Day 92- Hierarchy & Flow Grid system100 Days 100 Skill Booster Sessions

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Anything is lagging? No, no, so far nothing. Super. Just a second. We'll be going live in a minute. Okay, fine guys. So now I wanted you guys to understand, like we are going to have a continuation from this day to till December 31st. Okay? So in fact, December 31st will be the hackathon day. That day will be little different. But the rest of the days it is going to be the continued topic. I wanted you guys to pay close attention as well as take care of. Like let's say many people is already good in visual design skills. Many people are already having some knowledge towards colors, typefaces, aesthetics and other things, right? I wanted you guys to park everything aside a little bit for now, okay? So just observe what is happening here. Because every single day we are going to do an activities where you guys are going to find out the flow correctly, how it is going to be connected. Connected together in this entire journey of your design. And once you guys are putting this learnings into your projects, that is where you, you guys will be practicing it more and making it materialized. Because if you're not implementing these parts, like let's say, I would say these are all very, very vital parts. Like let's say when you ask me a question whether Jagdish design is important, the aesthetic is important, or functionality is important, okay? So many people think a UI is aesthetics, right? That's what we all say. Many people think UX is functionality, the core of everything. There is nothing like that. You guys will not see the difference in anything. And if you have also understood, like we also saw the aesthetic gestalt law and then we saw something like we saw more of what you call Rasa theory. We saw more of emotional, what you call design. So this is a little emotional part of it, okay? Which is already been covered. It's already there in the day 78s. I guess you guys can go and watch it out. It's an emotional part of it. Okay, A little bit we have covered aesthetics, but majorly functionality we have covered. We've covered about research, process, prototype, what you call. In fact, we have not covered. Only usability testing will cover it. Not a problem. But there is another angle to it which is totally untouched, which is called aesthetics part of it. So many people would always be attracted by this factor alone. The reason being for everybody, this is the first thing which we see, right? You take nature, you take anything, you take everything which is around you. We all get attracted to things which is most most beautiful. Like most colorful, like let's say most form wise. It is more attractive and sexy in nature. And we used to get attracted naturally towards that. Right? So it is a need of a designer. It is a needed skill of a designer. It's a mandatory skill of a designer to to put your entire design in the form of aesthetics in order to attract the people. So you should not ask a question saying Jagdish, should I give priority for aesthetics a lot or should I give priority for functionality a lot? There is no question. It's a equal. You guys have to keep the functionality also same. The application should look good. It's not only have to look good, it should also functional functionally work good. It should not crash. It should not take a lot of loading time. It should not have problem in terms of selecting which option to do. You guys understanding or not aesthetic is also important. Functionality is also important. Emotional is also important. If you guys three the three. If you guys understand the three points and then when you overlap this into a product, this product is going to become the ultimate success.

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So try to connect the pieces to this part. It is most most important. And at the same time many people think this is the only part of design. Jagdish I thought Figma is only designed. Jagdish I thought doing the software is only design. Jagdish I thought this website building is only design. This is again a wrong misconception. Everything goes beyond aesthetics is even more important sometimes in terms of functionality. Because before 1980s and 70s there is nothing called aesthetics. Design people were not paying close attention to it. Even before 2000 there is nothing called emotional design. People used to do something, okay, it is visually better in that context. I am saying in that context in 1980s and 90s people used to not pay close attention and their awareness and consciousness towards aesthetic is not that great. People don't care how this what you call like let's say this mic. How does this mic really look like? Go and see the 1980s mic. Okay? Go and see the 1980s mouse. I don't know whether the mouse is there or not. You take this timepiece, whatever is there in front of you. You guys have to see the evolution how this form happened. Same functionality only. That time also it is showing time only. But now something else have also happened. In fact, there is another dimension inside the functionality which is called usability, which is called accessibility. So there are a lot of factors. Efficiency, it is going very, very deep into it. But let's understand the big untouched part. Many people have a misconception and many people don't understand fully is aesthetics. And unfortunately no big subjects is being pretty much covered in this. And also people who have covered this subject and they are very expensive. If you have to do it, you will have to practically learn it. It's a subjects where it is being taught in big art schools. How many of you are from art background here, Jagdish? I did bachelor's in arts. Who's from not arts? I would say this painting, sculpting, drawing, animation, that kind of art background. I'm asking. Okay, who's like that art background?

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Nobody is there in this call, but please switch on your camera. Guys, I request you to switch on your camera. I want to see this face.

Okay? Yeah.

So if you guys are coming from the art background, this will be definitely taught as a very, very important subject to you.

Okay?

So that is what you guys are going to learn. Ram Raj, now only you are waking up from the sleep. Good morning.

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After so much. Fine. So the art background people are inherently learning this. So you may ask Jagdish, why it is very important for person like me. You will understand slowly but stay connected till the December 31st.

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I would highly recommend you to do that. Fine. So with that context we will jump into the session. So I am just sharing you the ppt. Hold on. I'm just sharing you the ppt. Just a second.

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One second.

Yeah.

So I'm going to show you one thing, guys.

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I wanted you guys to decipher what are you guys seeing from this picture. Okay, I'm just sharing you the screen. Hold on. Sharing you the screen. Okay, I'm going to show one picture.

Okay.

That picture has some meaning.

Okay.

But you guys have to find it out. Got it? Fine. Is that fine? Take a notepad and pen and please make a note of it. And I wanted you guys to observe this.

Okay? Hold on. Oh yeah.

I'm sorry. Okay, so this is a picture. Guys, can you see this picture? Can you see this picture? Everybody please confirm me first. Can you see the picture? Good. So what are you observing in this picture? Of course. It's a kiss, right? It's okay. Fine. But I wanted you guys to understand what is there in this picture? What are you deciphering? What is the. What are the meaning you are extracting out of it? Observe this.

It.

Yeah, go ahead. Type out in the chat box please.

Fast, fast, fast. Okay.

Two person red color showing feeling of love, affection with nature. There is flower also. No. I want a little deeper answer. Understand what is making you pick? There is two person. Understand what is making you tell that this is a meaning. And there is a brand name also. Did you guys see it in the right bottom. Try to connect the dot relationship. That's okay. More. More. More. Eco friendly. Sharad. Somewhat better.

Okay.

Go ahead. Go to the next trust. It's okay. Good. Next. Think more. Think more intimacy.

Ah.

Good. Fine. But what does it really convey? This is a poster by the way.

Okay.

What does it convey? What does it convey? No, I'm not getting the answers. What I was expecting. Go ahead. What is the first thing you are seeing here? Tell me.

