you go with a good group of people. It's just the best.

Yeah. I have no desire to do that ever.

Huh.

I tried skiing when I was little, and I was like, nope, too cold. I'm out, bro.

I mean, it's so cold here in Tampa right now. Like, no, it ain't. What's the difference?

What's the difference? It was warm out today.

It was like, 70, 60, about 50 degrees. Is the difference you want, like, actual answer, bro?

It's so cold here. It's not good.

The aesthetic does look sick, though.

Yeah.

Park City with the lights and the snow and stuff. Looks fire.

Yeah. It's going to be far. So I'm hype.

I remember last time I went skiing, I had been in, like, five years. But I got to a point before that, when I was a kid, when I was pretty decent, like, I was going on blues and, like, I've done, like, one or two black. So I hopped on and I was like, I'm going to be good. I remember how to ski a ski to black. I was, like, 12. Literally, just I hopped off the thing and, like, halfway down, I was like, I don't know how to stop. I don't. I don't know how to stop.

And you're going pretty fast at that point.

So fast. So fast. So I was like, what? What was, like, the thing they taught to stop?

Pizza.

Pizza. So I pizza, and I hit my face so hard that I flipped over and landed on my back.

That's why I don't want to go skiing.

This is bad.

I've heard so many people, like, break.

Arms, and I'm like, bro, but, like, chill. Like, I'm not going on any of those. I'm just going on, like, the nice rides and just going down more. Enjoying, like, the views and the aesthetics, bro.

Yeah.

I'll go down the hill a couple of times, but nothing crazy.

It's always fun to do, like, a couple jumps, though, at the end of the day when you're, like, really get.

A hang of it. Maybe if I'm, like, drinking and I got some zins in, like, oh, you.

Definitely don't want to drink while you're snowboarding.

Oh, you have to one day. Makes it, like, fun.

Then I'll find. I'll find a snowmobile trip that day and do that instead. Snowmobiling is so fun.

I mean, you're going to be in Nashville. They're getting Massive winter storms right now, so you might actually be able to go skiing and snowboarding.

Really shot, it's up.

How's dry January going for everybody?

I never started dry January.

Smart man.

Oh, I don't lie to myself. I don't sit here and tell myself I'm gonna do something, then don't do it.

I did Damp January. I've only drank once.

Yeah, I've only drank twice in halfway through the month. That's better than KPI for me.

That's what's important. That's going so great.

And then I got a text from somebody who might work with us and he was like, yo, Edition.

I'm like, yeah, next week's gonna be rough for me. It'll be New York City, Gatsby, then Gasparilla.

Bro, I can't believe it's been a year since the last one. I feel like it just happened.

It's also always terrible weather. Hopefully we get a good one. Like our first tour, just freezing each day.

Yeah.

Last year was freezing. Was it?

Yeah, it was cold.

The first one was way.

First one was really cold. First one, like dropped below 40 for a second there, like during the morning. So hopefully that doesn't happen again.

Yeah, I can't wait for Gasparillo.

Gaspar, always a good one to look forward to.

Who do we talk to about Gasparillo last year on the podcast?

Chandler.

Chandler, yeah. Yeah, he's giving us the whole history lesson.

That was great.

Let's see.

We got some good clips from that one.

Basically just Mardi Gras.

It's just an all day party. Yeah, pretty much.

Oh, Hormozi. Investing in school.

That's going to be a game changer.

I know. I wonder how much he paid. He said it was his biggest investment in anything ever.

I wonder how that happens though, because, like, his focus is on, like his portfolio and building, like, brick and mortar stuff and then he's just like, school.

I mean, technically though, that's not part of his portfolio.

But do you think that. Do you think that's like him reaching out to Sam or Sam's like, hey, mate, like, it was def.

I think it was mutual because they've both spoken very highly of each other. And then with Hormozy's like, brand, 100 million dollar offers, 100 million dollar leads. Like, he's creating people that are just gonna create school groups essentially. And because he doesn't have his own version of school, he might as well get a piece of what already exists. He probably saw that all the guys that are reading $100 million offers are going to start their own offers in their programs on Kajabi, on Circle, whatever the other platforms are. And said let's just push everyone to one and get a piece of it.

