Nathan Miller plays chess while answering rapid-fire questions about dropshipping, product selection, and e-commerce. He discusses why most product tests fail, recommends Breakthrough Advertising for copywriting, and shares his skepticism about paid mentors versus learning from case studies.
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Am I even screen? What am I streaming on? Am I streaming on YouTube? There's no way. Oh, don't worry. Can you guys hear me? What's going on? Oh, no way. It's actually working. This is crazy. Okay, yeah, let me know if you guys can hear me. I'm about to get hulked, bro. Get. Get the hell out of here, boy. Hold up. Because I didn't just leak anything tonight. Okay, we go. I've been watching all your stuff recently, yo. Appreciate it, Jackson. You guys can hear me though, right? Put a. Put a W in the chat if you guys can hear me. What up? Wait, I'm gonna get. Let me get warm here. I play terrible chess when I'm streaming, just, by the way, so don't be expecting me to play very good here. Let's solve some puzzles. Let's go. Let's get warm here. Let's see, we got. That was really easy. And then here. Where'd he go? Yeah, got that. Yeah. Yo, I got a question. What's your 3 mil video? A cheese grater. It's popping off recently on kill day. Should I run it? I'm storing. Cheese grater. Cheese grater, bro. Perhaps. Perhaps. Actually, bro, is it actually popping off of you? I'm kind of curious. Check this out real quick. It is not popping off again, bro. It is not popping off again. This is not. This is not what I'd call popping off, dude. I was selling this thing. I sold this thing like when it was peaking, bro. So, I mean, it had a little bit of a stint, but. Yo, what's up, Intelligent money? Yeah, I don't know. That's nothing crazy, bro, to be honest. To be honest. To be honest. To be honest. 5k soul plus. I mean, you can definitely try to run it, bro, but I mean, I could show you right now there's gonna be some jeets already running it, so prepare to have competition. I don't run it anymore, if you're wondering. I know there's going to be a shoot ton of people. Yeah, we got everyone and their moms running this thing, dude. Look, I searched up 130, actually. I don't know. Maybe, bro, maybe. Maybe you got a shot there, but, you know. What's up, Manual? I'm doing pretty good, bro. Back in. Back in Salt Lake. I'm gonna. I'm gonna play a game here, see how it goes. I need to start playing some music too. Can I play music if I'm live streaming? Screw, bro. I don't care. Spotify. I need some music. In my life right now. Let me make a move. We're going E4, boys. E for always. Okay, where to go? Bishop to right there. All right. These. Dude, he's being a little goofy here. So we defend the pawn. And he can't move this because we have checkmate. What's up, bro? I've been binging your videos. They're amazing. Thanks, dude. I. I've been kind of slacking on the videos recently, guys, but I was in Miami filming that video with Jordan Welch, so I was pretty, pretty busy. I could not be uploading. This is kind of a weird move. Oh, okay. That's interesting. What? Okay, so I have to move my queen here. I can move it here, but then you can push that out. So I think the peso. Okay. I need to protect this for sure. So I want to. I think, honestly, right here. I like this because if he moves this, then I can take that. I think that's a good play. I think it's a good play. Look at the Eastern Orthodoxy, bro. What, are you trying to make me Jewish or something, bro? I'm a Christian, bro. What did I just do? Okay, so bros gave up his bishop, I believe. Thank you. I'm so. I'm so. Oh, my God. All right, well, we can't castle anymore. It sucks, but we're. I didn't even see that. Oh, my God, bro. Oh, my God. I'm so. This is really bad. All right, we still. We still got this. Somehow this dude. What's his rating? 70? Yeah, he's. This guy's not good. Oh, you know you're not taking my again, bro. Sorry. I'm trying to start drop shipping on a low budget. You think 10 year. No, dude. €10 a day is not enough, bro. Get your money up. Not your funny up, dog. Just gonna be real with you there, brother. That ain't enough. I kind of. I want to keep this diagonal, but let's attack that. Nathan, are you going to make some kind of strategy video or something? 3 million is a lot. Incredible. I mean, I've made a few kind of videos like that. I haven't really done a case study on that store, but I don't really want to do a case study on that store anymore because, like, the method is, it doesn't work as well as it used to. So, I mean, I don't know. We just gotta see bro attacking this. Yo, what's up? Say or sigh, Dude, I don't know how to say your name, bro. Hope you're doing well, though, bro. I didn't know you had a little, little YouTube account. Do you think if you can seal a piece of the pie and skill very hard. My mentor, Anthony Eclipse, took the rice shot, Peel, Glow, and it's printing 4K days. I mean, yeah, But I have more success changing up the angle. Like, it's. It's very hard to compete when. With the same angle when the person is bidding a lot more than you on Facebook ads, in my opinion. So you kind of. You can definitely, like, change up the angle or become like, make it super specific. Like, super specific. So, like, it just really resonates with