Okay.

What are the second thing you're seeing here?

Tell me.

Center. Scent means. I don't understand. Santa Kanda. Scent means.

Oh.

The second thing means you're feeling the smell. The scent. Is that what you're saying?

Okay.

Chitra is saying two humans.

Okay. Okay.

K is saying fragments. What are the second thing you guys are seeing? First thing you guys are seeing. Flower.

Okay.

Second thing you guys are seeing two humans. Fragrance. Third thing. What you're seeing. Observe it closely. There is nothing much to what you call confuse you. The third thing is Coca Cola.

Okay.

Why not the text? Why Coca Cola? Even all the text is placed in the four corners. Right? Color dial. Okay. Fine. Good.

Okay.

Collaboration between two brands. Where is the second brand? Jayanandini.

Hey.

That plant bottle is not a brand here. That's a sustainable symbol. Recycled symbol I guess. Okay, fine. Fine. So your eyes is going there. That's what is my question. Right. Okay. Got it. So why everybody first sees the flower? Can somebody tell me?

Okay.

Shivraj is little bit getting it. The sequence in which we see the elements.

Okay.

So why did we see flower as a first? Can somebody tell me first? Center aligned. Center aligned. No, I would say not. No. I would say we have a better version to answer this. Prominent.

Okay.

Somewhat Kanda is saying prominent. Okay. Hierarchy. More contrast. There is in fact the red is more contrast, Jain. And that's not the correct answer. It's at the top.

Okay fine. Wait.

Let's see another picture.

Okay.

Let's see another picture.

Okay. Yes.

Can you see the picture? So tell me which is the top? Which is the first thing what you're seeing? What are the meaning? Are you guys getting exhibition text? That's good. Second Everybody. I want Everybody to type 1. Exhibition test 2. What are you saying? Observe it.

Okay.

Then moma. Okay, that's good. You put two for the MoMA. Gandha. Then I'll understand what are you saying? Everybody. Everybody do that one particular word.

2.

Why are you guys not seeing M? Are you guys not seeing M? I thought everybody.

Half M.

Why are we so off track? Totally. Do you guys don't perceive it as a M? Tell me.

If that would have been in white color then it would have been perceived.

Okay.

In fact it is red is the most highest wavelength. We should. We should see red as more. That's also deliberately I've created that visual weight. So people has to get little confusion which to choose first. Okay. Anyway, as we are. That's good. Alphabet M. Okay, that's great. Chitra. Perfect. Black rectangle. Yeah, that's good. Third is black rectangle. Moma black triangle.

Triangle one.

That's okay.

No, there is rectangle also. Guys, can you see in the corner? Right corner. Yeah, yeah, that's also there. But that's not. That's a fourth prominent one. Okay, that's good. That's good.

Okay.

Color highlight. What else? What else? So you tell me why.

Uhhuh.

The white part. That is the exhibition one.

Okay.

That is the top. That. That is the. The half of the M is getting cut in that like.

I got it. But why did we say as the fourth or fifth point? Why did we say first as Yum, second as Momo? Can somebody tell me that first? That's what I'm looking for.

60, 30, 30 principle 60 30.

For me the. The contrast was very high when compared black on white was okay, so okay, my attention.

Got it.

Attention, attention. It brought the attention. Then I am looking down again. Those texts are not that contrasty. Whatever text is there. So immediately the next high contrast was Mom.

Okay, okay.

It is quite on right. So immediately it caught my attention. So that. And got it. And again 4 and the numbers 4 and 14. Those are also in high contrast but relatively smaller in size. So my mind thought that it was not that much important than Momo or exhibition. So it was processing in that way. That is my observation. And M. After you told I could see the M. But the only thing was stopping was that black triangle. I. I was more of thinking like Indian. So this. There is one up there. There is down there. So I that strike. But if it would have been in white then I would have correlated. Okay, there is something there. Since it was black, I couldn't make out Only after you are saying okay, that is a partial.

Superb. But can I ask you Kandalik, why aren't you not seeing this one? That is in fact that is the most most important part of this poster. People have to read about the details of the poster. Right? That's what I'm saying.

That is poor water.

Okay. Okay. Good.

Very poor contrast.

Everybody's agreeing what Kanda said. Now everybody follows what what Kanda is trying to say. Or if you have a difference of thought, please do let me know.

Okay.

So now what I'm asking is. I'm asking a little hypothetical question here.

Okay.

Hypothetically if. If you have to redesign this particular poster, you can use a different color. But I want this to be highlighted first. I'm going exactly the Ulta way, reverse way.

Okay.

If I have to highlight this first. In fact me as a client has to spread my event. I've invested crores of rupees to conduct this particular exhibition.

Okay.

This particular Boma exhibition. I'm choosing Sarat and Kanda or Architra or Giridhar to be my designers who can brand this particular product.

Okay.

And my logo is M. Like let's say I wanted to splashes in the M. And that's how my all posters, my website, my app, everything is there.

Okay.

Keeping red as the same thing. I don't want to change my brand color every day.

Right? Okay.

Red color M. I will give all the constraints now. But can you still make it prominent? Can you guys tell me how it can be possible?

Yeah. One thing.

Did you guys get the understanding what I'm asking? Can you try?

Yeah. One thing. We can put a background to that part of text.

Can we do it practically? Kanda, is it possible? I'll share. You guys can take a screenshot. Can you guys give me one concept? I'll give you a few minutes. Can you guys try it out?

Sure, why not?

Take a screenshot please.

Okay.

Use Canva. Use Word file. Use Microsoft ppt. I don't really care which tool you use. But I wanted you guys to communicate to me clearly. How will you prominently show these guys these two information? From your knowledge, everybody is able to take a screenshot.

Okay.

Fine.

Okay.

I think I should have not shown the left side word layout principles. People are getting it. PPT is not working properly for me. Okay, that's fine. Bold typography and geometric to attract attention. Ramraj, you're using many technical words. Let me see how you are redesigning it.

Okay.

You try to put the words prominently. No. How will you do that?

Ah.

Show me. So I already gave you two constraints. One is I can't change the color. The second is I can't change the yamka Spacing, that's going to be my prominency in my brand. That's my language. Okay, but how I want to still communicate my message. Because if people don't know what message is there, they won't come for the exhibition. And the money, whatever I invested for building the exhibition hall, the food, the arrangement, it's all going to be ultimate waste of what you call money for me. So I want you guys to brand it and bring a lot of people provided if that attention is really good. Like let's say if the poster is covering the proper meaning, then I would get a lot of attendees. I would increase my. What you call revenue in terms of conducting the exhibition will be really high.