It's like our list kit, kind of.

Yeah, it's like we're, we're, yeah, we're starting a Legion agency. We're doing client attention, showing everyone how to do cold email, pushing them to Apollo. Why not just start our own version or like he did. Let's just. Horosi is always about acquiring other businesses. Like that's what he does better than anyone else.

Yeah, it's just such a good product too. Like all the other ones are.

I mean I really like Circle, but I think school is great for like the, the lower ticket, middle tier products where Circle is great for like masterminds, really high end experience. Taylor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Taylor Welch has his set up in Circle. It's like the only coaching program I've ever been a part of where I can't download a video or share a login with anyone really. Which is like, for them, genius. But like I feel like you could do that with any other platform. Share login, download a video, send it to one of your team members so they have an unlock, which is important when you're paying, you know, a lot of money.

10, 20, 30, 40 grand.

40, 45 grand for a mastermind. Like you have to have the security unlock also. Cole Gordon, did you see their, their announcement for next event? They said, I'll talk to them about this because I think we had a different deal. But they said it's only the main person that signed up plus one other person.

Isn't that what they said last time?

No. This is like a new rule that they're in state.

I wonder if we made that rule.

We definitely, we definitely made that rule happen. But we also, when I talked to Igor, I'm just shilling names now, putting everyone on the line. They're not listening to this anyways. But yeah, when I talk to their, their rep, that was part of our deal. So I don't know if I'll be able to go. That one though anyways, is at the end of February. Then I'll be gone all February.

Yeah.

What else you have going on in February?

I have Taylor's event in Colorado and then we have Dylan's wedding in Miami.

Are you going?

Yeah. You have to go, bro.

Yeah. Last time you were like, I don't know. It's like, why?

No, I was just Messing with you at dinner, bro.

It's gonna be so fun, bro.

Figuring out the. The details. I'm taking Dan.

Really?

I guess I'm going.

Yeah. We need a ride, bro.

Yeah, that's great.

Here. Yeah, that'll be not fun. It's like on a yacht.

Yeah.

For the entire day or something.

Five hours pre fire.

That's crazy. In Miami. Yeah. We have to go. Maybe we could schedule some podcasts in Miami. Yeah.

When?

Huh?

When?

On the boat.

The wedding's on us with Jonathan Taylor. Saturday or Friday?

Saturday.

It's on a Saturday? No, I'm pretty sure it's. It's. Oh, yeah, it is Saturday. Yeah.

Because I would have been very sad if it was set Friday night.

Country got Drake. Dude, I'd be so down for that. Sunday, we'd rip some podcasts.

Deathly hungover on my death outside of club Space.

Just there with the. The aliens in Miami. Actually, just when.

When we got. When we're all booze and just be like, yo, jt, tomorrow, bro. Podcast.

Yeah. Yeah.

Honestly, get them to agree to it. I haven't signed something.

Fine prints like, you give us your next year's salary if you don't show up.

If you don't show up. Yeah. That would be legendary. Yeah. Lots of trips.

Talk about some. Some list kit. We got direct dials coming.

A lot of cool stuff coming.

Yeah. I think the thing we realize about list kit is we've done a really good job getting the word out there. We have a consistent flow of new users signing up. And it's just like the same thing with anything that you're trying to grow. Like, you can Chad RAM users in, but at some point you have to then, like Hormozi says, like, ascend those users or increase the value of each of those users. Like, you can't just get more users and grow only that one way. You have to get more users, which is going to grow it and then expand the value of those users.

At the same time, you have to constantly be unlocking new features. Yeah.

And so that's really what the roadmap looks like for ListKit now is we have the B2B emails, which is like the core product, the triple verified emails. And behind the scenes, we've been working on mobile numbers, which we're now beta testing and rolling out in the next couple of weeks. And then on top of that, we're working on, like, local business data, we're working on startup funding data, we're working on B2C data. And so just building out more products so that the user base is not only coming to us for emails but all these other things which is just gonna 2, 3, 4x the customer lifetime value.

Yeah. One thing I thought was pretty cool is looking at instantly his website and they've obviously done a fantastic job.