one customer. And then your pixel kind of gets built around that and that's kind of what you start printing off of. Don't trade. I can't trade. I gotta trade. I gotta trade there. I'm terrible at chess. Oh, this is not good trade. Do you think if you can already add to that one. Just wondering how many products you test before finding a winner. My, like, first winner ever. That I only made like 3k with it, but that probably took me like 20 or something. I did like 8 or maybe like 15k revenue and 3k profit. It was like a tick tock product or something. That was a. A couple years ago. It's your wop up today. I'll be honest, I definitely slacked on it this last month and did not put a lot of effort into it because I was very busy. But recently we've been dropping bangers in there and we're doing weekly calls again. Max is doing a call every week as well. And then hopefully I can bring some guests in there and some cool people. So I'm gonna be putting a lot more effort into it for sure and making sure that I am providing the best value I can there. Oh, my God, I'm so. Dude. Okay. All right. This is why I don't play on stream, because I'm just terrible. I think it's blue ocean strategy or. What is purple ocean strategy, bro? I don't know what that is. Come on, brother. All right. Playing the carol con. Yes, sir. Trying to learn this. So let's see if I can actually make it work. I'm doing good. 0. Do you read books? Copywriting books? To be. To be honest, I don't really read copywriting books right now. Because with copywriting, like, I don't personally do copywriting. I have AI do it. So you can ask AI to, like, you can find literally, like, the best copywriting book that a lot of people talk about is Breakthrough Advertising by Eugene Schwartz. And you can find like a PDF copy for free online and give it to chat gbt and then it can just use that data for you and build you like scripts based off of that. So that's kind of what I'd be doing, bro, to be honest, brother, I give up. The. That's fine. I think it's fine. What? Let's see, bro. Yeah, Purple ocean strategy is. Yeah, for sure a printer strategy, bro. That's what I did with like the product I'm currently running, like my main store. I'm gonna move this up. Who was your mentor or who did you learn when you started drop shipping? Bro, to be honest, I mean I paid. I did pay for mentorship from a few people, but you don't really need like a mentor. Like I learned pretty much everything from YouTube and just experience and I don't really recommend. Recommend people like pay like crazy, like money like for these high ticket courses or anything like that because you can learn a lot of stuff on by yourself and like there's a lot of lessons that you kind of just have to learn through experience. So that's kind of my take on it. I didn't have like a specific mentor. I did pay for mentorship from Nathan Nguyen, which didn't. Don't recommend that. That guy's kind of not as good as E. Comm as you would think. And my old partner, Connor Kurtz, which the mentorship was okay. But I mean, I don't think it was really worth the money just being completely honest. So. Yeah, Stream's lagging a little. Let me see if I can fix the stream. One second, guys. Oh, whoa. Yeah, that is bad. This MacBook's supposed to be nice, bro. It might just because I'm on a MacBook dog. Not gonna lie. Yeah, I don't know what to do. Maybe I can make it. What's the quality right now? Oh, that's not too bad. Yeah, I don't know exactly what to do here, to be honest. To be honest, stream's kind of correct. Let's see what this guy said. I'll answer the last questions and I'm gonna like mess around with it. Yeah, very laggy. Drop some YouTube videos. You need. Need only your motivation. Yeah, I will be for sure, bro. I'm planning on building a clothing brand. I've started researching but haven't gotten direction. Any advice for me? Yeah, dude, watch, watch Martha Marshall Cruz or something like that. He dropped a video about like Virgil Ablo and basically you don't want to like do something completely new with clothing specifically, you want to, like, take something that people are super familiar with and tweak it a little bit. You want to tweak it a little bit. And that's how, like, that's how like, Off White basically started. Like, you know, like the off white Nike shoes. Like, it's a Nike shoe. It's something that sells super well and, you know, super, super well. Just saw the comment, like, like a Jordan one, like, is like one of the most famous shoes that everyone's super familiar with. And basically what Off White did, they just tweaked a little bit. They added some things here, but it's. It's still super familiar. It's just a little bit of a different design and that's why it went so crazy. So not glad I paid Anthony Clips to be a mentor. Yeah, Anthony Clips, bro. I mean, he is a meme for sure, dude. He DM'd me yesterday on Twitter, actually. He seems like a good guy, but, I mean, I don't know. He. He definitely knows what he's doing. I don't think he's ever, like, created like an actual brand, but he definitely knows how to drop ship. So, I mean, I'll give him that. I'm going to play around the stream a little bit, guys. I'm going to end it real quick, and then if I can get it to work better, then that's great. So I'll let you guys know.