Okay.

So you guys hold the maximum responsibility to bring that.

Do it.

You can use this, what you call canvas. That would be better tool. Or maybe if you can use Figma. Also if you're comfortable with this, take a screenshot, put it there. Just show me what you guys are thinking. Even share your screen and explain.

That's okay.

If you're ready. And also very important information today if you guys are gents male.

Okay.

Monday is the day you can take oil bath.

Okay.

If you are women, Tuesday is the day you can take oil bath.

Usually it will be on Saturdays for men.

Yeah.

You can take three days if you are a male.

Okay.

Monday, Wednesday, Saturday.

Okay.

And don't do it in the middle of the day or evening or night. Do it early in the morning.

Okay.

Or max to max before 9am okay. One tip. I'm just forgetting. Maybe I'll tell you.

My mother should hear it.

Good.

Why? Yeah, let's focus on this color. I'll tell you why. Some other just info. That's it. Info, information. Or you can ask ladies. Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. Got it.

No, no, no.

Tuesday, Friday, Sunday, Tuesday, Friday, Sunday. Remember this.

Okay.

There is some. There is a big reason for it. It's not random.

Yep.

Are you guys able to come up with some kind of a solution?

Okay.

It's called Visual Fight. What you're doing is called Visual Fight. How many of you can feel it? You guys have to fight it out. How should I bring this guy? Top.

Okay.

How should I bring this guy? Little Dim. What should I do? How should I blur out the red color prominency? Because the screen is already dominating right? With the red on top of it. How will you do it? Did you guys do something? Can you share your screen one person? It's okay guys. This will take one day for. For me to teach you this entire skills I'm doing it really, really fast. But yeah, fine. I think you guys will get it.

Okay.

Maybe we'll do a visual design workshop in the January. I'm planning to have a second week in the January to have a visual design workshop. Full day. I'm bringing one person who's really big in graphic design in the India. She's like one of the, I would say best person I've seen so far. There is one more guy also who's coming. So along with me, three people are going to conduct this visual design workshop. It's going to happen for full day. I'll teach you all these things very slowly there. But for now, let's complete this as a skill. Yeah, Any one person solution. Ramraj, Sharath. Hey, you guys are visual designers here. Come on. I am expecting a little output from you guys. Kanda particularly. The thing is many graphic designers, when they do this activity, they find the answers. They do the solution also, but they don't know how to. How did they come to that point? What happened? Like if I ask them, hey, why are you seeing this flower as a prominent thing? They will be like, they can't express that. Right. That is the major difference between designer and the. And the. And the people who are just doing artist.

Okay.

People are doing artist and people are doing design. That's the only difference. Okay, so now you guys are doing two finding the reason as well as making it prominent. Okay, can somebody share the screen? Fast, fast, fast. Give me the screenshot. That's enough, More than sufficient. Just copy paste a screenshot in the chat box. Just a second, guys.

Yeah.

We have to move for the next part. Please guys, fast. Just work in progress. No problem.

Fine. Let me just share what was.

No problem.

I am. I have given the permission.

Yeah.

Yeah, I've given you permission.

So I'm just quoting. Allocating, blocking the things. So as we said, it was very prominent. It was very prominent. I'm not sure whether we have the leniency to.

Good, good, good. This is a. I. I can understand your solution, Kanda. Guys, everybody's understanding Kanda's solution. So he's trying to prominently bring that guy. And also I would. I would ask one request. Kanda in your screen.

Huh?

See, look at this. There is one clarification I want. Can you see my mouse? Yeah, something happened.

That is what it is clunking. I do not know why.

Ah, it's okay, fine. So the color is also back white. This color is also white. Can you see the prominence is little bit missing. Yeah, if this color is black or maybe your top of the color is black. Like let's say if I choose this color as black, imagine I'm just keeping it little hypothetical.

Okay.

I'm just keeping this as a black. Now can you see some prominency coming? Maybe it doesn't look good or look good. That is next. But can you see the visual prominency which is the visual prominent coming here? Tell me.

Lausanne.

Okay.

Like let's say I will tell one more thing. Okay, I'll tell one more thing.

Okay.

Now can you tell me which is visually prominent why I made something?

Why?

Because there is some action to it.

Exactly. Exactly.

Very blunt. Now action.

Okay.

So.

Okay, let me put another example. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. How do I duplicate it?

Okay, you want me duplicate One second.

I've given the command. Okay. Okay. Leave that control to me.

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

So what's happening here? Imagine like let's say where is this color here?

Yeah.

Ah. Okay.

What are the contrast of red? I would say we can have something like this.

Okay.

Maybe, maybe, maybe. So I'm doing a lot of things here. Okay, what is happening is I'm doing some colors. I'm giving some borders. I'm giving some. I'm turning some elements.

I'm.

I'm also highlighting certain things. The moment if I add text here in some kind of a fashion, automatically this get highlighted and people will forget the red. People will forget the m. People will forget everything. Can you guys understand that? So we are actually trying to see something. But the designer who's trying to design it wants you to see something. So finally what comes correct? Tell me who wins the game? Finally, finally who wins? The user is trying to find something. The designer is making the user to do something. Finally who is the winner? Who's trying to win?

Here it is. I would say it is both win, win. Right? So if the. The main purpose of the design is.

To.

Do something, make the user do something.

I will tell you what. Many times designer only wins. But if the design is very weak. Like let's say if the design is very weak, then the winner, I mean the person who is seeing wins. You know how the person who's seeing wins, he tries to find what he wants.

Yeah. You.

You failed as a designer. Simple. What is your objective? You want to communicate the exhibition details, right? Have you communicated that or not? No. That means you have gone. Sometimes user he wins. But most times designer only wins because you as a designer, if you fight it very strong, if you do it in a very Very proper visual hierarchy way. You will be able to create a massive hierarchy for you. See, you can pick colors, you can pick gradients, you can pick shapes, you can do what you call movement like actions. You can create repetitive elements, you can arrange it, you can create a composition out of it, you can harmony, rhythm, you can do whatever you want. But end of the day, what are you trying to do? Have that been objectively met or not? That is the big question you'll have to ask. Whenever you're creating a designs, even in the visuals, even in the poster, even in the portfolio, make sure you ask this one question. Fine. Now let us see one more activity. I wanted you guys to tell me really, really fast. What are you seeing first here? I mean, the entire context is now very clear for all of us. We all know why we are doing this. Tell me, what are you seeing this first year?