Shout out to instantly. These guys are absolute killers. Like such an inspiration for anyone building a SaaS business. If you're not familiar with what is it instantly I, yeah, I think is their, their website. These guys, we watch them literally we're all from the same space on Twitter. We literally watched them go from starting or having this cold email agency which they did an amazing job with at the time, go into building this sending software for cold emailers from scratch, no funding, fully bootstrapped and have scaled it to multimillion dollar ARR company.

Yeah. In like two years it's going to be a nine, ten figure exit. Yeah, yeah.

Easily like right today it could get that valuation and so like as sitting here as SaaS founders ourselves, like huge, huge, huge inspiration and we're really looking at what those guys have done and how they've been so successful in such.

A short period of time. Like it's insane. We were talking about this while I was going back to my call logs. Like I had a list kit demo with them years ago which is absolutely.

The self or the A product I service.

It's a completely different service now but it just shows you how quickly things can happen. But what I was going to say about them and just talking about like updating people like we're doing right now and what's on the horizon and constantly having people like have new features to look forward to. They just have their roadmap straight on their website.

Yep.

So if you just go to instantly you can just click on road map. You can see all the shit that their team is working on full time, which I thought was super interesting.

Sounds like a NFT project that used to be the like. Oh, the roadmap, bro. Like this is coming.

No, no, what was it called? What were the groups called that everyone thought was going to be like the, the thing. Oh, you know I'm talking about.

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.

Dallas.

Yeah.

Daos. Whatever happened to Dallas? Like whatever those are like the future. Remember everyone's like Dallas think. Join my DAO. I haven't heard about a Dow since like 2 years ago.

I haven't heard about any web3 application that people actually use yet.

Yeah, I don't.

What's. What do you think is like the first Web3 application where like you ha. It has to be built on the Ethereum network, has to be all transacted.

It's going to be all enterprise. It's going to be like AWS services, cloud storage.

Yeah.

I think because my cousin works at the, the Web3 division at Amazon, like that's probably going to be the number one.

The biggest thing is like just enterprise safe data that can't. Because it's decentralized, it can't be like hacked into and taken down.

Yeah.

Like AWS and it's way cheaper. AWS goes down because it's one warehouse or I'm sure they have a bunch of warehouses obviously. But it's like a main net that can be shut down with a Web three, you know, blockchain. It's all decentralized and you can't just shut the whole thing down. So.

So let me reframe that. What do you think is the first thing that's like mass adopted at a consumer level?

Games.

Games.

Yeah, I think tickets definitely games for now.

Games like, like video games.

You log into a fortnight and you can come in first in a tournament and earn like fort coin. That's worth like actual money and like you unlock.

That's what, what's his name? Alex Becker. Super bullish on, right.

Well yeah. Think about it. Because all these, all these people, I mean I used to. I love video games, I just don't play them anymore. But you grind 10 hours in grand Theft Auto and you beat this mission and you get a rare one of one vehicle that you can sell on a marketplace and if you own that vehicle, you're like, everyone thinks it's dumb. Like oh, you own this nft. That's stupid. But if everyone's playing GTA and you have the nicest car, that's like a status symbol and some idiot will pay a ton of money for that. That's where I think the, the most immediate adoption is in Web3 for sure.

Remember when people were buying digital mansions as a status symbol?

Yeah. But I think in a video game, like if you own the best house.

In GTA or like the best gun in Fortnite.

Yeah.

That's like an actual.

It would take a game like needing to become that popular because every single.

Person would drive by the house every day and it's literally your house.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? Or like imagine in a GTA you could literally like rent out of. I mean as a joke, like everyone used to go to the strip club in gta because it was funny. Like imagine you own the strip club in GTA and people have to like pay you to walk in and you physically get money. That'd be insane.

There's something so dystopian about all that.

Yeah.

People already play video games.

Yeah, I know, but people like getting status from having a big mansion.

And it's not even status though. It's not status. It's just utility.

It's kind of been happening. Remember Anthony Eclipse was saying like how he ran it up with like Roblox and stuff like that? Yeah. A lot of people ran it up with Minecraft and Roblox. Like getting paid actual money for like creating things in that like spear.

It's almost like a sponsorship. Imagine if like Liz kids logo was on the Knicks jersey.

Yeah.

But instead it's like Daniel Crowley and everyone. There's millions of people playing this game every day and your name's on the nicest house. Like that's. It's just like a digital reflex. I don't know. It's cool. That's why I believe in all that so much, dude. Like everybody already plays games and all this stuff, so it's going to be a thing. That's a good point.

Yeah. I don't know any other applications that make a lot of sense. I think tickets are like actual contracts as well.

Yeah, that Gary does a good job. I mean the only thing I've seen is VCon.

But even then like the fact that you had to get the NFT to get the ticket massively devalued the ticket itself.

Yeah, yeah. Because it just made it harder to access.

Yeah. Like those tick for a conference. Like he put on you easily could have charged a grand.

We talked about it because like the Andrew Schultz ticket alone was worth more than what people were paying for the recon.

Poor Gary, he's like too far ahead of his time.

Yeah. Literally.

Yeah, but I mean it'll pay off for him. It's always long time horizon. It'll pay off. I don't know how.

Same thesis though. Like a Super bowl ticket for the first Super bowl is probably like 50 bucks.

Yeah, but I mean he's so like balls deep in what makes money now too that like he doesn't really care. He's fine.

He can have the long time horizon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is cool.

Like, yeah, he takes a hit on probably paying speakers to come to his event. Or maybe not because he has the connections. But on the other side he's making, I mean eight figures a year from.

Office v friends one mint. He probably made like eight figures.

Yeah.

Like selling the original v1.

Yeah. A lot of these NFT creators made a lot of money early on and all of them for the most part especially like the ones that had real business experience. Like Gary instantly converted that Ethan to USD.

Yeah. So then that can't feel rewarding for most of them. Like Gary's fought tooth and nail to provide value to the people that actually bought his nft. But almost everybody else just fucked everybody over.

Yeah. And still even guys in Gary's community are down bad.

Look at, look at, I mean look at Logan Paul. He just had to refund a bunch of people.

Yeah.

Actually that's still going. I'm pretty sure what's his name was the coffee Zilla. He did another video on that like last week.

I think he. I think Logan ended up refunding all the people that like originally bought the NFT or whatever it is to get in the game. But all of the coin inside the game like he was talking about.

Yeah.

That people lost money on. He hasn't refunded that. Yeah, it's like out of like the $18 million in damages or something, he's refunded like 2.

You want to know the biggest utility in blockchain that will never happen? Voting.

Voting. That would be pretty cool because like.

You can't fake that.

There's verify anyone.

It's verified record. Like you could look up transaction AZ 12845 and see that Andre voted for Biden and you'll have proof of that.

You know they would say it's way too high barrier to entry. But they don't even expect people to be able to read and they can.

Start or show their id.

Yeah.

No, but it's not even user. It's not user facing. It's like you show your, you show your id, you vote.

And that saying, it's already a huge thing.

It's not allowed, bro. You can't show your id. It's, it's.

Yeah, it's.

It's like a huge issue.

Yeah. You don't need an ID to vote.

Why do you need an ID to vote?

Yeah, bro, not everybody has IDs. What's wrong with you? You're so insensitive.

So that's the problem, bro. 100% like so many. It's sad how behind that.

I was just saying like that's why.

Part of the world that's intentionally behind.

Well of course, of course.

What else?

It's so funny though.

Oh Tai Lopez backstory I think that'd be cool, bro.

Your tweet today was fire. I was reading that. I was like, I just thought about that guy. Really just knows how to write copy.

I. I was just thinking about it because I saw Ty posted our clip, and I was like, I can't believe that actually happened.

And we got a negative comment.

What? Oh, yeah. Because they said that was the whole business. That's what inspired it. I was like, oh, yeah. Some guy flamed our production. I'm like, buddy, the fact that this is even an episode is crazy.

It was hilarious. I mean, we all had, like, completely different types of mics. I had. I think I was holding the shotgun mic that you put on the top of the camera with, like, the spirally cord. It looks so good.

Shout out to me for being a nerd and bringing my sales mic on vacation. I literally always bring it with me.

Christian had the one that had, like, the huge.