Urban.

Any. Everybody's urban. I want everybody's answer. Not one person. Tell me. Think and tell me. Guys, don't. Don't impulsively tell. No. Who said arrow dayal? Perfectly right. Why tell me? Okay. Anyway, again, people will say it's subjective. It's okay, fine. But to be very honest, the arrow is the only thing. Can I tell you why? Because it's moving in a direction. It has a dynamism, it has a color contrast. Particularly it's a luminescent color. And also it is exactly in the golden cut. How many of you know golden cut? How many of you know schnell cut? We'll talk about it later. But this is exactly in the place where our eyes first goes and hits. That's what a designer wants. Okay, Second, what do you want? What you guys are seeing? Many people are saying urban. That's okay, fine. But what are you seeing on the second? Type two and write your answer fast, fast, fast. Type two. What is the second thing? What you're seeing? Typography. Okay, you guys are saying typography a second. Okay. What are the three? What are the three? Balaji saying two as arrow. Okay, that's good. See, some visual fight is happening, right? Okay. What are the 3? What are the 3? What is this? What are the 3rd? What is the 3rd? Tell me correctly, what is the 3rd? What is the third? Come on guys, tell me, what is the third? Everybody's silent now. Big yen. Okay. Why begin. Okay, typography.

Okay.

Good, good, good, good, good. Aren't you guys not seeing this?

The small arrow on top of you.

Exactly. Where is you?

Ha ha ha.

So why we prioritize text over symbols. Can somebody tell me here, see, of course urban is there. See either if you wanted to make the user focus the urban mode, you will have to make it so prominent more than this arrow or the color or the weight of this visual element in order to create a hier. Right. Like let's say if you guys are building a particular. Like let's say an option like this. This entire poster itself is dynamic. Can you see this is not a linear form of poster and they have started playing with that. In fact, you will have to tilt your head to see what's happening here.

Okay.

In fact there is a lot of visual elements going. But the first catch, what we are getting is arrow. But for some people it is urban. That's totally fine. No problem. It's. It's. For some people, the way in which you see the visuals is very, very different.

Okay.

See people in the Arabic background, like let's say people who write this Urdu. I'm not sure. Arabic, right? They start from the right hand side. They don't write it from the left hand side. Same like our context. These people eyes are tuned and trained to see elements from this side. They will not see this arrow first. They will only see Urban first. How many of you agree to this? Let's say your client is from Arabic. Or maybe if you're creating a global brand. Okay, you'll have to consider this because not all visual elements will succeed and you will not win that fight because they will fight and they will win their own thing and your communication is lost. Okay, and the third thing is we are prioritizing this icons over text. Can somebody tell me why we always prioritize icons over text?

Tell me.

Symbols are universal and we have been using symbols from the past. Text came later. So we are really attached to pictures and icons, whatever camp, paintings, whatever you take it is basically symbols, right?

Apart from Kanda. I want one more answer. Kanda is telling always correctly. More. More. I want more people to tell mean other people to tell. Easily identifiable. Excellent, Ramraj. Of course Kanda gave the context. But you guys should know about it. Why we always prioritize icons over text? Tell me. Easily identifiable. Kanda also gave a context. More. Even more. There is an answer. Tell me.

See, even a person who is not literate can understand the meaning, right?

Yes, perfectly. Good. Good. Makes sense. Understand. No, understand is very rough. Go a little deeper. What is making them understand? That's what I'm asking.

Are universal.

That's what Kanda put it. Universal. See universal in the context. What I Would see as a universality is if you can able to ask sun, everybody will draw the round shape. Why.

Tell me?

We see it, right?

And we've been ingrained in our DNA with that shape, right? If you ask anybody how does a tree look like? The symbol comes automatically, right? So people who have not even seen the text, visuals or anything, it's. It's not required for them to teach a particular shape. It does context because it's. We have been seeing this for a very, very longer time. Blue colors. We know blue is for sky, blue is for like let's say trust, right? We, we don't have to teach a person. Blue is for trust. It's already been ingrained in our DNA more, more, more strongly than some of the other colors. That is why some of the brands they wear, they take blue as a color. Like let's say indigo. Like let's say banking sectors. Like let's say aircraft, Lufthansa, Indigo. And you can say the State bank of India. You can say Facebook. Facebook is a platform trust. Twitter is not exactly blue. LinkedIn is little bit blue.

Okay.

And you can take some other brands. Don't ask me why. Domino's is blue. Food brand should not have blue color. If you have food brand as. Have you eaten blue chapati? Have you eaten? Blue is not really good for eating the consumption and other things.

Okay?

Brown will be good for eating. How many of you have observed that why coffee is brown, why roti is brown, why most of the food items are brown? Tell me red color coffee. We don't, we don't prefer that, right? So there are certain things which has been ingrained in us. So we as a designer have to decipher that first and bring that to our design then and only we can able to connect the people perfectly to that, right? Are you guys getting it? So now I wanted you guys to show me.

Show you.

Hierarchy organizes content based on importance, guiding the viewer's attention. Visual flow ensures a smooth reading or viewing experience. Are you guys getting it clear? Hierarchy emphasizes the use of size, color, placement. These three things are very, very important things which you guys have to remember. We saw what size the size of this particular poster. What is making the flower come out. Everything is red and white. Only this guy is little green and white. Can you see? That's why it's little bit getting prominent. And also this is law of figure and ground. How many of you have understood this? How many of you can see that we are not seeing humans. We are not seeing the kiss action because we can see only the kiss action. Sorry, one second. We can see only the kiss action. Because of what? Because of only this separation. Imagine if this has been put red in color. We will not see. There is two humans available here. Are you guys getting it? This is called figure and ground, by the way. Okay, Placement. How does it gets placed here? And mostly the color takes over. So this is the part. This is called hierarchy and visual flow. The second we saw about this exhibition, we saw about how the dynamic action is being placed and we saw about M. Imagine if the M is very small, we won't be able to see this, right? Imagine if this is not put properly, we will not get conveyed what are the information, Right? Very important and also most, most attractive thing is this particular poster. Very confusing, but we all try to make it so. Even when you are making a visual design, even when you're trying to create a meaning out of your communication, like let's say a thumbnail or maybe on your behance profile in your website or anywhere. Make sure you remember these three words. Size, color, placement. If you are not fighting and making the right choices, your user will do a fight and he will win the war and you will lose. Ultimately, many people are asking me, right, how to make a aesthetically visually attractive portfolio and all these things. There is nothing called aesthetically visually attractive. You will have to find out these elements. You will have to win it first. You will have to analyze it and first become conscious about it. Then and only you can replicate it in your screens. Tool is just a tool. You can just use the tools. But the point here is the communication should be very strong. Your understanding should be very strong in terms of what hierarchy means. Okay, so now can you tell me in this poster, what are you inferring from this poster? Tell me. Very interesting poster this is. Come on, observe it very closely. Very, very interesting thing. Tell me, what are you guys getting again?