I was like, 20 pounds. I was like, so, Ty, what do you.

He's like, holding a baby. He's like, yeah, yeah.

Ty had the best mic. That's all.

That's all I can. Yeah.

And the audio came out great.

I thought he's been on, like, a podcast spree. We were like, the second ones, besides Graham Stephan.

Yeah. I remember in Graham Stephan's episode before we interviewed Ty was, like, six months before that. And so, like, we were the start of, like, the podcast sprint that he went on.

Yeah.

Which is pretty cool. Same with Gary Cardone. He's on, like, every podcast now. Yeah, I guess. Like, if you. If you want to go on a podcast for this. The first stop.

Yeah. Or the launch pad.

Yeah, the launch pad.

Theovon, if you want to appear on some. Hit us up, bro. How about. Was PBD at Trump? Was he at Mar a Lago? Was that what that was?

Yeah.

Who PBD posted a video in front of some mansion.

It was. It was at Mar a Lago.

That was it.

Oh, really? When was that?

Like, two days ago. He posted, like, was this 18 million or 1.5 billion? Like, just looking.

Oh, yeah, about the. Because the SEC filings or whatever on the valuation.

What? They valued it at 1.5 billion.

No, 18 million.

I mean, I'll buy it for 18 million if I could.

What does that mean, though? Like, why would they.

Well, they're trying to lower, like, make him look bad. Right. Like, the whole idea of it is, like, Trump's bankrupt. He's not as well off financially as people think. And then you go in the SEC filings And it's like, well, Mar Lago is valued at $18 million.

I probably saved him, which is a joke. Taxes.

He's.

He's the one laughing jokes on them.

It's about. Yeah, it's about saying like, hey, he's not really the businessman you think he is. His net worth isn't actually that high. Because that piece of land, which I don't know if you've ever been there.

I mean, I've drove by it.

Yeah. You just look at it. It's like a little town in Florida. Like, there's no, there's no way it could possibly. $18 million, Tim.

Like, if it was on the market for $18 million, like, people would fight tooth and nail to buy it.

Why is he. There was a question. Is he interviewing him?

Pbd. I'm sure they've had to have something in the works for a long time.

Yeah. Yeah, for a long time.

He's got. Yeah, he's got to be the next one to interview Trump.

What's the best podcast you've listened to recently?

Best podcast I've listened to recently.

Just like an episode.

Doesn't have to be, bro. I don't know if Tony Robbins is. Is doing something new, but he's been on like every podcast recently. But him on Theo Vaughn was hilarious. He was on the Avon. It's just the most random collab because, like, Theo super, you know, funny, but it was also like kind of serious.

Get Tony to like, laugh.

Tony was like coaching him on like his like, like his self image and like Theo's like, sometimes I don't take myself so serious and like the podcast is like. But I don't like, you know, feel my success was the, like actually like.

Playing along with it or was just.

It was both. Like him and Tony were like. It was back and forth, like jokes, but then serious jokes, but then serious. That's why I loved it because it was like a great middle ground.

Yeah.

Damn.

How about you Christian that?

And I'll say. I mean, I don't think I've said this on the podcast yet. This was a little while back, but Andrew Tate on the Georgenko podcast, it was two parts. Best podcast I've ever listened to. Like, for sure.

I literally just listened that two days ago.

So good. So good.

I finished the first part. It was just a good. It was a good mix of debate and just like story, but also just more so like talking about the state of society.

Yeah.

I don't know. Just. It was a super well flowing conversation. I Thought, like, the Islam versus Christianity debates were. Were really interesting. And also just got to a point where, like, Andrew Tate will go on a show and he's kind of doing, like, the playing the character dance. Yeah, yeah. And he just wasn't like that.

Not at all. That's why I loved it, because you.

Could tell that he respected George. After, like, 15, 20 minutes of talking to him, he was like, oh, shit. Like, most people. Don't make me think. Like, you're actually making me think right now.

And George did another episode last week or this week, I think, talking about, like, behind the scenes, how that episode happened in the first place and, like, his thoughts on it. And that was a really good one, too, if you watch the Andrew Tate one. Patrick bet David was the one that set it up, which is pretty cool, because George interviewed PBD either a month or so before that, and then he was like, he's, for whatever reason, just been visualizing the fact that he wants to interview Andrew Tate because he thinks, like, if he can interview Andrew Tate, like, this will be his big break, and he can change, like, the perception around Andrew Tate and also Georgeenko, because after he left, Impulsive, it was kind of up in the air.

Yeah. That was the first ever episode that I listened to.

Oh, his podcast is my favorite.

I only listened to it because you said it was the best episode you've ever listened ever. Yeah.

Yeah. For real. And I listen to a lot of podcasts.

Yeah. Because, like, I wouldn't ever listen to that podcast normally. And, like, if I see Andrew Tate on a podcast, I typically won't check it out just because I feel like it's usually more.

It's all the same.

Yeah.

This is. It was just so different.

A lot different.

So different, dude.

The best episode that I've listened to of a podcast recently was Theo Vaughn and Sean Strickland. Did you listen that one?

No.

So good.

Sean Strickland. It's so random, dude, because he's just.

A completely unhinged human being.

I know.

Like, you'll constantly just go and talk about, like, how he, like, struggles on, like, a daily basis not to just go out and kill somebody, bro.

There was a funny tweet. This is, like, funny, but not funny. But they're like, Sean Strickland in his next press conference with the. The guy he's fighting. And it was a scene from the Joker where he's like, on the. The. The new show, and he just shoots the guy.

It's crazy.

He.

So they got in a fight at ufc I saw that, and Sean was like, I just thank God that nobody had, like, a camera angle of it because I. Nobody saw it, but I bit him. Like, he jumped over and just bit the guy. And it got to a point where, like, he broke down. Crying on the podcast is nuts.

I saw that clip. It was all over Twitter the next day.

I mean, he's been through a lot of shit, so.

Oh, it's insane. The him on Joe Rogan was also, like, super uncomfortable to watch. He's like, joe, have you ever thought.

About one with Rogan? Simply because Theo's also, like, messed up in the head enough to, like. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.

For real. Like, just, like, going along with the crazy.

Some crazy dark. And Theo will just make a joke about it.

Yeah.

Oh, that was good.

That's nasty. Like, just so dumb.

Then another podcast. I love the all in podcast. They do, like, their end of the year review and, like, they give out awards and it's all, like, focus on politics, business. And they also do, like, the beginning of the year predictions, which are, like, two of the best episodes a year. We should. You should watch that because we should start.

It's good.

Doing similar format. Super, super good, super entertaining podcast. Christian, you listen to podcasts or.

No, not like that. No, no, no.

What do you. Are you a music guy?

Yeah, just play music all day, basically, bro.

I just binge YouTube and podcasts. That's like, it.

I can't work and then, like, listen to something. I just won't know what's going on.

Oh. I don't even do it when I'm working. I can't either. I can't focus unless it's, like, busy work, like going through emails and Twitter and whatnot. But I'm watching me.

I can listen to, like, part of my take or a funny podcast while I'm working because I'm not paying.

Yeah, yeah. You're not, like, hanging on every word.

But yeah, if it's more like educational thing, I'll do it when I'm walking or doing something else.

Making cigars.

Kicking my ass right now.

Dude, this is such a good cigar. We should probably talk about cigars more since we are Steak Talk. This is the Anejo Vieja best Arturo Fuente cigar, if you're looking for one. Christian's a little shook up from it right now.

Yeah. Did you eat food before fighting? I did. I didn't eat a lot today, though, so. Need to go eat.

Yeah, I'm starving, bro.

Was everybody on their beginning of the year. Fitness journey's been doing.

Not really. Continuation.

Yeah. I mean, you've been really dialed in for three, four months now.

Not even, bro. I have. I mean, I haven't been working out a lot, but on the. The nutrition side. Yeah.

I mean, diet's way more important.

That's what I've realized. Like, I. I don't really work out much. I do one thing that I do every single day. That just sounds dumb and simple, but 10,000 steps a day. Like, I have not missed that for, like, four months.

Yeah.

Like, not a single day.

Damn.

And it's harder than you think.

Yeah.

Like, you don't just end the day and you're at 10k steps. Like, you actually have to, like, make an effort.