It is about the hierarchy and contrast. Even if you see that you will read this first. 41st C is you. Because there is some contrast between you and will read this.

Okay, yeah, it is obviously understood. We have seen the examples of earlier. Can. My question is. My question is little different. When will you apply this? Where will you apply this and what context you will apply this?

Tell me newspapers or the.

Okay, good, good.

Why posters like see the eye always gazes from the left to right. So whatever it is in the from the left, it. It starts to perceive lot than the right one. So that's why you will be probably that. That you will be probably read this. Read this before. The paragraph is something like you are creating a weight.

Perfect. We are creating a weight. We are trying to create like a paragraph. But my only question is why are we doing this? Like let's say what are the main intention of doing this? We can keep everything in same weight. Now why are we doing that?

It is to give them importance on certain aspects of the text. It can be. Yeah or something makes sense. That is the they want to proceed further then they can proceed further. If the first instance, if they do not connect with it, they are not going to leave it.

Cool. Have you seen many brand posters and labels?

I just remember one thing. In older advertisements the originality of the ghee will be written like either suttamana naheel seiya pata. The Allah will be written very down. Very like.

That's what I'm exactly trying to say Aishwarya. Super. You got my point. I. I thought you guys will point out that. Because the main application of using this is exactly what Aishwarya pointed out. Now because as a norms, as a compliance we should mention tobacco is bad for health. But will you put tobacco is bad for health like this? Then the brand will go bankrupt next day itself. But it is a government norms to put that. You know, you guys know about it. It's a compliance. You will have to put it even for our medical device. We'll have to put the exact harm of the device. What are the temperature it should be operated but not in this way at the same time. I will tell you another contrast of this Aishwarya. If this is more more safety critical apart from branding. If you have to communicate it to your user like let's say your user is a warehouse people who's going to pack this device?

Okay.

There is something called primary packaging, secondary packaging. Let's say you're designing some product, okay. And you are the designer there and you're trying to create a packaging design for that. That's called primary packaging, secondary packaging. The secondary packaging should come with the instruction handle with care glasses inside. At that time you should use this hierarchy a lot. Why? Because the person who is using that is a warehouse. People who are wearing gloves and they want to see it big and they see lot of boxes around. In order to make them visually different you will have to put handle with care as big. How many of you understood now? It's exactly a different use case. And when he opens that, the user opens that or maybe the dealer who's opening that. Of course dealer will open that big box. And then he will take out the product. And then he'll put the product outside in that product. Your brand should compost. Are you guys getting. The tagline should come second. The functionality should come third. The expiry date, manufacturing date, price, everything should come down. So please understand this is the most, most, most fundamental skill of a designer. To make a hierarchy around it. And also it is completely intertwined with your functionality. Functionality. Functionality. That is why you should know who is your use case. Many visual designers, many graphic designer artists don't connect these dots. Because they don't know who is the end user. They don't understand what's happening in the warehouse. They don't understand who is going to open this package. They don't know who's going to read it first. They don't know what emotion it is connecting to the people. This is where we as a designer are becoming so much different. And we are creating this entire dot. The moment when you understand, you will start creating a huge difference in your workers. Nobody can touch your work. You will be connecting the dots and you make one concept and that gets selected. That's it. No fight. Nothing. Everybody likes your design. One go collect complete it. Your manufacturing team will like it. Your sales team will like it. Your branding team will like it. Your development team will like it. Your poster design team will like it. Your management will like it. Everybody will like it. Because nobody can question that. It has a meaning, it has a function. It has aesthetics on top of it. You also value the brand language and you do it. See how many spots are coming here. In order to make a sweet spot, you will have to touch all this aspect. How our design concepts are getting rejected is because we don't understand these factors. That is why we are all getting rejected with the concept after concept. Right? What will you read first? There is some difference compared to the earlier poster to this one. Can you tell me what?

High contrast.

Yes, the color contrast. Right. See here, there is no big color contrast.

Why?

Because it's already playing with two colors only. You can use this also as a possibility. I told you, right? Color, size, placement.

Okay.

We'll talk about placement detail in the coming sessions. But let's understand these basics. And can you see this here? It's a mix of the first use case. The second use case. Can you see this here? So what are you guys seeing it? First tell me.

Saving lives.

Okay.

Saving lives. C. C is not meant to be seen first. That is why they have dimmed the color. Are you guys getting this consciousness of course, C will be the first thing which people will see. But automatically SEI will not come first because they put it as a gray color. Saving lives will come first. Okay, Understand this part. So this is actually called grid. This is not just visual hierarchy. This is also called grid. I will tell you why it is grid. Listen to this. Like, let's say they have encapsulated this entire thing in a proper grid. Can you see this? Can you see this? Can you see this? They have not visually drawn it, but. But it is exactly understood by the eyes that this has been perceived as a second. How many of you are seeing this as a separate, separate element? How many of you are seeing this as a separate, separate element? Exactly. This is one small grid. This is again a grid. There is another grid. This is again another grid. Okay, this is again another grid. Can you see it here? Everything what we see in our eyes, it's all perceived in terms of groups and elements. That's how our eyes are already trained. We are in that world. In gestalt law we saw very detaily. But yeah, grids provide a structure for the layouts what we already saw, aiding the alignment and consistency. So why we see certain things is also because of grids. Hierarchy, grids. Both are important. Both has to come in play together. If you guys are not using that, guys, I'm telling you, you will make some screens which will not be connecting any user, which will not be understood by any user. You guys will be struggling to convey the meaning properly.

Okay.

They help create an organized and visually pleasing design. Hey, where is this pleasing design coming? Jagdish, I don't understand what is pleasing here? What does your context? Tell me what does mean by pleasing according to you? Come on, Kanda. Come on. Sharath, what is pleasing according to you? Tell me. Pleasing. Conveying the matter in a very normal and proper way. Okay, any more definitions?

I should not take much of an effort to understand it. I should not put any of my skills like.