How things are going in Logan's program.

Solid. I'm just trying to add weight to all my lifts. Been going up every week. It's a lot of legs, too. I don't really do legs that much, so it's been good.

Oh, you're going through Logan's program?

Yeah.

Papa Fits. He's got a kid on Fits.

Yeah. Legend.

It's like, that's cool.

He just makes your workout program and you follow it and then.

Yeah.

And he has, like, mobility stuff because I have, like, a lot of back pain sometimes, so he's helping me with, like, mobility and stuff.

You just carry a Tampa on your back trying. Man defends the city.

That's great.

All his might.

Dude. I'm excited for this year. Just produce. I don't know what it is, but producing the podcast on our own, I feel like it just gives us, like, way more freedom to be creative with these episodes, to do more freedom frequently on our own schedule. I don't know. I'm just excited to see where the podcast goes. It's just gonna. I think it's gonna be a lot different this year.

Gotta take the George Ankle path.

The George Jenko pad path path.

Pbd.

Oh, yeah, pbd. And then Tate. I. I mean, I think we could have both those names on the podcast this year. I would be upset if we did not.

I think we will. No, I know we will. You got to speak it into existence.

We will.

It's going to happen.

Yeah.

Without a doubt. And then, I mean, basically, you get anybody at that point.

Yeah. Once you stack a couple big names, you can really get whoever you want.

Like, with anything you need.

I think we can get Vivek. Vivek would be like. You were saying. Vivek is everywhere, dude. Everywhere. He's on every.

I was like, what is our country? Because it's the day of the Iowa caucus and I get like an Instagram alert and it's like, Vivek Ramaswamy is going live with Jake Paul.

I'm like, yeah, yeah, I watched that. It was good. It was good. He's. He was smart. Like he was going after like the younger. The younger crowd. And I think that's long term what's going to help him get into office one day.

That's why I think he's not going to be. Because I think his brand will grow more on his own if he's on his own doing media appearances. And you'll have a better chance of becoming president eventually, as opposed to if he was doing the day to day shit that the Vice President does, which I have no idea what the Vice.

President does, but I don't think anyone does.

The AIs are. Kamala Harris.

I haven't heard about her in a minute. I haven't seen her in the news at all.

I don't think she does anything.

Yeah, I don't think so. But like, I didn't think Pence really did anything.

Yeah, exactly. That's why I don't ever show.

You ever see the show, Veep?

Yeah.

I feel like that's like actually the most accurate thing ever. It's like the most irrelevant position and they're just off to the side about everything. But they like think their job's so important.

Such a good show.

Such a crazy show. That is probably actually how it is.

That's probably all politics is.

Yeah. Honestly. But yeah, I think maybe we should wrap it at this point.

This was a good one.

Yeah, Christian seems like he's. He's drowning in smoke.

Yeah, we're hungry, but thanks for tuning in, guys. This is Members Lounge. We're gonna do a good mix of members Lounge and guest throughout the year. Maybe change up the locations like we were talking about doing an episode of Miami when we're there in a couple of weeks. So you might see that. And yeah, anything you guys want to see in specific, let us know in the comments. And yeah, just keep supporting. We appreciate it. Subscribe, comment. Like the video. And what's the subscriber goal this year? We got basically to 5k last year.

We're at like, what, 5300 now?

Yeah, it's been growing pretty decent, I think. Definitely 10k. We got to hit 10k this year.

Well, that's the thing. If the goal is to get in like a guess of the caliber that we're talking about. That's 10k right there. Yeah, like if you were to get PBD, that's at least that puts you at us at 10k right now.

If you get tape, bro, I mean, Tate is insane.

That's another 50.

The George Anko podcast is like breaking records right now.

Yeah.

And obviously the quality of the interview was. Was bonkers. But, like, it's just Tate's name. Like we saw with Bailey's episode, just having a Tate reference in the title legitimately be 50.

I would say the goal.

50.50K subscribers. All right, guys, you hear that? You gotta help us hit the goal 50, 000 of you.

Yeah, if not, we'll just get an engagement farm in India to do it.

No, bro, never sell out. But anyways, thanks for listening. See you guys.

Appreciate you guys.

Peace.