Okay. Sharath gave an answer. Sharath. Sharath. I want everybody to rename. What did you say as an answer in one word? What is mean by aesthetically pleasing according to you? Okay, two words you can take. Can you rename in your zoom please? I wanted to see everybody. What is their context? Are you guys seeing? I'm putting in the gallery mode. Okay, come on. Can you rename? Can you rename? I wanted to. I. I wanted you guys to concise your thought process. What does mean by pleasing according to you? And rename it. First go to Three dots. Click it and rename it in zoom. You can definitely do it.

Okay.

Anju Akshita, Aishwarya, Shankar Karan Pavitra Jain and please do it. Yeah. You can rename it here Mea. That's what I'm asking. Rename it. Rename in your zoom. Can you rename it? There is a reason why I'm asking you to do it. Okay. Don't change his name. Don't change his name till the end of this week.

Okay.

You guys are going to come with that only in the coming calls. What is visually aesthetic or pleasing according to you? Rename it one or two words. No story. Guys, are you finding the. I did not ask you complex question. Guys, it's just a 3 seconds job. Kanda, can you rename it? Actually we have. In the three dots in the zoom screen, go to the right top corner there'll be a dots. Click that and you will find the option of renaming.

That is what I'm trying to find out. I'm not getting it.

Okay. I've changed it for conduct. That's in the more option.

No. Right.

More in the down. Wait, wait, wait. I'm. I'm.

You are using a Mac or a window.

Hey. Participants is allowed to rename. Everybody can.

No, no, no. The options will change from Mac to Windows. No, the position of option. So we are using Windows most of the time.

It's okay. Everything will come here. Zoom application is common for everybody. And also only thing is as admin I should give permission. The permission is there. I'm saying you can right click the profile. Our like the image, the video. And there is this rename option.

Ah yeah.

That's what I'm asking the. Oh you guys are seeing the three dots. My communication is wrong. In your picture video there is a three dots. I'm sorry. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. I did not communicate. Okay, no problem. Okay. I've changed it for Kanda.

Okay.

Less effort. K. Can you rename it now? Less work is not the correct word. I think less effort you can. Okay, I'll change it for you.

I am changing it.

Ah.

No issues. Okay fine. Sharath Dayal Ramraj Shivraj Neeraj. Or else you tell me guys, I'll change it for you.

It's okay.

Important but hard to place. Prioritize Anju. Can you concise it into two words or one word Prioritize. Can I take that? Anju prioritize. But please put your camera guys and then I won't know who are you?

Okay.

Switch on the camera. I'll put Anju as prioritize prior three.

Okay.

I'll put prioritize Anju so that to have the name people are not switching on the camera. So how should I?

Okay.

Easy ux. Easy ux Visually yesterday.

Okay.

Easy Ux. Shivraj, you can put Shiv. You can put shortly Shiv.

Okay.

Still easiness.

Okay.

Easiness. Sharath, you can put.

Okay.

Minimalism. Giridhar, you can put a easy understanding can be made one word. Jaya. Come on. You can. You can make it even more as a one word.

Okay.

Aishwarya Shankar can make it clam. Calm or calm clam. Something is off in that.

Okay.

Can you put a name for me? I'm not getting.

It's me.

Ram Raj.

Ah.

Okay. What do you want to rename?

Tell me.

I'm not getting. That's why I'm asking. I thought you are not getting the rename option. Tell me. You are. You are somewhat close to this field actually compared to any other people here. Fast. Fast. Everybody has done only few people make now. What about you Karan? What about you Aishwarya Shankar? What about you?

Doing like this.

Yeah.

Ram Raj, Tell me one word please. What is aesthetically pleasing according to you? Leave everybody here. You can repeat also. No problem. Tell me. We need to complete this session also fast. Ramraj, take a decision.

Okay.

I leave it up to you. You change it.

Okay.

So what are you guys trying to understand here? I asked you only one question. Why answer is all different? One is trying minimalism. One is saying easiness. Another one is saying golden ratio. What is that ratio? Here you derive that calculation for me. Another. Another buddy is saying easy ux. Chitra is saying simple. Kanda is saying less effort. See there is a huge connection between this. Less effort, easiness, simple emphasized. Can you see some connection of the dots? Can I tell you something? The people who have written this, their designs will all be same. The same in the sense we can easily decipher that audiences. Set of audiences. And there is another guy who is like minimalism.

Okay.

There's another guy who's. How do I connect the dots here? See if a lot of people are there, it'll be very fun actually.

Okay. Ha.

Can you see satisfaction Easy UX and engaging. These people design will be little different. These people's design will be very different. Why? Why? Tell me why. Bold and instant capture. Bold instant capture and prioritize. These people's design will be very different. Their character and personality will be Little bit same. Who's that? Bold Aishwarya and Jaya and Meknas. Maximalism. See the. What is this guy Giridar is saying minimalism. But some people are saying maximize. Can you see. Can you see some difference here? Can you see some difference of the context and understanding of visual aesthetics? Are you guys seeing why your portfolios are very different? Are you guys seeing why your portfolios are not sometime aligned? Why your visuals? You are not liking it? First can you get the meaning now can you get the understanding now? Are you guys getting it or not? Tell me. Leave this visual hierarchy, grid, everything. That's okay fine. But first of all are you reflecting that? So I asked you the one question, very simple everybody. But the answers are coming very different. And if I ask you one week after same question to rename yourself. Maybe Sharath may write minimalism. Kanda may write golden ratio. Why? Over the time it changes also why? Okay, let's not talk about one week. Let's talk about today. Why did we write differently? Tell me. You will do this activity one more time. Later you will connect the dots. But now tell me please. I want the. I want the answer from each and every one of you. Why did we write different? Why not everybody is typing the same answer.

For visual aesthetics, prioritize priorities differ. Differ. Right? I may prioritize something and others might prioritize something. Their needs or wants will be different, right?

No, it is not about needs. Wants. Kanda, my question is. I've asked one question, right? Aesthetically pleasing. What is according to you? So we are giving contextual answers. Everybody. Context is very different. So why that context is very becoming different. So you are saying the priority matters a lot. Maybe there let's say priority is same. Like let's say I'm giving you a priority to design a poster. Keep yam as the same in the MoMA. Now Sharath, Giridhar, Shitra. Everybody has the same context. No change. I'm keeping your constant as same. Whatever you said Kanda, I'm putting that as same on top of it. If I ask to rename you, you will still put another rename. Tell me why.

Maybe my perspective is different.

Thought process. Somebody has got the answer. Who said that? Thought process. Thought process. Okay.

Okay.

Can somebody give more answers for this? Perception.

Huh?

Perception. Perception. Okay, to a certain extent. But Sharath has a little Sharath answer is. Is good. I wanted you guys to tell the correct answer. I mean there is no correct. But there is a boundary to correct. So there is a boundary inside which these Answers are lying. So the more closer you come near the boundary the the better understanding we everybody will have in this call.

Tell me the person character.

What?

What?

The person character.

The person's character.

Okay. Okay.

Somewhat closer guys. Somewhat closer. Somewhat closer. Somewhat closer. Somewhat closer. Person's character perception and what Sharad said thought process. So I am now fixed the priority as the same Kanda said priority. Right? I am locking that priority is everybody is same priority. Ramraj is not going to work on N or O. He's also going to work on Yam. Shivraj is also going to work on Yam. This dial is also going to work on. Everybody is going to work on Yam only. But even if I ask you to bring the M in that particular thing, everybody will make it differently. Why?

Are you talking about cultural bias or something?

Exactly. That's what I'm trying to understand here. That's what I'm trying to understand. Now the layer two answer is coming. But there is something like a layer three answer. Can somebody give me that layer one answer? What Sharat gave Sharath and few more people like how you perceive, how you think. Second, what is your culture? Okay, Kanda is saying culture. Now I want the level three answer. Come on. A little more deeper answer. Can somebody tell me with that? We'll be concluding this session. If that answer is coming. Think about it. You don't have to answer me. Really quick. Think about it for few seconds.

If the second layer is culture. Next layer is demography. Where we there there is nothing.

Second, third and all. Just there's this. I'm trying to decipher. There are even fourth fifth elements also. Maybe I am also exploring. Still I'm not. I'm not stopping my learning. But there are three layers which I found out so far. But you guys can also stretch my dimension. You guys also can stretch my perspective. Perspective. Nothing wrong. I'm just asking you. Understanding of the world. Word or world. Day to day. Experience. Insight. Personality difference. Yes, Anju, we have already discussed that part.

Good. Okay.

Culture. So people are saying culture. Ethnography is also a little bit inside it. Can I understand that way?

Fine.

Anju is getting somewhat closer. Geography. How many of you felt this? Imagine if Kanda is born and brought up. He's also culturally. Tamil Nadu. Wherever. Where are you from, Kanda?

Tamil Nadu.

Okay, Tamil Nadu. Which place?

Here?

Pondicherry.

Okay, Pondicherry. Let's say if Kanda is born and brought up in. Born in Pondicherry and Tamil Nadu. But he's completely brought up in A cold, cold, cold region in New York City.

Okay.

And he's coming to the session on December 23, 2024. And I'm asking him the question, Kanda, tell me what is aesthetically visually pleasing according to you? Kanda's answer will be entirely different. Why? There is a huge difference between New York and Pandiche. Why? The question is why cold? What, what are the. What are the. What is the difference between temperature and aesthetic pleasing? Jagdish, you guys have to draw, okay? Climate. That's what I can understand. Climate influence is there. But how is it influencing our. How is this influencing our whole perspective towards seeing aesthetics? Tell me that. That's what I'm. That's what I'm asking you. Okay, again you're going back to the layer two here. Culture, emotional difference. Okay, okay, okay, fine. Okay. Surroundings.

Okay.

See guys, I wanted you guys make such things different.

Tell me, Ramraj, Ramraj, I'm not understanding.

Is it about influences that you are getting? Or our living environment may makes us think different?

Yes, yes, little bit. Getting closer. We're getting closer, but not exactly getting that. Okay, for fine. So what I'll give you is. Guys, you guys take this one question in this today's session and try to give me the answer. And also I wanted you guys to justify one more thing. How many of you know about Scandinavian design? Tell me.

I do.

Everybody knows Scandinavian design. Have you seen Scandinavian people? They use white, black, gray. Have, have anybody known the reason why they do it? See, I don't know. We are all being too much allude with this European concept. And we all say minimalism. Minimalism, Minimalism. Okay, one or the other way, Giridhar is also influenced. If I strip down that layer from Giridhar, okay, like let's say if I'm stripping down that layer from Giridhar and then I'm going deep, Giridhar will answer something like, let's say Giridhar, you are from Kerala, right? If I strip down Kerala from Giridhar, then Giridhar will tell one more answer. Giridhar is a human now.

Okay?

Giridhar is a human now with the education, with the background, with the teachings of his own parents and everything. If I even strip down that, then I ask what is visually aesthetically pleasing for you? His answer will be very different. So we are all built by layers. We as a designers has to understand what layer are we wearing. It is very, very vital. That's why I told you, Kanda, if he's from New York, he will see this Moma posture very differently. He will decipher it differently. Okay, so the third question, I'm just keeping it open. You guys have to find the answer. Okay. And one more elite question I'm asking with this third question. Why certain people use this particular colors. White, black, gray. And particularly you can see in their products. Like let's say you can see Volvokar. It's a Scandinavian brand. You can see a brand called Skagen. How many of you know this watch brand Skagen? You can see this ikea. IKEA is also minimal. Minimal. I mean the Scandinavian brand. You can see a brand called. What are the Scandinavian brand? I can say you can take many architecture furnitures here. Who is architect here make. Now please go. Guys, please go and understand. Today you guys have to go and study about Scandinavian and try to give me an answer tomorrow in the session in the hackathon. Why white and black? Says people are using a lot. White, blacks.

Great.

White, blacks, gray. Why not too much fancy colors? Yeah, of course they also use colors, but the proportion in which they use is very, very different. If people can tell me that you guys are going to get 100 points additional. Can I tell me today?

Huh?

Can I itself.

You're trying.

Yeah, yeah.

But it should not. I. I mean, Kanda, I want everybody to think, okay, you can personally message me that let us put the people in spin. No, for one day let's understand. Fine. Maybe what will happen is Kanda, the. The people will start polarizing in one direction. If we start putting. I should not keep a too much open boundary. That's why I gave little two, three boundaries so that you guys a little bit narrowed down. Or else you guys will be lost. You guys will come up tomorrow and tell me something else you will forget. Why did we learn higher? That should not happen. But same time tomorrow. Kanda, you build a little narrative for that answer.

You.

I know you have one answer. Build a little narrative and tell me if you can communicate that answer through a poster also. That will be great. And please don't rename yourself. Keep it. I don't want you guys to change this name, okay? I don't want you, Akshita Mekna, please do change your name. But I don't want you guys to rename till the end of this week. I'm gonna. I'm gonna connect this dot slowly for you.

Okay?

Are we getting it?

Okay.

Kanda is feeling a little bit bad. Jagdish, why didn't you allow me to test? No, no, no, no.

I see. As I said, Maybe my answer may be right or wrong. I'm saying, as you said, if I give something, no people will be biased towards that. They will try to dig more on that.

Yeah, because I wanted to see the real. We want to break the layers, the social layering, what we got. Okay, Soon Kanda is going to break the Pondicherry. Also soon Kanda is going to break the Tamil culture. Whatever. So we have to, we have to strip and see what's there inside. What are you talking?

Okay, okay, fine.

You guys will enjoy a lot. This subject is very deep. The moment when you find out, see, you guys have to find the answer. There is nothing I'm going to teach here. Nobody can teach this kind of a concept. It's all exploration. And we will have to find that the moment when you're stuck. Okay, this is where I have to really get stuck. I'm telling you guys, the way in which you will pivot as a designer will be very different and you will never come back because you anchored to one point and that point is what I'm asking. Partially you guys have found it, but tomorrow you will have to confirm me a lot.

Okay?

So grid is also one important way in going forward. I already told you about this and this is what is the basics of grid. You guys can do it in Figma and you guys can do it in mobile vertical application. You must have seen without grids we can't make the people see in that particular direction. Okay, Grids are the total constraints in which the entire design, elements, icons has been placed.

Okay?

Everything you can take editorial design. Everything is being placed in a grids. If it is not placed in a grid, our eyes will not have a direction to see. Okay. There are numerous ways to use a basic column grid. One column has been reserved for the image caption and other for text. Right? You can see in the editorial design and all these things. So everything is made up of grids. You can see everything is made up of systematically a grid system. So that the system and grids, if it is placed together, people will perceive the elements very easily. If you guys are constructing each of your screens and other things with respect to the grids, you guys will see a huge difference in your design and you will see a discipline happening. Can you see if I use the same picture and text in a very, very random way? Like let's say even if I put it in the golden ratio, even if I put it in the easiness, what Sharad said, Easy ux, whatever, you guys will still find it very Difficult to do it. But if you have grids in place and then you align it, you will have so much consistency in your visual design. That's why I recommend don't send this figma files and other Miro files to the people. You first create a very good presentation flow. You decide how your user wants to see this and then share it with the people. So people has to see in that direction. Only then only they're going to get the connect or else they will feel too different. Here. You will not be able to make your user get what you really wanted to say. You have failed as a designer. I'm telling you, failure will be lot.

Okay?

The same Scandinavian design. If people out there in the Somalia. Somalia. How many of you know Somalia? It's one of the. I mean, we know more of the things about Somalia. If the people in Somalia are seeing, maybe their perception is very different. They won't be able to see exactly what we are seeing. So think about it. That's why tomorrow the answer, whatever I'm expecting should have a little context around it. And once you guys are doing it and automatically you will be getting the clarity. See, look at this grid system. Look at the colors, look at the placement. It's all very, very poor. According to me. It is like can you see it here? There is also meaning associated here. But we are not able to see anything here, right? Our portfolio look like this only. Our. Our Mira file looks like this only. When you send a figma file to recruiter and many times you will not even give the access and people ask to again request. Do you think the recruiter will come back follow and give a request to you? Our people are very brilliant. I don't know why. Okay, so this is what is a poor grid system. What we have and we don't understand this. The moment when you understand column gutters, margin, your designs will go high.

Okay?

I just wanted to cover with you because hierarchy, grid, this flow is all connected together, okay? It's not different. It's all connected together. You will have to understand this, okay? Like let's say column is the difference between. I mean the entire width of the entire text. Like let's say if you're building this in the paragraph, okay, Gutter. The gaps in between the columns are called gutters. Can you see this? This is called gutter. Editorial design terms. You don't have to memorize it, but just get some understanding. Because if you guys are constructing something in the grid, you should get the understanding. Margin, margins of the space between corner of the page to the content.

Okay.

Like let's say if you're going and printing out, if you guys are going and printing a magazine or something, if you guys are going to take a see. There is one activity which we did in the earlier batch. We printed all of our portfolio. I wanted them to touch and feel that honestly speaking there is, I mean time is a very, very limitation factor or else I would make you do that. You guys have to print your colors and portfolio, a one or two page at least and see the way in which you feel with your hands and then you see it visually. And when you see the color what you gave in the screen and the color, what is there reflected here, you guys will be totally disappointed.

Okay.

Many times in very, very high profile design interviews, they will ask you to bring your portfolio live. How many of you have experienced that? Nowadays it is little different because people are not going very deeply into design. But we would expect people also to bring bring that portfolio in life. Because we need to get the understanding how that person is getting the visuals. Right? The cmyk, rgb, whatever you're seeing, it has to be printed in the paper as well. Then and only there is a reality coming. That's why I always believe in paper prototyping physically. Because when you take a printout, make a prototype, the perception is very, very different for you. Many people are forgetting nowadays, but I don't know why. Okay, so this is what is called grid system. This is what is called hierarchy. Focal is not the point here. We'll see some other day. Guys. Are you guys finding out? This class is interesting. It will be more interesting when you explore your inside you. Okay, Teaching is not the big point. You can learn it in Google also this, this particular points are there in Google and what you call chat GPT as well. But the more you explore yourself and find out the answer tomorrow when you come tomorrow, everybody has to build a small story for that answer. What you guys are thinking about Asia Precinct visual and make a small poster out of it. Can you guys try it out? Definitely. Kanda would love to do it. But other people can you try to bring a small poster out of it? Maybe you can design an icon here. Maybe you can design a poster. I'm not restricting you. You do whatever you want. Maybe you do whatever you want. I'm not really worried about how you want. But that poster should tell your personality. Like let's say if it's Dayal, if I have to see Dayal, if I have to see golden ratio, if I have to See his poster. If I have to see this answer this 4 has to look same and that one poster has to give you the meaning of it. Can we try this? And with that I'm going to do lot of things in the future in the coming days.

Okay, Keep it.

This is going to change your brand. This is going to change your identity. This is going to change your what you call the way in which you put your portfolio.

Okay?

Try it out today. I wish you all the best. I and three teams who are still working on it, we'll try to find a time today night and then we'll have a small presentation and other three teams please work on the feedback whatever I gave you along with your team and implement it fast.

Okay?

I wish you all the best.

Take care.

Have a great day. Have a great start of the week.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Bye bye.

Bye.

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